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answer. let's get started victory lap, in his first ever over office address, president biden touts a big win on a bipartisan bid to avert a catastrophic debt default. we're live on capitol hill, with the presidents message to both parties, ahead. and campaign chaos. the twice impeached criminally indicted disgraced one term ex president is trying to get his job back. sparred with his florida for ron desantis on the campaign trail by power of political panel is standing by with what voters think of this bickering. e >>, later, making a splash. one woman who helped buyout more than 100 theaters across the country, so little girls could see an aerial who looks like them. she will join us live. all of this and more is coming up.

good saturday morning to you all, i'm katie phang. we start with a historic win for the country. united states will detect fall on its debt, avoiding a full blown economic meltdown. hours from now, president biden will sign the bipartisan debt limit bill into law. this major breakthrough comes after a monthlong showdown between republicans and democrats. the senate passed the deal in a 63 to 36 votes on thursday night. just days before the june 5th deadline. the agreement suspense the 31.4 trillion-dollar debt limit for two years, and sets new spending levels, and also fulfills a promise from the biden administration to protect and preserve social security, medicare, medicaid, health care for veterans, and technology investments. >> last night the president praise the accomplishment in his for several address from the oval office.

he also commented how -- house speaker kevin mccarthy. >> no one got everything they wanted. but american people got what they needed. i want to commend speaker mccarthy, he and i, and our teams, we were able to get along, and get things done. the final vote in both chambers was overwhelming, far more bipartisan than anyone thought was possible. >> nbc's julie tsirkin is live on capitol hill with the latest. julie, good morning, tell us, what is the mood on the hill this morning? now that we are finally at the finish line of this desk ceiling drama? >> for the first time in a long time we are actually alone here, there's no negotiators, no lawmakers, no speaker mccarthy, or white house staff trying to hammer out details of this agreement. we finally got to the moment where this bill house passed the house, passed the senate. now the president plans to sign into law. but the mood is light. congress was able to avert a default, shore, some say by

their own making. a crisis that they themselves had made. but at the end of the day, both sides are able to come to a compromise. -- and the president of course to get a deal done for the american people, they say no side got everything they wanted. as you heard the president say that over and over again last night from the oval office. but they were able to lift the debt ceiling through the 2024 election, arguably a winter both parties who didn't want to deal with this in a heated election cycle once again. they were also able to ensure spending cuts, the tune of one half trillion dollars over the next several years. was that the president said he stood firm and protected. for example work requirements for medicaid was a big line for democrats there. all in all the president, as you heard there, happy with the agreement he was able to come to with the speaker. >> and julie tsirkin, as always, we're so grateful for you to start off our show this morning. thank you for being with us. the top 2024 republican

presidential hopefuls have their own thoughts on the debt ceiling deal. during his first week on the trail as a presidential candidate, florida governor ron desantis slammed the bipartisan deal, saying the country is going towards bankruptcy. former president donald trump says he would've let the country go into default. both trump and desantis managed to avoid awkward run-ins with each other while campaigning in the same state of iowa this week. while they're trading petty champs, they're also -- -- . former new jersey governor chris christie, former vice president mike pence or both said to officially announce their presidential campaigns this week. a third gop hopeful. north dakota's governor doug burnout could also announced he's running on wednesday. joining me now is my saturday morning political panel. victor shi, host of on the move with victor shi. and michael steele, former rnc chairman. and host of the michael steele podcast. also both being very good friends of mine, some of the

smartest man that i know. so i'm so grateful you guys are starting us off this morning. victor, let's start with you. trump and desantis both in iowa this week for the first time since desantis launched his presidential campaign. trump being typical trump. but desantis took a different attack. not mentioning trump's game, like voldemort. what are thought, what are your thoughts on this calculated approach. and more directly victor, which of these strategies will resonate with younger voters? >> first of all, on the strategy we're seeing from ron desantis and his campaign, it's as if they're all living in 2016 again. or you have donald trump leading the polls by far, they think they can attack the front runner of the gop nomination. that perhaps it will somehow work. i think it's a losing strategy if they think got by not attacking donald trump, it will resonate with voters in the primary election. it won't work i think for a lot of republican candidates right now, the only way to win the nomination is to take on donald

