tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC May 28, 2023 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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>> derrick white, leaving the fans in miami stunned. now the series heads back to boston, game seven with the winner advancing to the finals. if the celtics win, it'll be the first nba team ever to win a playoff series after trailing three games to none. we've got a lot more coming up, folks. you're watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now. welcome, i'm yasmin vossoughian. if you just joining, us welcome. if you're sticking with, us we are thankful for that. the president is back in the white house, scheduled to hold a call right now, actually, with house speaker kevin mccarthy to finalize the details of their agreement on
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the debt ceiling deal. then white house officials will be briefing democratic members of congress, as we continue to await the actual text of the bill. the sales job will be crucial as biden and mccarthy both have to convince their members that each side is not happy about it. >> i do expect the there will be democratic support. once we have the ability to actually be fully briefed by the white house. right now, the democrats are very upset. there is nothing in the bill for them, there is not one thing in the bill for democrats. >> from what i can say, republicans didn't get any of the big things they were asking for. they didn't get massive long term cuts to programs for the poor or middle class. they didn't get the repeal of the presidents signature for renewable energy. they didn't get big, new requirements pushing people out of the medicaid program.
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we will take a look at what's on the table, but it's pretty clear the president bone crypto most reckless thing that the democrats were after. >> i think there will be some that want to support the bill. >> let's begin, though, with the president back in the white house now this afternoon. ready to nail down the deal speaker mccarthy to keep the u.s. from defaulting. what is the latest we are hearing out of the white house? >> the president is stopping for about a minute to speak with reporters upon his return here to the white house. he told us that he is going, as he mentioned, to speak with house speaker kevin mccarthy. noah three p m, that call has already started, as they finalize the contours of this deal. the final details of this deal, which will then allow speaker mccarthy to release publicly the 72-hour review process for lawmakers to read it and
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understand it. he said that he is confident that it will reach his desk for signature. if he asked about any remaining sticking points in this bill, hayes said that there are none. we know, yasmin, that reaching this tentative agreement as it stands now, we have to note the final version of this bill. the fight is just beginning. you played those soundbites members of congress. there is criticism from the far left to certain pieces of this debt ceiling deal. and both science, and the white house and republicans are now working to try and secure enough support for the steal to be able to pass in the house and senate. at this point, there is no time left before that extended june
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5th deadline, set by the secretary. we know that the white house will hold a 5:30 call to brief them on this deal. they will brief democrats or later on this evening. democrats, doing the same thing on their end. and they're talking about an issue like those added work requirements, to some federal relief programs. programs like food assistance that were added, but the white house is maintaining that they are proud of the fact that they were able to protect medicaid. that's something that the president was adamant about, they are also touting the fact that they were able to get a resolution, a compromise on permitting reform, we know that something that both sides wanted for very different reasons. all of that streamlining the permitting process for federal energy projects. we have moderates on both sides of the aisle saying they're happy a deal was reached, especially as we inch closer to this deadline, but of course as we have seen for weeks now, when these lawmakers were hearing about the contours of this deal for the official last
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night. the criticism from both sides of the aisle, it will be interesting to see how that is hammered out as we have seven or eight days before this deadline. >> thank you. so assuming the president and the speaker do in fact hammer out this final agreement, they are going to have to work their cut out for them and try to convince members of their own parties to support it. we want to bring in nbc's -- with more on that. so we've heard some of that, who what the president is going to be touting to his own party. what can you report for us this hour on how members are viewing this deal, as both biden and mccarthy are working it out? >> yasmin, about the deal and the final text of the bill, we still don't have that yet. that is a major component, in terms of these votes. within the past 15 minutes, we just caught gop --
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he told reporters, we don't have text of this bill yet. so it is really coming down to the wire. members will need to be able to review it here pretty soon. and there are -- there will be a fight with the white house, in the house dems, a 6:30 caucus in the white house and senate dems. and those will hopefully allow the biden administration to really sell this bill. now as for republicans, earlier, today's speaker mccarthy said that he has spoken with senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell, and plans to talk to the senate conference at some point today. we don't have details on that quite yet. but their work is really cut out for them and for a little bit of insight into the thinkers from both parties. listen to what they said earlier about all of this process playing out. president biden has delivered a
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result that avoids a catastrophic default, and prevents us from our economy crashing. it stops the migrant publicans from triggering a recession. >> we just want to get back together, now that we finalized all the language. make sure that both sides agree that the language is what we agreed to, as we spoke. i know a lot of members will react to whatever room are you guys are writing about. let's let the members actually read the bill before they make a decision to go forward. >> while speaker mccarthy is downplaying some concerns by his own conference, particularly the house freedom caucus who are basically saying, the republicans are getting enough of this deal. hearns could food and blood suits to the text of the bill, they will come up with more. they cannot afford to lose many votes, and any republican votes in the house with that slim majority.
