the show has gone in publicly saying i'm against it, republicans, some democrats say they're hesitant to support it. >> the belief is it will. republican leadership is doing a count. we've heard this morning they've got enough votes to get this through. a bunch of democrats will as well, including that centrist group that's so important. it will be close. there's room for both extremes to make their political points. there will be a couple of thorny days in the senate, but the sense is it will get to the president's desk. >> we had chris murphy on earlier. we asked him about the senate, there are some people who have some reservations on it, but it will be voted up by the end of the week averting we hope a crisis for the county. that does it for us this morning, ana cabrera pickings up -- picks up the coverage right now. hello, it's great to have

you with us, it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york, and a lot of news to cover this hour including a major house vote on the debt deal set to happen today, right now kevin mccarthy is trying to hold back a republican revolt. dozens of gop members have come out against this bill. progressive democrats aren't happy either. the whip of the progressive caucus will join us live. and breaking 2024 news this morning, a familiar name is getting ready to enter the race, chris christie hoping to be a disrupter to the trump desantis dynamic. plus, a dangerous moment high in the sky when a chinese pilot flies just a few hundred feet away from a u.s. surveillance plane. tensions between the two nations threatening to boil over. and later, at least five people are still unaccounted for after that iowa apartment building collapsed with two of them thought to be buried beneath the rubble. >> with we're all heartbroken.

we're all confused. we're all looking for answers, and to be lied to, to be given the run-around, to be told the value of life isn't great enough for search and rescue, no. >> anger boiling over on the streets as community members demand to know why the city almost went forward with demolition plans. let's begin with that crucial house vote expected today as the nation inches closer toward that monday default deaddeadline. joining us now ali vitali and nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli. as the house gets ready to vote, we have news on how the chair of the progressive caucus plans to vote. what are you learning? >> reporter: yeah, ana, it's notable to hear this now from chairwoman pramila jayapal who has expressed over the course of these negotiation concern over the fact that democrats were even having to negotiate to raise the debt ceiling at all,

that concern translating, it seems, into a no vote on this package, what she told me as she was heading into this democratic caucus meeting behind me was that she is likely a no on this package and that she expects that several of the other members within her progressive caucus are also going to be noes. for jayapal, she explained it to me as a way for the progressive side of this caucus to have credibility with the progressive wing of the democratic party saying in her mind this is not her deal and calling the negotiated deal something from the center right or right wing. still, when i talked to her about the mood, people coming in and out of this meeting today as they huddle with top white house officials who helped to broker this deal, i asked her why it felt so somber. listen to what she told me. >> it females somber around here. >> it does feel somber because i think people feel like this never should have been the case in the first place. the republicans they are extreme. they, you know, should have

passed the debt ceiling without all of this. this negotiation could have happened later, and i think we do feel like we're being held he or she -- hostage. >> we're seal people from both sides of the political seesaw. we have more than 30 house republicans saying they don't to want vote for this deal. and then on the other side of this, we're watching house progressives come out and say they don't want to vote for this. what it leaves, though, is a pretty hefty piece of the middle, the moderate wings of both parties. that's where this deal will ultimately be passed if it is passed. several members were walking out of the meeting saying they need to hear from the white house on various things. other parts of the caucus will meet today. the progressive black caucus will also be having a meeting. they're going to be crucial to see how they vote. both sides actively whipping their members here as the vote comes just a few hours from now

later tonight. >> just quickly if you will, on the active revolt on the right, how serious is this talk from some far right republicans to maybe try and oust kevin mccarthy from the speakership. >> reporter: look, it kind of depends who you ask you at this point. there are some members from the freedom caucus who say it's an inevitable conversation. we're seeing people come out of this meeting on the democratic side, they're ignoring what's happening on the freedom caucus. this is the thing all of us were really looking at. many of us didn't expect that freedom caucus members would get on board and vote for this deal. we were watching to see if mccarthy's negotiation would trigger that one person motion to vacate. we always knew the deals he made would have to come home to roost at some point. this is the battle we were looking for them to come home to roost on. a lot of people looking to get through the debt moment, and

