there's an app that's been going on for a while that will map open shelters. what changed today is that on that app, you can report that a shelter is closed. >> molly hunter in kyiv, thank you so very much. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on twitter and instagram. watch highlights from today's show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," donald trump defiantly responds to multiple reports that special counsel jack smith has an audio recording showing he was aware he did not have the legal right to declassify or disclose secret documents after he left office. >> do you know who this may be with? >> i don't know anything about it. all i know is this. everything i did was right.

this is a disgrace that they are looking at this stuff. there was nothing done wrong, nothing whatsoever. >> new reporting from "the washington post" details a widening investigation in fulton county, georgia, into alleged election interference by mr. trump, broadening into other states and washington, d.c. this hour, ron desantis wraps up his first campaign tour of the early states in south carolina today, after trading political jabs with donald trump on the campaign trail. >> when i heard desanctimonious talk about eight years -- we can turn this around so quickly. >> anyone that tells you i will be done in one day or six months, you know, they are selling you a bill of goods. president biden prepares for his first oval office address tonight after the senate worked through the night and overcomes legislative hurdles to pass the

debt ceiling bill and get it to his desk, delivering a bit political win for the president and speaker mccarthy. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. jack smith appears to be moving closer to completing his investigation into former president trump's handling of classified information after leaving office. in a fox news town hall last night, mr. trump strongly denying any knowledge of a july 2021 recording, now in the hands of federal prosecutors, where he discusses a classified planning document related to iran. the recording was made by a trump aide assigned to record book interviews as the former president was talking to writers working on an autobiography of mark meadows. laura jarrett reporting that prosecutors have closed the case involving class fried documents found at former vice president

indiana's home. announced, they will not bring charges against mike pence. when am i going to be fully exonerated? i'm at innocent as he is. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard in iowa, nbc senior legal correspondent laura jarrett and mary mccord, former acting security general at the department of justice. laura, you broke the story earlier today. you are breaking news that the mike pence documents case is closed. apparently, he handled the documents differently than former president trump, from everything we know. >> that is true. it stands in stark contrast, those two situations. the department is not commenting on why exactly the investigation has ended. i have confirmed that doj's national security division sent the former vice president's lawyer a letter, a brief letter

just yesterday, informing them that the investigation had been completed and that it would be ended without any charges being sought. the political and legal ramifications of this are noteworthy for pence, who is expected to announce his candidacy for president officially, even though we had known he was going to. he is officially supposed to announce next week. to have this cloud that had been over him for months, is obviously something that his camp is telling me they are pleased by. >> to vaughn. last night in iowa we heard the pushback when mr. trump was discussing legal problems, including jack smith's classified documents investigation. it was a town hall with sean hannity. no follow-up questions on this point. >> reporter: right. he said that he did not know about this particular document that the recording suggests he was alluding to and potentially

had in his possession. this iran-related document is at the heart of this investigation. you are talking about the former president acknowledging that he had classified material and, one, that potentially had broad implications, national security implications if any other eyes were laid on it. i think it's important to note, it was the town hall earlier this month in which he was asked, did anybody see any of these classified documents, and he said, quote, not really. what this recording now suggests is that this is a much deeper conversation than the former president is allowing the american public to be privy to. yesterday, sean hannity did not ask a single follow-up question when he deied doing anything wrong. at the heart of the question here, which laura is getting to, is that mike pence worked with the department of justice to open up his home and turn over

all relevant documents. the issue here with the department of justice and donald trump is that two-month period of time in which a lawyer for donald trump signed off that all the relevant documents had been turned over to the government. two months later that search warrant was executed. they found more than 100 classified documents. the question that we as the american public do not have the answer to, and perhaps the special counsel has, is what was in the documents, who may have seen them outside of donald trump and was there intentional negligence or the movement of documents so as to retain them and not turn them over to the government as his lawyer had suggests he had done in june? >> laura, there's new reporting in "the washington post" that the georgia probe into alleged election interference by former president trump has broadened to include activities in washington, d.c. and several other states, and that this could be folded into some kind