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we are already hearing from some progressives who said that the biden administration should be worried about getting the support of the progressive democratic caucus over their objections to parts of the bill. for government assistance programs, and so the work is really cut out for leadership, and we will see and these calls lineup late into sunday evening, what progress will be made. but we are weighing the text of the bill now, and hopefully both sides will be able to convince their teams to go along with this deal, looming for the june 5th deadline. yasmin? >> we appreciated. we are back in just 60 seconds, folks, with more reaction to the debt ceiling deal from capitol hill. i'm going to be joined by a representative from new mexico, to talk about what she has been
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good in the deal. joe biden did a big mistake refusing to negotiate for 97 days. i think that put him back on his heels, but of course he is going to be down a few democrat votes in both chambers for this. many far right members are vowing against this deal, and they are not alone, as some progressive lawmakers raise their own concerns about it. a member of the progressive caucus, a democrat from new
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mexico. congresswoman, thanks for joining us on this. i spoke with your colleague in the last hour, and she certainly was angry at the position democrats have found themselves in. being held hostage by the republican party, she felt. and as you are taking a look at humoring what this deal may contain, and that they have in fact reached a deal, is this a deal you can support? >> good afternoon, and thanks so much for having me on. i am filled with a lot of mixed feelings this afternoon. i think i am extraordinarily proud of our president for holding the line on some of these key issues, and making clear that the u.s. government is not going to default on its debt. and we are going to be the runoffs in the room, we are going to make sure that we make good on our responsibilities. we're going to secure the economy, we're going to be fiscally responsible, and we are going to secure the process. it's important for folks to
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understand that this has not been a real negotiation. this has been a hostage situation, this has been, for lack of a better way to call, it extortion. we have had a gun to our heads, and basically the gop has told us that if you do not put into action the extreme cuts for american families, you carry out our political agenda, we are going to tank the american economy and american families along with us. i think it's really important for folks to understand that this is not normal, this has not been a normal negotiation, our president has been backed into a corner and he's been the grown-up in the room. none of us have seen the actual text of the deal, so we have in front of us and agreement, in some general terms. and i will be honest, i'm very concerned about some of the terms that have been agreed to. that includes these increased work requirements for basic programs that support our families. i grew up in a low income family, these are lifesaving
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programs. and the natural resources perpetuated by -- i am concerned about the permitting reform requirements may be included in this deal. i'm also concerned about some of the claw backs that have been talked about, because we know that our communities, our tribal leaders, our mayors, our local leaders across the country are really depending on those funds for the next several years to help put in place infrastructure programs that we need. so i don't know if i'm going to vote for this deal or not, but i'm very angry about the process and i'm very angry that the gop has been playing games with the lives of the american people. >> you mentioned work requirements there. i know work requirements for food assistance was a red line, as you mentioned, for so many members of the progressive arm of the democratic party. you tweeted this out ahead of them memorial day holiday. republicans just got on planes to go home for the weekend, as we approach the fault of the nation's debt. here's my question, if you are so concerned about work
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requirements, how about you show up to do your own job? can you talk about this? >> i think it's hypocritical that the gop for months has been addressing the nation's health, unless we address their own needs to get food on the table and get a roof over their head. we will work on this debt ceiling deal. then they went home to their own families. so my question to the gop all along has been, what is your endgame? if you really care so much about the american economy, you care about the debt and the deficit, and you really care about the families out there that have elected you to represent them, how about you show up to do your own job? how about you show for the american people? how about your show up and do the things that you are elected to do, and not playing games with the american economy.
