tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC June 3, 2023 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
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extinction sunday, alex, they get to maine, maine is the fastest warming body of water on the planet from climate change. so, they have to work twice as hard to get half as much. they don't get the reward when they migrate up to feed. all of this together makes this right will extinction storm. and we're not doing enough about it. within our lives, something doesn't change right now, we're gonna lose this species. >> jeff, i'm so glad you're bringing attention to this. they're beautiful creatures, extraordinary creatures, in fact. thank you so much, my friend, very good to see. we'll bring you back soon. meantime, everyone, that's gonna do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports, as you get tomorrow. one pm eastern. my friend yasmin vossoughian continues our coverage right now. now. >> hey, everybody, good afternoon new to you.
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i'm yasmin vossoughian on a very busy start afternoon. breaking news, the president just signed the debt ceiling bill. into law. it happened just a couple of moments ago. it comes after the president took a victory lap, a victory many thought he could not achieve. >> i know bipartisanship is hard. and unity is hard. we can never stop trying. because in moments like this one, the ones we just faced, where the american economy in the world economy is at risk of collapsing, there's no other way, no matter how tough our politics get, we need to see each other not as evident adversaries, as fellow americans. >> fellow americans. right now in iowa, a cavalcade of gop presidential candidates, all in one place. with one notable exception. that exception may have bigger things to worry about, new reporting on the special counsel investigation in the former president, and the document donald trump's lawyers cannot seem to find. all of that, plus, we are
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following the horrific scene in india. the death toll nearing 300 from a train derailment and crash. new video from a deadly building collapse as anger continues to grow over what happened before and after the tragedy, a live report on that, coming up. we start at the white house. where the president just signed a debt ceiling bill into law, let's get right to nbc's gary grumbach from the white house. gary, good to talk to you. a big splash event, essentially, got the go-ahead, the greenlight that he did it. in fact, it's been passed. in our in boxes. what more do we know? >> yeah, after weeks of public negotiations with folks to the white house, heading over to capitol hill. and for -- folks on capitol hill come to the white house. it was an email, it was a press release. saying that the bill has been signed, the in the email he thanked speaker mccarthy, leader jeffries, leader schumer, leader mcconnell for the partnership. washington loves to work under pressure here, right? this happened 48 hours before that ex date, the treasury secretary, janet yellen, put
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into place, saying the government would run out of money, and be unable to pay their bills. let's talk a little bit about what you see on the screen there. what is in this debt ceiling agreement? first, that big thing. it suspends debt ceiling until january 1st, 2025. we don't have to worry about this again until about january 2025. illimitable terry spending, limits nonmilitary spending, rescinds about 28 billion dollars in unspent covid relief funds. it eliminates 1.4 billion in irs budget. and also restarts the federal student loan payments program. that's something, of course, the president biden would not, if it was his choice, put in a bill like this. of course, this was a compromise. both sides, and neither of them, got exactly what they wanted. president biden talked a lot last night in his speech to the nation about what was at stake here. what would happen if they did not reach this compromise. here's what he had to say. >> if we had failed to reach an agreement on the budget, there were extreme voices threatening
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to take america, for the first time in a 247 year history, into default. on our national debt. nothing, nothing would've been more irresponsible. nothing would've been more catastrophic. our economy would've been thrown into recession. retirement account for millions of americans would've been decimated. >> so, there was this focus on the importance of bipartisanship, there also was a little bit of focus on his own 2024 presidential run. he said, in the statement, i'm going to be coming back, and with your help, i'm going to win. there, yasmin. >> not surprised at that, he campaigned on being able to reach across the aisle. being able to strike deals, just like this one. so, it's not surprising that he would talk about 2024 in his kind of victory lap that he took last night. gary, quickly here, why didn't he have more of a splash-y signing event today? do we know? >> well, last night, he did have the address to the nation, very first oval office address. it's the weekend, his wife had a town, it's her birthday,
