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>> hello everyone, i am alicia menendez as we begin a new hour on a very busy sunday night of breaking news, they have a deal, in principle, now they have to get it through congress. president biden addressing the nation just moments ago, defending his decision to negotiate an agreement with kevin mccarthy and house republicans to raise the debt ceiling. in just a moment, i'm going to talk to a member of the house progressive caucus, congressman jasmine crockett, where she stands on the deal, and some of her colleagues voice their concerns. plus, we go to texas where republicans impeach one of their own. we talk to a lawmaker in the state about attorney general ken paxton what comes next. this is american voices.
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we begin this hour in washington where president biden and speaker mccarthy are rallying support for their tentative deal to extend the nation's debt. the agreement will likely need votes from both republicans and democrats to pass the house. mccarthy says the vote could come as soon as this wednesday before it heads to the senate. just moments ago, president biden said he is confident this will pass both chambers of congress. >> the speaker and i made it clear from the start that the only way forward was a bipartisan agreement. that agreement now goes to the united states house, and to the senate. i strongly urge both chambers to pass that agreement. let's keep moving forward on meeting our obligations and building the strongest economy in the history of the world. >> in the meantime, majority leader chuck schumer is alerting his conference they should be prepared for a final vote in the senate as soon as friday. mccarthy also talked with senate republicans this
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afternoon, telling them the final bill will be about 150 pages, including 15 pages of spending cuts. nbc news has also learned part of the deal includes raising the debt limit for two years, this move will avoid another debt fight before the 2024 election. the bill also clause back some unspent pandemic funding, and cut some irs funding. it also expands work requirements for many adults curly on food stamps. house speaker mccarthy, and even the white house are framing this deal as a compromise. you've got to remember how we got here. it was unfolding is much more complicated. republicans managed to weaponize his process in exchange for their legislative priorities. new piece from new york magazine reads quote, the fact that this deal falls well short of republicans audacious initial demands should not obscure this report. the gop's pick execute a lopsided spending agreement, and exportation paid off. joining me now, nbc news correspondent julia jester. julia, president biden's that
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he is confident the bills going to reach his desk. how is the white house framing this deal, specifically for democrats in congress? >> well alicia, we heard a bit about that in president biden's own words earlier this evening when he touted that this bill will quote, take the threat of catastrophic default off the table and protect our hard-earned and historic economic recovery. and i heard from a member this evening who was on tonight's call between the white house and house democrats that the biden administration really leaned into not only what was in the bill, but what wasn't. they really touted how much they had saved from being included in this bill, what they have protected. for example, not having any changes to medicaid requirements, that was really requirement to the biden administration and a lot of democrats. so expect to see them really saying hey, compromises necessary in order to govern, but we could've had a lot more
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in the bill. and so, these house democrats, will be really looking to the biden ministration for their support, especially the progressive caucus with one member, representative jayapal saying saying earlier they should be worried about the white house's support and not take it for granted. >> it was interesting tonight that you picked up on that point about medicaid, because one of the arguments the white house had been making is that if you tied work requirements with peoples eligibility to medicaid, you are not only messing with their access to services, you are messing with their health care outcomes. julia, what reactions are you hearing from house members more broadly? you can tell it is very busy where you are, it is always hard to tell which extend if that's two or so the u.s. capital, and which is people hard at work. the path forward to get this bill across the finish line, julia? >> yes. as you can tell from the crowd behind me, it is memorial day weekend. there was an event here at the capital, but it is not a holiday weekend for leadership.
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they are really trying to whip their members to get support for this bill, both democrats and republicans, because with speaker mccarthy's slim majority he cannot afford to lose many members of his caucus, which means this bill will need democratic support. and you see both mccarthy and biden pushing for both sides of the aisle to support this bill. now asked for the members themselves, many have said, yes an agreement in principle, seeing these top lines as great. but they are waiting for the text of this bill. and tonight we are learning from speaker mccarthy's call with senate republicans that the bill, according to sources, will be 150 pages long and include 15 pages of spending cuts. and we are expecting the house to vote on this bill after the markets closed on wednesday, and that is important because that gives us a sign as to when we might see this text -- that speaker mccarthy made during a speaker battle fight.