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>> this deal is being touted as a compromise both from the president and from mccarthy, as well. i want to bring up the debt limit deal framework that we are hearing about. including to your budget deal, your debt limit increase, no changes to medicaid. do you see this as a compromise. >> as i said, this hasn't been a real negotiation from the start. i am proud of the president for getting into the room, making sure that we held the line on the central programs. some of the early demands of these extremists who have been holding our country hostage have been absolutely devastating. they were talking about cutting social security and medicaid, eviscerating basic social programs of millions of americans depend on. so it looks like, based on what we're hearing from the white house, that they were able to hold the line on those essential programs.
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millions of families across the night states that depend on us programs know this. this is not actually what is needed to help advance our families, to advance the economy, and to help support the basic needs of our people. so without seeing the actual text in front of, us it's hard to know whether or not these are deal killers. but we are going to be evaluating it in the democratic caucus or the next 24 hours, we're going to be having a lot of very difficult conversations. and we will be briefed in just a few short hours by the white house about what they've agreed to. so we'll have to see what's actually in the deal. >> how do you make sure this doesn't happen again? >> that's the real question. and that's something i get asked every single day by constituents and americans all over. how do we make sure that we can never be held hostage again by
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extremists like this? and part of how we do that is we changed this arcane death limit authorization that we have to pass every year. this is nothing that is required, it's something that has been a routine three republican presidents. it's something that we can change, there is a bill that's already out there that the vast majority of democrats support. this does not need to happen ever again, and i am in full support of getting rid of these debt limit negotiations, and making sure our people cannot be held hostage by extremists. >> representative melanie stanford, thank you so much. i appreciate it. still ahead, everybody, a look at what we know about what is in the debt ceiling deal. including what democrats were and were not able to get. and how texas progressives are responding to attorney general ken paxton's impeachment.
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inflation is not seem to be stopping travelers this holiday weekend, agreeing aaa. despite increased airfare prices, international air travel alone is up 250% since last year. joining me now is nbc's melissa carl with more on this. marissa, take us there. the reporting that you've been hearing, how are travelers faring so far? >> yeah. across the board, whether it's planes, trains, automobiles, travel is of. take a look at the numbers, see for yourself. take a look at the difference between last year and this year. regardless of the formal travel, the difference is in the millions. and then look at the difference between 2019 and this weekend. the air travel, the only one expected to be higher than before the pandemic in 2019.
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we spoke to a aaa spokesperson about this, and they said the best they can describe this is a feeling from families who put off travel during covid, all of these restrictions being lifted around the world, this is the only time families have been saving and they feel like this is the time to go and finally see the rest of the world. >> even with higher prices, especially when it comes to all areas of travel, people are still going to be heading out there in big numbers and using all different modes of transportation. automobiles, planes, trains, buses, and cruises. and so it's an exciting time for people, because for a lot of folks, it's going to be their first time to head out for that family vacation since the pandemic began. >> we know, regardless of the holiday, memorial day is no exception, traveling by the road is the most popular form of travel. take a look at those gas prices, you can see that they are cheaper than last year which is good. you remember last summer, they got up to over $5.50.
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actually, they got over that. so obviously, lower prices now. but airline prices are up. despite, that despite the inflation, despite the higher cost, that is not stopping them from selling tickets. in fact, we are live outside of los angeles airport, l.a.x., one of the busiest airports. they broke a single day record in this post covid pandemic era. they had 224,000 passengers on thursday, traveling through here. they look at what they're expecting for the summer, this is an indication that if you have plans to go on vacation somewhere, you're probably not the only one. so as i say, it's a cliché for a reason. it is busy out there. we're going to have a much more of the debt ceiling ahead. the devil is in the details. and we are learning more of
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raise the debt ceiling drawing a wide range of reactions on capitol hill, although the details of the deal are still not widely known. we have a pretty clear picture of what spending cuts have been made, and what the white house was able to protect in negotiations. let's take a listen to some reactions from the lawmakers who will have to vote on this bill. >> there is so much in this as positive, and measure to all the other debt ceilings. republicans had the presidency, the senate, and the house. did they ever cut spending? no, they increased it. we were able to do this with the president saying he wasn't going to talk to us. this is a step in the right direction. >> this was reach in president by president biden. there are several important. things in addition to avoiding a devastating default that would hurt every day americans, it protects social security. it protects medicare and medicaid. >> my staff has been informing me this morning that on both
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sides of the aisle -- >> i'm not excited about it. i'm going to be honest, it will be interesting to see how the progressives overall respond. >> joe biden made a mistake to negotiate for 97 days. i think that put him back on his heels. of course, he is going to be over us a few democratic votes on both chambers for this. >> from what i can see, republicans didn't get any of the big things they were asking for. they didn't get a massive long term cuts to programs for the poorer, or middle class. they didn't get the repeal of the presidents signature. >> i'm going to look at that bill. and i'm not going to make a promise to anybody that i'm going to vote for, it or anybody else until we see the text. >> i want to continue this conversation with emma, who covers the federal budget and spending. thank you for joining us now. caitlin, good to talk. you thank you for joining us on this. you write this about the bill.
