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broadway at the stephen sondheim theater. lorna courtney and betsy wolfe, congratulations to you both. thank you both very much, and best of luck. let's get that tony. all right, that does it for -- yes, that's a big yes, and be proud of yourselves. i love that. that does it for us this morning, ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. hello, and thank you so much for joining us on this thursday. it's about 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york, and this morning the clock is rapidly running down on capitol hill. the senate gaveling in at this hour with the debt deal on its docket, and with just days until a historic default. the deal passed the house late yesterday. it was an overwhelming bipartisan majority voting yes. will 60 senators vote the same and in time?
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it's a bad deal for america, a missed opportunity to confront our challenges, an abdication of our responsibility. this deal begs the question, with republicans like these, who needs democrats. plus, another elephant is about to enter the room, former vice president mike pence is set to officially join the republican primary next week. does he have the juice to take down his old boss, the upstart governor from florida and the growing list of others? and more trouble for trump, a source now confirms to nbc news that federal prosecutors have a recording suggesting trump knew he kept classified material after leaving the white house, what we've learned about a 2021 conversation at bedminster. and later, cloudy with a chance of wildfires, the flames blazing in canada, sending smoke over new england and triggering air quality alerts along the east coast. let's begin on capitol hill
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where the senate will convene any moment with a very tight deadline of just four days to pass the debt deal. let's go to nbc's ryan nobles there on capitol hill and mike memoli who's covering the white house, ryan, several senators on both sides of the aisle have talked about potentially introducing amendments that would delay the passage. so do party leaders think they can get this done in time? >> yeah, it does seem as though despite the fact that any one senator could delay this process indefinitely, there would be some sort of arrangement where the amendment votes would take place, most all of them will fail and this bill will be passed in time. it seems now not a matter of if but when. it could happen as soon as tonight if they can come to some sort of agreement. but it likely could happen tomorrow or into the weekend. regardless, it should happen with enough time to get ahead of that deadline on monday. there's still going to be some angst around this vote, much
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like we saw in the house, there are conservative republicans and progressive democrats unhappy with the compromises that were made to get this legislation to a place where it could get enough votes to pass. i caught one bernie sanders, the leading progressive in the senate yesterday who said he understood this process but said he couldn't vote for it in good conscience. take a listen. >> why do you feel it's necessary to take this stand and vote no on something that president biden is specifically asking, you know, the party to caucus with the vote? >> because this is a bill while much, much improved over what started in the house is a bill that at a time when the middle class is shrinking, working class families are struggling, makes cuts in nutrition programs, in housing programs, in programs that ordinary people desperately need. >> and there will be a couple of other progressive democrats that join sanders in voting no. there will be a few conservative republicans that also vote no, but at the end of all of this,
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it does appear there are the 60 votes necessary to get this over the threshold. it's important to point out as we wait for the senate vote to see what happened in the house, right? there were a lot of loud voices complaining about what they didn't like in this bill. but when it came time to voting it was an overwhelming success, more than 300 yes votes in the house. my sense is we're going to see a similar outcome here in the senate as well. >> the official count was 314 yes votes, 117 no votes in the house. it really was overwhelming. the president isn't taking anything i guess for granted. he's been urging the senate to act quickly. how involved is the white house in whipping up the vote in that chamber. >> understandably, the focus of the white house has been primarily on the house of representatives and so has it for us for good reason. we even saw the leadership of the senate both majority leader schumer and minority leader mitch mcconnell kicked out of the room essentially so that the president could negotiate with speaker mccarthy. that momentum is a very powerful force in washington and the
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white house does seem confident they will get a similar result in the senate. yes, there have been voices on both -- in each party, the progressives on the left, the conservatives on the right, but as we did see in the house a powerful force in the middle coming together. that is why we should call some attention to senator tim kaine. he's been a close ally of president biden, somebody who has worked with him for decades now in a number of different roles, and he has been voicing some complaints about the fact that a pipeline project that includes virginia that has been a priority of west virginia senator joe manchin was something that was included in this legislation that he was not consulted on, and so this speaks to the dynamics of the senate that ryan knows so well. any individual senator including one supportive of the president can hold things up. the president is in colorado, he's about to speak in the next hour to the air force academy graduation ceremony. from colorado last night he did issue a statement underscoring the need for the senate to act quickly, but underlining the point we've heard from the white