trump by tell. i think it's really to call him out for what he is the only person i can see doing that right now is chris christie. who may be running next week. but this was rhonda santas, i don't think what he's doing right now is a winning strategy. in terms of how it's gonna resonate with young voters, i think right now what we're seeing with this republican field, even with ron desantis and donald trump is that they're focusing on all the wrong issues. i'm wondering who are the people there listening to. it's clearly not people who are on the ground of people who actually care about issues. they're focusing on things like wokeness, critical race theory. what most of the country doesn't even care about these issues. i think a lot of what we're seeing about this republican primary field is just a complete lack of couldn't action to what americans are feeling right now. it seems to be on more about what they're saying on twitter, fox news, and not actually what young people in voters care about. i think that's gonna be a very steep hill to change in terms of perception among young voters. seeing republican candidates for people who are legitimate,

and care about us. i think right now, both donald trump and rhonda santas, and the rest of republican field doesn't show me that they actually care about young people in the issues that were focused on. >> michael, you've been part of the rnc for a long time. i'll call you an elder statesman, but not because of age, but because of wisdom. listen, for you and i, maybe not for victor. but there were like 16 candidates in 2016, or 2015. let me share my concerns with you, i'm worried that there's gonna be so much attention paid to donald trump, that ron desantis gets a lift to the nomination. do you agree or disagree? well, i disagree. i think it doesn't matter how much attention is paid to donald trump. he's already on that trajectory to become the nominee. the test for everyone in this race, including ron desantis, who is at least 20 points behind donald trump at this point, is what steps are you

prepared to take to take him down? >> you know, you can't just go after the king. you have to take him out because otherwise, where do you think it anthem? how do you think it ends? >> the bigger the stages, and i think this is such a transitory moment. i don't believe you know in four months you're gonna have the same number of people in the race. when you get to the fall, this thing becomes a lot more serious. the first debate is august. i think that's what a lot of people are praying for, getting to that big stage. the rnc just set the parameters for that. that 40,000 unique donors for example. one to 2% polling that's not gonna be difficult for all of these individuals to get. the test for all of them is how prepared are they, and what is their strategy to take donald trump down, and not worry so

much about his base. you're not getting his base. if you are getting his base, thin already with you. you're not getting a space. the question is, what is your internal effort inside the -- to pull to the table your side of the table, the number of voters out there, republican voters, who are ready to move on from trump, and that is a big number. it's not a small number to be sneezed that. that's a test between now and august, when the first debate is scheduled to take place. after, that you watch people pile off that thing. you'll probably be down to five folks running altogether. >> michael, i'm gonna quickly stay with. you former vice president mike pence is gonna throw his hat into the ring from what we've heard. trump's followers we know wanted to hang mike pence, and erected gallows outside of the capitol on january six. pence's plan is to run as a good christian candidate. evangelicals love donald trump.

they don't care about his many, many, many, many since. do you think it house mike pence, in terms of his primary, not that road has been returned, as of trunk at something. now evangelicals can move on to someone like mike pence. >> you've seen weakening in the relationship between evangelicals with trump over the past 68 weeks. i don't think is anything significant. but mike pence is a good example of what i'm talking about. for mike pence, knowing that a good portion of the republican base wanted him taken out, right, to hang him. for him to come into this race is his way of saying defiantly, i'm still standing. and i forgive you. that would be his nature. but also that in the final analysis, you want to win. you want to win on the traditional things that have