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quote, undoubtedly the most uncompromising -- the two parties have struck in more than eight decades. why do you see it this way? >> i think there have been a lot of parallels drawn to the 2011 debt limit standoff. because the dynamics in congress were somewhat similar this time around. so back in 2011, we saw republicans extract ten years of strict funding caps from the obama white house. that agreement, congress didn't ultimately adhere to that for the entire ten years. but in terms of striking a bipartisan agreement, this is somewhat similar. certainly, this is not a decades worth of spending caps. that's what republicans wanted again this time. now they're looking at a two-year budget deal with four more years of after that. but the parallels between what we saw in 2011 and what we're
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seeing today are fairly similar, in terms of the dynamics of the folks who negotiated this deal. >> i want to get into the nuts and bolts of this whole thing. you kind of lay out the six pillars of what was decided on. work requirements for food assistance, aid cutbacks as well. irs cut, spending caps, student loans. if you would, expand on all of these for me, and want benefits there are to the democratic party versus the republican party. >> right. what we're seeing right now, as we're all waiting on legislative text to drop any minute is that both sides have worked really hard to spin this in their favor. you have difficult enhanced work requirements, programs like, snap formerly known as food stamps. temporary assistance for needy
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families, those new tightened work requirements are not going to be popular. they are going to have a hard time voting for that, and accepting that. veterans and homeless people are -- so you are seeing a lot of back and forth today. democrats are coming for the fiscal year. it is essentially going to be flat for domestic programs, well the military is going to be funded at the level that president joe biden requested in the 24 budget. that is a win for the administration, and not even kind of close to the 130 billion dollars in cuts that republicans were seeking out of this deal. but you have republicans on the other hand, saying well, if you take out veterans funding from
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that non discretionary spending total for non defensive programs, then you have the level of non-defense funding that we are hoping for, close to fiscal 2022 levels. so both sides have a lot to look at in this deal, and to make work for themselves. but ultimately, the legislative text will be coming out in the next few minutes for the next few hours, and i think folks will be hardening their positions a little more in terms of where they stand and how they're going to vote. >> what are we specifically learning about student loans? >> this agreement would not touch president joe biden's plan to cancel up to $20,000 in his debt relief for student loan borrowers. this was a priority for republicans, there are provisions that would codify the restarting of student on interest payments which is something that the biden administration is already looking to do. so essentially, republicans
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really wanted to hit the student loan front. they were not really successful doing that here. >> and how is isn't going to go down next couple of, days if they're able to secure bipartisan votes that they need? >> right. well, this is going to be a massive effort for both parties. my colleague, sarah faris has the story up now that looks at the early horror and what we can expect to see so far. to the folks on the margins of either party saying that they are having issues with it. so certainly, no surprise that members of the house freedom caucus are not pleased with what they are saying. this is a bipartisan compromise, it's going to require a lot of democrats to get across the finish line. right now, it seems to be on track to do that. the house is likely going to vote on wednesday, senate majority leader chuck schumer warned senators today that they should be prepared to meet her
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on friday, or over the weekend. so certainly, we are going to see a lot of grumbling in the margins. that is par for the course in the senate, anyone senator can hold up the climate agreement get speedy passage of this thing done. but right, now it looks like we are on track to pass this before the june 5th deadline. >> caitlin there for us, we thank you. turkish president erdogan, telling voters a short time ago the country has completed the runoff election, and that voters have given him a new presidential mandate. it's coming as turkish state media has declared erdogan the winner, saying they now have 99% of ballots counted. we should know the official numbers have been slower than media counts, and erdogan has not officially been announced the winner of the election. nbc's net bradley is on car, a turkey, with more. as we mentioned, these are unofficial results. when are we going to get official results here? >> we don't know exactly.