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house so often over the course of the last week, was that this bipartisan agreement is a bipartisan compromise. either side got everything it wanted, and that's the responsibility of governing. he also singles out speaker mccarthy for praise here. that relationship that has been developing over the course of the last six months is something we're going to continue to watch in an area of divided government. are there more areas that these two men could potentially find common ground on, unlikely, but certainly the imperatives of the debt ceiling crisis achieve what so far has been a good result. >> it's interesting because there was a lot of discussion about mccarthy and his speakership, and he took over that role specifically, but i also look at the senate and mitch mcconnell has been very clear here. he believes this is a bill that is good for americans and is urging essentially without saying i urge you specifically to pass this bill, what kind of test is this of his leadership among republicans in the senate? >> this entire process gives us
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a pretty interesting window into the role mitch mcconnell is playing in all of this. he was essentially hands off. he is usually the guy sitting at the table. he's part of the horse trading. he's intimately involved in every detail, and this time around he essentially handed the responsibility over to kevin mccarthy and gave kevin mccarthy his full support and faith that he'd be able to get it to this point. now mcconnell will pick up the ball and encourage his senate colleagues on the republican side to supply chuck schumer enough votes to get to that 60-vote threshold. what we've seen time and time again with mcconnell is, yes, there are a relatively small faction of conservative republicans that are not necessarily fans of his. some of them challenged his leadership. ultimately he controls the senate, especially in the republican side, and he will be able to marshal the votes necessary to get this over the finish line. certainly there may be some senators that he lets slide.
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some he asked to take a tough vote, but there's every indication that they will have the votes necessary when it's all said and done. >> ryan nobles and mike memoli, sounds like progress, a rare word we use when it comes to everything on the capitol hill. thank you so much. turning to the impacts of this debt deal for all of us, a big one is student loans. under this bill some 40 million americans will have to start paying them back beginning in late august. those payments have been on pause since the start of the pandemic. it's been almost three years. we're also watching the supreme court, which is set to rule shortly on president biden's student loan forgiveness plans. all of this playing a role on students, now let's head to washington square park in new york city and msnbc's lindsey reiser is there for us. what are you hearing from student loan borrowers? are they prepared to start paying again? >> reporter: ana, as you mentioned, no student has had to make payments towards their federal loan sense the start of the pandemic when former
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president trump signed the c.a.r.e.s. act into law in 2020. no borrowers had to make those payments. interest has also been paused. but as part of this debt ceiling bill that would end, essentially 60 days after june 30th, so we're looking at the end of august, borrowers would have to start making payments on those loans, and we know this will impact people. they've been sort of watching what's been happening, i've been talking to students here, we're near nyu at this iconic park. one student told me that it is what it is. she knew this day was going to come. she's prepared for it, but she's also really glad that this is putting attention on the issue and making sure that borrowers are sort of at the forefront of the conversation. this is what she told me. >> there's a lot of hope knowing that we're at this point. people are advocating for it. people recognize people should have it paid off because quite frankly, doesn't make too much
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sense. >> reporter: and so we also know that inflation has been the reason the administration has continued the pause. republicans are saying, look, this will save taxpayers $5 billion a month, many hard-liners as ryan and mike were talking about, they're unhappy with this debt ceiling deal because they say this student debt forgiveness plan, they call it a scheme, and this doesn't necessarily address the biden administration's overall plan to forgive that debt. that is what is tied up right now in the supreme court. students i'm talking to are telling me they would like to see that go through. it would impact them. one student who doesn't have to start repaying his debt yet because he's still in college, he's already looking towards that graduation point and saying this is going to be a burden for me. he's stressing out about repaying. he is hoping the supreme court rules in his favor. of course a lot of people are saying with a conservative court right now, it's unclear which
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way that should go. >> we should have an answer by the end of this month. we are watching closely. lindsey reiser, thank you for that reporting. we're back in 60 seconds, the latest on that building collapse this iowa. officials will hold a briefing next hour as they weigh demolition with people potentially still trapped inside. plus, if you noticed a haze in the air, you are not imagining things. how out of control wildfires in canada are impacting air quality here in the u.s. also, 2024 news, a former vp about to join the growing field, but can mike pence breakthrough against his former boss and florida's governor? and do you have one of those ring door bells? do you know who's watching you? details on a settlement related to amazon employees allegedly spying.
