scheduled for today on an air force base in nevada. and cracks in the walls, that's just one in a laundry list of complaints that tenants have been making for years to management of the iowa apartment building that partially collapsed over the weekend. we'll have a live report from davenport with the latest on the search and rescue there. also, moving on, the debt ceiling bill now in the hands of the senate with a series of new hurdles and an ambitious new schedule as congressional leaders try to fast track the bill to president biden's desk. the challenges ahead. plus, how people with student loans are reacting to the very real chance they'll have to start making payments again late this summer if that bill is signed into law. our nbc news reporters are following all the latest developments, and let's begin right here in washington where time is running out over the debt ceiling. joining me from capitol hill is correspondent ali vitali, so the senate majority leader, chuck schumer says time is a luxury

the senate does not have. so is this going to get done today, tomorrow, or certainly before june 5th? >> reporter: we're hoping before june 5. senators are trying to haggle if they can do this today or if they can do this tomorrow. there is a real desire here to not have to work the weekend, and it's probably a combination of that desire, some jet fumes, the need to get out of town, and then also an agreement on amendments that's likely to get us there. one of the things that's holding this up is people like senator lindsey graham who are unhappy about the way they see defense spending capped in the current bill. he's upset with his own party for negotiating this. here's what he had to say about this. watch. >> i blame myself for not being more involved and more active because in my wildest dreams, i never believed that the republican party would take the biden budget that they've

attacked for a year and celebrate it as fully funding. >> reporter: and look, graham is not the only one who's complaining about the numbers that he sees for defense spending. other senators like tom cotton have voiced their concerns, and it's why it's one of the things on the list of possible amendment votes that we might see either today or tomorrow. that's how they're going to come to a time agreement on this that allows them to meet the deadline, but other parts of that, not just raising military spending which would assuage people like graham and cotton, but cutting overall spending, that's something senators rand paul and mike lee, and stripping pipeline approval. this is a pipeline that goes through west virginia and virginia, something that joe manchin is in favor of, but his fellow senator from virginia, tim kaine is not. this is something they have said they agree to disagree. that doesn't exactly tell us how the amendment on that is going to shake out and if they'll have an agreement on that. those are the holdups they're trying to figure out, chris,

what are they going to put in for amendment votes that will allow them to get all hundred senators on board, if we do these amendment votes, we can do this today or tomorrow. get out of town with time to spare on the deadline. >> ali vitali, i know you'll continue to watch it for us, thank you, and if this debt ceiling bill gets signed into law, 43 million people will have to restart their student loan paymentings. msnbc anchor lindsey reiser is talking to people that have been affected. this is on pause since march 2020, what happens now, and what are folks telling you there in what looks like washington square park. >> reporter: we're in this iconic park near nyu, one of the most expensive universities in the nation, and a lot of people have been paying attention to what's going on. of course you mentioned borrowers haven't had to pay on their federal student loans while the biden administration has been in office. interest has been paused during that time. with the new debt ceiling bill, if passed, basically 60 days

from june 30th, borrowers would get this notice until the mail that they would have to start repayments and they would have 21 days before those repayments would start. this is in line with what the biden administration says they were thinking would be the restart to those payments anyway. republicans are saying this will save taxpayers about $5 billion a month. hard line republicans are saying this debt limit bill didn't do enough to address the biden administration's plan to forgive student loan debt up to $10,000 for most borrowers, up to 20,000 for pell grant recipients. that is currently being tied up in the supreme court. we're waiting on that right now to hear whether that's going to be either deemed unconstitutional or go through. and those hard line republicans and their own debt ceiling bill, they quashed this debt forgiveness plan, but of course the president has said he would veto that if it came to his desk, which doesn't look like that will go anywhere in the senate. i have been talking to students all day to figure out how this will affect them. let's listen to what some of