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we could probably get them in the next hour, probably in the next day. but yasmin, these are really as close as we can get two official results. barring any major, massive change, this is probably going to stand. and erdogan is probably going to be serving another five years in the presidency. this is going to be something that is going to be very disappointing to the opposition, but they can be cheered by the fact that their man, the leader of the opposition, he actually posted what was the most formidable challenge against the president for the past 20 years that he's been running this country. but for those who are fans of the president, you can hear them behind. me they're trying to get around the city, the capital, and cara. they're honking their horns, we're hearing fireworks going off behind me. this is a day to celebrate, even though this was a humbling moment for the president who has never had to face a runoff election. this is the first runoff election. this election is going to be watched globally, because erdogan, while he's also a
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member of nato, he has really bumped a lot of the trends that nato is trying to use to enforce amongst each other. he has really cozied up to president vladimir putin of russia. we just saw president vladimir putin was one of the first global leaders to congratulate erdogan and he offered his fulsome support to the turkish president. in a note that just came out, just in the past hour. now, for a lot of people, this is -- there are a lot of really big issues here a, lot of different policy issues, ideological issues. but for most voters, this is a question of dollars and cents. that's why, when i spoke to young people here in a car yesterday, they told me that for them, there's only one issue on the ballot. that's the economy. specifically, inflation. we have seen here, as much as 50 to 80% inflation rates. economists warn that those numbers aren't high enough. those are just the official numbers. it could be as high as 100 percent. so i spoke with one young man who is voting for the opposition, who expressed his
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frustration with erdogan's -- and another man, who was a supporter of erdogan. here's what they told me. >> both have good ideas. but the next generation, the young generation is after work. and i vote for them. >> can you tell me, you don't have to answer. what can you tell me who you voted for? >> for erdogan. personally. >> why? >> i think he is the only hope for our country. so we know he's already there over 20 years. he is a proven candidate. but on the other side, there is -- he was a weak candidate. so he promised to many things. >> so as you can see, yasmin, for many voters, this is a question of trying to get rid
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of erdogan to free up the next generation, for those young people who they told me, a lot of them have said that they would be leaving the country. because they can't face more economic troubles imposed on this country by erdogan's very unorthodox monetary policies. which they blame for sending inflation sky-high. but for others, for the second gentleman you heard from, he said that erdogan is a tried and tested, proven candidate. and he's the only one who can solve some of the problems that a lot of the opposition figures say were caused by erdogan himself. yasmin? >> matt bradley forest, thank you. up next, everybody, texas republicans seem to be dead set on combining church and state when it comes to schools. but the effort is falling flat. >> the lord jehovah has given until you these 15 -- these ten commandments for all to obey. >> from the ten commandments to
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tenure has been all but defined by controversy, was impeached saturday following a lengthy investigation into his behavior. it's a stunning and rare instance of republican lawmakers voting to oust a member of your own party. it was overwhelming one 21 to 23 against paxton. we want to bring in carissa lopez from texas freedom network to talk more about this. i'm sure the attorney general, carissa -- welcome to you, by the way. i'm sure he has been on your radar for quite some time. what did you make, initially, your reaction to this investigation and subsequent impeachment. i know there's a lot ahead for him, as well. it's about to go to trial in the senate. what was your initial reaction to it all? >> yeah. thank you for having me. i would say it was a shock, but it's about time that ken paxton has faced consequences for his corrupt actions. and i'm glad to see the texas house putting politics aside,
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and holding him accountable. like you said, an overwhelming majority voting to impeach. >> so this impeachment didn't necessarily include felony security charges or his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. was this more about the public, or accountability? >> i think it was clearly about accountability. the 20 articles of impeachment that were brought against him included multiple counts of bribery, abuse of office, obstruction of justice, just to name a few. and this was triggered by ken paxton's acts towards the legislator to pay out a 3.3 million dollar whistleblower lawsuit settlement. right? and so i think that they did the right thing, and now we will see what happens in the senate. >> i want to pivot here. i want to talk about another