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welcome back. within the next hour, city officials in davenport iowa are scheduled to give an update on the search of that collapsed apartment building. crews are right now using a high-tech drone to help access the damage and look for any potential survivors remaining inside. officials believe two people may still be trapped in that crumbling building. it comes as we are learning more about the history of complaints by current and former tenants about the safety of that building. joining us from davenport, iowa, is nbc news correspondent shaq brewster. so shaq, what might we learn at this upcoming news conference next hour? >> well, i think the big thing that we're looking to learn because we haven't heard from officials in nearly two days at this point is how many people are missing. we heard two days ago that five people were unaccounted for. two people believed to be trapped in that rubble, so we're looking to see based on the drone imaging that they were doing, based on the activity that we've seen at the site, what is the latest on those who are unaccounted for?
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but we also learned last night some pretty shocking information about the condition of the building before it collapsed as recently as four days before it collapsed. we saw the report from a structural engineer who went through and was responding to complaints that were filed. there was work being done to the building, and let me just read one of the quotes from this letter that the structural engineer released there. he said that there were large patches of brick appear -- he said large patches of brick appear ready to fall imminently. he said specific repairs are needed, quote, to keep the entire face of the building from falling away when the bottom areas come loose. that was almost the warning that was given by the structural engineer. officials have said they got other information that suggested that the building was still structurally sound but the engineer was saying that as this work is being done there was potential danger for the entire facade of the back to come off. and you know this is something
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that we've been hearing from folks here on the ground really since we first arrived. there have been complaints are from residents talking about the conditions inside. we saw in more than 90 documents that were released from the city, pictures from the complaints, pictures showing apartments at temperatures of 57 degrees, cracks that were very visible. there was a window that was cracked or windows that had separation between the foundation or the structure and the actual window structure, really shocking conditions that city officials say they responded to. there's record of them going and inspecting all of this, but really shocking conditions that are really leading to more questions about the condition of the building. we heard from the owner of the building for the first time yesterday. he said in a statement that his prayers and -- his thoughts and prayers are with the family and tenants of the residents and he thanked first responders. there are a lot of questions that we expect to get answers from city officials in just about an hour, ana. >> so many questions, number one, being how does it get to
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this point building that kind of condition. turning now to the attack on the capitol and two sentencings that will happen today for members of the far right oath keepers group. roberto minuta will learn his punishment. that hearing just getting underway. this afternoon edward vie ahoe was stationed in a hotel room with a supply of rifles sending texts to other oath keepers offering to bring them weapons if needed. up next on "ana cabrera reports," a new twist on the special counsel probe, details of an audio recording prosecutors have obtained of donald trump talking about a classified document and what it revealed. plus, decision 2024, former vice president mike pence set to enter the republican field as
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again with news that trump's former vp mike pence will officially announce his candidacy for the white house next week. joining us now from iowa is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, also with us is former republican congressman from pennsylvania charlie dent. vaughn, what can we expect from trump there in iowa as he's positioning himself against desantis? >> reporter: right, if you can work with me here for a moment, last night was actually a notable marker on the iowa caucus time line, and that's because for the first time as presidential candidates, both ron desantis and donald trump were in iowa together campaigning against one another officially as presidential candidates. while ron desantis was in cedar rapids, iowa, his fifth stop of the day, donald trump meanwhile was on who am radio in des moines taking part in an interview ahead of multiple stops around the greater des moines area later toda he was
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asked by the host of that radio show explicitly why he took on republicans so aggressively including even the likes of ron desantis who the host suggested could be a potential nominee for the republicans in 2028 if donald trump is the nominee this go around. take a listen. >> well, we're in wars, and this is a war of, you know, a certain kind, and what you do is generally speaking the person that's in second place, you go after that person, as opposed to a person that's in eighth or ninth place. he was a very disloyal person. he had no chance of winning the election, and he asked me to endorse him, and i endorsed him, and all of a sudden he's running against me. >> reporter: i was talking to a close ally of trump in the state, he told me that donald trump is not naive to the fact that he's going to have to work hard to win the iowa caucus. much like he did eight years ago when he was in town every one or two weeks holding rallies, he
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said he'll need to put in the same sort of ground effort. the folks that were behind ted cruz's operation eight years ago in which he visited all 99 counties really did the politicking it took to win the iowa caucus. ron desantis could mount that sort of campaign. in urbandale, iowa, the west side is meeting. a jeb bush supporter, the last time the republicans got the caucus, donald trump only earned about 24% support. so this is a field that has a history of really engaging with these candidates and this is an opportunity, if ron desantis wants to be a truly viable candidate, this is the place he can lay that ground. >> we keep hearing about iowa nice and that's something that resonates with people there, and yet you hear trump going after desantis. desantis is starting to take on trump a little bit more as well, at least more directly.