of a state racketeering legal case. can you explain? >> yes. it's important to note that is separate from everything we have been talking about as it relates to classified documents. some of these probes are overlapping, which makes it interesting for prosecutors. but perhaps hard for the american public to follow. obviously, jack smith, the special counsel in washington, d.c., is also interested in the former president's efforts to cling to power. at the same time, you have a state prosecutor in georgia who has been looking for some time into his efforts in georgia to block the certification of the election and different efforts he undertook. one of the things that this "washington post" report raises is the idea that he actually commissioned two outside firms to look at votr fraud. they turned up nothing. then they tried to bury that evidence. it turns out georgia investigators are interested in that and could be widening it beyond georgia into washington, d.c. and to other states. it's notable that the georgia

rico statute that the d.a. is an expert in, if you will -- she mentioned it before as something she charged defendants with -- it allows a broader scope of certain acts to come in than the federal statute. she might have potentially a broader reach than, say, jack smith would under the federal statute. we will have to wait and see what she comes up with. it's an interesting side note to note that she's looking into it, and it could be grounds for the former president to challenge it if he thinks this is beyond her scope, beyond what she's allowed to do legally. >> mary, let's talk about the time frame here. you have got the d.a. in georgia twice pushing back, which she said were going to be imminent indictment indictments, perhaps in deference to the federal probes going first. you have the justice department precedent, not a law, not to pursue these cases in the middle

of a campaign. when does it get too close to a campaign? it's heating up. he is a candidate. >> right. like you said, there's guidance, there's policy within the department of justice not to take any kind of actions in an investigation that would cause someone to question whether they might be taken in order to influence a campaign or election, because our presidential election starts so early, that really gives a very big window that the department of justice tries to avoid, if possible. i would say in this matter, i don't think it's realistic to think that doj would avoid, from here on out through the 2024 election, taking any kind of legal action against trump or those in his inner circle because of that policy. that policy is roughly a 60-day policy. even still here, i think it's quite likely that we will see action on the mar-a-lago

investigation in the coming days or weeks, the january 6 investigation by jack smith is a little slower, but i think it's possible we will see action by the end of the summer. and georgia might have a decision by august or early september. the problem then is you are going to potentially have a lot of cases trying to get through trial before the election. that's why i think it could get complicated. i think this summer is sort of a safe area for the department of justice to act. i think most of the judges in d.c., if there are indictments brought, one or more in d.c. on federal cases, i think the judges will try to move those along quickly. >> mary, thank you so much. thanks, of course, to laura jarrett and vaughn. catch more of mary's analysis on the latest episode of the prosecuting donald trump podcast which she co-hosts along with a fellow legal analyst, andrew weissmann. the victory lap.

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peter, it looked to me -- they confirmed it -- that there was a sandbag there. it was a windy day. it was holding down the teleprompter stands. clearly not well placed. >> reporter: yes, let's start there. the white house, the president got back to the white house late last night. he joked with reporters as he jogged his way into the residence after disembarking marine 1. the president said he was, quote, sandbagged. it was not a pretty scene. it's an unpleasant thing to fall. that didn't look like a very good one. white house aides indicate that the president is just fine. most importantly, we are told at nbc news that the duty doctor had checked on him and he said he was fine. the indication, more than anything, is that he is going to progress as planned. we see no other reason why that wouldn't be the case. it does raise issues, obviously, that have gotten attention of late, related to the president's age. at 80, he is the oldest

president to serve. it underscores concerns among voters about the president's age, but the bottom line, he was on stage for a couple of hours. he shook 921 hands of the air force academy cadets. it was bad fortune that there was a teleprompter that was tethered to a sandbag that the president would trip on. the ad lib -- i'm sure it was well prepared, coming off the chopper, he said he was sandbagged. then as you said, did a little two step. let's talk about the debt ceiling. the speaker got more than 300 votes, which was extraordinary, in the house. chip roy and others are criticizing him and saying there's going to be a reckoning next week because he didn't live up to his commitments. the fact is, he rallied his caucus. the president clearly, deliberately we are told by sources -- yours, i'm sure, are the same -- that held back from

