it comes on the 20th anniversary of the mars express mission. that was launched in 2003 to better understand the planet and also search for traces of water. that is awesome. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday right here on msnbc. that's going to do it for me today. have a great weekend, everybody. our coverage continues from yasmin vossoughian right now. hey, everybody, i'm yasmin vossoughian in for my friend, katy tur. petty. that is how florida governor desantis is characterizing president trump. desantis parked a giant campaign bus outside one of the president's campaign events in iowa to trump mocking the

pronunciation of desantis' last name to desantis zeroing in on trump only serving a single term. >> when i heard desanctus go out and talk about eight years, we need eight years. you don't need eight years, you need six months. we can turn this thing around so quickly. if you need eight years, who the hell wants to wait eight years? you don't need eight years. i'll have it turned around and i think flow turned around. >> i said to tame the deep state you need two terms. he's not going to be able to nix the deep state in six months. he had four years, he didn't make a dent in it, give me a break. >> while a lot of attention is on the front-runners, the gop field is getting bigger. remember, mike pence, chris christie are set to jump in next week. how could this steady stream of entries shake things up and how much do the polls even matter this early in the game? joining me now in south

carolina, dasha burns, vaughn hillyard and also politico white house correspondent eugene daniels as well. dasha, i know you're in the car making your way between events. you've been speaking to south carolina voters throughout the day. what have they been telling you? >> reporter: hey, yasmin. yeah, we are driving from one part of south carolina. we were in the lexington area for one of the governor's events now headed to the greenville area. you know the drill well chasing candidates around these critical early primary states. i'm going to introduce you to a couple, the elelliotts, vince a caroline. they are pretty representative of what i've been hearing at these events. one is pretty committed to desantis, the other not so sure yet. take a listen to what they told me. >> i'm sort of leaning like 50-50 right now because i watched him last night on tv. he told me how he can handle situations when he comes back into office and have it done in

six months. things like that speaks volumes to me. >> reporter: do you believe that, he could turn things around in six months? >> i do. >> reporter: vince, do you buy that he can turn things around in six months? >> no, i don't. i think he's got some good ideas and i think that he -- everybody hates him. i think desantis can do everything that trump can do but do it in a way that's going to -- the whole country can get behind him. >> reporter: they call themselves a house divided right now. what you just heard from vince there saying that desantis can do everything that trump can do but without sort of the drama. the word baggage comes up with voters a lot when it comes to the former president. and that is what the desantis team is really pouncing on, to sort of illustrate for voters and make the case that desantis is a conservative candidate who can sort of sell the voters on all of those policies that they liked from the trump years, but

without the sort of day-to-day chaos that reigned over that administration. i'm sure the desantis campaign is happy to hear the voters reflect that. of course they still have a lot more work to do with folks like caroline, who are not yet convinced that they want to jump ship from the trump campaign. >> fun fact, you are headed to greenville, south carolina. i was a reporter in greenville, south carolina, many, many years ago so i know that area quite well. it's a beautiful place. vaughn, talk to us. iowa, we've got a lot of events this weekend, a major fund-raiser as well. what are the expectations there? >> reporter: right. greenville i'll echo you is a wonderful place. des moines will be the place politically to be tomorrow because you're going to see the whole lineup of the gop field. you're going to see ron desantis, you're going to see vivek, tim scott, nikki haley, mike pence, asa hutchinson.

all of those will be at joni ernst's roast and ride. the one candidate not here is donald trump. i also want to loop in a little bit of breaking news here just in the last few minutes, yasmin, as to why an event like tomorrow is especially important. it's because there's new debate qualification rules that just came out from the republican national committee here. we're looking at the first gop debate now formally taking place august 23rd. less than three months from now. an event like tomorrow is crucial for the likes of these other candidates, like asa hutchinson and even nikki haley. there's rules and requirements they meet a certain donor threshold and they also have to also meet certain polling standards by the time of that debate in order to qualify for the stage. so we're talking about the iowa caucus eight months out and i think the conversation should be over the next two and a half months who's going to qualify