then we'll like ahead if there's any kind of motion to vacate. >> mike, how concerned is the president about losing support of democrats on this deal that he personally helped broker? >> reporter: what i think this really all boils down to in terms of the white house argument to democrats, it comes down to two words, which is divided government. when ali and were covering efforts to pass the biggest parts of the president's agenda, with those super narrow majorities in the house is and senate, they needed near yun anymore my to get those signature contracts through. with republicans controlling the speakership in the house having that majority, it requires some compromise. the white house has been making these arguments both in individual calls with rank and file democrats, with group discussions with senior white house officials that they have done the best job they can to prevent republican efforts to

chip away at some of those big progressive wins, whether it's on climate, health care, taxes and the like. the big pill to swallow are these changes to programs like food stamps, snap benefits. what the white house is arguing there have been some eligible changes that will be more restrictive overall, but if you look at ways they were able to negotiate waivers for those, for the veterans, the homeless, you end up with a net zero in terms of who ends up losing these benefits. it's important to note as ali makes clear with the progressives and the most conservatives on each sides against this deal, this comes down to the moderates and we've seen today the problem solvers caucus representing more than 60 both republicans and democrats, also the leader of the new democratic coalition, a center left block in the democratic caucus endorsing this deal, and that's where the votes ultimately will come to pass this. >> okay, we'll be watching, countdown is on until that vote in the house today. mike memoli, ali vitali. thank you both.

for more on this, we are joined by democratic congressman greg cassar from texas, who serves as whip for the progressive caucus. we just learned that the chair of your caucus is a no on this bill. i know you were leaning no. where are you right now? how will you vote when the bill reaches the house floor? >> thank you, first of all, so much for having me on and i alongside the chair are not planning on voting for this deal, and let me tell you why because it isn't a deal. it's a ransom payment. with all due respect to the reporter that was just here before me who said this can be described in two words as divided government, i think that's a misframing of what's going on this. this can be described in two words, and it is hostage situation. we have been under divided government many times, but this is the first time we're up to the very last day right now you have members of one of the two parties, the republican party advocating for default. you have every single democrat

united against default, and so what you're going to see is this bill will pass, we will avoid default. it will be thanks to the unity of democrats pushing against default, and there will be progressives including myself who continue to hold the line against these sorts of hostage situations and the damaging parts of this bill. >> what is the count as far as noes and yeses? >> the final whip counts aren't released unless there's a decision from our members, but what you can expect is there will be some democrats that vote yes on this deal and some democrats that vote no, but there's actually quite a bit of democratic unity. i just stepped out of the democratic caucus meeting because there are two goals here, one stop catastrophic default that is being pushed by the most extreme right parts of the freedom caucus like lauren boebert. that's step one. and step two, try to lessen the harm to working families because

we know that mccarthy's bottom line, what it was in this deal at the end of the day, it wasn't about the deficit. what he pushed for at the end of the day was cutting irs programs that go after billionaire tax cheats and his big corporate contributors. the congressional budget office just said that increases the deficit. but at the end of the day, that's what's part of this deal. that's part of what he was able to extract. i appreciate that the president reduced the ransom payments as much as possible, but let's not kid ourselves. it's a ransom payment. >> you say that there's unity on the democratic side. however, you are not united with the president, the leader of your party wants to go with this particular bill, and you bring up the impact on working americans, many in your caucus have expressed concern about changes for the work requirements for people to get assistance like food stamps. you also mentioned the congressional budget office. i know you're familiar with what they wrote here. it said on average per month

78,000 people would actually gain benefits like food stamps. does that address your concern? does that not sound like a positive here? >> let me take both of those questions in turn. first, let me talk about the food stamps issue. what kevin mccarthy went and pushed for and held the entire american economy for ransom over, let's be clear, this isn't just a government shutdown, which would have been a bad thing. this was millions of people losing their jobs, people at home potentially losing all their savings. what he threatened all of that over was kicking some 53 and 54-year-olds off of food stamps and then the president negotiating to get some veterans and folks experiencing homelessness on to slightly balance it out. i mean, how ludicrous is that? the food stamps program for folks watching at home provides people $2 per meal to make sure they're not hungry. what the republicans went and did is said let's take those $2 per meal away from 50 and 54-year-olds. that's why we have to avoid a

default crisis, which i think we'll get done tonight. that's what everybody's expectation is, but we also have to draw the line and say that's not okay. we can't do that ever again where we're holding the entire american economy for hostage because republicans want to kick a few people off of food stamps while they pad the pockets of their billion donors. >> you keep on using that word, being held hhostage, and yet, republicans are saying quite the opposite. take a listen to what republican congressman bob good told my colleague peter alexander. >> well, democrats are being told to suppress their enthusiasm for the bill behind the scenes. they don't want it to look too much, to be too evident it's a democratic bill. feigning some concern. it's essentially a democrat bill with everything they wanteds which is a debt ceiling increase. >> what's your response to that? >> matt gaetz said himself, he said i don't want to negotiate with my hostage.