grandstanding or crowing over it because -- he wanted to give the speaker some space. >> reporter: i think you are right. the president didn't want to undercut the effort that was well under way. it was getting increasingly close to the deadline of monday for the potentially catastrophic default. the white house really didn't say a lot publically about this, certainly not through the president. they let the negotiations happen largely behind closed doors. it does put sort of a new sense of impact behind what we will hear from the president tonight as he speaks for the first time from the oval office. the last time there was an oval office address was former president trump during the start of covid in march of 2020. hard to believe that that's more than three years ago. last night's vote was critical. it was 63-36. the numbers do tell a pretty big story here. 31 of no votes coming from republicans. just five from democrats. the real frustrations among

democrats that they had been taken hostage, progressive democrats feeling like that was the circumstance here. for the president, this is something he is more familiar with, trying to work in a bipartisan fashion, even under the least of desirable circumstances. i think that's what you are going to hear from him tonight is about how the situation could have been much worse, how much he did to protect some of his key achievements in the first couple years he was in office. he will note broadly how the economy right now is still doing very well. the 339,000 additional job hirings last month alone. that does put more pressure on the fed whether they will raise interest rates, if not this month, perhaps later in the summer. >> the rating agencies stood pat. they didn't downgrade, despite the messiness of this. one of the agencies said they remain on negative watch. >> reporter: that's exactly right. >> we will have to see what the fallout is with both wings of the party. the center held. peter alexander, thank you so

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today after visiting iowa and new hampshire this week. he has a rally in gilbert, south carolina, this hour as a new feud has opened up between him and donald trump over just who could get things done more quickly if elected. desantis making the point trump could only serve for four years, prompting mr. trump to hit back yesterday. >> when i heard desanctimonious talk about eight years. you don't need eight years. you need six months. we can turn this thing around so quickly. if you need eight years, who the hell wants to wait eight years? you don't need eight years. >> do you think it's a mistake for former president trump to say he can turn around the united states in six months? >> don't let anybody tell you they can do this in six months. >> joining me now dasha burns in gilbert, south carolina. this has entered its second day

over who can get it all done, whatever it all is, more quickly. >> reporter: yeah. they have been fighting over how long it could take to turn the country over. they have been fighting over whose covid response was better. fighting over disney. fighting over the pronunciation of the governor's name. you name it. this has been a big shift for governor desantis on the campaign trail. he has been more direct in how he has been taking on the former president. prior to this week, he hadn't taken him on by name in this way. that changed now that he is a candidate. when i talked to voters here, they are not thrilled to see the back and forth. many say they do understand that that is part of the game of politics. i want you to hear one couple i talked to here, caroline and vince elliott. they encapsulate a lot of what i see at these events. they are a married couple but

view things differently. take a listen. >> i'm sort of leaning like 50/50 right now. i watched him last night on tv. he told me how he can handle situations when he comes back into office and have it done in six months. things like that speaks volumes to me. >> reporter: do you believe he could turn things around in six months? >> i do. >> i think he has good ideas. i think that -- everybody hates him. he is doing something for us. but i don't think he can get it done. there's too much against him. >> reporter: the other thing that vince told me that i hear from a lot of voters is he believes desantis could do all of the things that trump can do but without the baggage. it was the message that desantis really wants to get across to voters in these critical early days. >> dasha burns in south

carolina. joining us now, brendan buck, former communications advisor to speakers ryan and boehner, erin haines and mark murial. he is the former mayor of new orleans. good to see you. brendan, to you. two frontrunners with vastly different polling right now. a frontrunner and a challenger, you could say, sparring over term limits and name pronunciations. this was desantis' first big week of campaigning. where do you think they stand as far as talking about what voters care about? >> is that for me? >> i was talking to brendan. i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry, andrea. i apologize. i was struck by the man we interviewed there talking about how everybody hates him, so he

has to be doing something right. that speaks to what republican base voters actually care about. it's that culture war. it's that, are you a fighter? it's us versus them. that's the thing that ron desantis needs to prove more than anything. it's less about issues. it is his willingness to stand up to donald trump. for weeks and months, donald trump has been pummeling ron desantis. he has not responded. the polls have slipped for him. we are starting to finally see him realize he needs to punch back, be shown as a fighter. he needs to take away the rationale for anybody else to get in the race. people are jumping in because they see ron desantis as potentially weak and maybe not the alternative. if ron desantis can show that he is willing to stand up to donald trump, he is going to do it and could be effective at it, i think he can consolidate that anti-trump vote and pose a threat to him. this is just getting started. his willingness to be a fighter