always one for republicans. donald trump can't give you that. i can. that is gonna be the tim scott who's running also, a christian. christian right republican candidate. in mike pence are gonna try and hold down that space as much as they can. for bike it's good to be very difficult. we will be one of the more intriguing test. just because of what we know happened to him. >> victor, i'm sorry, i have less than a minute left. here but i want to ask, you we want donald trump to win this nomination, right? he's a proven loser. he can be been again by president biden. >> i think whether or not is donald trump or any other candidate, all you have to say is what they believe, and what president biden is done, they're gonna have to go against president biden's record which laid out at the top of the hour. it's strong, it's hard to question his competency after the debt limit deal. i think anyone who tries to run against president biden,

they're gonna have a steep hill to climb in terms of how they're gonna go up and say to the american people that they have a better vision implanted offend their rights, also to improve lives and what president biden's son. i think donald trump is definitely the easiest to buy that from. to show american people the differences. i think anyone of the republican candidates is pretty much the same. >> victor shi and michael steele, i curse the timing gods, because of run other times. but i want to have both of you back. my power political power starting us off the saturday morning. thank you for being here. >> thank. you and happy birthday victor. >> happy birthday victor, enjoy the day. michael healy has to catch up with us in terms of birthday. >> and breaking news overnight, out of india, more than 200 people are dead, and more than 900 are injured after two passenger trains crashed in eastern india. the first trader railed, and another train slammed into the overturn coaches.

rescue workers are still trying to iffy the patrick awesome jurors. coming up, warning, there are tapes. at this time around, trump isn't talking about grabbing women, but classified documents. right now, his own lawyers can't find one of them. we're going in-depth straight ahead. and later, a warning, the new urgent messing about artificial intelligence from industry leaders who created it. still to come, taking matters into their own hands. why black business woman are banding together to rent out theaters across the country for the little mermaid. you're watching the katie phang show. phan show (vo) this is sadie. she's on verizon. the network she can count on. and now she's got myplan. the game changing new plan that lets her pick exactly what she wants, and save on every perk. sadie's getting her plan ready for a big trip. travel pass, on. nice iphone 14 pro! cute couple. trips don't last forever. neither does summer love. so, sadie's moving on. apple music? check.

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their hands on one of the most incriminating pieces of evidence yet. as they continue their investigation into trump's handling of classified documents. a source familiar with the matter confirmed to nbc news

that special counsel jack smith's office has obtained audio recording that features donald trump talking about a classified document relating to iran that he kept after leaving the white house. what makes it even more incriminating, the july 2021 recording also features trump acknowledging that he knew that the document was classified. the source also added that the grand jury investigating trump has heard this recording. new reporting has revealed it after learning of the tape, federal prosecutors quickly issued a subpoena to trump's legal team in order to obtain the documents. trump's team however was unable to locate any such document. who better to break all this down with then two friends of the show, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney of alabama, and msnbc legal analyst. and hugo -- political investigations reporter for the guardian. we have the gang back together here. hugo, i'll start with you. you have your own report in the guardian that's pretty spectacular on this trump issue as well. you added quote, for several minutes of the audio recording, trump talks about how he cannot

discuss the document, because he no longer possesses the sweeping presidential power to declassify and now that he's out of office. but suggest he should have done so when he was still in the white house. hugo, regrets and all, we all know the jedi mind trick of declassification is not legit here. so isn't this a pretty damning and piece of evidence for jack smith? >> i think the suggestion that he should've declassified, but he didn't, it kind of speaks to the mindset that is surrounded this tape. -- not believe the line that trump could just classify something with his mind. that seems to have come from the comps team as far as we understand. but his lawyers have viewed this tape with a lot of skepticism. a lot of concern. because they have seen this as something that would be bad for trump, if it did come out. basically when it came out to

