1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc, and i will be hosting the show, here from d.c. for the rest of the week as we continue to follow the latest on the debt deal. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports." good to be with you, i'm katy tur. it is going to a vote. tonight at 8:30 p.m., the debt deal negotiated by president biden and speaker mccarthy will hit the floor. how many republicans will get on board in the house, and what will democrats do if gop leadership fails to secure a majority of their narrow majority in the house? in other words, if speaker mccarthy can't deliver his promise 150 republican votes, will democrats still vote yes? after all, they were not a party to this compromise. it is not their deal. dem leadership signalled today

that enough would vote yes, but are they sure? >> house democrats are going to make sure that the country does not default. period. full stop. >> this caucus will remain unified with the president and most importantly with the american people in this fight. >> house democrats stand poised to help, stand poised to be the adults in the room, and we will ensure that we put this crisis behind us. >> we have two house lawmakers starting us off today. a republican in mccarthy's inner circle and a democrat who voted no on the deal in the rules committee last night, and that right there is where we begin. joining me now is pennsylvania democratic congresswoman and members of the rules committee, mary guy scanlan, thank you for being with us. you voted no in the rules committee, will you vote yes

later tonight? >> certainly that's the function of the rules committee is to bring the bills to the floor, and it's the republicans' job to bring the bill to the floor. this is mccarthy's deal, mccarthy has the obligation to put it together, put together his caucus to bring it to the floor, so that is the next step. we had the rules committee last night. we'll have the rules vote probably within the next hour, and then it's on to the actual up or down vote on the bill. >> so it sounds like what you're saying to me is that you are going to wait to see who mccarthy produces, whether he produces 150 republican votes before you make your decision? >> i think that's the big question right now. the first step is does he have the votes to get his package to the floor. >> so how will you vote depending on that? >> well, i think there's going to be an awful lot of waiting and seeing. you know, obviously house democrats were not part of this conversation. we certainly have some strong opinions. i'm getting a lot of questions

from my district, questions as specific as whether or not a mom who's currently staying at home to take care of her child who has a brain tumor, whether she's going to be subject to these work requirements on s.n.a.p. because that's what's keeping her family afloat? >> why would she be required to work if she has a disability and that sort of scenario. >> she doesn't have the disability, her child does, so the question is whether or not the changes that have been made that would include adults who are 49 to 54, whether that's going to impact their family, so we are still kind of parsing out exactly what all the changes mean, and have to be able to explain the vote one way or the other to our constituents, relevant to their concerns. >> i'm just trying to get your position on this. help me understand what's going to help you decide. is it if a woman like this that you just mentioned with the child who has the disability, if she is forced to work, does that mean you would be a no on this

bill? >> i think i am where i want to say speaker, but i'm anticipating a little bit where leader jeffries is, which is that democrats are not going to let this package go down but it is on the republicans to bring it forward. >> got it. how do you feel about the contours of this compromise? i know the republicans' position, it's their job to get it to the floor, as you indicated a moment ago. how do you feel about the basic contours, and the job that the president did in negotiating? >> well, the basic contours of this are that this is a mess that the republicans got us into, holding our entire economy hostage. holding people's retirement accounts and livelihoods hostage, so that they could pull back on really good policy that we were able to enact over the last couple of years. when they don't have the votes to enact those policy points by themselves, so they basically held the global economy hostage

so they could extort benefits that they would never be able to get through regular order. what it says to me is that we need to move as quickly as possible to eliminate the debt ceiling as a bargaining point. we are one of only two countries in the world. denmark being the other one that has a debt ceiling like this that can be used as a hostage taking exercise, so it's reinforced for me the importance that we eliminate this as a hostage taking point as soon as possible. >> how do you want to eliminate it? is it by passing a bill that makes the debt deal negotiation infinity plus years from now or is it by the president passing or trying to use the 14th amendment? >> you know, i have not been a fan of the 14th amendment argument because since it's never been used in in way, it has -- it would inject additional uncertainty, and that's the whole problem with using the debt ceiling as a hostage negotiation exercise.