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the bill must be in the hands of members for 72 hours before it goes to the floor so that they have time to properly review it. and so you will see the white house trying to ease concerns from progressives, about changes to snap and tampa, government benefits. and you will see mccarthy trying to ease concerns from the house freedom caucus and some of those more conservative members saying that it does not cut spending nearly enough. and you will see both sides, as i mentioned earlier, really saying hey, this is what we got for our team but at the end of the day is a piece of compromise legislation. alicia? >> it strikes me that these members of congress understandably won the legislation in their hands, they want to be able to read through it. we want it in their hand so that we can start act asking more substantive questions about the responsive to it. nbc news correspondent julia jester, as always thank you. let's bring texas congressman jasmine crockett, a member of the progressive caucus. congressman, your thoughts on
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this deal? >> yes, i'm really concerned alicia. my district, 20% live at or below poverty. suddenly the playbook for the republican party is to attempt to balance the budget on the backs of the most vulnerable in this country. the one thing that mccarthy made clear when he announced that there was a deal was that there would be no new taxes. meaning that has big funders don't have to worry about money coming out of their pockets at a time in which we are still trying to recover from covid 19, as well as just deal with this record inflation that we have been enduring. and so the majority of the conversations i have had in my office with -- is can we get more money? whether it's from doctors you are looking for more money in medicaid and medicare, to make sure that we can keep doctors providing to those folks. or even when we talk about snack benefits, that's been on the act committee. they have failed to have one hearing on nutrition, and
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nutrition is the vast majority of the farm bill. i believe it is simply because they wanted to do as much killing of s.n.a.p. benefits as they could, and it's really a shame that people that were elected to look up for the majority of americans refused to do their jobs. and honestly, when we look at the numbers, snap benefits is going to affect those in rural america even more than those in my district. that's what the numbers show, and the vast majority of rural americans continues to vote for people that are consistently putting them on the backburner. >> so congressman let me ask, there's the deal itself and we know that you are waiting to see the actual text of the legislation. there is also the process by which this happens. the washington post editorial board writes quote, what should not happen now is for americans to breathe a sigh of relief and move on. yes, a last-minute compromise okrent, but a dangerous precedent has been set. house republicans have now use the limit twice to make a
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hostage-like situation that brings the nation close to an unthinkable default. expect that a future republican congress would be willing to go over the cliff to extract more. what do you make of how house republicans, how they weaponize this process, not once but twice. knowing that those same republicans voted to raise the debt three times under the trump administration. >> listen, alicia, you and i both know this is the party of hypocrisy. i mean, even when we think about how much they say they love law and order, we know that the people that are consistently under indictment tend to be the republicans right now, right? so, it's a continual house of hypocrisy and it's really unfortunate, because yeah, we are at the brink. the average american does not understand, they say, what's the bettable balancing the budget? the reality is that we are at the budget process. the reality is that they have not laid out a budget. the reality is that we are
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trying to pay a credit card bill of four which 25% of the state was accrued under trump. the reality is that they are trying to undo legislation that was duly passed in a democratic majority where they are saying you know what? all that money that was set aside so that the irs can go after the big tax cheats, the ones that are most likely funding the republican campaigns. we don't want them to be able to do that enforcement. we don't want them to be able to go after those monies. so instead of just raising the debt limit, the debt ceiling, they decided this is our opportunity to really deal with the budget even though we're not putting forward a budget. and if you're going to say that hey, this is about being fiscally responsible. tell me how much money we are going to save? tell me that? i can tell you that the president's budget was going to say three trillion dollars. i can tell you that in the first two years of this presidency the president has saved almost two trillion dollars, and he did it without harming those that need the government the most. >> yes, i mean, i see it as two
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prongs here, congressman. which is what you have what we are talking about now, it is very likely you can voting as soon as wednesday if it goes through. senate could be voting as soon as friday. but there is what you are saying, which is how we have arrived at this moment, and how we continually arrive at this moment. president biden, in the last hour, from the roosevelt room talking to the american people. he had this to say about reforming the process. take a listen. >> i think it cause more controversy getting rid of the debt limit, although i am exploring the idea that we would, at a later day, a year or two from now decide whether or not the 14 amendment how that actually would impact on whether or not you need to do the debt limit every year. but that is another day. >> all right so, not talking about 14th amendment for the purposes of this specific negotiation, but talking about