them told me. >> i didn't realize it was going to be that soon, and that abrupt, so, yeah, it's going to be a shock because now we have to allocate more of a budget now to pay those back in a timely manner. we still have to pay a house off, and then with all of this, and with inflation and rising prices and everybody trying to get one, it's becoming very unaffordable to do that, and adding another bill one op to have -- on top of that, it seems to be impossible. >> reporter: the amount that he owes and his wife, they will be paying $450 a month in student loan payments once this starts. chris, he says, you know, they have been trying to put it off so they can have the american dream, get married, buy a house, and he says right now, this kind of looks impossible for him, chris. >> lindsey reiser, thank you for that. the search is becoming more desperate in iowa where the number of people believed to be trapped in the building has risen from two to three. nbc's maggie vespa is live from davenport. we just heard, i understand,

from officials there. what new information do you have? >> reporter: yes, you just hit on the biggest headline. we have protesters marching near our live shot, they're chanting find our people, where is ryan, where is brandon, and daniel, the third person officials now say was very likely home when the building collapsed and lived in one of the apartments that is now essentially no more. so basically ryan hitchcock, brandon coleman, and bran don in that rubble. they have not been able to go into the rubble pile. they're evaluating it for the stability overall. they say the rubble right now is what's holding up the building. they also say they are reviewing their inspection process, tied to situations like this, and releasing more than 100 documents overnight detailing the city's interactions with this building dating back to like 2020, specifically since february, complaints and citations and warnings from the city about cracks in the walls,

between internal brick work helping to hold the building up. a lot of that officials say, and we're told by contractors and people on the ground was being repaired when sunday's collapse happened. here's part of what the mayor of davenport had to say today. do i have regrets about this tragedy and about people potentially losing their lives? hell yeah. any tragedy of any sort particular to this city that i'm in charge of and believe me, this is on me. and there are people that are talking about other people. it's me. >> reporter: and one of those other people that the mayor talked about is andrew wold, yesterday he spoke out only releasing a general statement basically saying that his heart and thoughts and his prayers are with the families and the tenants and thanking first

responders for their work in this scenario. but meantime, chris, just devastation and desperation on the ground here is growing, just in the last couple of hours. had police us court a man out of this fenced in area in handcuffs, and we were told that man is a good friend of brandon colvin, one of the men missing, who officials believe in that pile behind me, as he was being escorted out, he was yelling you're arresting me for trying to save a life. so in short, people started jumping the fence themselves, just hoping to find their loved ones. >> the desperation, i can only imagine, maggie vespa, thank you for that. now to that decision from pentagon leaders to stop a drag show on an air force base in nevada. courtney kube reported this story. what exactly happened? >> reporter: generally an event like this will be preapproved by the base commander and that's what happened here, but when

they notified the pentagon this was going to happen, and we should say, this is a drag show as part of the pride month, as we're in right now. pentagon leadership said it could not go on as planned. it either had to be cancelled or moved off base. and they cited a policy that essentially says that events like this cannot be carried out on a military installation and cannot use taxpayer funds to fund them. now, in the case of this show at nelis air force base, it was actually going to be privately funded but it was going to be carried out on a base, so there still would be military resources, things like electricity, the use of the bathroom facilities that would be funded by taxpayers. that was the problem according to officials i spoke with. this has been an issue that has been bubbling over the last several months, and it's been driven by a lot of people on capitol hill, particularly congressman matt gaetz, he's on the house armed services committee.

he has questioned secretary of defense, lloyd austin, and general mark milley about these sorts of shows on military installations, asking them whether taxpayer funds can and should be used for them. just last week, he sent them a letter listing a number of these sorts of events that have occurred everywhere from nelis to germany, asking if u.s. funds had been used for them, and asking for more details about it, chris. >> courtney kube, thank you for that. a major week ahead in what's becoming a very crowded presidential race, a few huge names now gearing up to enter with trump and desantis in key early voting states. as we speak. we're back in 60 seconds. ng stae as we speak. we're back in 60 seconds