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listen to him last night there in iowa. >> leadership at the end of the day is not about entertainment. it's not about building a brand. it's not about virtue signaling. it's about producing results. >> congressman, he doesn't say his names but we know who he's referring to there. what do you make of the ramped up attacks or fighting between trump and desantis? >> i think that he's starting to at least draw a little bit of a contrast. it needs to be much sharper, much more direct, much more frontal. he needs to lay it out that trump has brought nothing but defeat. he has been indicted. is likely to be indicted again. he is too great a risk for the republican party and for the country. he needs to make that a very clear statement. i don't think that he has done that. he wants to be the clear alternative to donald trump, but the reason why all these other candidates have jumped in is because desantis has in many
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respects slipped in terms of his polling and they see vulnerability there. if desantis wants to win, he has to prove he's a real viable alternativety. he's starting to take a few small jabs. >> a whole slew of people are expected to enter the race next week. i don't want to just focus on these two. we have mike pence set to announce his run on wednesday along with north dakota governor doug bergen that same day, that follows chris christie set so jump into the race on tuesday. this is a still growing field. what does that tell you? >> the growing field suggests that, you know, ron desantis is seen as vulnerable, and we don't know who it will be, tim scott, nikki haley, asa hutchinson, one of these candidates will hopefully emerge as the real viable alternative. that would also require other candidates at some point to get out of this race because they're not going to beat donald trump
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with a crowded field, splits the anti-trump vote too many ways. >> does it help democrats as well? >> well, it certainly helps trump with a lot of candidates in the race. i think trump would like to keep them all in as long as possible. that will not be viable, though, for republicans to take him down in the primary, and i'm sure democrats would like nothing more than to run against donald trump again. they've beaten him once. they'll beat him again, and they realize that he's the easiest candidate, probably be the easiest candidate for joe biden to beat because joe biden has many vulnerabilities himself, a lot of democrats, a large number of democrats do not want him to run again. so there's not a lot of enthusiasm there on the biden camp, and trump they see as their ticket to winning re-election. >> vaughn, how does trump look at this growing field? >> this is sort of a dodge ball type situation, and in that interview last night he acknowledged he is going on the attack against ron desantis right now because frankly, you
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like the guy who's in eighth and ninth place because they could help him attack ron desantis. because so many of these candidates are in a fight to take down ron desantis in that second position. because we are so far out, and for that dodge ball comparison, it's going to come down to the rest of the field, whether while this field is large, do they all try to take on donald trump in a united force. so far we have not seen that sort of arrangement by these candidates. it was back in 2016, ted cruz and john kasich, they kind of had a pact right at the end when it came down to the final three. at that point it was too late, and the reason they came to a pact to take on donald trump was because they realized that was the only way they had a chance to stop him. and so for donald trump right now, he feels like he's in a good position. and since ron desantis announced his polling numbers really haven't changed. nationally he's still 25, 30 points up here.