the grand jury. if it came out a trial, that's the sort of thing that a jury would look at, and think you know what, despite his off, this guy knew his obligations, and his limitations on sharing in classified documents. but he did it anyway. >> choice, the fact trump's legal team says we can't find, it we have the subpoena, but it doesn't seem to exist at this point. is it in favor of jack smith's prosecution of donald trump? or a way that may exonerate him when it comes to his exposure, when it comes to the espionage act, et cetera. >> never a good thing when you lose a classified document. so this has got to be bad news for the trump camp. either way katie, this case though, i think the dye was already cast. that donald trump would be prosecuted in connection with these documents. at least as early as a point where doj was forced to obtain a search warrant to go reclaim the documents. there's some benchmarks in doj precedent that divides cases

where defendants are told, no prosecution, that's mike pence. yesterday the doj said, that we're not gonna prosecute you. the distinction being donald trump, who not only withheld documents, but refused to return them. did everything he could to hide them, and is now either lost, misplaced, or somehow mishandled a very important classified document in a way that merits prosecution. >> joyce, i'll stick with you before i stick over to hugo. hugo, other previous show you made the prediction that we should see a doj indictment of donald trump prior to the phone county indictment coming out. we know the timeline is end of july, end of august according to fani luis. do you agree with you go, considering all the leaks on all the evidence and seems to be rolling out for public consumption so far? >> i think the timeline is correct. i doubt the doj is taking fulton county into consideration what it times it's indictment.

when you are inside the department, your primary considerations are making sure that your evidence is lined up, and the law is on your side. and you have to go through an approval process inside the building on pennsylvania avenue. having everyone who has an equity in the indictment review it. tweak it, sign off on it. i think that's very likely where the process is. there is another factor that enters doj's calculus about went to indict. that is the onset of what the doj calls the silly season, the political season. >> you have to indict far enough out from the onset of the primaries to avoid the appearance of having a political influence on those campaigns. >> that means june, even july. that's prime time for getting this indictment across the finish line. >> hugo, you also had more blockbuster reporting, as you do. this week concerning what i have called the train wreck, that is the trump legal team.

i wrote a piece for msnbc all mind where i said it's a political version of the hunger games. seeing how there's so much infighting and what i call people jostling very sharp outpost to get positions. do you consider -- explanation here of the possible timeline, the fact there's a level of disorganization and infighting in trump's legal team, going to create more problems for donald trump? >> i think you know it's certainly possible. we reported this week that there's been a level of distrust, and interpersonal conflict, that we recently didn't appreciate. it's been going on since september. along the way there's been murder suicide pact, some lawyers withholding legal deliberations. and legal strategy, thinking from other co-counsel. word they may encounter their pursue rivals. this reached ahead a few weeks

ago. one of the teams, the loyal -- >> because they want to ride this part of the investigation out. i think it does get an indictment, you should probably expect a reorganization of the legal team. we've already seen one of the lawyers who -- brought in for the manhattan case, but in the stormy daniels hush money case come to the legal team. and it's very possible he may end up leading this team, kind of in the weeks ahead. i think that's where the focus should be, we should be looking at whether the reorganization to cut their losses about their last team, and see if they can start a new one. >> we i guess the big question ends up being, is it reorganized courtesy of epstein, or courtesy of the clients who no one is really talking to. joyce vance and hugo. thank you for joining us this

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the supreme court. here are the facts. more than 100 medical studies have found that abortion pills are incredibly safe and effective. research shows that more than 99% of patients who took the pills had no serious complications. so, let's talk to someone who doesn't know about the medication firsthand. when sarah jury found out that she was nine weeks, pregnant she knew right away but she wanted an abortion. suffering from anxiety her whole life, including in medical settings, jury express that she quote was grateful to have the option to take the abortion pill, missive preston, and misoprostol, at home. a way to make this painful experience more bearable. sarah jewelry who is the deputy communications -- broke anna joins us now. sarah, it's an honor to have you on the show. you know, look, what i want to have you here, i was thinking to myself, it's one thing to undergo an abortion and share that experience of close friends and family. it's another t-shirt with the world in such a public way, especially considering the job