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she's out the middle east during a trip around the middle east there, visiting pyramids today. he sent out a press release, did the signing, we may get a tweet or a picture of the actual event later this afternoon. nothing from the press pool itself. >> that's a way to spend a birthday, gary grumbach, thank you. we're gonna warn the president signing of the debt ceiling bill, ahead this hour. i'm gonna speak to a pair of congressional veterans, charlie dent on edwards as well. and then coming up next hour, democratic congressman, jimmy gomez of california, on why he voted against the debt limit bill. you don't miss that conversation. so, as gary just mentioned, the debt ceiling battle is not gonna come up again until after the next presidential election. i've a feeling that's what mccarthy was banking on. that leaves plenty for the fast growing field of republican candidates to focus on. today, most of them are in iowa. nbc news correspondent ronny -- 's and iowa state fairgrounds, where senator joni ernst is hosting those gop contenders. as always, good to talk to you. the man of the top, all the polls right now, as we are about 18 months or so out is
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not going to be there. how is that affecting things there in iowa? >> right, it's kind of what donald trump suggested that he may not partake in the first two republican presidential debates. he doesn't want to legitimize the rest of the field challenging, because of his position in the polls, guess what there are thousands of iowans here today they're meeting everybody but him. the likes of nikki haley, asa hutchison rhonda scent is even mike pence. they are all here. they've been shaking hands, talking to folks, asked one guy right after he was beating tim scott, -- i just met a. tim scott jumped back into the fray, i just met him. which really hit to the hard here. this is very much still an open field, instead of. i want to hear from one potential candidate. who is suggested that perhaps he'll be jumping into the race, i will let you hear directly from. take a listen. >> great to be here at the roast and ride, people can
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expect we'll be back in iowa on wednesday. >> and a few more times after that? >> entirely possible. >> we expect mike pence to make his presidential announcement here, yasmin. in iowa just a couple days from now. he will be joining the likes of chris christie and dog -- governor of north dakota as well jumping into the presidential race. this field, it is only growing. the next eight months here in the state of iowa, are gonna be crucial for this candidates. >> quite a, get vaughn hillyard, former president of united states. any chance you have up to really ask about how he felt with the wrap up of his documents case? any reaction he had? >> i did not get the chance to ask him about that question, specifically. try to be respectful robberies time one-on-one. i do have the chance, or point out, just a few moments ago, to ask nikki haley, the former u.n. ambassador, about donald trump's social media post yesterday. which you congratulated kim jong-un for north korea being added to the executive order of the will help organization. he posted congratulations to
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kim jong-un, he responded me, kim jong-un's a thug, some of the turnout being congratulated by an american leader. we'll get that sound ready, you have them ready for you soon. >> thanks for, that vaughn, chris christie not there as well, he came in tenth i believe back in the 2016 iowa caucuses. how much should we read into that? >> right, he came in tenth last go around here in iowa, the question is, to what extent is you gonna really try and make a campaign play? is this an effort to get on the debate stage? just yesterday, the rnc released their new debate rules, requiring, number one, they have to commit to some supporting the eventual nominee. chris christie would have to say, i will support donald trump, if he is the nominee. the second part that's gonna be a challenge, getting 45,000 americans to donate to your presidential campaign. that's a requirement to get on to the debate stage. it's gonna be a challenge for some of these candidates. to pull that sort of support over the next to have months. that's the question for chris christie. is he really in this race to win? it is a minute to take on donald trump?
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in order to take on donald trump, you have to get to the debate stage. it's gonna be interesting two months ahead over the course of the summer. to >> say the least, vaughn hillyard, thank you, vaughn, coming, up classified document search, just briefly mentioned, we are back in just 60 seconds. with a new reporting on the classified material, donald trump admitted on tape to taking from the white house. and the lawyers that are now scrambling to find it. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. acccceeeyyy! i'm the sizzle in this promposal. and tonight, sparks are gonna fly. kyle? and while romeo over here is trying to look cool, things are about to heat up. uh-oh. darn it, kyle! and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, you could end up paying for this yourself. sorry mr. sanchez! get allstate, and be better protected from mayhem, like me. that's a hard no.
