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surprise for something that was supposed to to be a two-week theater thing. >> it turned into a broadway run and tony nomination performance which is meaningful. as a theater kid, waitress was an extraordinary adventure for me but i never imagined myself as a broadway composer, imagined myself to be on stage in this way. this community means more to me than anything in the world. >> you can listen to the audible original breakthrough next wednesday june 1st streaming where you get your podcast. sara bareilles, thank you very much. that does it for us. have a great rest of your memorial day weekend.
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prevents the worst possible crisis, default for the first time in our american history, economic recession, millions of jobs lost and protects key priorities, accomplishments and values that congressional democrats and i fought long and hard for. president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy have a deal to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for spending cuts. we will go through what is in the agreement and the reaction from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. we have new reporting on the evidence that manhattan prosecutors have in the hush money case against former president donald trump. also ahead, the latest from the war in ukraine following the largest drone attack yet by russian forces on kyiv. good morning. it's 8:00 a.m. on the east coast on this monday, may 29th memorial day. i'm jonathan lemire. joe, mika and willie will be
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back with me live tomorrow. let's dive into the news. in washington, a deal has finally been made over the debt ceiling. >> we have good news. i spoke to speaker mccarthy. we reached a bipartisan budget agreement. we are ready to move to the full congress. it takes the threat of catastrophic default off the table, protects hard earned economic recovery and the agreement represents a compromise, not everybody got what they want. that's the responsibility of governing. >> when you negotiate with two parties, you have to work with both sides of the aisle. it's not 100% what everybody wants but the country will be stronger. this will be transformational. congress will vote to spend less money this year than last year. >> the house will likely vote on the bill wednesday then the senate should take it up
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shortly after. if passed, the united states should be able to avoid default. the agreement as is would raise the debt ceiling until 2025 which means the government should be able to pay its bills until after the next election. under the agreement, domestic programs will see an inflation adjusted reduction but those cuts would be mitigated by redirecting funding from the irs and other areas that house republicans wanted to claw back. the deal features new work requirements for some federal aid programs including food stamps and family welfare benefits. if passed, the bill would rescind billions in unspent covid relief funds. it would keep in place president biden's student debt relief program as the supreme court continues to deliberate over the fate. in light of the agreement, both house speaker mccarthy and president biden are claiming that the bill gives major wins
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for their respective parties with the gop saying the deal brings down spending and democrats are suggesting that it protects gains made over the past two years. the deal to raise the debt ceiling is facing some criticism from both sides of the aisle. the head of the house progressive caucus signaled yesterday that some democrats simply won't support the agreement. >> democrats watching right now at the white house, your friend hakeem jeffries, others, do they have to worry about the progressive caucus and whether or not your caucus -- >> yes. >> okay. thank you so much. >> yes, they have to worry. >> okay. >> on the republican side, gop congressman chip roy, a member of the house freedom caucus offered his own colorful criticism of the bill and vowed to try to stop it from passing despite the objections from
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some of these freedom caucus members, speaker mccarthy said the majority of republicans are on board. >> we did a conference call and in the conference, over 995% were excited about what they saw. >> joining us now, leigh ann caldwell. congressional reporter for the "new york times," luke broadwater and chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" peter baker. thanks to all of you for being with us. leigh ann, walk us through the last 48 to 72 hours how we got here. how did this agreement get nailed down between the president and house speaker. >> so, there was obviously these negotiations going on. real intense negotiations more than a week. it was hit or miss for a long
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time. then the white house team, the omb director, the top white house adviser and they were talking to patrick mchenry and derek graves and the way that this deal finally came together is that they realized how they could find 218 votes. they had to go through every issue and try to come up with the best possible scenario and combination of policies that they think could pass the house of representatives. that's ultimately the key here. now, what they did not do is did not go back and forth between their members during the negotiations and back to the negotiating table. they were negotiating based on what they thought the members would be able to support. now what they have to do is they have to sell this plan,
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this deal, this legislation to their members. that is what has been going on, especially on the republican side for the past 24 hours. >> so, luke, let's dive into that. the whip operation from both parties. where do things stand? publicly they suggested that they are confident they can get the votes they need. we know there are holdouts and resistance on both sides of the aisle. tell us where we are and will they get the number? >> you can see how this deal could fall apart, right? the house freedom caucus has declared war on the deal. that is 35 no votes there. if they can convince more and more republicans to see things their way and join with them and kevin mccarthy loses that majority, then the progressive caucus on the left revolts against the deal, that could kill it.