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taking the next year to consider what a workaround might look like. how does that change the work that you do, and what it is that congress is able to deliver for their constituents? >> yeah, you know alicia, what most people don't understand is this really should not be a debate. the republicans say, all the democrats did it as well. to be clear, the democrats just wanted to push through legislation that actually was going to help republican constituents. they basically decided hey, this is an opportunity to get funding to say, for some flooding that happened in the state of texas, which is republican controlled. they did it for the purpose of good. historically what we consistently see is that democrats are pushing forward for the good of this country, but unfortunately, the republicans saw this as an opportunity for them to do something that they most likely would not be able to do. at the end of the day, they absolutely have control of the
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house. and so once we got to the budget, then we could have had the proper fight. but they knew that half of this stuff would not even make it through their own caucus, like they wouldn't be able to do it. because then it's out front. it's out front that we have decided that the only increase in the budget is going to be for defense, and at the end of the day, a budget is a moral contract. it tells you where one's priorities lie. and so with it happening in this process it is very convoluted, and they sell it in a different way. instead of just being honest, and that's one of the things we just can't get out of the republican party. now they're going to be those and say hey, the 14th amendment should have been used because you know what? this legislation has already been passed, it is already been authorized by congress, this is just a matter of paying these bills. that is all it is. and so while we are debating this is really one of those head-scratching moments for us. >> i have less than a minute left, but i gotta ask you congresswoman as you look over to the other side of the aisle
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do you think that kevin mccarthy is going to be able to deliver the votes from his pocket for this? >> no, he's going to need democrats. we've already heard for the likes of matt gaetz, that basically it almost did not seem like it mattered what type of deal was struck, he was not going to vote for it. i think the difference is, he may not vote for it but he also would not necessarily do a motion to vacate the chair. and seemingly that's all mccarthy was trying to avoid, is a motion to vacate the chair. but he is not going to be able to pull his entire caucus into vote for this. he's going to need democrats. so it will be interesting to see who all decides to vote for this, because i am waiting on a text to make a determination as to whether or not this will do more good or bad for my district. >> texas representative jasmine crockett, as always, congressman thank you so much for your time. next, a tentative deal. just the first step, can speaker mccarthy keep his caucus together? why that is no small task. plus, election denying texas a.g. can paxson hit with a
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20,000 impeachment charge from his own party. why the effects will reverberate far beyond austin. but first richard louis standing by with a look at the other big stories, or watching us at msnbc. >> update now, turkey's president erdogan winning reelection for the third term in. in a victory speech everyone said the people of turkey have given a new mandate that will extend its history making 21 year stint as a country's president. we have an update from and car a little later in the hour. russian airstrikes battered kyiv for more than five hours overnight, a city's mayor says at least one person was killed. ukraine's military says air defenses shot down at least 40 of those russian drones. and a salute this memorial day weekend on the national mall. the poppy wall of honor is filled with nearly 650,000 flowers. symbols of remembrance. one for each of the men and women who gave their lives serving in the u.s. military since world war i. more american voices, right
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swath of the republican party that actually wants us to default. we're starting to see the freedom caucus already rallying the troops against this deal. my worry is that there may still not be enough republicans in the house to get this deal done. >> so, there's a deal. in principle at least. right now they're working on the wording of the bill to raise the debt ceiling. nbc news reporting republican aides are writing it, the white house will then review it. speaker mccarthy claimed 95% of his party is thrilled with the compromise, but his far-right critics are already refusing to fall in line. texas republican chip roy, for example, calling the deal a quote, get ready for this, toured sandwich. joining me now msnbc can political contributor eugene daniels, white house contributor and coauthor of the playbook letter from political. and daniel strauss, senior political correspondent for new york public. guys, i do not to see your