donald trump said do a default. for them to say that what the democrats want is a debt ceiling increase is frankly unpatriotic. it's immoral, and it's dangerous because every single congress for generations has come together in a bipartisan way and said america can pay its bills. and what congressman good just said is democrats are getting what they want by making sure millions of people don't lose their jobs. that is absurd. we need to be back at a place where we have a country where both parties agree that america won't default and we won't harm people for political purposes. >> really appreciate it. >> thank you very much. now to an unnecessarily aggressive maneuver, that's how the u.s. military is describing a jarring encounter between a chinese fighter jet and an american reconnaissance plane. the department of defense releasing this video showing that chinese j-16 cutting right in front of the u.s. aircraft forcing it to then fly into turbulence.

now, we're learning this happened saturday. this was over the south china sea. the pentagon says the american plane was conducting, routine operations in international air space. nbc news foreign correspondent janis mackey frayer is following the developments from beijing for us. how is the chinese government responding and how is this now impacting already tense relations between the u.s. and china? >> well, china's ministry of foreign affairs today was saying that it's the u.s. that's being provocative, that having a u.s. spy plane flying in the region is a violation of china's sovereignty and that they're going to continue to safeguard that sovereignty. a military spokesperson adding this evening speaking from the southern theater saying the pla navy was holding routine training at the time, and that the u.s. plane, quote, deliberately intruded. there is little question, though, this chinese jet flew very close to that u.s.

surveillance aircraft. aggressive is how u.s. officials were describing it, that maneuver that saw the chinese jet veer across the sky causing turbulence for the u.s. aircraft. this kind of intercept isn't uncommon. it's happened before. there was one back in december where the jet -- the chinese jet came within ten feet of an american craft, and then again in february, i was on board the plane when there was a chinese jet about 500 feet off the wing and it trailed us for about an hour and at a distance that was so close we could see the pilots. this sort of behavior that we saw in the video, the pentagon says it's just unnecessary and it's dangerous. they warned that this is the sort of behavior that can cause an accident. u.s./china relations already at

a unique low, and this certainly isn't helping matters much. >> thank you for that reporting, we're just getting word secretary of state antony blinken did address this in sweden calling it a dangerous action by the chinese pilot here. breaking 2024 news, chris christie to announce a run for the presidency. plus, tragedy in south carolina, a teenage fatally shot by a store owner who wrongly accused him of shoplifting. the sheriff who called this case senseless will join us live. also ahead, rise of the machines, the new warning about artificial intelligence from the industry leaders who created it. and later, air new zealand's controversial plan to weigh passengers before they board. you're watching "ana cabrera reports." we're back in just one minute. reports. we're back in just one minute. the game changing new plan that lets her pick exactly what she wants, and save on every perk. sadie's getting her plan ready for a big trip.

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we're back with breaking 2024 news this morning, another republican entering the presidential race. nbc news can confirm that former new jersey governor chris christie will announce a bid for the white house on tuesday. this as the two leading republican contenders currently former president donald trump and florida governor ron desantis both converge on a critical caucus state of iowa today. yesterday desantis hit back at trump for criticizing his legal standoff with disney. >> former president trump initially bashed you for taking on this fight with disney. he recently, though, changed his tune calling the company woke and criticiing you for not taking it on soon enough. how do you respond to the dual criticism, and what do you make of that pivot? >> it's very bizarre. i can tell you we were leading the way on parents rights in education. >> that was an exchange with our own dasha burns. let's bring in kevin madden,

former senior adviser for mitt romney's 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns and max rose, former democratic congressman from new york. kevin, let's start with this breaking 2024 news. can chris christie change the dynamics of this race? well, that remains to be seen. i think one of the challenges that chris christie is going to have is what's his theory of where his constituency is inside the republican party. if you remember he ran in 2016 and finished sixth in new hampshire after really sort of staking his entire candidacy on that state. so he didn't find a constituency in new hampshire, i'm not sure he's going to find one in iowa. where does chris christie win? one of the other problems and challenges he's going to face is folks from the trump wing of the party are going to be very critical and skeptical of him given that he's now decided to become a top critic of former president trump, and then i think many of those in the sort of never trump wing of the