for the debate stage is going to be a really good stomping ground for a lot of these candidates. >> eugene, weigh in on this. we've been talking about this back and forth when it comes to the former president and ron desantis. the two at the top tier of the polling. again, we need to reiterate, at this point back in 2015, the former president hadn't even entered the race. we're a couple of weeks away from that. all of that is relative and we need to keep that in mind when we have these conversations. but it seems as if desantis is zeroing in on how he's going after the former president and donald trump is throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. >> donald trump has done this before. he can throw all the negative spaghetti at a wall to see what is actually going to work on some of these candidates. there's a lot of insinuations so voters can make up their own mind but understand that donald trump is saying something negative. they don't know what it means. yesterday he was calling ada hutchinson instead of asa

hutchinson but won't say why. things like that where voters have to make up their own mind. but you still see ron desantis even without saying donald trump's name. republican strategists are still waiting for him to do that. i don't know how much it matters when he's actually attacking him. but he is zeroing in on the losing aspect, talking about getting rid of this cultural losing for republicans. that is something that when you talk to voters is hitting home. they are understanding and also saying if you can't actually win, it doesn't matter how angry you are or how tough our or how tough you seem, if you're not winning and can't get in the white house, it doesn't matter. when you look at the polling, you're right, we are so far out. there are so many twists and turns that this election will bring us not to mention the legal woes that donald trump finds himself in, there are so many things that could actually change. the number on your screen, you really want to be donald trump and ron desantis. that is a large space that he

will have to make up. he will have to do it quickly with a lot of other folks attacking him as well on the debate stage. >> i think it's fascinating looking at abortion politics and how they're handling this, eugene. it's not just between republicans and democrats on abortion politics. we've talked about this numerous times. but within the republican party. you had desantis in new hampshire with more moderate electorate not even mentioning the six-week abortion ban that he enacted. but then he went to other states in which he had a more conservative electorate and he touted his six-week abortion ban, trying to kind of dance around his view on abortion, depending on who he's talking to. >> yeah, because the republicans know that the politics around abortion are much more complicated than they probably anticipated before roe v. wade came down, before it was overturned with dobbs.

so now you see all of -- you saw donald trump basically saying i'll strike a deal on abortion that's better for the most amount of people. you have pence and tim scott, the senator from south carolina, saying that they're going to be basically as conservative as you possibly can be when it comes to abortion. so they're all over the place. watching how the electorate in -- when you're with these conservative folks, they're very excited to get rid of and have the least abortion in this country as possible. but then when you talk to women, when they start talking to women in virginia, suburban white women who are also a very important electorate for both democrats and republicans, that's where you're going to start seeing the issue and where they're going to have to make some decisions about how far right they're willing to go in this primary on abortion when the democrats are ready to make it a huge issue for them in the general election. >> i just want to show folks as we're talking about this

polling, let's look back to june of 2015. look at this, jeb bush was leading 22%. look at where donald trump was. he had 1% in this poll back in june of 2015. that is where we are, folks. when we say things could change dramatically, we know from the reality of life and elections as we've seen in the past that things can change dramatically. eugene daniels, thank you. vaughn hillyard, dasha burns, thank you guys as well. i'll bow talking to you throughout the weekend. mike pence is cleared in the doj's investigation of classified documents found at his home. why the circumstances around donald trump's classified docs investigation are very, very different. plus, despite president biden's criticism of the policy as criminal, the doj is defending the legality of the trump administration's family separations at the southern border. we're going to explain. and what to expect from president biden when he takes his prime time victory lap over the debt ceiling bill tonight. we are back in just 60 seconds. s