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faces when i read tired sandwich, which is so evocative. eugene, your colleague at politico writes quote, conservatives likely can't kill the agreement on their own, they can make mccarthy's life miserable depending on how far they take their displeasure. talk me through what this could look like? >> at this point, you have republicans all over the place, all over the map. and on the political spectrum, too. you have jim jordan, one of the most far-right folks in the republican party being all on board, then you have chip roy calling it a turd sandwich, i did make a weird face when you said. because it is a strange term. but i think that the way kevin mccarthy has to always be aware of, what he is always paid attention to is that one person it takes to vacate the seat, right? that's something he's always thinking about and talking about -- >> i don't to gloss over this, because i think that not everyone knows what that means. i mean, we are talking about his losing his speakership at
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the behest of a single member of congress. >> exactly. that was part of the agreement when it took him 15 votes to become speaker, right? that is a lot of power to give to the most extreme version, the most extreme folks in your party. i will say, even last week we were talking to white house aides. they say the democrats were preparing to give up, possibly, 100 votes for the house democrats to get on board with this. they're already prepared to give a lot of support. the congressman was just talking about that exact same thing. she knew that kevin mccarthy's not been able to get across a finish line with just republicans. everyone is aware of that. how far they willing to take it to be pains in his butt? that is what we will see over the next few days it's alex going to be around thursday. >> republicans calling this a win for smaller government. here's how the chair of the progressive caucus respond. take a listen. >> it is all because
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republicans said that they wanted to cut the deficit. and let's be clear, that what they got from this was not that. they may have gotten on other things, i am not happy with some of the things i am hearing about. but they are not cutting the deficit, and they are not cutting spending. >> so daniel, understanding that we do not have the text of this legislation, that we three nerds as soon as we have it will read the entire thing. but given the broad contours of what we know, what is the gop really getting out of this deal? >> i mean, they are getting -- besides the fact that the country won't default, some reductions in the dreaded funding increase of about $80 million to the irs, which has been a big objection among rank and file republicans, and house republican leadership for a while now. they have also gotten some what minor cuts to government
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spending that they have been pushing for a while. but overall, this is something that i am hearing from both conservative republicans and liberal democrats, is not satisfying. the general sense i have gotten across the political spectrum though, is that there probably won't be enough support to do something really big to change this deal in the coming days. there is not really a strong sense of optimism among the more rancorous sides of either the democratic party, or the republican party that any sort of win like the house freedom caucus, or any big block of progressives could make a big dent and change this view at this point. frankly, that's what the president and speaker mccarthy, although he's probably won't admit it, want to see in the next few days. they don't want to see any kind a big change. >> and eugene, part of the reason that is the dynamic as because of the timeline that everyone is operating on. you know, it strikes me
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president biden has a key role in this negotiation, his name on the deal, it's him on the podium at the roosevelt room telling the american people how this is going to proceed. one of the dynamics at play now for this white house? we know what they have needed to do to get it to this point, what do they feel they need to do in order to get it over the finish line? what do they feel is at stake for them politically? >> yeah i think they have to do a better job at selling this new house democrats, right? what you saw immediately last night, when we heard that there was a deal. kevin mccarthy -- they had this big conference call with house republicans, he's talking to them about this, walking them through it. the white house did something similar, they sent out some larger points to all of the house democrats, they sent a larger points to the chief of staff, and they did someone and one calls. what they wanted, what democrats have been wanting, as a phone call so they can all get on the same page. and more importantly, hear from the president and his team what
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exactly they are supposed to -- how they're supposed to take this. because again, we have not seen the bill texan either have the, neither party has seen this. and so they'll read unseal they feel about it, but at the end of the day this white house feels confident like daniel was saying that they are going to get this passed. because june 1st was the scary day, we moved to june 5th but that still does not give folks a lot of time to get this to change this in a large way, or really make any changes at all. so that is what this white house is hoping. that everyone will kind of calm down, and simmer down and be heard. and there's enough folks on the far right of the house to mess this up, but in the middle we will have enough people to get this moving. it seems like what kevin mccarthy the is making on. about >> the compromise raises the debt limit until 2025. earlier had congressman garcia on, it seem like there is a lot of things he did not love about this deal but that was