party, those who are skeptical of donald trump's leadership of the party, remember that he was a very big supporter of donald trump. so where he fits into the sort of landscape of all the other candidates that are trying to sort of wrestle the nomination from the front runner, donald trump, it's really hard to tell just yet. i think when he gets in, he's going to have to make a case for that. >> he has a tough row to hoe or a tall mountain to climb. chris christie only has a 21% favorability rating right now. 47% think of him unfavorably. do you see him being able to overcome that? >> no, no, that's not a great place to start and i'm not certain that chris christie is exactly in this to win rather than just being in this to be in this, but let's take a step back and look at the state of this republican party.

you know, from a normal person's vantage point, right, you wouldn't think that going after elsa and ariel really qualifies you to take on putin, and in fact, it seems that disney is eating desantis's lunch and trump's lunch. but the fact that they are both the two principal contenders for the nomination, both are looking nearly identical right now, just, you know, one more xenophobic than the other, it shows that the true state of the republican party is maga. there are not two dual parties here. there's not two wings. there is just maga and extreme maga and you see that clearly playing out in the polls with people like christie purporting to be moderates, purporting to be part of the normal wing of the republican party getting hardly any support in the actual data. >> as he talks about it sounding a lot like make america great again, what we're hearing from desantis specifically in iowa, i

do want to play a clip from one of his campaign stops yesterday, kevin, and get your thoughts on the back side. let's listen to this. this is from outside des moines at a church event that he was at. >> we must choose a new direction for our country. we must choose a path that will lead to a revival of american greatness. >> it does sound a lot like make america great again, doesn't it? and could desantis successfully run using trump's play book? >> it does sound a lot like that. that is the populism thread, the return america to its great former status is a sentiment that i think is widely held, widely shared by so many of the base voters, the ones who really show up at the caucuses at iowa and show up at primaries at new hampshire and south carolina and florida, all those early contests. so i think desantis is trying to position himself with those trump supporters who may feel

that the president is not necessarily the best person to -- the former president is not necessarily the best person to take the party into the future against a rematch against former -- up against president biden. so he's trying to sort of do a little bit of a trump light message while at the same time trying to distinguish himself with a record of accomplishment, a record of achievement in his home state of florida. i think that is the sort of dual message that they're trying to thread right now with so many of these early primary voters. >> again, we have both trump and desantis in iowa right now. we played that clip of desantis. we heard from him what he told our dasha burns at the top of the show here. with all of that in mind, i have to know, where you're starting to see a pivot from trump specifically on disney seems to have adopted more of a desantis position, and now trump's also trying to sort of flip the script on desantis when it comes to covid. a trump spokesman saying in a

statement today, quote, president trump saved millions of lives, opposed mandates and embraced the federalist system to allow states to make the best decisions for their people. ron desanctimonious continues to lie about his covid record as he imposed radical lockdowns, personally oversaw mass vaccinations, took delivery of the first vaccines in america and boasted about being at the white house to discuss openings warp speed. i'm starting to wonder is trump playing more defense or offense here? >> it's really amazing to see. i would not have thought that donald trump would be on his heels to this degree. and this is also fascinating to look at this from the context of the biden campaign in waiting. there was a point several months ago where from the perspective of the democratic presidential campaign, there was almost a sense, okay, we have to prepare for donald trump and then have a separate effort, a separate initiative in the event that someone else most likely

desantis wins. well, that clearly is not the the case here. they are now competing as to who killed more people during the height of the pandemic. they are now competing as to who hates the lgbtq community more. they are now competing as to who will actually wage war on the private sector more and the reason for this is because the base of the republican primary is the most extreme political base that we have seen in modern political history, and what they do not realize at this point, i believe, is that they are rendering themselves unelectable in a general election camcampai. we will see the bye campaign look the same, identical, irrespective of whether it is desantis or trump. one is just as extreme as the other. >> thank you both.