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welcome back, everybody. the justice department has officially closed its classified documents investigation into former vice president mike pence. joining me now is nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett with more on this. what more do we know? >> no charges for mike pence, which is somewhat inspected. we wondered what was going on with this investigation. it was going on since january and hadn't heard much about it. we were asking about it in recent days obviously, given what's going on with his former boss, former president, and that investigation into his handling of classified information. and i learned that just yesterday the department actually informed a lawyer for pence that the investigation was officially closed and no charges would be sought. obviously the timing of that for penc pence is noteworthy since he is going to announce his candidacy

for the presidency next week. so this is obviously welcome news for him. i'm told that he's pleased though not surprised by the news. i'm also told that he did sit down for an interview as part of this investigation before it was closed. >> let's talk about some differences here. now we have this truth social post from the former president of the united states in learning the developments of his former vice president saying just announced they are not going to bring charges against mike pence on the document hoax, that's great. but when am i going to be fully exonerated? i'm at least as innocent as he is. ands hiding at least 1,850 boxes. witch hunt against trump. of course these are all things that are alleged by the former president of the united states. nothing that has actually been verified by anybody. all that being said, talk about the major differences between what the former president is facing versus what his former vice president faced. >> the situation for trump is materially different. we are talking about a completely different type of

investigation both in the scope in that the one involving trump actually involves a special counsel. the one involving pence never did. part of the reason why might be that trump had announced his candidacy for president and the attorney general felt like it was important to show some level of even-handed treatment and that somebody else will be taking care of that. also, the number of documents for pence, we're talking about a dozen classified documents. whereas with trump we are talking about more than 300 classified documents, which he was asked to give back and didn't. they had to go get a subpoena for it. even after that, doj wasn't sure they got all the documents back. whereas pence said come on in. they had a five-hour voluntary search. completely unrestricted access. so it's a totally different set of circumstances. but you can understand why trump is using this and saying what about me. >> of course. and we had that latest reporting on the documents as well at mar-a-lago in which he said this dress rehearsal leading up to the fbi showing up at mar-a-lago to obtain those classified

documents. >> and not to mention a tape in a completely different location. >> laura jarrett as always, thank you. let's switch gears. thousands of migrant children and parents were separated at the border under a trump era rule. now attorneys from the justice department are defending it. five asylum-seeking mothers are suing the federal government for the trauma they say their families suffered because of trump's zero tolerance policy. despite president biden calling the actions criminal, the doj saying they were separated out of perceived humanitarian considerations. joining me now, julia ainsley. what's going on here? >> reporter: it's the justice department trying to remain neutral when it comes to these tort cases. but what that means is that families who were saying that they were damaged by the separation policy under trump are not able to get payments.

in fact they have been fighting those payments for a long time. there was a time where biden said that they could get hundreds of thousands of dollars. he got a lot of backlash on that. then the justice department has even fought individual tort things. what they're doing is a very lawyerly thing. they're saying these people aren't qualified to receive money because it wasn't an unlawful policy. which means they're put in the position of defending the trump administration's family separation policy. and they said, as they tried to defend this, that it was put in place for, quote, perceived humanitarian considerations. they're pulling that language from what the trump administration did at the time when they said that it was necessary to separate children in order to deter families from crossing the southern border. but it's put them in a position where they have had to go so far to defend themselves against having to pay out their money, which is arguably their job to protect the financial resources of the u.s. government. but they are defending this

policy that this administration during the campaign at least was so adamantly against. but it also raises questions about why the biden administration won't do more to hold people accountable who put this in place and won't do more to help these families. although they have done a lot to reunite the families that were separated. >> is this normal that a doj would be defending a prior administration's choices that they put in place? >> reporter: we've seen it happen before often when it comes like this case where they're trying to defend financial resources. often it may come down to a place where the doj needs to argue that the president has the authority to do one action and the president continues to have those same powers. sometimes we'll see them get boxed in on certain decisions like this. i think it really puts a spotlight on this issue and on the biden administration that hasn't gone quite as far as they said it would. they have said this was a

despicable policy. some said it was government sanctioned child abuse. why are we looking at a democratic justice department saying it was done for humanitarian considerations. it's really a head scratcher but one where the only answer could be that they have been put in this legal corner. >> it certainly is. julia ainsley, thank you for your excellent reporting on this. coming up next, what the overwhelming bipartisan support of the now passed debt ceiling deal signals about congress' ability to work together in the future. plus, the anti-lgbtq war being waged on corporate america's support of pride month. we'll be right back. s support oe month. we'll be right back. lub. who knew the subway series could get even better? me, i knew. maybe you should host a commercial then. sure, okay. subway series just keeps getting better.