but to the extent that the debt ceiling is something that was produced by statute, there are a couple of bills out there and i've actually -- i'm working with my staff to see which is the best one, and which is entirely different. there are bills out there that need to be moved forward and we look at supporting them going forward. >> shalanda young said in regard to the work requirement, it's basic a wash. the new people now qualifying for work requirements under this deal will wash out those who will fall off the requirements. the cbo says that it will actually end up spending more money on people who are eligible for s.n.a.p. benefits, more money for s.n.a.p. benefits than what was currently in place before this. >> i mean, that information is certainly reassuring. i mean, obviously it's not going to be great for the people who are washed out. it will be a good thing for those who get included, and

that's been information that's just really developed in the last 12 to 16 hours is what the actual impact is going to be, so that's something we have been looking at closely. >> congresswoman mary gay scanlon of pennsylvania, thank you very much, we appreciate it. >> thank you. and joining me is south dakota republican congressman and chair of the mainstream caucus k dusty johnson. let me ask you, are you confident that speaker mccarthy has 150 republican votes for this deal? >> i don't know that that magic number came from. hakeem jeffries mentioned it. it's not what kevin mccarthy has admitted to publicly. the votes will be there. this is going to pass out of the house. mary gay scanlon, i get a little irritated when we have this fear mongering, whether or not mothers at home taking care of sick kids have work requirements imposed on them. it has been the law of the land

since 1996 that people with dependents at home do not have the work requirements applied to them. that doesn't change with this bill. she knows it doesn't change with this bill. we're trying to scare americans with some of these policies, and i think it's just better to be honest that it's not going to put that woman into the work force if she doesn't want to be working. secondly, i thought it interesting that the democrats won't tell us how they're going to vote. they're going to wait to see what the republicans do. come on, gang, let's figure out if a bill moves america in the right direction and vote for it, as opposed to this game of cat and house, hide and seek, we're better than that. >> what about the republicans who are saying they don't like this deal. there are a number of them, and many on the freedom caucus, including chip roy who has been pretty vocal saying this is a bad, bad deal. what do you say to them? >> we have a lot of diversity of opinion in the republican caucus, there's no question about that, but the overwhelming majority of republicans in the house are going to end up voting for this thing. two or three times more will

vote for it than against it. i get it, we give the no voices, they're allowed, we give them a pretty big megaphone from time to time, but there are reasons we're supporting this thing, it cuts $2 trillion in spending, the largest spending cut, it puts americans back to work, unlocks american energy, and peels back $29 billion of covid funds that are no longer needed. these are big wins for america. >> part of the reason we're giving the no voices so much time right now is because the no voices in the republican conference are very powerful, especially when the margins are this small, but most importantly because of the motion to vacate, and the deal speaker mccarthy made not only to get the speakership by putting people like chip roy on the rules committee but also allowing one person within the house to raise their hand and say i want a new speaker, and there's been that flirtation with some republicans in the past 24, 48 hours about calling for a motion to vacate.

are you confident that one will not be called? >> i am confident that one will not be called. >> what do you make of all of that talk? >> people say things and i get it, it's an interesting story, and so everybody runs with it. i'm not criticizing you all, but i would say that there is, as of right now, not a single member of the republican house who's pursuing a motion to vacate. a couple of people talked about it yesterday but quickly walked it back. >> why did they walk it back? did speaker mccarthy say something to them to convince them it was a bad idea? >> what happens is we get worked up, we're humans, we get worked up and we say things we're not sure is quite right, and when cooler heads prevail, i think they have realized that having another leadership battle right now would make it almost impossible for this republican team to continue to deliver conservative victories. we all get irritated with one another. this is a high tension workplace, but this republican

team is going to be stronger after this than we were before. >> let me ask you about the cbo analysis, i just mentioned it to our previous guest. there will be a net increase in spending for s.n.a.p. benefits because of the work requirement provisions that were put in place. how do you feel about that? >> well, i've analyzed the cbo numbers, and i think they made a mistake in assumption. they assumed that all of these folks who were in the new exemption categories have never been exempted before. and frankly, that's not true. a lot of people can be duel eligible. they may be veterans but may also be disabled. they may have dependents at home, they may also be seniors. they're assuming all of these policy changes bring entirely new bodies. that is not going to be the case. but listen, let's assume the cbo was right. many republicans like myself have said the work requirement

policies are not about saving a buck, they're about moving people out of poverty, work requirements are proven to do that and growing the american policy. i think they will be smart economic policy long-term. i don't mind if we spend a few more dollars on making sure that somebody who is transitionings -- transitioning out of foster care to have more time to find a job. >> if you have not made an endorsement for 2024, i wonder if you're thinking about one. mike pence is now scheduled to get into the race according to nbc news reporting and chris christie also scheduled to get in the race. how do you feel about those two candidates? >> i'm not really interested in endorsing anybody. that's been kind of a long standing view on my part. i'm never sure politicians endorsing politicians makes even a tiny hill of beans to most american voters. and i don't know who i would vote for. i'm going to watch the primaries play out.