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with that said, as of now, kevin mccarthy is shoring up support from the center. you saw the new democrats came out in favor of the deal yesterday, that is 100 votes there for it. you are seeing a lot of statements from centrists and establishment republicans in favor of the deal. so, it does look right now that kevin mccarthy has momentum in getting the votes he needs. remember, he doesn't need every republican. he needs a majority of them and then they need a majority of the democrats to stand with it as well. the democrats are doing a fair amount of whipping as well, certainly the white house is, and it does seem like they are getting more and more support among democrats for this compromise. >> so, peter baker, let's talk about the white house approach and from president biden. he made no secret that he believes the key to politics is to work across the aisle. he has been willing to anger the forces on the left believing at the end of the day they will be with him or no
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alternative to go elsewhere. give us the latest from the west wing how they view this deal coming together and what the reaction will be? >> what president biden wants to do is present himself as the one person that could make bipartisan work in a partisan era. he has a record to talk about already in terms of infrastructure bill and semiconductor industry bill, the toxic burn pit bill. now he can take this to the country and say we can make government work. i can work across the aisle even if i don't get everything that i want. that is not satisfying to a lot of the democrats. the house democrats have a different imperative. there imperative is to win back the house. to them, sharpening the differences rather than coming together is the way to do that. they have a different starting point when they look at the negotiations. the president of the united states is responsible not to
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let the country go into default. he made concessions in order to do that. he said he wouldn't negotiate but that's what he did, of course. he didn't get any new democratic priorities in there but he did a lot to shave down what the republicans started with. he protected the gains of the last two years when democrats were in charge in terms of his climate priorities, student loan forgiveness and in terms of the larger spending increases that happened over those two years. basically those are baked in that he feels puts them beyond challenge assuming they can get it through the house and senate. >> so, luke, the white house was betting early in the process that speaker mccarthy, who took him 15 votes to become speaker that he wouldn't be able to control his conference to this point, that he would lose control and that would give them the advantage in the negotiations. he has held them together. talk about where kevin mccarthy
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stands, has he consolidated his grip on power in the house or do the freedom caucus members could do an act of sabotage and blow up the deal and potentially his speaker ship. >> kevin mccarthy has referred to himself as the underestimated man in washington. almost every press conference he reminds us that he is constantly underestimated. he did overcome the 15 votes to become speaker and that he did unify the conference to pass bills through the house that many thought could not be passed. so, he has done the job of rallying republicans to his side. this is the big test to date. you are seeing a ton of angst from the freedom caucus. they are posting vomit emojis in response to the deal.
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matt gaetz said he didn't think the votes were there to ought mccarthy from the speaker ship. there is a threat of the motion to vacate, any can call it at any time but gaetz said he didn't think the votes were there. >> when madison and jefferson, good thing they took into account the vomit emojis. this is happening under the backdrop of 2024 and president biden's campaign, he plays a novel strategy to win back having voters from unusually long bench of supporters of the administration. the biden campaign is en massing many that will come from outside the white house gate. at the best campaign surrogates are a win-win. they get force multiply years,
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valley day tors. surrogates get a bit of chips to cash in. surrogates have their own interests and a well documented tendency to go off script. an overreliance could open up biden to criticism that he is reprising the so-called basement campaign of 2020 because he is unable or unwilling to hit the stump himself. then on the republican side, florida governor and newly announced presidential candidate ron desantis will head to iowa tomorrow on his first official campaign trip. the visit is the first stop on what the desantis team calls the four day great american comeback tour after several events in iowa, he is expected to travel through the early voting states of new hampshire and south carolina. this is after his glitch launch on twitter last week. let's talk about governor desantis and the republican field. he is still at this moment, no doubt, considered the leading trump alternative even as other
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candidates are getting in the race. but he has a series of missteps before he announced the campaign and the launch itself. what is at stake here knowing how early we are in this campaign, what is at stake for desantis? >> it's interesting, leading up to desantis launch, people close to the trump campaign were telling me that they think desantis best day as a presidential candidate will be the day he announces because that is when people get the most attention. people who launch tend to have good days. if that was the best day of his presidential campaign, that is probably not a good sign for the rest of his presidential campaign. i will say that he has not really been tested outside of florida. that is what is going to be the biggest challenge for him. he is still insuhl lar, not
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only in who he communicates with on his staff and family as far as his advisers are concerned but press as well. it was an echo chamber who he spoke to on his presidential launch day. can he emerge from that ahead of these early campaign states, talk to the national media and, so, it will be a big test for him. donald trump has a lot of practice at this. he is very, very good at dealing with the media. so, we will see if ron desantis is able to move forward and gain any support because at this point in the last couple of weeks and months of the polls, his polling has dropped. >> desantis doing an appearance on fox news later this morning. questions abound about his ability to connect to voters face to face. peter, the white house strategy, you covered so many
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white houses and campaigns. it's not unusual for a reelect to be based out of the white house and the first year before they face voters there is a limit what any president does. this one in particular, because of questions about his age and pandemic influenced the campaign. how much is he out there and interacting with voters, what is the thinking? >> you got to remember, president biden is running for the fourth time. this will be the first time that he has a full on campaign from start to finish, right? the first time he didn't make it to the gate, to iowa. the second time he didn't make it past iowa. the third time he was in the basement, because of covid, not out there. this time he needs to be out there to show he is vigorous and maintain a schedule for