that you have. why are you willing to do so now? >> absolutely, thank you so much for having me and for lifting up these personal stories. i wanted to share it at work especially because i work for congressman ro khanna who is a leader on this issue and i was feeling so much strain after my abortion and i want to do something to show my -- and help others feel more comfortable. to do something to tackling the stigma. i went to my coworkers, i went to my boss, we had a really great, positive conversation about it. it just made me feel so much better. i felt more at ease and i was able to share this stories with l magazine. since that i've had so many messages from people who felt similarly, that they couldn't share to even people who are democrats that don't feel like they have circles of people who are talking about this. they still personally feel a lot of stigma. the story got really great

responses. i was so glad that my office made a space for me to share the story. >> sarah, you mentioned that you did right in l. in that piece you said that just day after day. in your job you watched republican lawmakers with whom you share the hallways and some of whom are colleagues for years, right? they are attacking abortion rights. you explained further that even lawmakers who support abortion only bring it up in policy settings, right? they never discuss it on a personal impacts level. how does this, the stuff that is happening in the hallways of power, in d.c. where these laws are being made, how does this just add to the unjustified stigma and shame surrounding abortion? what can we do to break that stigma? >> absolutely. yeah, so, i had my abortion just, you know, six or seven months after the decision and several months later the texas

mifepristone ruling came out. all of that really did wear down my mental health. it made it much more difficult, i believe, to even talk about this. for me and for many others. the rhetoric has just been so destructive on a personal level to people it has just created this culture of fear. i think that speaking up and sharing these stories, we are going to come back a lot of stigma and shame that people are experiencing. >> there has been progress and mental health awareness but it still takes so much strength to speak openly about mental health issues, especially when it comes to the workplace and especially when it implicates something that inexplicably carries such a stigma. what is your message to others who want to speak up but are afraid to do so and they frankly don't know where to turn? >> yeah, so, i am very lucky that my workplace was willing to have this conversation because i did feel very isolated. i know that it is scary to come forward with, you, know anxiety

or depression or whatever issue you are facing. for me, i felt very alone in the situation i am very glad that i opened up to others and leaned on others. i think also that i was able to seek therapy and get support, mostly because my office is so flexible about mental health days other. policies having those policies in place is extremely import in the workplace as well. just keep having these conversations and don't be afraid to lean on people in your life. i'm really glad that i was able to do that. >> sarah, very quickly before i have to let you go. have you been treated differently in d.c.? in the? capital since you have been there, since her story is come out? >> i would say i, have just gotten so many positive messages. i haven't gotten any negativity. i was so surprised because i was expecting at least maybe people who disagree with me to maybe have negative responses, but everyone has just been so positive and that makes a feel great. i hope that it encourages others to speak out as well. >> we express our thanks and

gratitude to congressman ro khanna to actually creating an environment for you that is safe, that is supportive, and also for his continued advocacy for reproductive rights for all. thank you again, sarah drory for joining us this morning. i appreciate taking the time. >> thank you so much, katie. >> the brink of extinction. why the creator of the artificial intelligence application, chatgpt, is sounding the alarm about the possible end of the human race. and box office hit, the little mermaid, makes a splash at the theaters and it's probably because of my next guest. we will explain after the break. after th break. days? getting inspired! volunteering! playing pickleba...!