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unaccounted for after an apartment building collapse in iowa. officials believe two of them might still be trapped under the rubble. it comes amid growing outcry and concern among residents about demolition plans after a woman miraculously appeared in an apartment window hours before demolition was set to begin. joining us from davenport, iowa, is nbc's shaq brewster. what are the plans to try and locate these missing people? >> reporter: well, good morning, ana, at this point we really just don't know. we've been seeing activity here at the site all morning long including the structural engineer hired by the city. we've seen him going in and out of the gate behind me, but in terms of the specific plan for the demolition, the specific plans for the search. the city has not responded. has not updated since their press conference yesterday. they did release an update last night saying they conducted a limited operation, a limited search of the building of areas that they said carried an

acceptable risk. they say no human activity was found during that search, but they did say several animals were rescued and delivered to the humane society, but the stability of this building really continues to be a major concern. they said even during that search the condition of the building continues to deteriorate. one thing that we heard in the press conference yesterday is that this building could come down anytime. they said it's been held up by that pile of debris you're looking at on your screen right now. meanwhile, there are the questions of investigations, questions about the owner, questions about the condition of the building. in the press conference yesterday city officials saying they are gathering a state team, a team of investigators to look into this. they did not rule out the possibility of criminal charges. it seems that they wanted to get the full investigatory team together to figure out those next steps there. but i'll tell you there are a lot of questions here, frustrations still here on the ground as people continue to hope for a miracle that those

two who are missing and believed to be in the site behind me that they are ultimately uncovered. >> every second counts, you can understand the emotion there. shaq brewster, thank you so much. now to south carolina where a community is on edge after a store owner allegedly shot and killed a teenager who was wrongly accused of shoplifting. rick chow is now facing a murder charge in the death of 14-year-old syrus belton. police say chow had accused the teen of shoplifting bottles of water. the local sheriff says there's no evidence he stole anything. south carolina nbc affiliate wisd reporter nick neville is live near the store in south carolina with more now. nick, walk us through what happened here. >> reporter: yes, good morning, so chow had his first court appearance yesterday, bond on that murder charge could not be set by the magistrate judge that he came before. it's going to have to be set by a circuit court judge at a later

date. representatives for the family of the victim as well as for chow declined to speak at that hearing. chow for his part also spoke very little at the hearing beyond saying yes, your honor, acknowledging that he understood the judge's questions. to recap some of the facts of the case, chow's accused of chasing cyrus out of the store sunday night, suspecting him of shoplifting and then shooting him in the book. the richland county sheriff said there's no evidence he stole anything. sheriff lot said even if he'd shifted four bottles of water, that's not something that you shoot anybody over. chow and his son chased cyrus down the street. he was armed according to rcsd. deputies recovered a gun believed to have belonged to the victim.

activists against gun violence gathered at this gas station and those peaceful protests took a turn monday night when the gas station was broken into. the entire property is now taped off. sheriff lot appearing exasperated in a news conference yesterday saying that vandalizing the property and stealing beer has nothing to do with the murder of this 14-year-old boy. let's take a listen to sheriff lot. >> that store did not shoot that 14-year-old. the person responsible has been arrested. he's in jail. he's in jail. exactly where he needs to be. that's where justice is being served. justice is being served by us going out and making an arrest. justice is not served by going in and stealing cases of beer. >> reporter: now, i did have the opportunity briefly to speak with members of cyrus's family

including his father. they're understandably grieving and did not wish to provide any statement to us at this time. reporting in columbia, i'm nick neville. >> nick neville from nbc affiliate wis-tv. i want to bring in the sheriff of richland county, south carolina. sheriff lott, thanks for taking the time. you called this shooting senseless. based on what you've learned so far, explain why you feel this way. >> we had a 14-year-old shot in the back. that's senseless anytime you have that. just not something that should have happened. it wasn't necessary. should have never been shot in the back. he didn't shoplift. he never pointed a gun at anybody, nobody's life was in danger except for his. to me that's very senseless. >> is the suspect talking to you? how is he justifying what happened? >> he initially talked to us that night.

after that he requested an attorney so we haven't interviewed him anymore. he said we chased him. my son said he had a gun, i took aim. i shot him. it was pretty simple by him, explanation, but he never said the gun was pointed at him or his son. e never said he was in danger. his son's life was in danger, that's the standard you have to have to use deadly force. the same standards we have as police officers, for civilians the same thing. it didn't exist. that's why he was charged with murder. >> i understand investigators in your office determined this was not a bias motivated shooting. we know carmac belton is black. chow is an asian man. how did your investigation come to that conclusion so quickly? >> we don't think race played a part in it whatsoever. this was someone that accused someone of shoplifting, he gave chase to him and he shot him. i don't think race played a part. i think this store owner just