is a big part of that. >> you know what's so remarkable, if i could follow up, it's that he was the president of the united states for four years, yet he is still viewed as an outsider, a fighter, an anti-establishment guy when he ran the government. desantis was trying to prove he is a fighter by taking on disney. he has to go after trump. he is running against trump, not disney. right? >> yeah. it's all about who your enemies are. ron desantis ran an ad where the thing was just how he fights with the media. if you are unpopular with the media, therefore you must be good. of course, donald trump is still an outsider. he was president, but he is unlike anything we have seen. i don't think he will ever fit the normal mode. ron desantis needs to prove that. republican-base voters do not want anything to do with anyone who is part of the establishment. being a governor, that's where you typically fall in the range of politics. you get tagged as being

establishment. ron desantis has been acting very differently than your normal governor for a long time. i think that's been core to his brand. it worked for him in florida. the question is whether it's enough to work nationally to overtake someone who has come to define shaking up the establishment as his entire being. that's, of course, donald trump. >> erin, let's talk about abortion. it's more -- here is the question. desantis flouted florida's six-week ban. in iowa this week. avoided that subject in new hampshire for obvious reasons. trump says the candidates need to talk about exceptions to bans. where do they divide here? abortion is certainly in the election with republican women, with independent women, suburban women. how much is a big issue in the republican base in the primaries? >> yeah, andrea, to your point, abortion was on the ballot in

the 2022 midterm elections. democrats had a lot of success having abortion on the ballot. you do have former president trump saying republicans may have gone too far in the wake of the dobbs decision and were being cast as extreme to some success before the opposing party. i think that voters are going to be looking to hear clear stances on the republican side in terms of these candidates' positions on abortion. you have not necessarily heard candidates being clear on where they are. tim scott still is struggling with this question, nikki haley still struggling with this question. it will be interesting to see where former vice president pence and chris christie, who are both expected to enter the race in the coming days, where they land on this position. i think whether these candidates want to talk about it or not, i think it's something voters are

going to continue to inquire about. i think that it's something that we as the political journalism class will continue to ask these candidates about. >> mark, let's drill down on governor desantis. he is hitting back at the naacp after they issued a florida travel advisory saying desantis was trying to, quote, erase black history and restrict diversity. here is desantis responding to the naacp on fox news last week, a talking point he used this week in new hampshire. >> we have school choice. that's one of the reasons why our black students perform as high as just about any black students in the country. you go to baltimore or chicago, some of the kids are more likely to get shot than have a high quality education. i don't hear the naacp talking about that. >> what's your response to that, mark? >> he is a history suppresser.

he is a voter suppresser. his effort to distract the issue into discussion of school choice misses the point that he has been a book banner and a black history suppresser and a voter suppresser. that is his record. while that talking point may work with some elements of the republican primary base, the more he acts that way, the more he emphasizes those issues, he loses one of the points he is trying to make which is i'm more electable in a general election. he seems like he is trying to become the new trump or trumpish. that is not what will make him a better general election candidate. his actions in suppressing black history and in opposing ap black history is so offensive to me and so offensive to so many of us, it's not only shocking and

surprising, he literally has made himself in many respects a 21st century george wallace. he is blocking the doors to libraries, to the legitimacy of african american contributions to this country. it's offensive. it's racist. it's backward leaning. it's not the 21st century. >> you have nine democratic governors now writing a letter to the largest textbook publishers urging them not to give in to the pressure. this is what we have seen in texas and other states as well. >> you know, the important thing about it is, censorships sound like north korea, sound like russia, sound like totalitarian

regimes, no matter whether we agree or disagree what's in a book, then we have always honored in this country the marketplace of discussion, the marketplace of ideas and to place the official sanction on the state on the suppression of history is anti-american. period, full stop. i think it's the right -- [ inaudible ] that campaign will push back on whether it's a governor of a state or an activist or whomever it may be against this effort to suppress the history of black people today. who else will it be tomorrow? it's not american. >> brendan, erin, mark. mark, congratulations on 20 years with the urban league. thanks to all of you. the terrifying obstacle that ukrainians faced in the middle