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voters and concerns about his age and not run a death march. put him out there enough to demonstrate his leadership without having to run him ragged and he has the advantage of being the incumbent at a time when he has no challenger in the party. that is a big advantage. the incumbents who tend to lose had challenges within their party before they get to the general election, a sign of weakness. president biden has his party pretty much knitted behind him even though there is concern about his age, 86 at the end of his term. vitality is important to show. the deal he cut over the weekend is important to his narrative that he is a mature leader who can work across the aisle at a time of great dysfunction. i think you will see him making the argument that he is making government work, whether it be
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building new bridges, reinvigorating the semiconductor industry and the high inflakes the last year or so. >> biden's inner circle made the bet that voters will ignore the beltway noise and reward him for getting things done in a bipartisan fashion. thank you so much for starting us off on this hoyle. we really appreciate it. we turn to news this morning in iowa. search and rescue crews are looking for any possible survivors after a six-story apartment building partially collapsed in the town of davenport. according to police, seven people were rescued from the rubble. at this point, it's not clear how many people are unaccounted for. an investigation into the cause of the collapse is already underway. joining us now from downtown davenport, nbc news correspondent shaq brewster. what is the latest there? tough images behind you. >> reporter: tough images
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behind me. we heard there is an additional victim rescued overnight as work continues. look at what we see and what is left of this six-story apartment building behind me. we saw in the past couple of minutes, a rescued dog, one of the six on site working with the rescue worker at that pile of rubble that you see at the bottom. officials are saying at this point there are no known victims, no known fatalities. when you look at the pictures, there are fears that that may change. >> the fricken building just collapsed. >> reporter: a despite search for survivors after a collapse of an apartment building sunday. >> i don't know how many are injured. >> reporter: officials say crews were dispatched to the scene of a six-story apartment complex sunday evening. >> the rear building collapsed, separated from the building. >> reporter: fire crews initially rescuing seven people then escorting a dozen more
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residents who were able to walk away on their own. >> a large natural gas leak. >> reporter: some residents saying they smelled a strong gas smell in the building. >> they called the city with complaints. >> reporter: local officials acknowledging residents were filing complaints about the building for years. the owner of the building did have permits in place for repairs. this incident comes nearly two years after the tragic partial collapse of the condo building that claimed the lives of 98 residents in surfside, florida, and a month after another shocking collapse of a parking garage in new york city. this morning as rescue teams continue to comb through the rubble for survivors, one of the biggest obstacles is the stability of the structure. >> we are not sure how stable the building is. we want to make sure that the
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responders can process through. but we still want to get there as quickly as possible. >> reporter: a little more news from the press conference that is happening right now as we speak. officials say they are still in rescue mode but at a certain point that will turn into recovery mode but potentially a good sign, there are no -- no one who is unaccounted for at this point. they don't know of anyone trapped in the rubble. again you see the devastation and what is left behind. still concerns there. at this point, no one trapped according to officials. >> that is, indeed, good news. let's continue to hope for the best. shaq brewster reporting live from davenport, iowa, thank you so very much. still ahead here on "morning joe," russia launches its largest drone strike on kyiv since the start of the war in ukraine. we will get you the latest on the fighting and the state of the war. plus, on this memorial day, we catch up with a wisconsin
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family that made the ultimate sacrifice two decades ago. a death in the family that prompted comparisons to saving private ryan. we will have that story. you are watching a special edition of "morning joe" on this memorial day. we will be right back. y. we will be right back. find the perfect vacation rental for you booking.com, booking. yeah. america is on the brink of defaulting on its debt, and donald trump is telling republicans in congress: “you're going to have to do a default.” he's pushing an extreme agenda to slash the basics we depend on, hurting the middle class, seniors, and veterans. a default would crash our economy, delay social security checks, and put basic services at risk. with so much on the line, now is their chance to finally stand up to trump's chaos. so tell republicans in congress: say no to trump. say no to default.
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increasingly unsettled world where long-standing principles are at risk. >> that was vice president kamala harris delivering a commencement speech at west point saturday praising the roughly 950 graduating cadets for their noble sacrifice in serving the country. joining us now on set, lindsay riser. you visited a family whose three daughters went to war but one never made it home tell us about their story. >> the family made international headlines when their daughters were serving at the start of the iraq war. the family never imagined they would be deployed and they were and tragedy struck. now they are channeling their grief to try to help other
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families experiencing loss. >> reporter: it started as a testament of american patriotism. >> we have the story of a "modern family" that has a lot of people thinking back to "saving private ryan." >> reporter: three sisters going to war in iraq with the wisconsin national guard. >> i have a twin sister. it's hard. >> reporter: but less than a year into her deployment, michelle was killed when her humvee was ambushed. sisters charity and rachel flew home. michelle's casket followed. the 2004 death made international headlines raising questions about what to do when siblings go to war. >> she had seen the worst of iraq. she kept her faith in god and humanity. >> reporter: today michelle's parents still live in wisconsin. >> before we lost michelle or after, it was -- it was --
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everything changed. it never goes back. >> reporter: these days they find joy in their 10 grandchildren. john is writing a second book after sharing michelle's story in hopes of helping other families cope with grief. >> why was it important for you to be so black and white about the darkest moments of your family's life. >> because others were going through the same thing. they may know that they are not alone. >> reporter: it's been 20 years since the start of the iraq war and 19 since michelle's passing but her memory goes on in a street sign near her childhood home and her niece's name. >> i am so happy to be named after her. i wonder what she would have been like and if she had kids of her own. >> reporter: michelle's twin who retired from the military after serving eight years lives in texas with three girls of