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famously blustery mr. trump incorrectly described it on the recording. prosecutors issued a subpoena for the return of all records that resemble the materials trump mentioned in the tape, where he discussed a sensitive document, describing military options for confronting iran. joining me now, msnbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, joyce vance. it is astounding, that one would brag about something like this, that could potentially send us into a world war. a possible confrontation on a foreign adversary like iran. and he would think that that was then at his personal home, joy. he was asked about this, by sean hannity on the fox town hall. he said, essentially, i know nothing about it all. and i know, all i know is, everything i did was right. what do you make of this? >> that is, i think, the quintessential trump strategy. deny that you did anything wrong, say that you did everything right. you know, it worked out for him
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pretty well with the american public. it worked when he was in the oval office. it doesn't work as well as a strategy when federal prosecutors have put together evidence against you. you can't just make those generic statements and hope that a jury will be persuaded. i think what we are seeing here is the law, slow wind up to the american people getting some justice, involving the former president, from what has been outrageous misconduct, involving careless handling of our nation's secrets. >> so, you worked on a memo, titled model prosecution memo for trump classified documents, along with andrew weissmann and others as well. and it says this, there is sufficient evidence to obtain in sustain a conviction here, if the information gleaned from government filings and statements and voluminous public reporting is accurate. in the, the the doj is likely now, or shortly will be, internally circulating a prosecution memo of its own
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saying so. andrew weissmann essentially saying, as you well know, this is gonna be coming in days. not months. where do you stand on this? >> so, what we tried to do, and have to say the credit goes to a team of extremely talented lawyers, that intern i had the pleasure of working with on this, the prosecutors right what's called a press memo, a prosecutor memo, in advance of indicting, essentially, every case. and particularly, for important or complicated cases, they can be voluminous. you have to lay out the factual basis for the indictment. you have to lay out the law. and then you have to engage in analysis, not only of the government's case, but of potential defendants. before you can make a decision about whether it's proper to indict a case or not. in this case, and it's important to say that we were only able to use publicly available information, doj could have a lot of other information that they obtained through the grand jury process, including evidence that could be exculpatory for any number
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of defendants, not just the former president, but based on what we know, and what we can see, this is in the heartland of cases where the justice department has brought indictments, in other cases, involving retention of classified material -- >> we know when it happens. that we're getting a kind of closer glimpse, or it seems, a better view of where the special counsel is that with their investigation. also watching georgia as well. fulton county d.a. there, fani willis. how now the washington post reporting, we're looking at conduct of the former president, outside of the bounds of georgia. saying this, and i quote, if willis does allege a multi state racketeering scheme with trump at center, the case could test the bounds of the controversial law, and make
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history in the process. the statute calls for penalties of up to 20 years in prison. what do you make of this latest development on fani willis's investigation? >> georgia has a very powerful state rico statute. there, is of course, the federal rico statute, used to prosecute various types of organized crime. whether it's mafia, gangs, it's uses have expanded in the years since that statute was first passed. and states like georgia often have laws on their own that apply to conduct within their borders. i think this reporting suggests that willis is doing what good prosecutors do. she's trying to make sure she understands the entire universe of evidence that's out there. some of it may be good for her, some of it may be bad for her. with that regard to, that she wants to know what it is, and what impact it has on her case. before she indites, so she can
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make the best possible decisions about who to indict, and what to indict them for. >> joyce vance, great to see. >> still ahead, everybody, the student loan headache, what is next for the president's financial relief program? now that the senate and house voted to overturn it. and the debt limit deal a triggering a restart of loan payments. plus, a disastrous, deadly derailment. what we're learning about what caused two trains to crash in india, killing more than 280 people. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. and weak enamel. sensodyne sensitivity gum & enamel relieves sensitivity, helps restore gum health, and rehardens enamel. i'm a big advocate of recommending things that i know work. your bug spray should take out bugs, not keep out people. unlike other sprays that stick around, zevo goes from kill to clean in just seconds, plus it's safe for use around people and pets. zevo. people-friendly. bug-deadly.