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jump in. chris christie is set to announce on tuesday with mike pence and north dakota governor doug bergam scheduled with their own events the next day. all of this as donald trump and ron desantis are fighting it out in the early voting states. nbc's vaughn hillyard, and tara set meyer, good to have you both here. donald trump has this bulls eye on ron desantis now. i want you to hear what he said about that in a radio interview. >> well, we're in wars, and this is a war of, you know, a certain kind, and what you do is generally speaking, the person that's in second place, you go after that person as opposed to a person that's in 8th or 9th place. he was a very disloyal person, had no chance to win the election. he asked me to endorse him. i endorsed him, and all of a sudden he's running against me. >> no love lost, and frankly a

little bit more from desantis, is likely to get nasty. the "new york times" put it, we're at the start of a slug fest. what are you hearing? >> reporter: right, and actually donald trump also here just at an event about an hour ago, chris, he told the gathering of republicans here just outside of des moines that, you know, ron desantis turned to me, you've got eight years, two terms, donald trump only has four years, but donald trump's rebuttal to that was saying, well, ron desantis, it would take him eight years in the white house to transform the country. he said, for him, it would take six months to change most things, so that is sort of donald trump trying to counter punch the message of ron desantis here in this initial trip to the state. we are attempting to, i want to set the scene where we are right now, chris, we're outside of a church where donald trump just left literally two minutes ago. this is the gathered press. we were hoping to have the chance, it was suggested to us we're going to get the chance to ask donald trump some questions, particularly involving, of course, the special counsel's

investigation into the classified documents. we did not get that opportunity. he is on his way right now, as we speak, to a town hall that is going to be taped with sean hannity, on fox later tonight here. so for donald trump, it is very much the investigations and the political campaign, happening on a parallel track. well, the likes of ron desantis and the rest of those candidates , they really get to square up the attention on the front runner. >> can anyone really win a slug fest against donald trump? >> no. we've seen this before. this is the exact same scenario, almost, as 2015 and '16, and marco rubio tried that, and we saw what happened with marco rubio getting completely dressed down by donald trump. he became little marco, and that was the end of that, and of course chris christie, sacrificing himself in a political kamikaze move to take out rubio as well. this i know you are but what am

i strategy we're seeing developing between trump and desantis, just trading barbs like this, it's so immature and petulent, this does not demonstrate seriousness for someone running to be the free leader of the world. i don't know for republican primary voters they're entertained by this. they want to go with donald trump. this is why trump is so far ahead of everyone, including desantis. >> we are still just getting ready, you know, to sort of gear up into this. this is the first time that we have seen these candidates out on the campaign trail in this way, and we've got three new players who are going to get into this already crowded field. christy pence, of all the folks you see, the declared ones, the ones that are going to be declaring and the other potential candidates, who do you think maybe poses the biggest threat to desantis's number two position? >> at this point, it's tough to

say because all of these people really do not have a lane specifically, and the little bit of the lane of republicans, moderates, we call it the bannon line, the 7 to 11% of republicans who do not want a donald trump and are looking for something else. they don't want trump light, they don't want a diet coke version of trump, like desantis. those folks are going to get divvied up by chris christie, nikki haley, tim scott, they're all going to have -- there's going to be a plurality, which is what happened in 2016. so all of these vanity candidates that are out there are simply going to hand this right back to trump again because none of them are willing to get out and consolidate behind one person. i find chris christie's entrance into the race the most interesting because seeing them on a debate stage, that could be something to watch. but chris christie is incredibly unpopular within the republican primary voters, so who's voting

for him and what states early enough. what's his path? i don't see it. >> much more moderate than the average primary voter. is there even a space in the primaries for a moderate? we've got a lot more we're going to talk about moving forward. tara, vaughn, thank you very much. we have breaking news on the story we told you in the last hour. the senate has voted to block president biden's plan to forgive student loans. the legislation would end the pandemic era pause on student loan payments. the vote was largely along party lines. it passed 51-46, but the white house has already said the president will veto it. republicans spending big bucks on voter turnout operations, but are they getting what they're paying for? the reporter behind an nbc news exclusive about allegations of fraud joins me next. and as the bipartisan debt deal heads to the senate, the guy whose job it is, senate majority leader dick durbin,