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her own including oldest, madison michelle, all preparing to honor michelle's memory. >> a solemn you lose somebody you loved so much and honor all the soldiers that lost their lives you look at it in a new way. >> i try to be the best person i can be and that she is looking down on me. i try to make her proud. >> reporter: the family says while time has sanded the sharp edges of grief, there is not a day that goes by that they don't think of michelle. >> she will be gone 20 years next april. that is as old as she was. you never want to believe that your children will be forgotten. she is not forgotten. >> reporter: impossibly high price for any family to have to pay. this weekend for a grateful nation, a time to remember. there was so much discussion after michelle was killed
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whether rachel and charity would return home or return to overseas and finish out the deployment. the family wanted them home. they had another family overseas that they wanted to be there for as well. ultimately they were told you are targets. this story got so much attention they were urged not to go back overseas so they served stateside. >> thank you for bringing us that story. appreciate it. now, let's bring in retired master sergeant jason beard beardsley. master sergeant, great to see you again. thank you for your service. let's start there on this memorial day. what are your reflections of your time in the service but to those that you know who paid the ultimate sacrifice, what does this day mean for you and what should it mean for us all? >> thanks for the intro
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package. that is a powerful story. this idea that men and women who serve are just like us, have as aspirations, dreams, hopes. a lot of people are missing that special person in their life. a son missing his father or his mother because of these things. it's important for us as americans to remember that these men and women served so that the freedoms that are in our great founding can be upheld. the principles of democracy, the principles of freedom, equality, captured by this great country are represented by the men and women that volunteered to go into harm's way and paid the ultimate sacrifice. a sad, somber reminder but i like at the end of that package you ran, you leave people with hope and how to make the
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country greater. our mission is how to ensure that that sacrifice is actually paid forward so that veterans and others in the american fabric are treated the way they should be. >> we showed pictures of arlington national cemetery. president biden will head there later today to pay respects. i have gone a number of times. it's a powerful place. i urge everyone to please visit at some point. this memorial day is being marked under the shadow of war. over the weekend, russia launched the largest drone attack on ukraine's capital since the conflict began. 54 iranian made drones were launched into kyiv and 52 were shot down. nbc news was not able to independently verify those numbers. ukraine says the strikes targeted military facilities and critical infrastructure there. the air alert that warns citizens of incoming attacks
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lasted more than five hours. at least one person died after being hit by falling debris. a shopping mall and a warehouse caught fire according to military officials. the strikes on kyiv follow after an attack friday when russia launched a missile into a hospital. let's get your thoughts where things stand in the conflict. bakhmut has fallen to russian forces. they are lobbying these missiles on civilians. they are watching for kyiv to launch the counter offensive. where do you think it stands now? >> it's sobering to talk about the direct cost of war here. when you saw the iranian drones attack, you are seeing a lot of the sort of escalation of
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warfare. that is the risk. every stage of this game we ratchet up what is the direct cost of war. in this case we have a lot of layered defense that the british, germans and americans have contributed to. they are able to knock down a lot of these air assets. but this is russia's way of keeping ukraine off balance. the more they attack with these sort of inconsequential drone attacks that get knocked out, we are expending or the ukrainians are expending missiles, antiaircraft machine guns. what we are seeing is a back and forth ratcheting up of the evolution. if somebody doesn't press with our authority and diplomatic pressures to off-ramp the war, we will see this escalation continue. it's hard to watch, especially as a veteran, those direct costs of war. what we have to account for is
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indirect cost. americans today, we have four times as many lost to suicide at home than in afghanistan. >> the in direct costs. we think of those veterans on memorial day. >> with that indirect cost, that's why it's important for folks to hold our representatives accountable and get the health care to the veterans they need, va health care reforms go a long way to helping the mental health of those who have suffered these trauma causes. but, today, we ought to remember those who have fallen and given the full measure. >> that can't be underscored enough. retired master sergeant jason beardsley, thank you for being here and for your service. up next on "morning joe," a live update on the expected travel rush this morning as
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8:40 on the east coast. light traffic in orlando. don't believe your eyes. families were back on the road this holiday weekend in a big way. after years of low travel due to covid-19, the memorial
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travel has hit. here is nbc correspondent emily. how are the roads and should drivers be bracing for brutal traffic as they make their way home at the end of the weekend. >> reporter: over my shoulder you see the new jersey turnpike. at the moment, that's the key word here, things are moving smoothly. drivers shouldn't anticipate that the rest of the day as millions of people are set to return home from are the memorial day weekend celebrations. the key today is to leave before 10:00 a.m. this morning. some of the worst log jams build up between noon and 3:00 p.m. that is the hot spot with some drivers returning to major metro areas like seattle, boston, new york, tampa pave, traffic times could double this afternoon. brace for that. the traffic could linger into tomorrow. avoid the roadways between 4:00 and 6:00 p.m.
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tomorrow. aaa called this the third busiest memorial day weekend on record. tens of millions celebrating. it's fueled by savings at the pump. the national average is down by more than a dollar compared to last year. some welcome relief, calming relief for delivers stuck behind the wheel later today. when we talk about air travel, so far so good. the transportation secretary, pete buttigieg tweeting the first couple of days over the memorial day weekend we saw less than 1% of flights canceled. good news there. the airlines face another stress test today. another 42,000 flights are scheduled to depart throughout the day. this is as tsa screened more than 20.6 million passengers between thursday and saturday. on some of those days, we are seeing the highest numbers, the highest traffic since 2019. the memorial travel day weekend
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getting off, unofficial start to summer getting off to a roaring start. regardless if you hit the roadways or airports, pack your patience and built in extra time. there will be lines. >> thank you very much. for those of you on the roads later, good luck to you. up next on morning joe, president biden is congratulating turkey's leader who won re-election last night to another five year term. what it means for that deeply polarized country. this memorial day edition of "morning joe" will be back in a minute. back in a minute. think you're not at risk for shingles? it's time to wake up. because shingles could wake up in you. if you're over 50, talk to your doctor or pharmacist about shingles prevention.