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following breaking news out of eastern india, where at least 288 people are dead after the country's deadliest real disaster in decades. with an 800 remain injured, as the cause of the crash is not yet known. we do know that two passenger trains derailed on friday evening. dropping hundreds of people under mangled coaches and flip real cards. i want to bring in megan fitzgerald, following this incredibly devastating story out of india for us. what more are learning about this? >> well, yasmin, look, we're talking about one of the worst train accidents the world has ever seen. what we know, according to the railway minister, there were at least two trains involved here. and the first, for some unknown reason, which is under investigation, suddenly had at
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least ten train cars derail. debris from that went on to a nearby track, now we're talking about a second passenger train, going in the opposite direction. colliding with that debris, that fell on the track, causing several of its train cars to derail. this is a death toll that just continues to surge, right, now it's closing in on 300, with nearly 1000 people injured. earlier today, indian prime minister modi visited the crash scene, the accident scene, where he surveyed the damage there. he also went to hospital where people are being treated. he, of course, offered his condolences, but vowed a complete and thorough investigation here. and said that those who are responsible will receive severe punishment. now, the reality here, unfortunately, that train incidents are not uncommon in india. you've got some 12 million people taking some 14,000 trains to get around the country every day. hundreds of incidents are reported every year, but this most certainly is the worst
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that the country has seen, as you mentioned, and more than two decades since 1985, where some 250 people were killed. yes ma'am? >> unbelievable, megan fitzgerald for us, thank you, for being on the story for us. we appreciate it. coming up, everybody, will there be political repercussions for debt limit negotiations? >> i want to commend speaker mccarthy. he and i, and our teams, we're able to get along. >> one of the big questions is, will speaker mccarthy face a new confidence vote from the far-right for cutting that deal? with the president? and then later, on protest over the building of a multi million dollar police training center, now leading to arrests in atlanta. why those activist are saying your city could be next, if this construction continues? up first, the alleged mismanagement that led to a deadly building collapse in iowa. we'll be right back. ht back. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein.
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being raised this weekend, in the shocking collapse of an apartment building in downtown davenport, iowa. we now have some video showing a support brace on the outside of the building buckling right as parts of the brick facade start to crumble around it in the final moments, the final minutes, before this collapse. three people remain unaccounted for, the davenport community had raised concerns about the safety months ago. but we're not advised to vacate, want to bring in nbc's jesse kershaw, been following the story for us.
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jesse, good hush talk to, you what more about this collapse after getting more troubling information here? >> yeah, yasmin, let's start with the three people who are still missing. at last word we're looking at a stark reality of policing that they believe it is likely those three people who were still missing, were home at the time of this partial collapse. on sunday evening. coupled with the fact that this city has said, our officials broadly, at a press conference of, said that the search for survivors and people who may possibly be presumed dead has wrapped up, and this is now moving into recovery effort. so, that is the stark reality we're facing right now. the city says that, just providing money for residents and businesses, impacted by this partial collapse, all that as we continue to see numerous questions, as you mentioned, there were red flakes. possibly dozens of red flags. based on nbc news's review of records from recent years. and we've also now obtained 9-1-1 audio from a couple soon
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before the collapse on sunday. with a warning for officials about possible deficiencies with this property. we're talking about more than 100 year old building, so, the questions about if these warnings were taken seriously enough, and who may be responsible for possibly having prevented this. all those questions linger. you mentioned the city is providing funding, they're still three people, yasmin, who are missing at this hour. at last word that we have from officials. all of this as we're told that cruise, quote, are now, quote, removing pieces of the building to control falling hazards. we're told this is to help with the recovery efforts. again, no longer search for survivors, or people possibly presumed dead. we're now looking at a recovery mission. that's how this is being framed by officials. there have been walls put up to support unsafe, unstable areas. a reminder, this is still a very hazardous situation for the crews that are going in there. as this continues going on, nearly a week now, since this collapse. again, yasmin, just to bring it home, still three people, three
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lives, that hang in the balance. we just don't know their ultimate fates, yasmin. >> so troubling, for so many of those families as well, jesse kirsch, thank you. meanwhile, in connecticut, another building partially collapsing on friday. this one in the city of new haven. at least eight people, all of whom are construction professionals, working at the site, were injured when a portion of the building caved in. two of the victims have been hospitalized, with critical life threatening injuries. new haven mayor, justin -- spoke with reporters yesterday. listen to this. >> they were doing a concrete pour on this building. as they were pouring concrete, a portion of the second floor collapsed on to the floor and into the basement. i did want to think a moment to think that new haven fire department, who responded immediately. and ensured that there were not other people in the building. >> moments ago, as well, the president signed the debt ceiling bill to avoid default.