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something that of course for democrats stands out as an obvious when. how important is this politically for democrats? specifically for joe biden? because most of all is important to all of us, right? the fact that we are not going to have republicans hold the economy hostage over our budgetary deals that could be done at a different time. >> yeah no, it is a huge victory in that sense for the biden white house. this is the president going into season who does not want to have to be preoccupied with regularly hostage negotiations, and he has become used to over the past few years, really decades. that point should not be lost or ignored here, it's also something that if you are a republican in congress looking to run for president and probably aren't as well known as say, a former president of the united states or a certain
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governor from florida. making some sort of big fight over the debt ceiling can really distinguish you and what looks to be a crowded republican primary field. the fact that there won't be any sort of debt ceiling fight during most of, or really, all of the 2024 campaign season takes that off the table. and that's, i mean, for democrats that's a big deal. the current president then vice president during the obama administration would describe it certainly differently, but it's really a big step. >> i was looking in the presidents remarks when he came out, it was sort of -- he went broad any kept it really short, right? this is good news, here is where things go from here, this is our responsibility, goodnight and good luck. then he takes questions, and questions, actually, or we heard the news. i thought specifically around this question of the 14th amendment. not specifically related to
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this debt deal, but the idea that his administration is going to take the next year or so to look at ways in which the 14th amendment could be deployed. does that comport with what you have urine from the white house? >> the president, when he talked about this originally about the 14th amendment. what he said was that basically they did not have enough time to fight it out in courts, because they're anticipating if they do use the 14th amendment to basically ignore congress, ignore the debt limit and say we have to pay our bills let's and it's in the constitution. then it's going to be a lot of legal fights. and so when i talk to folks of the white house, that's what they say. the administration, and folks in the treasury department, they are looking at how would this work? what are the holes that can be poked into it by republicans and folks around the country who are obviously going to sue over this? but, everyone kind of agrees -- most people agree, that this isn't something that we should
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be doing, that the debt limit is kind of a silly exercise. however, republicans have use over, and over, and over again to kind of take the hostage and make these threats and get deals like this with a few really good about it. but i will say, for house democrats and for the white house and the folks we're gonna be hearing, other than the 14th amendment, as they sell those packages that they were able to take a lot of things off the table. they may not have been able to put a lot of things in the bill, but they were able to take a lot of things off of it, and that's something democrats should be excited about. >> eugene daniels, daniel strauss thank you so much for talking us all through this. next, follow-up from republicans temporarily removing one of their own from office. texas attorney general ken paxton heads to trial in state senate when talks to texas state rep -- about what went on in saturday night. turkey's president declared victory in a runoff election, an update on that developing story, next. story, next. ed.
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capitol hill, the text of the bill to raise the debt ceiling has been released. it is 99 pages. our producers and our reporters are combing through it right now. we will get details to you as seen as we have them. now to texas, and a historic decision of a republican-led house impeaching republican attorney general ken paxton. the state to hold a trial and decide whether paxson shall be reverently before. office reminder, paxton -- try to overturn the 2020 election. a lot of those over the supreme court. on january six 2021. the 20 articles of impeachment against the a.g. did not have to do with denying joe biden's victory. instead, they included abuse of the public trust, being unfit for office, dereliction of duty, and constitutional bribery. paxson called the impeachment vote, illegal, unethical, and profoundly unjust. my next guest, state representative james valrico called that vote the most
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consequential one he will cast as a member of the texas legislature. he is a democrat who represents parts of austin, and he joins me now. representative, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us. the most consequential vote you will cast. tell me why? >> you know, removing a statewide elected official is no small matter, and i think it's something that i and the rest of my colleagues gave a lot of thought to. and ken paxton has proven time and time again that he isn't worthy of the office that he holds. in 2015 he was indicted on three felony charges, in 2020 his top lieutenants accused him of bribery, and it is well-documented that he has used his office to enrich his campaign donors. and corrupt politicians like ken paxton are the right at the core of a broken political system. i am so proud that my colleagues came together on a bipartisan basis to remove him from office. >> let's talk about that bipartisan basis.