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welcome back. we turn to an important story from overseas. turkish president erdogan won winning 52% to 47%. the turkish council officially declared erdogan the winner of
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the runoff election yesterday. it sparked celebrations outside the presidential palace while his opponent expressed concern abouter do began in his next term. erdogan has been the president of turkey since 2014 and the country has slipped further into authoritarian country under his rule. joe biden congratulated his turkish counterpart. i look forward to continuing to work together on bilateral issues and shared global challenges. for more, let's bring in foreign correspondent matt bradley who joins us live from are can i's capital. great to see you. give us more on the reaction there and a what it means for the west. erdogan has been a thorn in the side of the united states and nato and blocking sweden from
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joining the nato alliance. give us reactions there and in turkey and abroad to his achievement of another term? >> it says a lot, jonathan that what we have been seeing in the past 12 hours is world leaders who do see erdogan as a problematic person. they are congratulating him and welcoming him into the fold as usual. he bucked the trend of the nato alliance in isolating russia and reached out to russia but doing that as a crucial partner for the west he has made himself indispensable. he has provided a lifeline to the west in order the west. while he has not really been participating in a lot of the strongest actions nato has taken against moscow, he was able to negotiate a deal that allowed ukrainian farmers to move grain
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out of ukraine through the black sea. that was not just really important to ukrainians and russians, but it was hugely important to the entire world, especially developing countries where that grain is a really important source of food. when we talk about him as a thorn in the side of the west, yes, he is, but he's also a very useful intermediary. you mentioned 2014 was when he became president first, but he's been running this country for about 20 years. he started out as prime minister. he has just wrapped himself around all the levers of power in this country since then. also the media, that's why you keep hearing that phrase, that this election was free, but not fair. that's because erdogan used the powers of the state in order to mollify the public, which helped him to stay in power and gather votes, particularly from his base, the more islamist, conservative, poorer parts of
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this country. really i think a lot of the dynamics here will remind our audience of some of the dynamics in the united states where you see on the coasts a more progressive, more left wing kind of politics and once you get into the center and the heartland here in turkey, you start to see a far more conservative outlook. those are the people who have awarded erdogan yet another shot at power. as the incumbent, he can be blamed for a lot of the problems. there is inflation all around the world right now. every other central bank in the world and every high school economics textbook would tell you in order to fight inflation, you need to raise interest rates. erdogan long ago did the exact opposite and that has sent prices here skyrocketing. some economists say it's far more than the official figures
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which put inflation at 50 to 80%. now it's more like 100%. that's why when we talk to voters, they have said there's one issue in this election and it's the economy. i spoke with some of them. here's what they told me. [indiscernible] >> the prices are always getting higher and higher. we're actually having a hard time trying to live. >> my friends think they are not going to do well in turkey and they are looking forward to go abroad to europe and so on. >> reporter: given that erdogan did prevail, this was still the most formidable challenge he has
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faced in his 20 years of dominating politics in this country, but he gave a bombastic, very critical speech last night. it wasn't a unifying speech. it just goes to show for the next five years, we can expect not humility, but more hubris from erdogan. >> matt bradley live for us in turkey, thank you so much. coming up here on "morning joe," i've asked the producers to totally clear out the next block so we can talk about one thing, the boston celtics. what do we always say, son?
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>> suarez walked the mariners off with that tiebreaking three-run homer in the tenth inning. seattle have righted the ship. they won 6-3 over the pittsburgh pirates. let's continue with st. petersburg. a combined 27 hits and 21 runs between the rays and the dodgers ended in an 11-10 tampa bay victory. the rays took 2 out of 3 from the dodgers. to kansas city. it took out a strip of lights on the stadium scoreboard that was left smoking when the ball bounced off it, almost like that
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scene in "the natural" where the light stands blew up when robert redford hit it. there was also a hot spot on the links at colonial country club in ft. worth, texas. scotie scheffler at the par 3 8th hole for an ace. there it goes. that was actually his second hole in one at the number 8 this week with harris english carding an ace back on friday. scheffler would finish in a tie for third. grillo won the tournament after some drama on the 18th hole. his drive drifted right with his ball landing in a stream along the cart path. for nearly seven minutes bobbed its way 100 yards back towards
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the tee before eventually stopping against a rock. but the main sports event of today, the nba's eastern conference finals resume tonight for one last matchup in boston after the celtics force game 7 with a heart-stopping win over the heat on saturday. the celtics will try to become the first team in nba playoff history to come back from a 3-0 deficit to win a best-of-seven series. joining us, mike, i'm a celtics fan. game 6 almost killed me repeatedly. this team has made it as difficult as possible. they blew a late lead, but then derrick white comes through.
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marcus smart misses the three. white flies in, tips it back with one-tenth of a second left. >> it produced a quote that will go down in boston sport where is derrick white said afterwards it don't do no good to stand in the corner. you can see how much ground he covered once marcus smart's shot did not go down. the celtics were about to collapse again. they were about to collapse over the last three minutes. they had led by nine. jimmy butler makes three free throws. his feet will behind the line, but there's still three seconds left. ever since then it's been a festival. they've killed fans again by
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invoking the memory of october of 2004. but now they have to close the deal. i'm not sure that the heat are going to be an easy out tonight. >> i think the series turned when a-rod and jeter turned up court side for game 4. i know you're a cardinals fan, so i'm sorry, but if the celtics were able to pull this off, the city of boston would have the greatest comeback in baseball. what would this mean if they're able to do this? we should note if there's any team that could win three straight and lose game 7 at home, it's probably this year's boston celtics. >> lose tonight and there will be no derrick white statue. when you think back to that
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yankees/red sox come back, people always talk about the dave roberts play. but to me, you never felt comfortable until that home run in game 7. i don't think there was any question. certainly it's good to know boston sports fans will have one more thing to feel like they're a part of lore about if they're able to pull this off. ever since game 4, they've been favored every game since this. this heat barely made the playoffs. they barely beat the bulls just to get in the playoffs in the first place. boston is clearly the better team. now, that does not mean they're going to win. frankly, john, i feel bad for you, because if boston is ahead
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by seven with two minutes left, you are not going to feel the least bit relaxed, neither will any boston sports fans. >> there is a difference here. what happened in 2004, that red sox team steamrolled cardinals. that may be a very different story this time around whether the celtic win tonight or whether the heat stave this off and move into the finals. i think either team would be a significant underdog against denver. >> i don't know if the celtics would be a significant underdog. in the nuggets/lakers series, the nuggets have been the best team in the western conference all year. jokic is like a perfect basketball player. there's nothing he can't do, except maybe run and jump. a great passer, shooter and