i think primaries should be robust discussions about the future of the party. i don't know who i'm going to vote for. if i did, i wouldn't be making a public endorsement. >> congressman, dusty johnson, thank you, we appreciate it. that is the view from the house. what about the senate, how many democrats and republicans have already come out to say no. plus, ai scientists sign a letter warning that technology poses a quote, risk of extinction. how exactly, is it killing robots, poisoning our water supply somehow? we are going to ask an ai pioneer who signed the letter warning us all what exactly the risk of extinction means. and next week is shaping up to be a busy one on the campaign trail. we just mentioned it, two familiar faces, jumping into the 2024 race two very different strategies. we are back in 60 seconds. difft strategies we are back in 60 seconds. permission to dig in? granted. breyers carbsmart is so rich, so creamy,

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let's straighten out all that spin. joining me now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent, ryan nobles, and punch bowl news founder, and political contributor, jake sherman. talk to me about the democrats. >> reporter: yeah, i think the reality is democrats are going to vote for in rule to get this bill to the floor no matter what. this is a deal that the president cut. democrats are going to be expected to support it. ms. scanlon is right in the previous segment. usually it's the majority party that does carry a rule across the finish line. the basic reality is democrats kind of understand that they need to help the president here, and i think this bill gets to the floor. i think the democrats might make the gop sweat. at the end of the day, democrats are going to help republicans get this bill to the floor, and they're going to help put it across the finish line. >> let's talk about the senate. we have heard from a number of senators, ryan, about their feelings toward the bill. where does it stand in the upper chamber? >> reporter: well, i just got

out of a press conference with chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell, where both democratic and republican leaders expressed optimism that the bill would pass to get ahead of the deadline. make no mistake, there are going to be notable nails that vote no, among them, the vermont senator, bernie sanders put out a statement saying that he can not in good conscience vote yes on this will. we have seen a smattering of republicans voice concerns about the bill as well. take a listen to some of those voices. >> i don't want to become the party of joe biden's defense budget, so i'll oppose it. it's at least $50 billion short just to maintain inflation. >> i'm going to be a no on this. the reason is i don't think it does anything to address our massive structural trade deficit, with multiple foreign nations but particularly with china. >> he's been in the senate for five minutes, realized one senator can stop the train. 99 senators have to wait. i hope any colleagues on both sides of the aisle will be mindful of the fact that we need

to do this for the good of our economy and the good of our country. >> reporter: and so that was dick durbin that you heard from there at the end, who's responsible for marshaling democratic votes, and part of this process on the senate side is going to be the speed at which they're able to get this done as durbin rightly points out, just one senator can slow the process down in the senate to a glacial pace. it sound like chuck schumer is going to work with those that are having concerns about the bill. give them the opportunity to vote on amendments that will likely fail to speed the process up so they can get it done by the deadline on monday. mitch mcconnell seemed optimistic the vote in the senate could happen thursday or friday. it's something they seem hopeful about. >> you mentioned that the majority leader is going to be talking to members about concerns they might have about this bill trying to talk him through it. anyone hearing directly from president biden that you know of, ryan? >> so we know that the white house has made specific, you know, outreach through their

emissaries, having to do with shalanda young and steve and others. they were up on the hill, i believe, this morning for an in-person briefing with house democratic leaders. we haven't heard about specific outreach from the president himself. i don't know if we're in that territory yet where he needs to make the outreach himself to get people over the finish line. both sides feel comfortable about the margins. if they start to do their whip counts and there's a sense they could be in some level of trouble, in the senate it requires 60 votes, not just a 51 majority. perhaps then we get into that territory. right now, there isn't, you know, any smoke signals that the president has been forced to make that specific direct outreach. >> speaker mccarthy has just scheduled a 9:15 press conference, indicates he's probably confident this is going to get done by then, and get passed. jake, i asked congressman johnson about all of the rumblings about the motion to