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we have this new video just in from the white house. the moment he put pen to paper. in his primetime oval address, announcing this deal last night, the president commended speaker mccarthy and other republican negotiators, and highlighted the bipartisan nature of this bill. >> he and i, and our teams, we're able to get along. get things done. we were straightforward with one another. completely honest with one another. respectful with one another. both sides operated in good faith. both sides kept their word. >> i want to bring in former republican congressman from pennsylvania, charles dent, along with former democrat representative from, donna edwards, also an msnbc political analyst. donna, let me start with you on this one, i want to get your overall feel for how this deal ended. >> well, i mean, i think the president was true to his word, when he made a commitment, when you first came into office, that he was going to work in a bipartisan way when he could. and that is reflected in this
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deal. and it is true, everybody did not get what they wanted. but the country did. that's what the president said. and i think that he comes out really shining in this. he was able to protect his priorities. that he started out in this administration, with legislation that's already passed. and he was able to make sure that we have a debt ceiling avoiding to fall for the next two years. which i think is an accomplishment. in a very divided congress. it was interesting to me, speaker mccarthy came out well, but he really had to depend on democrats to deliver the no default measure. and that we will see going into these upcoming appropriations debates, whether he will be able to hold together his conference. >> congressman, pick up on where congresswoman is leaving off, and that is the strength
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of speaker mccarthy right about now. you think back, of course, his confirmation, 50 votes in to get elected to speaker of the house. here we are today, he was able to negotiate this bipartisan deal. where does this leave his strength right now? his positioning? >> well, i think his position is greatly enhanced by this agreement. i think he came out very well. relative to his detractors. who i think are in a very defensive position. i don't think those folks are gonna be a position to try and take him down right now. they might try later. but they're not gonna be able to do it now. you know, mccarthy exceeded expectations, he delivered far more votes, frankly, than many of us would have thought. ordinarily, when these deals are put together, the spending agreement, it's usually a whole bunch of democrats in a minority of republicans. i used to be one of the minority republican to vote for these deals. he needed to get a majority of his majority. in fact, he got close to 150 votes, 149 votes. the democrats, obviously,
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provided more, hakeem jeffries should get a lot of credit for providing a big assist in releasing his members to vote for a key procedural rule to allow this bill to be brought up. the hard-liners are trying to take it down. mccarthy comes out, comes out stronger, much stronger. he's gonna be taking a lot more seriously now by the administration. and frankly, i think the hard-liners are little bit on their heels right now. but i'll try again. >> donna, there's a real problem that has emerged out of all of this. it's the politics surrounding these negotiations. yesterday, we saw emerge from fitch credit rating, the u.s. was remaining on this negative credit watch. because of the political size a shun of this very process, and how it's gone on for over a decade. that's essentially saying, we don't trust the united states government. >> well, except that i think that things will settle down, it's unfortunate that we, again, came to the brink, just as we did back in 2011. but because this deal was cut
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and will last two years, i think that's gonna give the ratings agencies some measure of confidence that things will be on an even keel, at least over this next period of time. i think the challenge of that icy, getting through the current spending process. i mean, i think that's going to be really heavy lift for republicans, and for mccarthy. because democrats are not gonna get an assist on appropriations bills as they come forward. so, we still will run the risk, potentially, of another government shutdown. we will see, when we get to october, but there's a lot of space between here and there. >> charles, can we pivot a little bit to 24? we are watching what's happening, in iowa right, now there's been a lot of back and forth between desantis and trump over the last week. really going at each other, trying to figure out their lanes. as to what the best attack is. here's what political is writing about that, should they
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continue down the path of savagely towards each other, it could leave the eventual nominee hobbled for what is expected to be a tough general election fight against president joe biden. what do you make of that? >> well, i think this assortment of truth to that statement. look, between donald trump and ron desantis, i mean, desantis is making a fundamental error. he's trying to channel trump's grievance politics, politics of victimization. it's almost like a cheap imitation of trump. why by the imitation when you can get the original? that's trump. he comes without all of trump's legal and ethical baggage. but i don't think that's necessarily a winning message. fighting the culture wars, getting in fights with disney, picking on the transgender,'s six-week abortion bans. i don't think that's a path forward for republicans. i think -- >> what is the path? what is the path? >> they're gonna need a candidate, who sounds a little bit more like tim scott, frankly, or nikki haley. or asa hutchinson. >> do you think any of those