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you had a majority of republicans who came out in support here. i want you to take a listen to what republican state representative david spiller had to say. >> members, it brings me no pleasure to be standing here today in front of you dealing with this matter. i know that it's not pleasant for you either. but we have a duty, and an obligation to protect the citizens of texas from elected officials that abuse their office and their power for personal gain. as a body, we should not be complicit in allowing that behavior. >> all of these accusations are not new, representative. and so i think for those of us who are not in texas, a big part of the question is why now? why republicans specifically coming forward now and saying enough is enough? >> well you know, i mentioned those top lieutenants who accuse the attorney general of bribery, they settled with the
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attorney general for three point $3 million. and because ken paxton was accused of misusing his public office, that felt the tax payers in texas to pay that settlement, and that is what led to this investigation in the texas house. so that is why now. but i just want to pause and recognize that in this age of extreme partisanship, extreme polarization you have republicans who are holding a fellow republican accountable for the misuse of his office. that is an extraordinary thing, and it's something that should be recognized and mimicked by republicans across the country. >> recognized, mimics, and i think part of what you are getting at is that it should not be that unusual, right? the idea of members of one's party holding it accountable. paxton led -- a campaign to over the 2020 election, he spoke at the stop the steal rally on january 6th. i wonder -- there is a turning point for
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texas here. i want you to talk about that, but i also want you to zoom out and talk to us nationally about the implications of what we are watching go down in your home state. >> someone asked me right after the vote how i felt, and i said hopeful, which is kind of a strange way to feel after an impeachment vote. but the idea that we can still come together as democrats and republicans and hold a corrupt public officials accountable should give us all hope for the future, and for the stability of our democracy that we share. you know, an official who abuses their power, who betrays the public trust must face consequences. and too often in our politics, from donald trump all the way down, officials do not face any consequences. and so i am so thankful that my colleagues in the texas house, republicans and democrats, did the right thing and helps preserve and protect this democracy of ours.
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>> texas state representative james talarico, as always thank you so much for taking the time to be with. this next, we'll have the latest from capitol hill moments after house speaker mccarthy released a 99-page deal with the white house. stay with us. you going to do with it? i could use a new sign. woooo! alright... ♪ soundproof windows. a new chair. save more than $1000 bucks versus verizon. and now, get the new samsung galaxy s23 plus free with no trade-in required.
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julia, i know you speed read or, you have read on a nine 99 pages of this bill. tell us, tell us what you can about what you have road? >> alicia, the bill clocked in at 99 pages. and they seem to be six key sections. i'll talk through them quickly for you. there is the recision of on obligated funds, which is those covid aid claw backs. so taking away the unused covid funds, which is a point of contention for many democrats. you have that family and small business taxpayer protection section, that's going to be created to irs spending cuts. then you have student loan payments, which is resuming those with accrued interest. however, it does keep biden's student debt relief program in place, which is before the supreme court right now. and then of course there's the work requirements for government assistance programs. we have been talking about snap and tamp all day, so that way it gets into the weeds there. then there's permanent reforms,
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related to energy permits. and then of course increasing the debt limit. and so the text of the bill is out, we will be pouring through this, and that means that members will be receiving this bill. they have 72 hours to review it before it hits the floor. early reporting says that it's likely to be voted on wednesday evening after the market closes. after that, it heads to the senate where it is far from a done deal there. >> julia, let me ask you about that. because that was something new that has developed since i last spoke with you. we got a statement from senator mcconnell, talk to me about what was in that statement? >> yes. senator mitch mcconnell, the leader said that the senate must act swiftly and passed this agreement. he's out with the statement tonight that is supporting this deal, which is crucial because without the support of all 100 senators on board, anyone
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senator could delay the process. and with that june 5th deadline from the treasury secretary janet yellen every moment counts. and so having mitch mcconnell minority leader on board would really help with those votes to swiftly get this passed in the senate, presuming that it makes it through the house. >> nbc's julia jester, speed reader extraordinary. don't those people who are taking the capital to or know you are trying to work on a holiday weekend? julia, as always my friend, thank you. next, our colleague richard lui sat down with two oscar winning actor is about their new project, american born chinese, and the realities of the immigrant experience. stick with us. s. all with an incredible new iphone. get iphone 14 pro on us when you switch. it's your verizon.