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rebounder. he's the closest thing that i can remember as a center to bill walton when he was young before he started getting hurt. he's that kind of complete player. i think they will be favored in the final if it's the celtics. i don't want to bury the heat any more than the celtics got buried in boston after game 3, but that would be an amazing final, because the celtics really were the best team in the eastern conference all year long and the nuggets were the best team out there. it would be fun to see. >> for the casual fan, this is their introduction to jokic's brilliance. you wrote it's going to soon be incredibly expensive to watch sports because of the shifting media landscape. tell us what you mean. >> i have a friend of mine that
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doesn't watch sports at all but subscribes to cable. she's been saying, great, i'm glad i'm paying espn $8 a month to not watch it. that's about to change in the age of cord cutting. these channels have had to go toward streaming option. espn reported they are starting to look at a stand-alone subscription product. now they've got to get that a la carte. that's going to get expensive. it could be up to $40 a month to get espn proper. it could be bundled with hulu and disney. never mind what you're paying to watch the peacock game on sundays or the amazon prime game on thursday. you start to add it all up and cable starts to look pretty good right now compared to how much you have to pay to watch each of these games. yankees fans pointed out that over the next five games, you
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need four subscription packages to watch all five games. that seems to be the pattern moving forward. >> will leech, thank you. your new book is an absolute must read. we're a little bit past the top of the hour. we return to our top story. it wasn't pretty and it's not yet a done deal, but congressional republicans in the white house have finally hammered out a framework to lift the nation's debt ceiling and avoid a devastating unforced error that could have sent the economy spiraling out of control. we have live reporting from the white house and capitol hill, but first kelly o'donnell starts us off. >> we've got good news. >> reporter: this morning, a critical breakthrough, a plan that would avert a catastrophic first in history default by suspending the nation's
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borrowing limit until early 2025 and tightening federal spending. >> we've reached a bipartisan budget agreement. now we're ready to move to the full congress. >> reporter: the tentative deal followed days of negotiations between president biden, house speaker kevin mccarthy and their teams. the result is a compromise that congress must still vote to approve, so the drama is not yet over. >> it's not 100% what everybody wants. when you look, the country is going to be stronger. >> reporter: the agreement would hold nondefense federal spending roughly flat for 2024 with a 1% increase for 2025, expand some work requirements for recipients of federal food assistance, snap benefits until 2030, but exempts veterans and the homeless. unspent covid funding, about $30 billion, would be clawed back.
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$20 billion from the irs would be shifted to meet other government needs. the plan also funds veterans' medical care and keeps student debt relief. lawmakers will now be able to read the 99-page bill with a house vote expected wednesday. democrats' progressive caucus with a mixed reaction. >> i'm not happy with some of the things i'm hearing about, but they are not cutting the deficit and they are not cutting spending. >> reporter: both the white house and speaker looking to claim pieces of victory. >> we did a conference call with our conference and over 95% were overwhelmingly excited about what they see. >> i have no idea if he has the votes. i expect he does or i don't think he would have made the agreement. >> kelly o'donnell joins us now. also with us sahil kapur and john brez that han.
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thank you, kelly. very busy day in washington. give us the mood at the white house and what's their sense of how the next few days would play out? >> reporter: i think there's a big exhale because getting to this tentative agreement was really pushing the boulder up the mountain. the president who's tried to make a signature of his time in office bipartisan frameworks and achievements can add that to the list here. now, the big question is how will sort of the outer wings of both parties on capitol hill deal with this. we heard a bit there from the progressive caucus, some concerns. certainly will be those on the republican side who have those concerns too. but the white house views this as, first and foremost, a way to avert the calamity of default. we have a lot of work to do in
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terms of seeing this get through the legislative process. but we know the horribles that would come with default, with job losses and recession and market fluctuations and retirement savings at risk and even the importance of federal payments to veterans and social security recipients being delayed. simply having a plan that avoids that is a big win for both the president and the speaker. now, achieving the next step, that will largely be happening on capitol hill. speaker mccarthy says he can deliver. then the president and top democrats will have to make certain they have votes to get this beyond the 218 that's needed. so a big achievement in terms of getting something done. people will pick at what's in it, but in terms of avoiding crisis, that's the good news of this moment, but more to come over the next several days.
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>> let's do a deep dive now from capitol hill in terms of how each party is looking at this. let's start with speaker mccarthy. this is a real test for him. it took him 15 votes to become speaker. the house freedom caucus has already signalled significant unhappiness with this deal. how many votes might mccarthy lose? >> tomorrow the house rules committee, which controls the debate on the floor, they begin marking up the bill. that's the first step to get this passed in the house. that panel is controlled by the speaker but there's conservatives on there who may vote against it. mccarthy and the leadership feel pretty good about this. they have 222 house republicans. they think they can get 130, 140, maybe even 150 upper end. they think they can deliver.
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he has to deliver at least half the house majority. they feel confident about that. they do know that conservatives don't like the bill. you have groups like freedom works, others out there pummelling it. there's a group called aan, they're a pro mccarthy group. the next 48 hours are going to be pretty frantic on the house side. >> there's going to need to be democrats who support this. we heard some up happiness from congressman jayapal and others on the left. how are they going to approach the vote? >> there's a very short amount of time to get this complicated legislation through the house and the senate. if the house rules committee does clear this, it tees it up
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for a vote on wednesday. that leaves just five days from then until june 5th when the u.s. is set to run out of money for it to pass the senate. it could take as many as five days to pass the senate if conservative senators hold it up, use their tools to prevent unanimous consent on a speedy vote. democrats have a complicated set of incentives. democrats don't feel a primary responsibility to push this over the line. this is a mccarthy/biden led effort. you see some concerns from the progressive caucus about the fact that there are new work requirements on snap. they're not happy about the move on permitting reforms. they're not happy about the mountain valley pipeline being expedited. they believe this goes against climate change goals. there is reason for democrats to be optimistic. the new democrat coalition,
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which is a group of dozens of center left democrats, put out a positive statement calling it a viable bipartisan solution to end this crisis. at the end of the day, you have democrats invested in president biden's success looking at such a compressed timeline to get this over the line to avert catastrophe. one last point on republicans, there are some members of that rules committee who are in the freedom caucus who are actively trashing this bill. let's put up a couple of tweets. chip roy called this deal a turd sandwich. he rejects the idea that 95% of the conference was on board. then there's ralph norman, another member of those 20 republicans who tried to stop mccarthy from being speaker. the conservatives are right about one thing. the cuts here are very modest.