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thing that happened in your state. this allows for unlicensed religious chaplains to work in texas public schools. so essentially, to serve as untrained counselors. and as robert down and writes in the texas tribune, apparently it is their strategy to quote unquote prevent school shootings, drug use, suicide, and other societal ills by returning god to classrooms. what do you make of this? >> i find it extremely concerning. if they really cared about solving some of these problems, they would put their money where their mouth is. just yesterday, a bill died that would have given teachers pay raises. we are about to end this legislative session without raising teacher pay. and we know we have a shortage of mental health counselors, of
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teachers, we have a gun violence crisis. and if they wanted to solve those problems, they could. and we also see bills like this one, as the republican party continues to erode the separation of church and state. and i think it's no coincidence that they are doing this under this new more conservative supreme court. these are the latest attempts for traction in this legislative session. >> i want to play for you some sound we have a texas state representative -- confronting the author of this bill, cole haffner. and then i want you to react to the other side. >> so to me is glucose or texas, you have to have a masters degree. does your bill require chaplain staff masters degrees? >> no. >> to be a school counselor in texas, we have to teach in a classroom for two years.
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does your bill require a chaplain to teach in a classroom for two years? >> no sir. >> does your bill specify any qualifications for chaplains serving in our schools? >> i don't think there's any specific qualifications. >> carissa, weigh in on this. >> yeah. i think representative talarico has done a great job of bringing forth all the concerns we have on this bill, right? and i find it really rich and hypocritical that in a session where the republican party has been advocating for parental rights, this bill refused to include a provision that would require parental permission before a child is able to go to a chaplain in public schools to seek counseling. and so i think this is a dangerous bill, it opens up opportunities for discrimination. and i hope that school
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we honor those who died in service to our country. for families of thousands of missing service members, and there is little closure. harry smith reports on an effort to change that. >> just days ago, lieutenant carl has been was laid to rest. >> we honor the sacrifice that he made. >> he was a bomber pilot in world war ii, whose plane was shot down in germany.
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i listed as missing in action, then presumed deceased. leaving his parents bereft, his father desperate for answers. >> he wrote several letters to the department of defense. find my boy, find my boy. and they never could. >> let us pray. >> reverend greg sigman's lieutenants nephew. once back, he was surprised by a call. >> i was very suspicious, because i couldn't believe that anyone's interest for my uncle i'm sorry five years after he died. where the family. warmer it gave them hope. his niece, barbara -- >> we know there is a possibility. it was kind of vague, we really thought it was just a shot in the dark. not a shot in the dark. as a determined effort by a group called history fund and both europe in the pacific, they perform archaeological digs.
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serving two acres of earth, in places they believe evidence of missing veterans can be found. >> no one left behind these -- we will do have to do to come back. >> we come back on the side and you find something that might be helpful. what is that like? >> it's like the heavens open up. >> this marine veteran, history flight ceo. >> there are so many families that are out there, that have this whole, they're missing something they sent a live one out the door there that didn't see them again, and he didn't come back. not only did they not come back. they don't have answers. >> what history found, in germany, was sent to the defense p.o.w. m.i.a. agency. where it was painstakingly examined. more than 9000 pieces in the ground, including dog tags, even photographs. >> pieces of peoples lives. >> then, with the technology,
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the csi like lab, they look for dna match. when they make that match, they inform the family. >> since they never recovered a, body there was never any closure, -- >> carl nesbit's lieutenants namesake. >> my uncles a hero, he still is. >> there was always a mystery, until recently. i'm so happy. >> with the thanks of and grateful nation, harris, mitt carlisle, pennsylvania. >> our thanks to harry smith for that report. that wraps up for this hour, i'm yasmin vossoughian, you can catch me tomorrow on msnbc from -- i'll be back in the share next saturday and sunday as well. at two p.m. eastern. symone starts right now. mone starts right now. greetings, everyone. you're watching simone, the
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