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three have the ability to win the nomination? >> well, look, at the moment, it's very early. we'll see who emerges, clearly, ron desantis is the number one challenger at the moment, the non trump candidates. someone else may emerge, too early to say who. right now, no, they're not a strong position. we've got a lot of time between now in those primaries. there could be a few more trump indictments between now and then as well. so, we'll see what happens, but i do think desantis, really has to rethink his strategy as a candidate. i don't think this is challenging trump, certainly in a general electorate, wants. it's not going to help win these swing voters in these suburban communities, college educated voters are where republicans are struggling. just talking about grievance and anger and again, the abortion issue is a big liability right now for republicans. >> you make really good point about timing, because i like to remind folks over organ, at this point back in 2015, donald trump wasn't even in the race. i believe his polling was at 1%,
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i believe, or about a week away from when he was about to enter the race or something. it seems, i think that some days off, there is about a week or so. donna, we're looking at an announcement from former new jersey governor, chris christie, expected to jump in and the next few days. he doesn't seem to have necessarily, at this point, again, timing, a real chance. jennifer reuben arguing this though, he can take down trump in ways that desantis cannot. and can maybe take down desantis while he's at it. but christine might not even make the debate. there's rumors trump could skip the first couple, as we've been talking about. what do you make of this? >> well, i think that all eyes are on everybody else. at this stage, donald trump really commands the territory. chris christie does seem to be, of the type of candidate who could come out there, hard charging, beating back trump, but he, nikki haley and mike pence all of the same problem. they all work with the guy.
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so, they're gonna have to defend their allegiance to donald trump throughout in order to take that nomination. so, i think it's a tough path for christiane for some of these other candidates. charlie's right. it is early. at this stage, donald trump just has to keep being donald trump, and that the rest of them have the food fight. >> former representative charlie dent, donna edwards, thank you guys both, appreciate it. and youtube, everybody, out with a big reversal. the company will no longer remove content that pushes lies about fraud in the 2020 election, axios was first to report on the suspension of youtube so-called election integrity policy. which was created back in december of 2020. the company claiming, in a statement, quote, while removing this content does curb some information, it could also be unintended affective curtailing political speech, without meaningfully reducing the risk of violence or other real world harm. coming up in our next hour, after some parents complained
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again ripping through west texas. at least five twisters were reported with at least one confirmed touching down. near fort stockton, this is coming after one person was killed, dozens of homes damaged in texas, following a tornado last month. meanwhile, brutal flooding has prompted the governor to deploy emergency resources to the area more than 5000 customers remaining without power. in the state. this, morning that numbers more than 10,000. the atlantic hurricane season, it is officially underway. not good news. it has its first named storm already. tropical depression or lean, we can from tropical storm this morning, as it continues its journey off the coast of florida, and the gulf of mexico. nbc's blaine alexander is following it for us, and is in miami. blaine, as always, it is great to see you. give us a sense of where the storm is headed. and really only in the first week of hurricane season, what are the expectations? >> we're just three days in,
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that's right. we've already seen our first named tropical storm. it's interesting, as you mentioned, yes it started as a tropical depression but it strengthened to a storm and, now it's downgraded, or weakened to a tropical depression, again. it is still packing a rather significant, at least wind and rain carriage. in fact, what we're seeing, i wanna show you some video we got from hollywood, florida. just earlier this afternoon. you see heavy rain, heavy wind, sweeping, in fact, one of our colleagues who shot this video said he actually had to duck for cover in a food truck. people were out enjoying the summer weather, and then you see weather like this sweep in. it's already kind of at least a little preview of what's to come. yes, we are now day three of the hurricane season, officially. officials say we're expecting a near normal season. what does that mean? that means we're talking about between 12 to 17 or so named storms. and as many as four of those could become major storms. again, noah predicting a normal hurricane season. but when you think about the fact that it really only takes one major storm to devastate an