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it's nothing close to balancing the budget. it will not change the long-term trajectory of spending. >> that rebellion we're hearing from members of the freedom caucus in shall we say colorful language, we know speaker mccarthy can be called up by a single member. do we think their unhappiness is enough to where his speakership could be in jeopardy? >> don't see that right at the moment. they are unhappy, there's no question about it. but a lot of these freedom caucus members are unhappy anyway. the thing is they did pass the limit save grow act on republican votes only. that had big cuts. mccarthy needed that to get to the table with biden, then he had to retreat on it because he
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doesn't have a big majority and he only controls one chamber. he had to cut a deal. the thing about the freedom caucus, they don't like compromise. i don't see mccarthy under threat at the moment, but we'll have to see. they're unhappy. how unhappy, we'll know a lot more tomorrow and by wednesday. >> i think both the white house and the speaker's office pleased if this deal gets done, they don't have to address it again until 2025. it's going to be a busy week on capitol hill. thank you all for being with us today. still ahead here on "morning joe," the manhattan district attorney's office is out with new information about some of the evidence they have against former president trump. against former president trump plus, memorial day weekend is usually a big one for the box
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delay future premiers. kaylee hartung has more. >> reporter: this week, summer is in full swing for hollywood with big movie releases making a splash. on the small screen, all eyes on major finales after "succession" ended last night. just as ted lasso may end its unbelievable run, others will take their final bow. insiders warn there may not be many scripted shows in hollywood's line of succession. as the writers strike now approaches the fourth week, industry experts say negotiations between the studios and the writers guild are at a standstill and they expect the
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strike to last through the summer. a looming entertainment drought may be on the horizon. >> if there's no shows produced in the summer, they won't have shows to air in the fall. >> reporter: which will likely delay the return of hit shows like your favorite comedies, dramas and police procedurals. despite the work stoppage, the summer movie season will likely be able to stay on its feet. hollywood is weary of another speed bump ahead. both the directors and screen actors unions will reach the end of their contract at the end of
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june, meaning more picket lines if new deals aren't reached. but there is still hope hollywood will have enough time to sling back into action. meanwhile, prosecutors in the criminal case against donald trump here in new york city say their evidence includes an audio recording of the former president and a witness. according to a court filing made public friday, lawyers from manhattan d.a.'s office recently shared the evidence with trump's legal team, as is required during the discovery phase of any case. the filing does not name the witness or specify what the conversation was about. trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in connection with a hush money payment he allegedly made to adult film actress stormy daniels back in 2016 to keep her silent about an affair she claims they had a decade earlier.
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the trial is scheduled to begin in march of 2024. nbc news has reached out to trump's attorneys for comment. let's bring in former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade. let's get your take on this. we don't know a lot as to what this audio recording may be, but what sort of impact could hearing his voice on tape have? >> a recording is really some of the best evidence a prosecution team could ever wish for. we don't know who the witness is. it could very well be michael cohen, who has released a tape in the past of his conversation with donald trump. regardless, it's very powerful evidence, because when you have a live witness recounting a prior conversation, they can be impeached on cross examination on bias or misremembering or they heard what they wanted to hear.
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it may be they didn't understand the gist of what was being said. when you have a recording, the jury gets to hear the words themselves. that can be very persuasive evidence. >> it's also just a drip, drip, drip of legal woes facing the former president. special counsel jack smith may be wrapping up his mar-a-lago investigation sooner than later and the folks in fulton county suggesting keep your eye on mid to late summer for action. barbara, you've written a new piece for nbc news. tell us about it. >> i was talking about the letter that trump's team sent to merrick garland last week asking for a meeting. this to me reveals nothing but fear and a thought that indictment is imminent. they know merrick garland isn't going to meet with them. he has deferred this case to special counsel jack smith. any meeting is properly addressed to him. and it was posted on the
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internet. clearly a public outcry. the content is about hunter biden and joe biden and the unfairness of it all. it seems like a preemptive strike to try to control the narrative with the belief that an indictment in the mar-a-lago case is coming very soon. >> that letter can be found on msnbc.com. thank you for joining us. up next, is the debt ceiling deal a win for the white house? president biden's communication director joins us live when we come back. communication director joins us live when we come back. - you like that bone? i got a great price on it. - did you see my tail when that chewy box showed up? - oh, i saw it. - my tail goes bonkers for treats at great prices. sorry about the vase. - [announcer] save more on what they love with everyday great prices at chewy. if we want a more viable future for our kids,
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mccarthy and republicans on the debt ceiling is white house communications director ben labolt. ben, thanks for being with us this morning. as we've been discussing, this agreement is just part of the battle. now it has to get passed. we know top white house aides have been working the phones, lobbying lawmakers to vote for this deal. do you feel confident that you're going to have the votes to get this done? >> look, the president has been working with leaders of both chambers of both parties to make sure this is an agreement that could pass both the house and senate with support from republicans and democrats. by nature, it's a bipartisan compromise. the most important thing it does is take default off the table. we can absolutely not allow the government to default on its debts, which would have catastrophic implications for
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the american people, 8 million jobs lost, tip us into recession. we can't allow that to happen. it's got something for both parties in it. not every party got everything that it wanted. we've been focusing our outreach at this point on the democrats. we've seen some supportive signs from the new democrats, about 100 center left members in the house. other members are just receiving the text overnight. we're hopeful, because this protects all of the economic gains of this administration, the 12.7 million jobs created and averts default that they will end up supporting the agreement. >> so we talked about how
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number of crimes, federal crimes in his relationship with a wealthy austin investor. according to them, the attorney general was taking steps to benefit that investor, who was under investigation himself by the fbi at that time. they subsequently filed a lawsuit, a whistleblower lawsuit. that suit has been winding its way through the court over the past couple of years. but what really triggered this momentum for impeachment over the past week is that a house investigating committee has been examining whether or not lawmakers should pay a $3.3 million settlement paxton reached with those whistleblowers earlier this year. they determined that they needed to look at all of the information, all of the evidence in this case, and once they did that, they brought forward those 20 articles of impeachment.