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welcome back, everybody. they did it, a deal to avert a default crisis nearly complete. the senate passing the bill suspending the debt ceiling for now the legislation goes to president biden's desk and the reviews are rolling in. the president is being praised for, quote, delivering on his most farfetched promise, compromise. david ignatius making the point this is exactly what biden said he would do if elected. so why isn't the president taking a victory lap like house speaker kevin mccarthy or is that what tonight is all about? joining me is ali vitali and monica alba. monica, let me start with you. is that what tonight is about, the president addressing the nation at 7:00 p.m.? will he be taking a victory lap

and setting up his re-election bid? >> reporter: i think a victory lap is part of the goal but not the entire objective. that's because the president really wants to lay out for the american people what could have happened here and really talk about just how close the united states got here to defaulting for the first time in our history. so he's going to lay out the stakes very plainly and really talk about what could have happened in the context of this jobs report that we saw earlier today that did contain some good news. it does raise some questions about where the economy is heading, vis-a-vis interest rates and all of these other very fair questions. but overall he's going to say with the economy humming like it is right now, and he's going to argue thanks to his plans and his legislation that he's passed so far, what would have happened had there been a default. what severe economic consequences, what kind of a catastrophe would we have been talking about with recession, millions of job losses and other unknowns because he wants to remind people that it took a ton of work from the white house and

hill negotiators. but it was just with 48 hours or so to spare. i think you'll hear the president taking a little credit for what role he was able to play but he's not going to be bragging about any of this because, again, this could have been really serious had it not come together almost at the last minute here. and you do have some credit agencies saying still, like fitch, for instance, that the u.s. is on watch negative meaning the credit rating could still be downgraded so there are still some looming issues to deal with. overall i think the president is talking about this is something that he was very much campaigning on, something you can expect him to talk about in the 2024 election and something that many people he'll argue underestimate him for sometimes, which is his ability to bring both sides of the aisle together to deliver on big things at the most critical moments like this one. >> i actually think it's fascinating that's what he's going to be talking about, monica, because as we were

leading up to kind of crossing this finish line, many democratic lawmakers at the time were essentially saying the president should be doing just that to get it over the finish line. to point the finger at the republicans and say this is what will happen if we do not get a deal done. also to kind of put responsibility more on the shoulders of the republicans, but in fact he's making that speech now and tonight after getting this deal done. interesting to think about it that way. hey, ali, weigh in for me on what monica just talked about and that is this fitch rating. they're saying they're keeping the united states on this negative watch and they're saying because of this. repeated political standoffs around the debt limit and last-minute suspensions before the x date, when the treasury's cash position and extraordinary measures are exhausted. it lowers confidence in governance on fiscal and debt matters. there are real political ramifications for how our government has been dealing with this debt ceiling for the last decade or so, right?

so the question is can they stop doing this or is this just how government works now? >> reporter: yeah, look, i know that we met the deadline here and they did so early, but the way in which all of this happened doesn't exactly inspire confidence. on the one hand you could look at it as an example of divided government actually working, an instance of compromise, fine. but this is also a moment where, and many democrats would point this out. if you want a debate over spending and budget caps, do that in the fall when you're supposed to talk about funding the government. we're going to do that battle in a few months. usually debt ceilings are raised and america pays its bills, which is why i think it's notable what monica is saying, that's what biden is going to choose to remind people of. as much as it feels like funding debates are the norm up here, this was not a super normal funding debate to have because it wasn't a question of what we're going to spend, it's a question of paying for what has already been spent.

so i do think that that is important. and you do look at it through the lens of even if it's not a downgrade in this moment, the threat of one or the fact that maybe the u.s. is not trustable in paying the bills for the money that it's already spent is notable, does have consequences, and will factor into how future debt deals are done up here on the hill. i will say two things that i heard yesterday evening as people were leaving was, a, there is some unhappiness with the fact that democrats at the end of last year didn't actually just deal with the debt problem then when it wasn't divided government. that's something that i heard some griping about. and then there's the reality of they don't want to have to do this stuff in the future. the next time we're going to do a debt ceiling battle is in early 2025. but there's no agreement on how to just -- like there's no agreement in just getting rid of the debt ceiling in the u.s., despite the fact we are one of the few countries that has one, so we're going to keep doing this for the foreseeable future.