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artificial intelligence revolution in sounding the alarm. i could lead to the end of the human race as we know it. sam altman, ceo of openai and chatgpt is among the tech leaders issuing the urgent warning this week. it is not the first time he voices concerns. here's what he said at a senate judiciary hearing last month. >> my worst fears are that we cause significant we had the -- causative that harm to the world. if this technology goes wrong, you can go quite wrong. we want to be vocal about that. this uncharted territory for a.i. is colliding with what could be one of the most pivotal presidential elections in decades.

and i generated political ads and deepfakes are already making rounds on social media platforms that are already struggling to clamp down on misinformation. here is an example of a deepfake that donald trump jr. roof tweeted. please note, we're going to emphasize this. this is an artificially, an a.i. generated video of florida governor ron desantis appearing as michael scott in the office. >> are you wearing away the clothes? >> -- >> are you wearing away the clothes? those look like maybe pam's? >> now. this is a power suit. >> that there is a woman suit. >> i do not buy women's clothes. >> joining me now is phil segel, an expert in a i and the founder of captors, which is the center of advanced preparedness and threat response simulation phil, good morning. thanks for joining us. first, some may laugh at that

deepfake of desantis and say it is clearly just a, joke but there is no disclosure on that video. that it was fake. we had at a disclaimer and a graphic to make sure that our viewers are aware that it's a i generated. we are entering some pretty murky waters here, so how does all of this work? how concerned would be about the potential dangers of a.i.? >> yeah, so i think there's really two questions there. extinction versus misinformation are two different topics. focusing on the misinformation, we have two separate that is well into really two areas. one is satire. i think some of the deepfakes we're going to see are going to be classify the satire and they're going to be allowed under the first amendment and we just have to be diligent and understanding. of what those things are. however, there are going to be some very malignant types of things i, point to the issue we

had earlier this week where there was a fire at the pentagon deepfake put out on the internet that caused the markets to move. if it had not been outed very quickly by reputable sources like msnbc it could have caused some further damage beyond a short term market blip. >> phil, let's talk about hedging against that and maybe protecting the viewers. democratic new york representative yvette clarke introduced a bill that will require politicians to disclose when they're using a.i. and political ads. minnesota senator amy klobuchar also sponsored and identical bill. do you agree that a.i. generated political ads, let's just stay that particular lane, right? political ads should be federally regulated how could something like that even be regulated. we talk about the first amendment, we talk about satire, but what it is a warning label if no one's going to read it? >> yeah, that's a really good question. i agree that in a political

situation, we make candidates say, i approve this message. i see no reason why we shouldn't ask them to say that this has been generated by artificial intelligence. it is a good starting guard rail to put in place. i am not sure, to your point, that everybody will notice that disclaimer and that it won't have negative impacts on some peoples beliefs and voting patterns. on the other hand, again, satire is allowed it. is a really fine line between satire and misinformation in these types of situations we. i think a warning label in either case is definitely warranted. phil, what about the concerns about the extinction of the human race? many of us have seen the terminator movies, and again that is entertainment. that is hollywood, but there is

some real red flags that are being raised by people within the industry space that i think have a legitimate concern about where is going to be the ability to ensure that it really does not spiral out of control? is the responsibility ultimately, then, phil on the humans that are at these companies, that are behind these softwares and technologies to have to be responsible and held accountable if it does go completely south? >> yeah, we definitely need them to be held accountable. we can't make them responsible. that is the thing about politicians and our policies that we need to put in place. i think it was not a bad thing for these a.i. experts to put out a warning. we need to get started, because if we don't have a early shock warning on social media, we would be much farther along on our regulation of that area as

well. that being said, i don't worry very much about a terminator two situation where the eye rises up and takes over, but i worry very much about bad actors using artificial intelligence to do bad things to society and that is what our nonprofit is really about, it's fighting that. you, know i think that there are really for areas that we have to really focus on of. just quickly mention, one is protecting our children. the second is making sure that our crime, our laws are hardened against a. i can't have people using my eye maybe do it as an excuse, and the third is fairness and things like hiring, financial services, health care. then the last one really is putting these guardrails in place. phil segel thank you for bringing us home. thank you for actually kind of managing what the expectations should be buyer of yours and those that are kind of following along with the developments today i.

sometimes art imitates reality but we certainly hope that it is not in this case. phil segel, thanks for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> coming up, casting inspiration far and wide. the little mermaid is causing racist backlash over its lead role of aerial but inspiring black, latina, and asian girls everywhere. we will discuss that after the break. >> >> wants, and save on every perk. sadie's getting her plan ready for a big trip. travel pass, on. nice iphone 14 pro! cute couple. trips don't last forever. neither does summer love. so, sadie's moving on. apple music? check. introducing myplan. the first and only unlimited plan to give you exactly what you want, so you only pay for what you need. and get iphone 14 pro on us when you switch. it's your verizon.