felt like he could take justice into his own hands and now he's got to face justice for it. >> do you think people are just too trigger happy, that that's the solution to problems, pull out a gun? >> yeah, we've got too many guns. too many people who think they can solve issues with guns, and a gun's going to get you either in the cemetery or in prison. that's what we're seeing in this case here. it wasn't necessary to shoot a 14-year-old. even if he had shifted, it is not necessary to shoot him particularly in the back. >> richland county, south carolina, sheriff, leon lott, thank you for joining us and offering more context. we'll continue to follow. up next here on "ana cabrera reports" one-time silicon valley darling elizabeth holmes begins her new life behind bars. and on trial, jurors hearing 911 call made as the deadly tree

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this morning the trial continues in the deadliest anti-semitic attack in u.s. history. the 2018 tree of life synagogue shooting which left 11 people dead. jurors have heard chilling excerpts from a 911 call where you can hear shots being fired and one victim saying she is scared to death. the accused killer robert bowers is facing the death penalty. yesterday his lawyers admitted he is responsible for the massacre. joining us now is nbc news correspondent kathy park and msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. kathy, tell us more about what the jurors are hearing? >> reporter: hey, ana, good morning to you. so we are entering day two of this trial, it's supposed to be roughly three weeks for phase one of this trial determining his guilt followed by the sentencing, which is supposed to

last roughly six weeks, and right now we are hearing from one of the survivors of the shooting from back in october of 2018, but this all comes on the heels of a very harrowing and difficult and emotional day yesterday as some of the family members had to hear these chilling details from that mass shooting. you mentioned those 911 calls that were played out. there was one call that was initially made by one of the victims, she called saying that her husband was bleeding out right next to her, and shortly after that the phone dies. you don't hear anything, but it was quickly followed by gunfire and screams and ultimately we found out that she died along with her husband in the same synagogue that she got married in 60 years ago. another chilling 911 call that we heard from was the rabbi of tree of life, and he survived the shooting but he was hiding

inside a bathroom, and there was one point when the phone also goes silent and when pressed by the attorney, what was going through your mind? he said he was praying at the time because he was prepared to die at that moment. obviously an emotional day yesterday as we heard from both sides as they offered opening statements. the government, the prosecutors laid out exactly what happened that day, walk through methodically just kind of how the gunman walked through the synagogue and hunted some of the worshippers down as well. we heard from the lead defense attorney, judy clark, who was representing robert bowers and said, look, there's no doubt that my client did this, but really questioned the motive whether this was a rational motive or his misguided intent. and obviously this is something we'll be watching closely as we enter day two of this trial. >> thanks for those details. the prosecution has decided to focus on the graphic details,

his anti-semitic beliefs, and in fact, they told the jury that bowers told police after the attack, quote, those people are committing genocide on my people, and i just want to kill jews. that is obviously incredibly disturbing, but bowers defense is essentially that he acted on irrational motive. what do you make of that? what does that even mean? >> they're trying to distinguish between a hate crime, which would be an aggravating factor for which the death penalty would make this crime death eligible, and some form of misguided irrational belief that he needed to kill jews because by enabling immigration, the jews were sort of indirectly causing a general site of white born americans. they're really two different hates. his defense is essentially trying to say he didn't hate jews, he hated immigrants and he was hunting jews because they were facilitating immigration to

this country. morally and ethically they don't seem distinct. as far as the law is concerned, a hate crime is one that's motivated by hatred for the group you're victimizing. >> so we've discussed this really is not about did he do it. his attorneys are saying, yes, he did, but the question now is whether he will receive the death penalty, and a defense has more or less offered a deal. he'll plead guilty if he can get life in prison and avoid the death penalty. the prosecutors have not agreed to that. how significant would it be for bowers to receive the death penalty sentence? >> it would be extraordinarily significant, and one reason that it would be significant, not only would it be significant for the jewish community in pittsburgh, which experienced as you noted in your intro, the largest anti-semitic attack in history, but this is a justice department that's put a moratorium on the death penalty until they can figure out how to administer the death penalty in a way that they believe is more humane. if bowers is then sentenced to death by federal, you know,

through a federal prosecution, that would mean the department of justice is prosecuting someone for a death eligible crime. >> thank you so much for being here and talking about a tough subject obviously, but you make it easier for us to understand how the system works. fallen silicon valley star elizabeth holmes woke up this morning in a federal prison. the disgraced theranos founder surrendered in texas on tuesday starting her 11-year sentence. she was convicted of wire fraud and defrauing investors with that startup that claimed to be able to diagnose multiple disorders with just a drop of blood. up next for us on "ana cabrera reports," risk of extinction? why those tasks with creating ai are now saying it could be the end of us and what we should do it about it. to develop their tastiest bread yet. this truly makes the subway series a dream team. you know about that chuck. yeah, i was the bread of that team too.