vacation, what did ken buck say and a few others talking about, how serious is that threat, and if it's not serious in this moment, how serious is it going forward? >> it's impossible to really know, katy, because anyone could do it at any time with no threshold and no reason. the reality is if somebody has a bad day and is upset with mccarthy, they can go to the floor and call for a snap vote on his leadership, which is a difficult dynamic to deal with. i will say, though, most people don't take it terribly seriously. and mccarthy's team, mccarthy's allies believe that they can beat it back if need be, some have suggested democrats would help them. i think that's a tough thing to depend on, but all that said, it's not really dominated conversation up here. even, i will say, ralph norman, one of the loudest voices in the anti-debt limit bill said you guys did a good job negotiating,

probably better than i could do and he'll still vote against it. very few people have their hair on fire at this point. there are a lot of no votes. that's to be expected on a bill negotiated in divided government between the president and the speaker. the people whose hair is closest to on fire, this is the story we have seen all along since 2010. when republicans are in the majority and a democrat is in the white house, they come to compromises, and they don't believe that anybody should compromise. and that's a difficult thing for a speaker to contend with. >> jake sherman, thank you very much. ryan nobles, thank you as well. we'll watch for what happens at 8:30 tonight. coming up next, ai scientists warn the tech can end humanity, how exactly, and when? we'll ask a man who won an award on his work in artificial intelligence,. and an exclusive nbc report,

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it can go quite wrong, and we want to be vocal about that. >> that was open ai ceo sam altman warning against artificial intelligence. altman is the founder of chatgpt among 400 scientists, journalists and policy makers signed a letter that reads in full, quote, mitigating the risk of extinction from ai should be a global priority alongside other societal-scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war. joining me is one of the god fathers of ai, institute founder and scientific director yoshi benjio, who won a share of the turing award. thank you very much for being here with us. >> thanks for having me. >> you sign on to this letter. human extinction is terrifying,

the next question people have is how exactly, what exactly does that mean? and i'm wondering if you can give me a specific disaster scenario that could possibly happen from this ai technology getting out of hand? >> so i don't think that the current data ai would make that possible. the machines that we have are incredibly impressive, but missing things related to human intelligence, things related to reasoning, but it could be in a few years from now we'll have machines that are much smarter than us. and it's like if we were to create entities that were smarter than us, how would these entities behave towards humanity. it's very hard to tell. the fact that, you know, software and hardware is quite

easily accessible, it also means that the danger would be multiplied unlike in a case of clear weapons, for example, to, all of the people, all of the hackers around the world that could potentially access that sort of thing, and maybe, you know, because of criminal intentions or for military reasons, start something that could be very very dangerous for many people on this planet. >> just to dwell on this, because i still think it's kind of hard to wrap your mind around it, and to understand why ai scientists are so worried. when we think of ai ending humanity, we think of movies, we think of killer robots. are you thinking of that? or are you thinking of something like somebody can hack into the technology, and then launch all the nuclear bombs that are stored around the world. or is it hacking into the technology or getting into the

technology, using the technology to hack into our systems to poison our water supply? >> so all kinds of things could happen, but for the future, it's not going to be the robots of terminator-style movies because we don't have good enough robots because we don't have the quantity of data to train robots like we have huge amounts of texts which make possible these apparently quiet smart systems that understand language, and can potentially, you know, in a short horizon manipulate people. and that's dangerous for democracy, but also eventually this might be the way through which they make things happen, and then of course once they have access to the internet, you know, and cyber security vulnerabilities that they could discover, they could act in the

world, even though they don't have limbs. >> you're saying this is maybe a few years away for the technology to be good enough to do something like this? >> it's possible. so it could be a few years. it could be 50 years. right now, what we can say is that the horizon, you know, i thought it would be decades into the future, now the earliest might be a few years. you know, hopefully i'm wrong, and maybe it's still decades into the future. >> hopefully you are wrong. here's my question. i guess when people look at you guys and think, you're warning against it but also still working on it, developing it, and putting it out there, and why not pull back and say this is dangerous. also, how could you not see this coming? >> if you look at the current brand of state of ai system in chatgpt, there isn't much of a