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this growing field only helps him because it distracts attention away from him of being the sole target while others are trying to fight amongst themselves. >> mike pence was trump's vice president, he was loyal to trump for a long time. so anti-trumpers don't love him, but trump supporters don't love him either. we all remember those rioters who stormed the capitol chanting hang mike pence. how might he go about redefining himself in this race? >> mike pence, he's a good and honorable man, but i think mike pence is trying to stake out his own lane. he's going to run as a traditional, conservative republican, socially very conservative, trying to appeal to evangelicals and frankly, i think that's a difficult road at this point. especially mike pence is well-known on the abortion issue for example. he'll take the hardest position of all the candidates. not a great issue, frankly n a general election, and i don't think it's that great an issue in the republican primary. i think he's going to have a
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difficult time finding a lane. also, like the other candidates, they need to draw a sharp contrast with donald trump. mike pence is going to have to do that. he has been so tied to donald trump, but for post 2020 election when mike pence stood up and did the right thing. that's going to be mike pence's challenge. as was just stated by vaughn, these candidates can't try to battle themselves for second place. they have to go against the lead candidate. that's donald trump. fighting with each other, winning second place is really not a victory at all. you still lose. that's what happened in 2016. chris christie had the right approach to this. he understands that trump is the one that has to be taken down, and i don't think he's going to waste any time attacking these other candidates. >> if he ends up throwing some flame balls into the mix when he enters the race on tuesday, we'll be watching. congressman charlie dent, vaughn hillyard, thank you both for joining us.
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while he's hitting the trail, we have developments this morning in the special counsel investigation into former president donald trump and classified documents, a source directly familiar with the matter confirms to nbc news that the special counsel's office has a recording of trump from 2021 after he was out of the white house discussing a classified planning document he had kept after leaving office. we are told this document relates to iran and on the tape trump acknowledges it is classified. we've also learned this recording was played during grand jury testimony. "washington post" national security reporter devlin barrett and barbara mcquade is with us as well. devlin, you have more on when this recording was made and who was around at the time. what do you know about those circumstances? >> right, so this recording happened in july of 2021 so almost two years ago, and it
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happened at a time when trump was particularly angry at the joint -- chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, a guy named mark milley. other people in the room were a young aid to trump and people who are helping trump's former chief of staff mark meadows write a book, and there's a version, a condensed version of this conversation in meadows' book. >> and so barbara, the trump attack is just waiting this off, slamming this as politically motivated, but how significant could this evidence be? >> legally, ana, it's very significant. first, it could be used in a trial to show that donald trump had the knowledge of the classification rules. one of the things that makes it difficult to prove a case of mishandling classified documents is you must prove a willful violation, that is that the person knew they were violating the law. this is contrary to the normal rule that ignorance of the law is no excuse. if we've got donald trump on
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tape talking about the rules about what he can and cannot share, that can prove that kind of criminal intent. i think another significance is that this relates to national defense information. that talks it into a different statute that makes it irrelevant whether it was or was not classified. the reason that matters when donald trump talks about declassifying things just by thinking about it, that defense is off the table. i think the third significance is that this makes it completely different from the scenarios we've seen of inadvertent retention by joe biden and mike pence. if donald trump admits that he has retained this document and that it's classified past his time in office, then that makes it completely distinguishable from those other scenarios. >> devlin, you report that according to your sources trump on this tape expresses, quote a desire to share that information with others but also making some kind of acknowledgment that he
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shouldn't do so. here was trump's lawyer on cnn last night. >> if you have the authority to declassified, you're not wedded to any bureaucratic process. >> so what do you make of that argument that if it's true that trump made some sort of acknowledgment that he shouldn't have this document? >> right. i think that -- this whole argument about maybe he declassified things in his mind, maybe there doesn't need to be a process because the president is all powerful, that was always, i think, a not particularly great defense argument in this case. i think what this tape does, assuming it is being accurately described, and a lot will depend on the precise wording of what's on tape. assuming this tape is as described, that really undercuts what was already a flimsy and sort of circular and confusing argument by the defense team. >> and again, if it's on the tape, the grand jury has heard it, the special counsel has it