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>> it's a stunning turn of events. paxton was seen as a real rising star among republicans for quite some time. walk us through what we should expect next. as you talk to lawmakers in austin, do we anticipate that the state senate will find him guilty and move to remove him from office? >> that's sort of a moving conversation at this point. certainly going into the house vote, i think the consensus was or at least a growing consensus was that the house would vote to impeach, but that once this item moved to the senate, that it was less certain that the senate would, in fact, do that. but strikingly, we saw overwhelming support in the house on both sides of the political aisle with 60 republican senators voting in favor of impeachment.
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so i think within the senate, seeing this strong support in the other chamber has sort of caused a recalibration about what might happen in the senate. it's important to note that the lieutenant governor, who will preside over this hearing in the senate, this impeachment process in the senate, has said very little with regard to logistics about how and when this will unfold in the senate. >> we'll certainly be keeping an eye on it once that trial is set. thank you so much for joining us this morning. really interesting stuff. up next on "morning joe," we'll have a fresh look at the legendary journalist whose dispatches from combat zones shaped america's understanding of the war. this morning edition of "morning
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joe." he's been called one of america's most famous and most loved american war correspondents. journalist ernie pile was twice the age of most soldiers he wrote about while embedded with them on the front lines during world war ii in some of the war's worst places including normandy, north africa and points of the pacific. his articles brought the war home to american readers with his stories running in hundreds of newspapers. his dedication to documenting american soldiers in the battlefield led him to repeatedly risk his life and ultimately lose it. pyle's courageous story is now the subject of a new book titled "the soldier's truth, ernie pile and the story of world war ii." joining us, executive director of the public policy writing workshop at the university of
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chicago's harris school of public policy, david christian son. david, remind the viewers if you will a little more as to who ernie pyle truly was and the influence he had during world war ii. >> first of all, thank you for having me. second, ernie was maybe the most unlikely of war correspondents. he got his start in journalism in 1923 and he started in indiana and moved to washington, d.c. he worked his way up through the newspaper. really where he started to kind of figure out his style of storytelling is when he started one of the first columns about aviation, the early days of aviation in the 1920s and '30s. after that he became a roving correspondent for about seven years and traveled all across the country, crisscrossed the country 35 times, put on hundreds of thousands of whiels. wrote hundreds of thousands of
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words. his style of writing, the way he described it, he wrote letters home. he went to places that other people couldn't travel and he wrote those letters so that people could sort of understand lives that were different from their own. so when the war started, he had this idea that he would go overseas and he would kind of be a travel writer for a few months and then maybe move on from the front lines to maybe india or china and kind of keep that travel column going. once he got to north africa, his writing really started to connect with readers back home, and newspapers started syndicating his column. eventually his column was running in about 500 newspapers, both dale by and weekly newspapers. at the height of his career he had 14 million readers. he wrote a daily column. the reach he had and the impact he had is really unprecedented. nobody can claim those numbers
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today even. so what made him special was that he really put a human face on the war, where we had millions of troops serving overseas. it was really, really difficult for the average reader to picture and understand what was going on. ernie tried to paint that picture for them. >> david, tell us a little bit, a couple of sort of surprising things you learned as you put together this book and really dug into his life that now readers who may have heard the name ernie pyle but don't quite understand his importance, what would surprise and touch them from what you found? >> well, there are a couple of moments in his career overseas that really touched me as i was doing the research, and i retraced his steps through the war starting in north africa and then moved to sicily, italy, france, the pacific. there's this moment when he's in sicily where he had gotten sick. the doctors called it
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battlefield fever. he basically was suffering from exhaustion, lack of sleep, just being on the front lines too long. he was in this tent camp, medical tent and he's recuperating. all of a sudden one day a couple of stretcher bearers bring in a man who he later finds out his name was john, and john was really on his last breaths. a chaplain came in and read him his last rights. ernie is watching this happen in realtime. he wrote a column afterwards where he said i just felt like i needed to get down on the ground and hold his hand and just be with him in his last moments on this earth, but he doesn't. he stops himself. he's afraid it's not proper, not appropriate. he later says that that was one of the greatest regrets of his life, was that he wasn't there for that soldier. i think that was the moment for him where he really went from,
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i'm here as a correspondent and i'm writing what i observe to i'm here and i'm in it, and this is what i'm supposed to be doing. i'm supposed to be telling these stories. he did this incredible work, but it took an incredible toll on himself and on his family. >> an extraordinary moment. ernie pyle who set the template for war correspondents going forward who play such important roles, telling the stories of conflicts up to this present day. we should note he was killed which a japanese sniper in april of 1985, a few months before the war ended. the book goes on sale tomorrow. david chrisinger, thank you for joining us today. that does it for us on this memorial day. joe, mika and willie join metro at 6:00 a.m. you can join me at