breakthrough. it basically has the ingredients that we all knew for several years, and so it really came as a surprise when you scaled it up with much more data, much more compute, that it starts behaving, at least some aspects of the human intuition, essentially, and nobody expected that. >> okay. then why keep working on it? why keep developing it? all of these companies and ceos are saying this is dangerous, we've got to do something about it, but there is still a race to improve the technology and to get it out there faster than the other guy. >> yes, and i think the fact that there's competition between companies to do this is dangerous. it means that the ethical standards to do these things might, you know, not be taken as seriously as the issue and that's why i'm speaking up. >> is the solution for governments to regulate it? is it easy enough for

governments to regulate it and say you can only go this far? >> we regulate pretty much every sector, not, you know, you have huge regulations to deal with airplanes, and not anybody can just drag a plane, right, so we need to increase that level of control. >> let's hope so. yoshua bengio, thank you so much for coming on and helping us understand what is really hard to understand, i think, for the average person. we appreciate your time. >> you're welcome. and coming up, from running mate to gop primary opponent, mike pence is doing what we all knew he would do, and he's doing it next week. how is he going to do it. plus, chris christie is set to announce his 2024 run as well. he's called donald trump a coward and a puppet. what he says he will do differently than desantis or

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joining me now is nbc news correspondent dasha burns from des moines, iowa, and nbc news national politics reporter, jonathan allen. jonathan, you broke the pence news. why next week? what got him over the edge? >> reporter: well, he's been billing this for a long time, june 7th is when he is going to do this, next wednesday from des moines. he'll give a speech there. there will be a video preceding that speech that day. that is his birthday. other people, the beatles turning 64 of mike pence, he will be announcing a presidential campaign. >> that is a busy birthday for him. how does he plan on going at this? what's his strategy, john? >> it's a great question, katy. if you look at the polls right now, mike pence in most national polls, the highest he registered is 6%. his belief is that the state of iowa, which is often the spring board for some candidates and a graveyard for other candidates

will be the spring board for him because there is a huge evangelical contingent in iowa. he's going to campaign, folks close to him say they will campaign in 99 counties, all 99 counties in iowa, and is able to tell his story, and he will rise in the polls and be able to use iowa, again, as a spring board to raise more money, and do better in future races. >> let's talk about what is perhaps the most opposite of mike pence. you can get chris christie, and maybe donald trump would be the most obvious, but chris christie is a good one as well. christie has a different strategy for what he thinks needs to happen in order for somebody to beat donald trump, and he said that's to go right after him, and he's been doing that the past few months despite not doing that for a few years. in terms of the president, the former president, he's called him a coward. he thinks he's a puppet of putin, he said.

he said that having the january 6th choir at your rally is inappropriate for somebody who wants to be the president, again. what is our expectation, dasha, for house chris christie is going to comport himself as a presidential candidate this time around? >> i've got a feeling, katy, it's going to be a whole lot more of that. i think he's watching this increasingly crowded gop field full of candidates who are really pulling their punches when it comes to the former president. you've got haley, scott, asia hutchinson. and has started to sharpen his attacks but not full force in the way that christie has before. jumping into the race, i think he is ready to really be the guy that disrupts this kind of subtle jab here and there, and actually take the president, the former president head on here. >> chris christie does not have

good favorability polling, at least not right now. we'll put it up on the screen. this is a recent monmouth poll. among republicans, the opinion of gop leaders, 21% find chris christie favorable. 47% find him unfavorable. when you look at the whole field of candidates and possible candidates, he's the worst in terms of the unfavorables. he's the only one under water with the unfavorables. dasha, does this kind of polling matter to the christie camp? do they see this as overcomable. >> reporter: i think he knows this is quite a long shot. i think there's an aspect to this campaign where the disruption is kind of the point, right, to come in and campaign and behave and have a very different tone than the rest of the field, and see what happens

from there, right, whether that means that his polling numbers change or the favorability changes or that simply his own brand and how he is viewed with the republican party and how he is viewed in the history books changes. and maybe how he changes the dynamics of the race, which could be the goal and the point in and of itself. but certainly he has watched and seen as some of the other top contenders just have been a little bit timid when it comes to taking on the former president. he said in a recent town hall in new hampshire just a couple of months ago, he sort of talked about some regret in 2016. he said that the candidates made a strategic error in '16 thinking they would save their attacks for trump later when it was more of a one on one competition, and they shouldn't have done that. they should have gone after that earlier. >> he does have the benefit of experience. john allen, dasha burns, thank you, guys, very much. it's going to get interesting. i think we can certainly say that.