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a paid canvasser in nevada did what thousands were doing across the country, they opened an app on their phone and check off all the homes they hit that day, except that canvasser didn't actually go to any of those places. instead, they were sitting inside caesar's palace casino, 8 miles away from the neighborhood in south las vegas that had been

marked off, according to gio tracking data obtained by nbc news. this isn't just a oneoff. insiders tell my nbc colleague that republicans are spending millions on flawed turnout operations. nbc's allen smith is behind this exclusive reporting and also with us. biden for president 2020, former senior adviser alencia johnson. so allen, what exactly did they tell you? >> chris, thanks for having me on. they told me in no uncertain terms that republican canvassing efforts are plagued with highly suspect to fraudulent door knocking submissions, a lot of individuals are hired with pretty lax oversight. not doing very complete background or social media checks. and generally there's this web of consultants and companies that can bid on door knocking contracts, subcontract them to

someone else, making a situation where there's very little accountability when problems arising. some of these problems do get caught. they are addressed. but they're a drain on, you know, valuable money and resources as, you know, these campaigns are in their final few weeks. what was more concerning to some of these guys was instances that were sneaking by the lines of defense that could be really impacting the data sets that republicans are using when they're, you know, modeling their turnout, and really estimating, you know, who's going to be hitting the ballots for them. >> so this is not unfamiliar to you, you work for the biden campaign for elizabeth warren, for planned parenthood, set the scene for people who are not political insiders. why are the stakes so high for this? why is so much money spent on door knocking? >> well, i'm glad you mentioned the money piece, i was talking to the democratic campaign committee earlier and they were talking about how 2022 was the

year they out spent on field operation versus television advertising because that voter-to-voter contact, you cannot get that in any other way. we're talking on television, but when i had the opportunity to go out and door knock on these campaigns, that was when you can persuade voters. there's a conversation to be had on not just how campaigns, advocacy groups, planned parenthood, there's a reason every single cycle, people are fighting for that endorsement because of that ground game, the ability to understand voters, not only when they vote but who they vote for, what they vote for. it's almost like this personal data base of who the voter is, and the reality is, i think, that when it comes to campaigns, obviously republicans have been doing this for years. democrats are, you know, investing more money in these races, particularly beyond the presidential cycle, because we do see a dropoff in democratic voting in midterms as well as state and local races, but when we go and actually knock on

these doors and talk to people about the issues they care about, that tends to move them and get them to realize that their vote might actually change a city council race by a few hundred or even 10 to 20 or 30 votes. >> one of the things when i first started going out and covering stories that surprised me, especially in nonpresidential years, that people seem surprised, you know, we live in this world. but people would be like, oh, there's an election this year, and they were like, oh, this is the issue, oh, yeah, i want to vote for the city council or whatever it is. it really does reach folks in a way that nothing else does if they think their neighbor is coming by to knock on their door. >> absolutely. that first question, oh, i didn't even realize there was an election this year or this month. i live in virginia, and where i live, there is a democratic primary in a few weeks, and the majority of people, very well educated informed people. >> probably vast majority.

>> they do not know that. right, and the reality is, what i've seen is that people understand that there's an election coming up, about an issue that they care about, school, gun violence, criminal justice, whatever it may be at the local level, and then you keep engaging them, and some of those people end up running for office, they start organizing their own communities, but it is that reminder, and it's so important to this article's point, it is so important that the information is accurate and that paid canvassers are doing what they're supposed to be doing because that does turn into not just one vote but potentially more votes depending who that voter is going to talk to in their veteran. >> and the inverse of this, one person said this is costing them elections, right? >> absolutely. and, you know, i just wanted to make a point, a lot of the folks who spoke to me for this story did so feeling almost as if this was a last resort, that they needed sunshine on this in order to have any hope of this system

changing. they see these problems not really at the individual level. i know the caesar's palace anecdote is really good, and folks might be a little entertained by it, but they see this as a systemic issue they would like to see changed from the top down, and they feel like folks aren't really paying attention to them when they raise concerns like this internally. so this was kind of like a last resort for them, and, you know, they see this as especially in these close elections, they spoke in a story about adam laxalt and herschel walker, but really in these close elections, canvassing can make a huge difference, and when you look at the numbers on some of these instances that we reported, it looks like it could have played some role in the amount of turnout that was happening last year. >> i almost feel like they should have seen this coming. i saw a flash back to college, earning money handing out flyers on street corners, i don't even remember what for, and everybody else that was doing it dropped off during the course of the day, and stopped handing them