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statement, like sam altman, like top executives at google and microsoft who seem to be on the right side of history around the robot enslavement question, but are trying to deploy ai as fast as possible. it is that dissonance that makes this so jarring. >> this comes two months after a group of different ai and tech leaders including elon musk and steve wozniak signed a petition calling for a pause on ai scale research. that was open to the public. is this a runaway train at this point? >> well, what is so interesting is that none of the -- very few of the signatories on this statement were on that pause statement. the overlap isn't that strong because people have very different feelings about this short-term regulatory regime where, you know, not in currently. the united states has very few regulations around data at all,

and no regulations around ai, while countries like the eu and china race ahead on this. the people i've been speaking to say, sure, of course, we should be thinking in the long-term about some threats here, but we should not let that distract us from the need to regulate in the short-term, questions who like who gets a job, who gets bail, and that is being determined by e! . >> what do you think is the next move? >> it is the catching upcountri regimes that is most stark. right now in china, if you're denied a job because of an ai system, you have a right to challenge that company around that. in the eu, there are very, specific risk levels laid out and regulations laid out around it. it is the lack of a regulatory regime here that has us looking to these companies for guidance on these questions and that creates a conflict of interest. that's what experts are saying. >> so interesting. and it is hard to get our arms

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imagine weighing in before you board. well, air new zealand announced a plan to have passengers step on a scale before they get on international flights. nbc's sam brock is following this story. >> reporter: despite some of the headlines you might have heard, let's talk about the reality of this program which is just in new zealand and is, a, voluntary, b, anonymous, your weight is never actually connected with you, and, c, is not new for new zealand. they have been doing this for years and they say, you know,

they weigh cargo and food and crew members, why not calculate the average weight of the passengers. this response is largely been positive, at least in new zealand. for millions of passengers taking to the skies every day, weighing luggage has become about as routine as selecting your seat, picking out a snack or choosing an in flight movie. >> surely, you can't be serious. >> i am serious and don't call me shirley. >> reporter: but soon, air new zealand passengers on international lights will also have the option to hop on the scale themselves before heading to their gate. the airline announcing a new voluntary anonymous survey that is designed to calculate the average weight of passengers over the next month. the goal, they say, is safety. >> it is a regulatory requirement for us to know the weight of everything that goes on the aircraft. and there is a good reason for that. >> reporter: industry experts say knowing how much everything weighs on board, including fuel, baggage, passengers and more, helps planes to fly more efficiently, while remaining balanced.

according to air new zealand, the scales in the airport will not display any passenger's weight and all the data will be fed directly to a computer and recorded anonymously along with thousands of other passengers. but despite all that reassurance, some americans on social media and beyond saying no scale, no way. >> oh, when will the humiliation of being weighed in public ever end. >> i think that's a violation of privacy. >> when i go to the doctor i don't even look at the scales. >> when it comes to commercial aviation safety, i want to err on the side of exact measurement, not a guesstimate. >> reporter: still, new zealand says the program has nothing to do with discrimination, and everything to do with the science of calculating how many passengers a plane can safely carry. >> it is critically important for the safety of flight that you know how much the airplane weighs. it is particularly certificated to perform at a given way at a

given weight. >> reporter: some experts say the methods and data collected by air new zealand could offer wide ranging benefits around the world. >> i think you may see some other airlines utilize this at some point in the future. >> reporter: as far as whether or not this policy or model could ever be adopted in the united states, the faa gives broad discretion to domestic airlines to decide how they want to comply with weight and balance requirements. now, generally speaking, aviation experts say they go to the medical industry here to get data on the average weight of passengers. could that change? could you seeing some like the new zealand model being applied to the united states? yes, it is possible, but right now there is no indication of that happening. in miami, sam brock, nbc news. back to you. >> thank you so much, sam brock. that does it for us today. until tomorrow, reporting from new york, i'm ana cabrera. thank you for joining us. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. and good morning. 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm jose diaz-b