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as evidence that it could use if it were to pursue an indictment and charges in this case. even if the documents weren't classified, that doesn't exactly absolve trump from any legal jeopardy here, right? my understanding is the espionage act, one of the potential crimes the special counsel is looking at has no mention of whether something is classified. >> that's right, the espionage act was passed during the time of world war i. instead it just talks about national defense information, and so certainly talking about military attacks against iran, absolutely is national defense information, and so that takes this whole issue of classification off the table. this defense by jim trusty about bureaucratic rules is absolutely mum bow jumbo when it comes to national defense information. one of the things that is so powerful about this evidence, it completely moots any argument about whether trump either did or thought he could declassify
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out of control wildfires in canada are now impacting us here in the u.s. plumes of smoke are drifting thousands of miles triggering air quality alerts now along the east coast. nbc news correspondent anne thompson is following the impacts here. anne, i have family out west. they've been feeling the impacts of the smoke. who's most at risk? >> well, people who are most at risk are people who have heart and lung disease. they're the ones who really need to pay attention to what's going on, and they're at risk here on the east coast because of what's happening in nova scotia, a situation that officials there call unprecedented. >> reporter: across our northern border a string of massive canadian wildfires rage on in nova scotia and show no signs of slowing down. >> it's really been heartbreaking, definitely a lot of helplessness. >> reporter: as concerns over potentially dangerous air
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quality in the northeast as a result of the blazes grow. this satellite imagery showing the drifting smoke. >> we don't have any evidence that there's a safe level of air pollution. every level we find adverse health effects associated with that. >> reporter: you could see the impacts wednesday in the hazy skylines of new york and boston. as a high pressure system sent the canadian smoke south and west prompting environmental official stateside to issue air quality alerts in new jersey and pennsylvania. >> who needs to pay attention to this? >> anyone who has asthma, emphysema, other chronic lung diseases, people who have pre-existing heart disease, people who are pregnant. there's also concern particularly about the elderly or young children. >> no, it's not common at all. >> reporter: maya mitchell and her husband recently went out to dinner to celebrate her birthday, the couple completed with smoke tinged skies.
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>> it smelled almost like a house fire. >> reporter: experts say climate change is playing a definitive role in air quality as it makes wildfires more intense and stronger. >> should we expect more of this this summer? >> i think we will see more as the summer progresses, as the west further dries out and we deal with weather patterns that are limiting the amount of precipitation. >> okay, how about some good news, and we actually have that. today the air quality alerts have been lifted in those parts of pennsylvania and new jersey because of the smoke from the canadian wildfires, and it looks like this weekend they may get a break up in nova scotia, the rains are going to come in tomorrow afternoon, and it's supposed to rain for days, and that's the kind of weather break they need. >> fingers crossed. thank you so much, anne thompson, good to see you. tv star danny masterson best known for his role on "that '70s show" has been convicted on two
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counts of rape. this is a retrial. he was accused of raping three women that he met through the church of scientology at his hollywood hills home from 2001 through 2003. the jury was not able to reach a verdict on the third rape charge. his sentencing is set for august 4th. he faces up to 30 years in prison. up next on "ana cabrera reports." if you have a ring camera, you're going to want to hear this, the allegations of spying that led to a multimillion dollar settlement. plus, this summer we could actually learn if ufos do come, what to expect from nasa's new report on unidentified aerial phenomena. fied aerial phenomena.
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e*trade from morgan stanley welcome back. so doorbell cameras provide a sense of security. you can watch what's happening at your home even when you're away, but it turns out someone else may have been watching too. amazon's ring just reached a $5.8 million settlement with the federal trade commission over allegations that employees were spying on customers. this complaint includes an example, quote, one ring employee viewed thousands of video recordings belonging to at least 81 unique female users. ring responded to the settlement saying, quote, while we disagree with the ftc's allegations and deny violating the law, this settlement resolves this matter so we can focus on innovating on behalf of our customers.