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with the clock ticking louder and louder and pressure ramping up for the senate to follow the house and pass a debt limit deal, the ambitious goal

of getting it all wrapped up tonight may not happen. senate minority whip john thune tells our hill team the final vote is now trending more toward tomorrow. i'm joined by his democratic counter part, dick durbin, the guy in the majority in charge of keeping track of the votes. so good to see you. appreciate you taking the time. do you have the votes you need? >> i think the votes will be there. i would say john thune's estimate as to what might happen may be accurate but perhaps we're in a run of good luck in the senate. there's a sense of purpose here. we understand that defaulting on america's debt for the first time in history is just unacceptable for the damage it would do. there's a sense of urgency because we just have a few days before time runs out. and some of the players that are negotiating at this moment are good faith players. i've worked with many of them in the past. i think we can reach a point where we have a finite number of amendments and get them done in a serious way, maybe even late

tonight. >> let's talk about that. look, you've been there long enough to know that this isn't just about getting it moving quickly so people can go home for the weekend. the longer it goes on, the more chances for something to cause a problem. senator thune said he has heard from at least a dozen gop offices and at least one democrat interested in amendments. are there still that many, first of all, and what are those conversations like? are they moving slowly? are they moving more quickly? where are you in that process with the amendments? >> you really don't know until you call their bluff. you say to your colleagues, show me the amendments, it turns out, i have 12, but i really only want to see one or two of them. i have four, but i can wait and do it another day. you have to ask them to get beyond the staff estimate of what their interest is into the real world, and i think we'll get it down. i heard three or four members' names mention on the other side of the aisle, one on our side of the aisle, and we'll see.

if more emerge, we'll know pretty soon. >> we have heard you say some of the things echoed by democrats in the house and senate. bernie sanders definitely doesn't like it. elizabeth warren, at least maybe you have heard something more, said she was ambivalent, wouldn't commit to how she would vote. should the american people feel good about a process that produces a bill where the best a lot of people can say about it is it could have been a lot worse. >> the bottom line is president biden didn't ask for a summit negotiation. this was initiated by the republican speaker of the house. he represents a slight majority in the house, and he's speaking for that group of members of congress, and it's a reality, one of the major branches of government is controlled by the other party, so negotiation is almost inevaluatable. -- inevitable. the fact that we got through this in time to act in a responsible way before default sa positive sign. there are parts of it i don't like but i'm certainly not going

to have america default on its debt for the first time in history. it would be devastating to businesses and families alike. >> some analysts would go further. "politico" put it that this is a nightmare for progressives, it restricts nondefense funding, green lights a fossil fuel project, and puts requirements on s.n.a.p. benefits, also known as food stamps, so overall, are you concerned that some of these things are going to have to be addressed. right now we're in the middle of votes on the student loan pause. >> i can tell you there are parts of this i don't like at all. that's the nature of a compromise. let me tell you what wasn't on that list, it will be the first cut in medical research at the national institutes of health in the last ten years, if there's anything we ought to do as a nation is invest in medical research. it pays off in so many ways, alleviating human suffering and

save lives. to cut that, if that is speaker mccarthy's idea of cutting back on spending, that's the wrong approach. i don't like all of it. i don't like the fact that we run the risk of defaulting on the national debt for the first time. we can't let that happen. >> there's been a lot of talk, senator, about what this meant for kevin mccarthy, as you well know that there were medical examiner of his own caucus that would have liked to have seen him gone or at least one that proposed that possibility. let me ask you for a minute ant the president. you cannot ignore the political implications, saying i can get things done. does this help him? how important was his role in this? >> bottom line, as far as i'm concerned, we came out of this negotiation with the major elements of joe biden's administration protected. there were a lot of threats about what they were going to cut and what they were going to destroy and you would never see again. it didn't happen. there's a tap, of course, on federal spending, and that was to be anticipated, to be

expected. but when it came down to the basic premises of what we were running on in the last election and part of what we'll run on in the next election, they were protected in this process. more importantly, american families are protected from a default, and those who are struggling in our economy were not hurt as badly as some of the republicans wish. you mentioned food stamps and wanting to work. we ended up making an agreement there, a concession, and extending the age for people who want food stamps and had to work from 49 to 54. but we added more categories. veterans, homeless people, folks coming off of foster care, so in the end, there were more people eligible for s.n.a.p. benefits, although the work requirement was extended a few years, a compromise. >> before i let you go, i'll see how much of a betting man you are, if you were one, would you say the chances of something getting voted on tonight, 40/60, 60/40, where would you put the

chances that things get done today? >> subject to change in the next 15 minutes, 50/50, i'll get back to the floor and sense a little better what's actually going to happen. >> senator dick durbin, appreciate you taking the time on a very busy day. thank you. >> thank you. a growing number of major successful businesses from target to pet smart are facing backlash for embracing pride month. how it's hurting their bottom line, and will it shift their corporate strategies? that's next. d will it shift the corporate strategies that's next.