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it has been five weeks since the republican members of oregon's state senate walked out. the longest ever in state history. they say they will not come back unless proposed bills on abortion protections, gender affirming care and gun control are off the table, stalling the state's budget and hundreds of other bills before the democrat majority. now in a move oregon's democrats hopes will pressure them to return, they have proposed to fine them $350 every single day they deny it of a quorum. will it work? joining me is kate leber to talk about this. thanks for joining us. appreciate it. senator minority leader has condemned it calling it

retaliation. what is your response to that? >> well, thank you so much for having me. i really appreciate being here. it is tim knope. look, this is really about really -- if you don't come to work, you shouldn't earn a paycheck. this is about tax dollars that they did not earn. you know, this has been going on for a month. and in the constitution it says that if we don't have a quorum that we can compel lawmakers to attend and this is one of the things that we can do to compel them to attend. >> so the state senator has said they're not going to return until june 25th, the last day of the legislative session, to pass the budget and bipartisan bills that are outstanding. one of the reasons they walked out is over house bill 2002, which amongst other things would

allow someone under the age of 15 to seek out abortion care without the permission of a parent or guardian. is this something that you are willing to negotiate on? >> look, this walkout has been about abortion, gender-affirming care and reasonable gun regulations. we were elected as democrats after the fall of roe versus wade with the dobbs decision, we were elected to codify what we had enjoyed under roe for 50 years. the fact that a minority of senators can overcome the majority of oregonians will is absolutely unacceptable. this is really about democracy. if you've seen the playbook that has been sort of the national playbook, as i know that your viewers have seen over and over again on your broadcasts, this

is just another page out of the national playbook. and the real question is, are we going to continue to allow them to walk out and overcome the will of oregonians. >> so let me just push back on one thing. so are you essentially saying that you will negotiate on any of those outstanding bills they do not want to see cross the finish line? are you saying it's not negotiable? >> what i am saying is we were sent here to do exactly what these bills are asking us to do. and that is to protect abortion, to protect transgender kids and there's other bills too. here's the real problem, though, with that statement. we have been negotiating for a month. we have asked over and over again what is your wish list. not a kill list, what's your wish list. what are the things that you need for your districts. and we have consistently talked to them about that. in the end they have consistently said we want you to kill democratic priorities. and this is not the first time

in oregon. >> yeah. >> and that i think is really important to understand. we're trying to change the culture of walkouts. a small minority does not get to choose what the majority -- to overcome the will of the majority of people. the majority of people in oregon support codifying roe versus wade and that's what this bill does. >> this is the real head scratcher for me. three separate times they have had walkouts in history here, republicans. there was a ballot measure passed, 70% of oregonians, to prevent this exact thing and yet it's still happening. how does that work? >> it's a head scratcher for me too, that's what i'm going to say. look, 70% of oregonians said we do not want you to walk out. not only are they trying to subvert the will of a majority of oregonians around policy, they are subverting the will of the majority of oregonians who

said we don't want you to walk out. we want you to stay and do your job. what staying and doing your job means is you come to work, you go to the floor of the senate, you debate bills. if you vote no, that's okay. that's called democracy. but they really -- this really is about democracy and the will of the minority trying to overcome the will of the majority. >> state senator kate lieber, woe appreciate you joining us. we wish you the best of luck. i know it's an uphill battle you have ahead of you, for thank you for that. new attacks and a barrage of shelling in kyiv. we'll go live to ukraine. plus, amidst all of the warnings about ai, now some good news about what the technology could mean for our workforce. we'll explain that, next. d meane we'll explain that, next