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let's discuss with nbc news legal analyst danny cevallos. okay, so let's just start with the allegations here, danny, which, again, ring denies, but they're very unsettling, very creepy. >> the whole reason that people buy a ring device is to feel secure and now people are feeling very unsecure as a result of these allegations, essentially that ring in an era pre-2018 and 2017 had virtually no safety protocols to prevent not just employees but allegedly third-party contractors including in ukraine, the country, from accessingknow, ring doorbell goes on the outside of your house. well, no. some people use them inside and label them things like bedroom and of course, if you're somebody who is breaching these security concerns and looking at the video, you will look at the video feed that says bedroom and that's exactly apparently according to ftc what was going on. so the ring allegations are very concerning and you see amazon in
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their statement says, hey, this is settled. let's put it behind us, yeah, for you, not necessarily for the rest of us who may have been wandering around in front of our bedroom ring cam and who knows what was going on in 2017 and 2018. who in ukraine has video of us if we used ring not just in the front door area, but inside of our house which i'm sure plenty of people did. >> what kind of privacy protections are in place, are there any when it comes to privacy laws? >> amazon is promising that that's going to going through an increase of security and third-party multi-step authentication and things like that, but that's a hollow promise to people who already have no idea whether or not their video or image has been breached, is out there. possibly in eastern europe somewhere and uncontrolled. once you let out video like that, you can't unring the bell. so going forward and fixing
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security concerns may be a good step to the extent that amazon follows through with its promise, but what do we do about all of us whose privacy has been breached, specially because some of us have no idea. >> do you think there are more cases still coming regarding this and also bigger picture, is it a matter of privacy law not keeping up with technology? >> exactly right. that's always been the case, by the way. the law always is outpaced by technology. it's arguably the only way to do it. technology advances and legislation and the law and the courts struggle to catch up because existing law simply doesn't contemplate what is coming around the corner. >> you don't know what you don't know. >> you have no idea. how can you possibly deal with that, and things like alexa ten years ago, could we imagine that we would voluntarily put something in our home that is apparently recording everything we say and using it to improve its algorithm, but recording is
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still recording. >> it always catches me off guard when alexa said, wait, i didn't quite hear what you said. i wasn't talking to you. what are you recording me saying? >> we are still doing it irrespective of those security concerns and maybe that's what it costs to live in this world. >> danny cevallos, interesting and creepy. thank you. to two states with new developments in the abortion fight. the oklahoma supreme court ruled yesterday that two of the new laws banning abortion in that state are unconstitutional. however, most abortions do remain illegal in oklahoma with some exceptions and this decision was praised by doctors in that state who said that law now ruled unconstitutional forced them to wait for medical conditions to worsen before they could perform any procedures, and in nevada, the state's republican governor, joe lombardo has now signed into law a bill that protects abortion
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size, curves and grooves may have a greater influence on how we think, feel and behave than the connections and signals between neurons. think about that. when it comes to ufos they say that the truth is out there. this summer that truth may also be in a new report coming from a nasa panel tasked with studying ufos which held its first public meeting yesterday. nbc news correspondent gadi schwartz nbc's unofficial correspondent has more. >> this is a sphericalorb, metallic in the middle east, 2022. in a first-ever public meeting wednesday nasa scientists dove head first into the other worldly universe of ufos. >> in the four-hour meeting the panelists commissioned in june of 2022 analyzed and spoke about the more than 800 cases of uaps they're looking into.
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[ laughter ] woo hoo! >> the main findings, the need to stop make fun of ufo research and more importantly to start collecting better data on the far-out subject. >> without sufficient data we are unable to reach defendable conclusions that meet the high scientific standards we set for resolution. >> over the last year the panel has worked to create eight road map to categorize unoifred anomalist phenomena saying while most sightings can be explained, up to 5% of cases remain a mystery? in order to do science with these things we have to get our own data. >> adam frank is an astro physicist. >> being able to talk about this without being made fun of and step two, getting data, and step three maybe we'll have an answer? >> start watching these guys and then we'll be in a position to begin to say whether or not there's anything actually unusual here and whether there's anything that even goes beyond human physics.
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>> within the last year congress has held two hearings on ufos and separate from nasa, the pentagon has created a department, an all-domain anomaly office for sightings. >> this is a video. you will notice there are two dots moving back and forth. >> even with a growing focus on the unknown, nasa cautions -- >> there's no guarantee that all sightings will be explained. >> that was gadi schwartz reporting and our thanks to him for that. that will do it for us today. thank you so much for being with us. see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. until then i'm ana cabrera. jose diaz balart picks up coverage right now. >> good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern and 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz balart. five people a
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