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thousands of kyiv residents rushed to shelter in subway stations. outside a health clinic, a downed missile killed three people. this man says his wife was trying to get into the shelter, but it was locked. the person tasked with opening the shelter allegedly did not come to unlock the doors. city officials say a criminal investigation is underway. a mother and child were killed there. the grandfather mourning next to the 9-year-old's body. molly hunter is in kyiv. also with us is the ukraine bureau chief for "the washington post." welcome both. molly, first to you. it's been an awful week in kyiv. how are people holding up? what about the locked subway station, the shelter? >> reporter: it's been a particularly brutal week here. it feels different. i've been in the country for three weeks now. it feels different than last week, feels very different in

the capital than the week before. people feel a danger when those air raid sirens go off, which is different than before. the people i have spoken to now feel like they have to get down to a shelter. they need to find shelter, whether it's a rare daytime attack or during the evening. there's trust in the ukrainian air defenses. what we have seen this week is when they work, when those interceptions happen, the debris and fragments can be deadly. the attack yesterday, we went to that scene. it's an apartment complex just around a health clinic. what we heard from residents is that was the most reliable shelter in the area. not all buildings had basements. there was one person that always opens it. he has the keys. he didn't open it. police are patrolling shelters. there's an app which has been around for a while. it maps open shelters. starting today, you can say whether a shelter is closed. i do want to bring you up to date -- i think we have video.

we went down 25 kilometers from bakhmut to meet with ukrainian troops trained by u.s. troops in germany. they were trained on anti-tank weaponry. we have been talking about the new u.s. military aid package this week. number one on that package, air defense systems. they talked about how valuable their training was, how important the investment was. they were trained on anti-tank weapons, other american equipment. they said they still text and communicate with their u.s. trainers back in germany, not just encouragement, but tactical battlefield advice, which i thought was interesting. >> indeed. today secretary of state blinken in helsinki was warning against any pressure on ukraine to agree to a cease-fire before russia withdraws. here is what he had to say. >> the united states, together with our allies and partners, is

firmly committed to supporting ukraine's defense today, tomorrow, for as long as it takes. and in america, this support is bipartisan. precisely because we have no illusions about putin's aspirations, we believe the prerequisite for real peace is a stronger ukraine, capable of deterring and defending against any future aggression. >> the secretary seems to be speaking to some of the european partners, as well as some in congress who are pressing -- and china, of course, pressing for peace talks before there's signal that vladimir putin is ready for peace talks. >> yeah. i think there's some nervousness within nato about what's next. what is the end of this? there's a lot of pressure on this coming counteroffensive we have heard from ukrainian officials, from western officials. maybe some expectations that have gotten too high.

a belief that we should get to the table or we should force the parties to the table, rather, as soon as this is over and ukraine can get as much territory as it's going to get. i think now you have some in nato, the baltics, eastern european countries who are trying to pump the brakes on that and saying we need to show a longer term commitment. who knows how this counteroffensive that hasn't started will go. >> they want to make sure they get the territory back, that at least russia withdraws. we're not talking about crimea, that russia withdraws from what it has taken since february. it's good to see you here. safe travels on your return when you go back. >> thank you. >> to molly, thanks to you as well many. my interview with the u.s. ambassador to germany, her family survived the holocaust. the emotional reconciliation efforts she's leading amid a rise in anti-semitism around the world. that's next on "andrea mitchell

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power. i joined her this week. she's working to stop anti-semitism. it has been surging in europe and in the u.s. in the hills of bavaria, a small german town. for 800 years, home to a jewish community who owned homes, ran businesses, built a synagogue. how wonderful is it to be here, in the town where your father and grandparents, generations lived? >> it's amazing. and emotional. to be here where my father and my grandparents and his siblings lived and had to flee. >> the u.s. ambassador to germany, the first american ambassador here whose family were holocaust survivors. now invited by the current mayor to return. >> if we want to assume

responsibility and ensure that we never see such injustice again, it is imperative that we remember. >> as a memorial, these cobblestones inscribed with the names of her family were placed in front of the family's former home and store, now a bookstore. 100,000 of these have been created for holocaust victims in 30 european countries, by an artist whose father fought for nazi germany in the war. jewish families have been living in this whose father fought for jewish families have been living in the town since the 13th century. but since the anti-jewish riots in 1937 and '38 they were all forced out, many to the death camps. >> gutman's immediate family got out in time, but two of her uncles were sent, they survived. >> you don't mince words when you talk about the trauma and horror of the pasts for the citizens of this town.