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last few days as this barrage of missiles has continued to pound kyiv. what's going on there? bring us up to date. >> reporter: yeah, yasmin. look, this week has been the deadliest week in the last month. we have talked about the 17 different waves of missile strikes. it happens almost every other night. this past week was particularly busy. but you just mentioned the story that is rocking the city, that has rattled even this capital city. they are used to the missile attacks, they are used to going to air raid shelters. but the story yesterday, i'm going to bring you up to date because we did go to that scene. it's an apartment complex, it's a neighborhood. it's in kyiv about 20 minutes from where i am. the apartment buildings are around a health clinic. that health clinic has a shelter and it's the most reliable shelter in the neighborhood. most residents told us their buildings don't have basements so when that goes off, that's where they go. one guy is responsible for opening that shelter and for whatever reason, it didn't

happen. and so what happened is that groups of people, a group of people rushed to that shelter and were banging on the door. >> my gosh. >> reporter: according to the husband of one of the women that died. banging on the door to get in. he went to get help. when he ran to get help, and you hear sirens that are happening right now. this has happened several times when we've been talking this past week. he ran to get help and then heard the crash. the other extraordinary thing about this story, between the sirens and the fragment of the missile that fell, four minutes. four minutes to get out of your apartment, to grab your 9-year-old child, to get downstairs and get her to safety. the picture that breaks my heart, and we've been looking at and it's on all the social media channels and the cover of the newspaper here is that grandfather sitting next to the body of his 9-year-old. but that is the story that has taken this week, even after a very deadly week. >> heartbreaking. molly hunter for you. i know those air raid sirens are continuing to go off.

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walked off the job. this is not a quote/unquote, formal strike but they refused to show up for assignments. thank you for jumping on this. we appreciate it. what is the impact so far? what is the standoff mean? >> what's happening is that the union workers, select union workers, largest union. union 13. for the ilwu. the workers are not showing up. that means that they don't have enough workers to work the terminals, therefore, the terminals have to shut down due to insufficient labor. so the product is not moving. you're looking at $150 billion alone of trade that moved in four months out of the port of los angeles. they're experiencing several terminals right now that are closing. i spoke with truckers that said that they're being turned away.

now, a little bit further with california, you have oakland. they're totally shut down. and so, that's been going on since early this morning. and then down in further south in california where a lot of the automobiles come in, that port is closed. so, what happens with trade is, if you have a backlog, so to speak, it takes longer to move that backlog. and the good news is on fridays, it tends to be a lighter day, if you want to call it that in terms of movement of trade. if we're still talking about a delay on monday, we're going to have a much bigger problem. >> sounds like the conversations happening over the trading standoff as well many, many months ago. thank you for jumping on. this we'll keep our eye on this throughout the weekend. so, it's looking like the white house has something to be happy about today. a better than expect jobs report from the department of labor.

u.s. employers add third down 339,000 jobs in the month of may. that doubled the number predicted by analysts. unemployment rate taking 3.7%. joining us more to talk about this nbc business reporter, unemployment taken up as well. take us through it and what it means. >> there are a lot of numbers to unpack. let's rehash what we're looking at. 339,000, that's how many jobs were added in may. interestingly, above the pace of 294,000 that we saw in the month of april. but as you noted, the unemployment rate actually went up to 3.7% from 3.4% in the prior month. how do the things square? why is it that we saw this big number but the unemployment rate went up. they come from different surveys. the unemployment rate is those working or not working. they ring people's houses, what is the status of your

employment? but this number comes from a establishment survey. they interview potential hirers and companies over how many people they staffed over may. that may explain the discrepancies. they're trying to figure out why there is such a big gap there. interesting to see that on the top line. again, a lot of jobs added in may. >> okay. jerome powell, take a look at. this that is always the question when the jobs report comes out. and what do they do with interest rates? how is the economy recovering? what direction are we headed in from this standpoint? >> the number i got for you is about wage growth. if i skip over here to the average hourly earnings growth this is a figure that jerome powell is looking at, 4.3%. p that is how much people are making in may compared to may have last year. that is the slower pace than the 4.4%. >> but that is negligible. >> certainly. they're saying our interest rate hikes may be working, but here's the reason why they're not working. 4.9%. that is the rate of inflation.