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breaking news, comedian bill cosby has just been hit with another sexual assault lawsuit filed in civil court by former model victoria valentino who alleges he drugged and sexually assaulted her more than five decades ago in 1969. the lawsuit is possible because of a new california law that lifts the statute of limitations for civil sexual abuse cases. valentino says cosby comforted her at an l.a. restaurant when she was crying over the death of her son, later gave her pills and raped her. cosby was released from prison in 2021 when pennsylvania supreme court overturned his conviction for drugging and assaulting andrea constand in 2004. nbc news has reached out to his representatives for comments on the latest suit. thousands marched in the streets of jerusalem celebrating pride amid tight security.

this is the first pride event since the religion government ascended to power five months ago. raf sanchez is covering the story for us. what are you seeing, raf? >> reporter: thousands of people have turned out for the pride event in jerusalem. while this event in tel aviv is a nonstop party, in jerusalem it's much more political. this is a conservative and religious city. people here tell us they feel the stakes have never been higher given this is the first pride under the new israeli government, which includes cabinet ministers, some of whom have a long history of homophobic rhetoric. the finance minister, one of the most senior people in government has described himself as a proud homophobe. the government says israeli remains a bastian of lgbtq rights in the middle east.

whatever the comments by individual minister, it is prime minister benjamin netanyahu is in charge here, and he will not roll back lgbtq rights in this country. this event is happening under an intense police presence. a couple of years ago, a 15-year-old girl was stabbed to death by a religious extremist with homophobic views, so there are thousands of police deployed here today to keep the crowd safe. police say they have already made a number of arrests against people who made threats. back to you. >> raf sanchez, thank you. now here in the u.s., pride month is starting as pressure is amping up on businesses that show their support for gay and transrights. several major brands from bud light to kohl's are being targeted by conservatives for lgbtq inclusive gestures. nbc's stephanie gosk has been looking into this. and some of these companies are facing boycotts, having a real

economic impact. what are you finding out? >> that's true, chris, they certainly are, and on the one hand, what you have are companies embracing pride month in a way that really ten years ago would have been unfathomable and it is a reflection of a massive culture shift in this country. but now you have this issue of transgender rights coming into pride month, and a lot of these companies embracing those rights and getting hit back pretty hard because of it. and you look at target had a whole merchandise line for president biden month. it included a transgender friendly bathing suit. and they said that in many of their stores they have taken the merchandise line and moved it to the back after a backlash threatening the safety of their employees. you had bud light that put a transgender influencer on their can and faced a boycott. their sales dropped 30%. the same thing is happening at kohl's. their line of pride merchandise includes some baby clothes with

rainbow flags on it. there have been calls for boycotts for kohl's, as well as more space, who has a transgender influencer as part of their ad campaign. i spoke with a historian at columbia university and asked him where we are today specifically on the issue of transgender rights. . where do you see, when you look at the arc of history, where do you see our point today, and where are we headed? >> so i think the big picture still, thinking about the last 50 years, is the incredible amount of progress, change, growing openness and acceptance of lgbtq people, but that itself has provoked a fierce backlash. we've seen this backlash before in the '70s, '90s, early part of the century over other issues. ultimately, i think the progress will continue. but it's still a very dangerous

moment, and the most vulnerable people in our community, transgender people, are the ones most at risk. >> reporter: what's interesting, too, chris is how recent all of this has been. when you look at in the case of northface, they had an ad campaign with a transgender woman, patty, last year, and there was no -- there was no backlash at all. this year, there are calling far boycott and there is anger. all of this really happening in the last few months, chris. >> stephanie gosk, thank you, and i just want to tell everybody to be sure to check out stephanie's story tonight on nbc news. target is one of the companies paying a steep price for pride support. jpmorgan downgraded its outlook on the retail giant. target had lost billions of dollars in market value amid a conservative backlash over lgbt products and stocks plummeted to the lowest point in years. cnbc's morgan brennan joins us for cnbc on msnbc.