>> i have to be really honest about this. we're still seeing so many horrors of anti-semitism in the world, and it was one of the places where naziism thrived. >> in 1933, 70% of the people here voted for adolf hitler, and the nazi mayor led the burning of the synagogue in 1938. >> why is it so important for the people in this small town and in germany to remember what the nazis did and to remember the holocaust? >> if they didn't think back and remember, there's no way we could say never again. i also have to say personally, it just means so much to me and my family to be able to come back here and realize that the country my father fled is now working with us to combat anti-semitism. >> where the synagogue once

stood, there's now a museum with an exhibit on the town's jewish life. >> this is my grandma -- >> and the ambassador has come full circle, able to retrieve a part of her family's history she had never known. the german government says there were more than 3,000 anti-semitic crimes in the country in 2021. that's according to the most recent report. that's a 29% increase over the previous year. similar to the trend here in the u.s. ambassador gutman is working with her german colleagues determined to reverse that trend, and joining me now is antidefamation league's ceo and national director jonathan greenblat. i know you have a team who works in germany, you are working on all of this around the world really, and i saw firsthand there's a real commitment in germany at the local level to work hand in hand with the u.s. to combat anti-semitism. how important is this global effort to stamp out hate, especially right now in pittsburgh, you know, this trial goes on with the worst crime,

the worst crime of anti-semitism in the united states' history. >> that's right. i mean, this is sort of a grim week because we're remembering through that trial that most violent anti-semitic attack in u.s. history where 11 people were killed. let's talk about germany. first of all, your piece was incredibly powerful, and amy gutman, ambassador gutman is real leader. this resonates for me, my grandfather is a holocaust survivor from germany, and i've walked cobblestone streets like you and amy myself and seen that police where there are no more jews, and the truth is what's happened in germany both shows us how a country can, you know, go to the bottom and yet come out. i mean, the nation has reconciled itself to the horrors of its past, and through remembrance, activities like you showed in your piece has demonstrated how moral leadership can move a community and a country forward. you know, adl recently did one

of our annual polls on anti-semitic attitudes in europe. we released it this week, andrea, and in europe overall, one out of four europeans still hold extensive anti-semitic attitudes. but in germany, it's only one out of ten. so it shows us how attitudes and education and remembrance can help create safer spaces for jews. there were still some 3,000 incidents as you reported, but what germany has done is what the rest of europe and the world needs to do to ensure indeed never again really holds meaning. >> and what we've seen here in the u.s., jonathan, is there's a nexus between white nationalism, anti-semitism and some of the mass shootings, we saw the mass shooting in -- the accused mass shooter in allen, texas, who had swastikas tattooed on his chest, and it wasn't a shooting, but the man who drove into lafayette

park across from the white house unfurled a nazi flag across from the white house of the united states. so there is this, you know, growing violence that chris wray and the fbi have talked about that does have a strong anti-semitic tone. >> very important point, so right wing extremism and all kinds of extremism, with whether you say you hate the jewish people or you hate the jewish state, you hate the zionists, however you choose to describe it, let's acknowledge that extremists center the jews as the evil force behind all of the world's misfortunes. the anecdote you just shared, allen, texas, that was a hispanic man with a swastika tattooed on his chest, and the incident in lafayette square, that was a man of south asian descent. all right? who again had a swastika flag

that he unfurled, and he said he was a fan of adolf hitler and admired the furer, so how do they share the same -- spew the same poison as white supremacists do? it's because conspiracy theories are rooted in anti-semitism at its core, so this is an ideology that isn't about politics. it isn't about religion. it isn't about ethnicity, it's about hate, which is why it's not just a jewish issue, it's everyone's problem. >> i'm so glad you said that. we're going to have to leave it there, but to be continued. thank you so much for everything you're doing, and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." have a wonderful weekend. follow us online on facebook and on twitter @mitchell reports. and tune in for "inside with jen psaki" this sunday. "chris jansing reports" starts right after a short break.

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