things are getting more expensive at a faster pace than the wages are rising. that is eroding that income. that is why the fed may have to continue to hike interest rates to try to slow those things down. hopefully get this number down faster than they get this number down. >> the whied is once we hit pint where wage growth is higher than inflation, at that point he can say, okay, we can stop increasing the interest rates? is it as simple as that? >> it is. but there is a lag effect. that's what the federal reserve wants. this he could do interest rate hikes and it's next meeting in two weeks. it may take six months for that impact to be felt on these numbers. the fed's got to make sure they time it right. it's not instantaneous that once they do interest rate hikes, these numbers get back in balance. very, very tough balancing act. >> i thought it was interesting. just kind of the job growth when it came to leisure and hospitality. expected, right? we're entering summer months and seasonal hires as well. brian chung, as always, we appreciate you. happy friday. thank you. so, work as we know it is

going to change dramatically and quickly in the coming years according to a new study from the world economic forum. they survey 308 companies around the world and 75% say they plan to integrate artificial you intelligence tools into the workplaces. what does that mean for you? according to the businesses, a quarter of the jobs will be disrupted or eliminated in the next five years. but take a deep breath. it is not all bad news. joining me more to talk about this kate rogers. give us got news. >> hey there. well, there is some good news. it will create job opportunities, ai. 50% of companies surveyed did say it will lead to job growth but as we mentioned, 25% say it will lead to job losses. there are some sectors that could see ai boosted job creation, education, agriculture, and health care. some schools like the university of florida are hoping to prepare students for this next phase of the workforce. the school has a public/private partnership with tech notary

public nvidia. the co-founder is an alum of uf. they have an ai-centric data center with a super computer. they look to be a national leader in ai, training students regardless of major. they have 230 courses in ai across 16 colleges and had 7500 students enrolled in that this last spring. take a listen to their director. >> it's being used in artistic ways. it's being used for writing. it's being used for analytics, predictive analytics. so the uses are incredibly widespread. we're seeing that more and more as employers are looking to hire our students. they want that value added skill of ai knowledge. >> they're letting recruiters know that it will have a student workforce that looks different in the next three to five years. they're hoping students will have an negligent the new tech economy due to this program. back over to you. >> i'm interested though to know whether they're going to

implement any training when it comes to the public school system across the country, right, to prepare kids earlier to enter the workforce if they need to know more about ai technology and they don't go to college. >> yeah. that's a great question. this is shifting all different types of roles. obviously, we focus more on u.s. -- uf and the program they're doing there. this has to be adopt add cross majors. even with students who are younger. the economy is changing. workforce is shifting. the skills are going to be valuable to students regardless on what they're concentrating on. >> quickly here. do we know what industries are going to be impacted the most? >> in terms of job growth? >> yes, exactly. >> i think technology information sciences as we mentioned and education and hospitality are areas we can see growth. agriculture is another one. ai is implemented there as well. a lot of different opportunities as you can see for sure moving ahead. >> yeah. good news there. not all the bad news. it's no the all bad news. >> yeah.

it's not that ai is going to take all our jobs and out of work. there is good news. there could be major job growth. we just have to be prepared, ready, and trained for it. kate rogers for us. we appreciate you. >> thank you. >> that does it for me today, everybody. i'll see you back here tomorrow and sunday 2:00 p.m. eastern, deadline white house starts right now. >> hi, there everyone. happy friday. 4:00 in new york. there is brand new reporting. what happened after special counsel jack smith got his hands on that bombshell tape recording of donald trump discussing a classified military document about iran. it's reporting that underscores deep concerns on part of the justice department. after a more of year of stonewalling by team trump, a court mandated search of mar-a-lago and a subpoena after all of that donald trump still might have classified documents