these troubles just keep mounting for target. what does a downgrade mean for the company? >> hi, chris, that's right. so some of this is very company specific, and some speaks to the broader economy and concerns around the consumer. in the case of analysts at jpmorgan with the downgrade today, laying out four key reasons for this move in the stock, which as you mentioned, has seen such weakness, has been on its longest losing streak now since the last one we saw 23 years ago, a weakening consumer is to blame here. this is a dynamic that is playing across the entire retail sector, and also grocery disinflation, after two years of all of those hefty price hikes that you have seen in groceries and food and packaged goods, you're stargtd to see those flat liner in some cases even begin to fall again. loss of market share. this is a company-specific dynamic, and this speaks to that controversy about pride month displays and the possibility

that maybe now, perhaps you see that market share loss accelerate, and the number four, the resumption of student loan payments with the debt ceiling deal that's making its way through congress, those repayments are poised to start up again in cement, and analysts at jpmorgan say target has over exposure to millennial customers, and they are the one's with the lion's share of debt. it's a perfect storm. jpmorgan believes the weakness could continue through the rest of the year, through the crucial shopping seasons of the holiday season and also back-to-school, which tends to be a big ticket item. as i mentioned, it also speaks to what we're seeing play out across the retail landscape more broadly with macy's and dollar general today as well, speaking to some of the same dynamics around the consumer which is that because inflation is so high, prices have gotten so high over the last couple of years, consumers are tightening their belts, spending more on things they need, like groceries and

fore going, electronics or tvs or things for their home that maybe they bought during the pandemic, so all of this is playing into the target dynamic right now. chris. >> morgan brennan, thank you. nasa takes on ufos, what the agency now says it needs to better understand what or who is behind those mysterious objects in the sky. that's next. s objects in the sky that's nex t. (vo) this is sadie. she's on verizon. the network she can count on. and now she's got myplan. the game changing new plan that lets her pick exactly what she wants, and save on every perk. sadie's getting her plan ready for a big trip. travel pass, on. nice iphone 14 pro! cute couple. trips don't last forever. neither does summer love. so, sadie's moving on. apple music? check. introducing myplan. the first and only unlimited plan to give you exactly what you want, so you only pay for what you need. and get iphone 14 pro on us when you switch. it's your verizon. (tap, tap) listen, your deodorant just has to work. i use secret aluminum free. just swipe and it lasts all day.

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>> reporter: in a historic meeting wednesday, nasa scientists dove head first into the other worldly universe of ufos. in the four-hour meeting, the panelists commissioned in june of 2022 analyzed and spoke about the more than 800 cases of uaps they're looking into. the need to stop making fun of ufo research, and more importantly to start collecting better data on the far out subject. >> without sufficient data, we are unable to reach defendable conclusions that meet the high scientific standards for resolution. >> reporter: the panel has created a road map for nasa to categorize the growing number of what they are calling anomalous phenomena. up to 5% of cases remain a mystery. >> in order to do science with these things, we've got to get our own data. >> adam frank is an astro physicist. >> being able to talk about this without being made fun of, step two, getting good data, and step three, maybe we'll have an answer. >> we need to start watching the skies, and then we'll be in a

position to, you know, to begin to say whether or not there's anything actually unusual here, and whether there's anything that even goes beyond human physics. >> within the last year, congress has held two hearings on ufos and separate from nasa, the pentagon has created an apartment, all domain anomaly resolution office to study unexplained sightings. >> this is a newly released video. you'll notice there are two dots moving back and forth. >> reporter: and even with a growing focus on the unknown, nasa cautions. >> there's no guarantee that all sightings will be explained. >> reporter: gadi schwartz, nbc news. >> that does it for us this hour. "katy tur reports" starts right now. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. there's new reporting that could be a big help to the special counsel in its investigation into donald trump.