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half the little mermaid is making a splash at the box. office i actually have goose bumps from that. opening memorial day, weekend the live action film rings in more than $117 million in the u.s. alone. it isn't doing as well overseas. the guardian reports that quote,

their review bombing and -- overwhelming negative reactions to drive down and review score. it's yet to deter the importance of this movie's first leading black aerial. it's inspiration to young black girls everywhere. to help support black women's representation in the media, at the hashtag when with black women organization buyout more than 100 movie theaters for opening weekend. joining me now is to take it easy, founder of hashtag when with black women and the founder and ceo of full circle strategies and former senior adviser to the naacp. she is an honor to have you join our show today. i read about your organization and i was just so impressed. you guys bought out more than 100 movie theaters nationwide for special screenings. even one mom in metro atlanta runs it out her neighbor theater. talk to us about why to said to do this and why it was just so important. >> katie, i think we all get

goosebumps every time we see that clip of hallie bailey just moving us with a very incredible talent. i think that goes into the very reason why it was so important for black women all over the country to make a very loud and important statement that this movie matters. this actress matters. she is exactly the right role. the right casting for this. we saw when this very historic announcement was made it, we saw on incredible backlash across this country just because of the simple fact of her beautiful skin color and the texture of her hair. we knew then that it was going to be important for black women across this country to make a statement that this movie, matters that this actress matters, to show that the positive portrayal of black women is important in this

country. we decided that we wanted to ensure that on opening weekend that there was an opportunity for young black girls and young people in our communities of all races to have the opportunity to see this positive image, to see this aerial, to enjoy this inspiring story. also to show the economic power of black women in this country and we are just so honored to have played a small role in what has become historic box office numbers. >> so, jotaka, a lot of live action disney films and movies are being remade, but not many of them have a person of color, especially in the lead role. what do you think needs to be done from a positive representation of people of color both on tv and on movie screens? >> well, those conversations start both behind the camera and in front of the camera. i think that it is exactly what we are seeing happening with the little mermaid.

studios have to make the right decision in casting the best talent. hallie bailey was the best talent. she's an extraordinary actress and musician. she was the right person for the role. disney i believe made the right decision despite the backlash to not only stand in support, but to invest heavily in supporting and ensuring that the world saw this aerial. i think we need more decisions at studios such as the decision by disney. we need more advocates to continue to push studios to make those decisions and at the box office ensuring that we support these films when they are coming out in our communities across the country. >> well, i'm thankful to you in your organization for taking the initiative to allow other kids to be able to go and see themselves on the screen, to inspire. them those of us that are, supporters we're going to talk with our dollars and we're going to continue to support this decision by disney.

hallie bailey and all of the amazing actresses and actors that were part of this amazing film. jotaka eaddy you inspire me, thank you for joining me this morning. >> thank you. >> thanks to all of you for joining me this morning as well. i'll be back here tomorrow or i will welcome mary trump to get her take among other things on her uncles chances in a growing gop presidential field for 2024. that's tomorrow morning at 8 am eastern right here on msnbc. remember, you can keep up with us by following at katie phang show on twitter, instagram, and tiktok. i would also like to say a very happy birthday to daniela hot emilio, she is my assistant here. she's amazing and she's an extraordinary woman. stay tuned, the saturday show with jonathan capehart is coming up next. want a worry-free way to kill bugs? zevo traps use light to attract and trap flying insects with no odor and no mess. they work continuously, so you don't have to.

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