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metaverse. >> he is a new student and he's chinese, like you. >> i'm not from this world. >> it is a spectacular stew, you could say of everything everywhere all at once. it does include oscar winner michelle yeoh. >> these are important stories to be told about people who look like us. >> audiences, i feel like now, right now are ready for it. especially young audiences, they are more sophisticated now, like me. >> and like president biden. >> we see the possibilities of the community, and all the young people here. >> he hosted the show at the white house. the largest asian american gathering there ever. >> people are watching and understanding media from all sorts of different places, watching anomie, right? watching things with subtitles which used to be a thing, right? >> you kind of stand out, obviously. >> there's also a bit of rom-com. sydney taylor plays a lot of interest. >> i want them to have a good friendship. >> maybe not. >> we didn't know actually how
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it would end. >> we got scripts to script, so. >> as we were shooting the episode, we would find it what happens next. >> open, like the story of this phantasmagoria gulf east. the son of a job, i got asked, and a 90s sitcom caricature of asian racial tropes. >> what could go won? >> enjoy, but beware. act or activists daniel wu place illogical monkey king. >> when i watch 16 candles, that has a long duct on on screen, i go oh my god. you know, to where we are now. and seeing what an accurate representation of our culture, about her family lives have been like onscreen. i was telling my daughter this morning actually, this is not normal. this doesn't always happen, so don't think that it is. >> this cast as not. >> a lot of this. >> a lot of hands ringing, sure. but also, a lot of hands
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clapping for this bellwether of a new tied. >> we also spoke with the producer to push for the green on this series. they said 2023 is the right time, because recent harassment and asian american community has spurred on awareness and openness to learn about what people of color experience. they are trying to say the opening here is similar to when 16 candles was out. >> this is so fun. i loved watching the preview. it's sort of a head fake, because you think it's going to be this high school, super emo thing, and that all of a sudden there are major adventure. >> it's kind like the sign of the times we can bring it all together, right? we can bring in immigration, english as a second language, race altogether. and then all of a sudden they're bringing us phantasmagoria coal staff, which really is a symbol that we can think differently, and bring it altogether. all these tough things that you don't necessarily know and put together. >> there was a moment in your interview that i want to ask you about what you're talking about stereotypes, and sort of like hand to the face.
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because that was a lot of what we grew up with. >> it was. and that's the thing, right? in 2023 we can put -- like a third of it isn't subtitles. and you can do that today. now in the year 2000? forget about it. in 1980, which we're talking about? you know when i did that? yeah, that was just like, i don't see that again. there is no way that could've been pitched in that year. >> final thoughts, your favorite part of this? >> my favorite part was actually the phantasmagoria coast of, the metaphysical pfannstiel. because it makes it digestible. >> richard lui, thank you so much. what a fun note to end on. and tonight, you can join and is msnbc's katie phang for an encore presentation of aapi women, in honor of aapi heritage month. that is tonight, ten p am eastern on msnbc, and screaming now on peacock. more american voices, after this quick break. .
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now face. we know that they are looking at wednesday as a possible date when the house could be in session and vote on this. senators have been told they are aiming for friday for senators to place the vote, and we will keep our eyes on this developing story. that is all the time i have for today, i am alicia menendez, thank you for spending part of your sunday, especially this holiday with us. make sure you've all the show on twitter, instagram, and on tiktok. that is at alicia on msnbc, i'm gonna see we are next weekend for more american voices. but for now, i handed over to my colleague betty hassan. hello mehdi. ty hassan. hell>> thank you so much, aim is actually a way today animal for two hours, and i think any tours to get through some of the state deal stuff. because i'm not for a stand on it now. >> it is -- >> it's also -- it's very divisive, a lot of people think it's good, all of people think it's bad included in the left. we're gonna debate that tonight, so alicia have a great rest tonight, i'm gonna go to and

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