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some of the world's poorest people. the central african republic is a failed state, torn apart by civil war. in the capital, i saw children starving to death, at the only pediatric hospital. >> what's it like for you as the director here to see all of these cases? >> it upsets me, she says, mothers don't have money to buy food, and the children fall into this state. they are young victims of africa's resource curse. desperately poor people living on land with vast untapped wealth. here, it's gold and diamonds, but they're not lifting people out of poverty. much of the riches are now flowing to russian mercenaries from the wagner group. russia's private army, known for its brutality in ukraine. wagner is led by yevgeny prigozhin. in ukraine, wagner fights for

the kremlin. it makes its money here. according to two western diplomats, wagner extracts a half a million dollars a career from this country in gold, rare timber, and blood diamonds. this woman who asked us to conceal her identity for her protection lived near the village of endasima where her husband was a gold miner. she told me how russian mercenaries drove the villagers away. >> translator: there were people within people. >> reporter: when her husband and seven others refused to leave, they were executed. what do you think the russians wanted, gold, do you think it's as simple as that? >> reporter: yes, they came for our wealth and for ourgold. >> translator: today, my children don't have a father. they don't have anything of their own. >> reporter: working with the research group the century, nbc news reviewed more than a dozen allegations of wagner violence including here.

this was 2019 before the russian takeover. an image taken this month shows the mine has expanded dramatically, now capable of generating untraceable profits. wagner was invited into the central african republic by the government. crush a rebellion, the government quickly became dependent on russian support. wagner even provides the personal security for the president. >> mr. president, it's a real pleasure, richard inge. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> what do you say about that, that the russian forces you've brought in to help secure it have committed abuses? >> translator: listen, we are a responsible government and there are laws in this country. we have set up a commission of inquiry to see if the facts reported in these reports. >> reporter: the government relies on wagner to survive. wagner pays itself in gold. the people are left starving. we reached out to prigozhin and

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the case aens a former cia agent accused of sexually abusing more than 20 incapacitated women could fall apart, despite a mountain of evidence allegedly showing him carrying out these crimes. joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. so, what exactly is going on here, ken? >> reporter: katy, the evidence in this case was so strong that brian jeffrey raymond, former cia officer, actually pleaded guilty in two counts in a plea deal, after agents found hundreds of photos on his phone of him engaging in sexual abuse of incapacitated women, mostly in mexico city where he was based as a cia officer. but then his lawyers discovered there were problems in which the

state executed the search and seizure of his iphones. so they convinced the judge to withdrawal the guilty plea. and tomorrow, the judge is holding the hearing a motion to suppress if not most or all of the evidence in the case. essentially, they violated his rights because they didn't understand how iphones work and iphone password and security. after they left, they left the iphones back to him. and demanded that he use his thumbprint to open the phone committee warrant gave him the right to do. then his lawyers say they badgered him in giving up his pass code which the court's upheld you can't do because that's considered a fifth amendment self-incrimination. lawyers i've talked to say this could go the other way, the lawyers may win in the end. but if this case is dismissed, it would mean that a person the judge has said is a sexual predator will out of a d.c.

jail. >> yeah, judge colleen kollar-kotelly, as said, drugged the women and left them without reporting his devious schemes to law enforcement. >> she's going to have a hearing tomorrow. it shouldn't be too long. there's ever reason to believe whatever she rules will be appealed, katy. let me ask you about capitol hill, house oversight chair james comer is not happy with the fbi director. and he's considering holding a vote to hold him in criminal contempt. why? >> because he wants a document that he says includes a tip that went into the fbi in 2020 accusing president biden of accepting a $5 million bribe when he was vice president to influence policy. now, the white house said today there's nothing to these allegations. the fbi doesn't want to give up this kind of very sensitive internal document because it includes identity of a confidential human source. and they say that congress is

not entitled to it. but comer and the republicans are prepared to cold christopher wray, the fbi director, in contempt of congress. of course that is meaningless unless the justice department enforces it. >> and comer was scheduled to speak at 1:00 p.m. today. >> we just saw a news release saying that phone call did not resolve the situation. >> did not resolve the situation. ken dilanian, thank you very much. that right there is going to do it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪♪ hi there everyone, it's 4:00 in new york. what would be the single act against jack smith right inside of trump's mind and helps him understand the intentions for clinging to power, following his electoral defeat in 2020? well, we don't know for sure, but it just might be tr