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tucked inside the debt ceiling deal, a major new provision that impacts more than 40 million student loan borrowers. repayments, that have been paused after the pandemic, will now be resumed and expected by august 29th, in a senate on thursday, advancing a republican bill that would overturn a separate student loan cancellation plan, which gave up to $20,000 in federal student loan relief tomorrow or's who qualified. the president is expected to veto that, all of that as the supreme court is expected to rule on two cases involving biden student debt relief plan before the end of this month. joining me now, melissa byrne, the founder of we the 45 million, or advocate for student loan relief. great to talk to about this. there has been a lot of back and forth when it comes to student debt relief this past week, i first want to get your reaction to the provisions that were somewhat buried in the
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debt deal. and also the president, his administration, saying no matter what, they were gonna do this anyway. >> well, one, it was definitely a shock that they were in there. we definitely fought really hard to stop that from happening. my team had to sittings -- in the sea. calling him to stop his attack on student loan borrowers, i find it disgusting that the speaker was under percent committing to student loan borrowers. and threatened default on our nation, if there wasn't something about hurting student loan borrowers in this provision. >> the president is expected, as i mentioned, to veto this current bill, as well from congress, scrapping his debt forgiveness plan. what is your reaction to this, as you said, and as we're seeing, this repeated assault on this legislation? >> i, mean i think after think about, this is real people that are impacted. it's over 40 million americans.
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of those 40 million americans, it's about 320,000 veterans who are impacted. and borrowers are all across the country, speaker mccarthy has close to 90,000 borrowers eligible for relief in his district, in central valley, california. brandon williams, from syracuse, republican candidate, he is over 120,000 borrowers. this is an issue that impacts both the democratic districts and republican districts. and it is really disgusting, the republican party is moving, heaven and hell to hurt their own constituents, to hurt americans. and of course, all of this started when president -- reagan begin the effort -- as governor of california, to start defunding her education, to start making her education not free anymore. it hurts every day americans. that's why i know that all the fighting, and all the borders i know will be fighting, that we cannot have a return the repayment until cancellation has been delivered. >> melissa, i want to read the
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quote that you gave to roll call, i think it's a powerful one. you said, people are experiencing extreme mental health stress because they're watching people play politics with their financial security. 20 million people with student loan debt live in republican districts and republicans are hurting their own voters just to own the libs. you touched on this just now. but i'm wondering what you're specifically hearing from voters in these areas. what are they telling you about how they're dealing? >> i mean, i've been hearing from borrowers this entire time. that they don't know how they're gonna handle having payments turn back on, especially with people who are promised full loan relief. are the people that are struggling to have about, 20 grand of loan debt left, they have pell grants, or ten k. and didn't have pell grants. you have 20 million people who are promised, a zero balance. and they were on the weighted to delivering that, until republican attorney generals and dark money groups that fund republicans decided to intervene in the court system. and it's just said to think
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that it's about trying to score political winds instead of delivering for the american people. i wake up every day doing organizing, doing this work, because i wanna make sure that my neighbors are safe and secure. i wanna make sure i'm safe insecure. and we have way too many republicans in this country who think it's about me, me, me. notice, kevin mccarthy and mchenry, neither of them demanded cut to the 5 to 9 program that shelters money that goes to mostly wealthy families to stay for college. they didn't bother to do any cuts for wealthy families. to save for college. they want working families, they want students in graduates who are poor and working class to shoulder all of this. -- they may not get to finish college or they have that. they have worked with less parents, they put enough work to save money when the kids go to college. they had to take apparent plus loans. and they're not eligible for some of the programs that are going, on it's really about
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cruelty. it is really said that it hurt student loan borrowers, or default our country. is that hostage taking? it's horrible. i'm asking the white house, a lot of people are asking the white house, to make sure that we do not have to return a repayment until cancellation has been delivered. >> last question to you, melissa, and then let you go. what are your expectations when it comes to the two cases in the supreme court? >> -- the solicitor general did a phenomenal job arguing the case. and factually, none of the intervenors have standing. as long as the justices follow facts, and follow rule of all, it should be -- fined no standing. and that same day, we should be able to start delivering relief. and turn on that application. >> we're certainly gonna be watching that for a lot of voters out there that are concerned.
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