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closing in, exclusive nbc news reporting reveals the finish line might be right around the bend for the federal grand jury looking into the twice impeached one term ex president's handling of classified documents. when could we possibly see federal charges brought against donald trump? plus, pride and prejudice. republicans sure are running out of things to boycott during pride month. target, nascar, even the national weather service is in the crosshairs of hate. how these boycotts could actually backfire. and later,'tis the season, we're just a few days into the atlantic hurricane season, we have already seen one named storm. what we can expect this year and the climate change connection, all of this and more is coming up. and the good sunday morning to
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you all, i'm katie phang, we start this hour with a look ahead at the 2024 presidential primary. republican candidates are descending on the battleground state of iowa to kick off their campaigns for the oval office. tonight, and iowa, former united nations ambassador, republican governor of south carolina and 2024 hopeful, nikki haley, will be in the spotlight at a live town hall hosted by cnn. yesterday, at a roast and ride avenged moines, haley jumped in along with florida governor ron desantis and former vice president mike pence to lay out her campaign priorities. trump was notably not present at that event. but just days before, he wasn't iowa, rallying voters for a second time while desantis was there making his first campaign stop. soon, republican candidates will face new challengers in the already crowded primary field. this week, former vice president, mike pence, former
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new jersey governor, chris christie, and north dakota's governor doug burgum are expected to announce their official 2024 bids. join the pool of nine gop hopefuls facing off against donald trump. nbc news correspondent, vaughn hillyard, is live for us in des moines, iowa. this morning. vaughn, good morning to you, my friend. you had the chance to speak to ron desantis, mike pence, and asa hutchinson yesterday. explain to our viewers why iowa is so crucial to these candidates and frankly what are the voters telling is so far about the republican primary lineup that's getting even more crowded by the day? eight >> hey, good morning, my friend. first, number one, the iowa caucus is now just eight months away. formerly, this weekend, the rnc announced that august 23rd is the day of their first republican debate. there is a threshold for a certain percentage in the polls of support. it is gonna take candidates to get on the stage. it's also to take each
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candidate to get 45,000 donors from around the country. that's where the stakes of the next two months in the summer extra high. here in iowa, it's a place to start because yesterday was so different than other republican events that covered over the last eight years. donald trump was not there. he has taken up the oxygen from these rooms for years now. but with his lack of attendance at the roast and ride yesterday and the inclusion of all these other candidates, i was able to watch asa hutchinson, nikki haley, tim scott, mike pence, ron desantis as well, go around that room and shake the hands of everybody, take pictures, i asked ron desantis what it meant that he was there, that donald trump was not. he told me, with a bit of a smirk, that he was happy to meet everybody, and he loves iowans. it was just a subtle way of suggesting that he's here, he's listening, and he's gonna do what it takes to try to win the iowa caucus and supplant donald
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trump is the head of this republican party. >> you know, vaughn, what about that critical point for the rnc, to be able to participate in these debates you have to sign a pledge, that whoever the ultimate nominee ends up being, you are going to support him or her. are any of the other folks there, frankly, we know donald trump has said, no dice at this play, how about any of these other candidates? have a even mentioned whether not they're going to send that pledge to participate? >> i tried to ask ron desantis that question, he ignored it. and it's notable because there have been no republican candidates before yesterday that said that they would sign the pledge. donald trump, back in march, he said that he wasn't even sure he would sign the pledge because there are some republicans who doesn't know he get behind. one notable person was a set hutchins, in the former arkansas governor, i put this question to him because he's frankly been the loudest trump critic, the most explicit trump critic today on the campaign trail. and he told me that he will do what it takes to get on the
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debate stage. it was a wink at saying he will sign that loyalty pledge. of course, there is nothing, you know, come the time that one wins or loses, gonna hold them to account on that. it looks like we should expect the other candidates are gonna sign that pledge and it means a chance to go on the debate stage with donald trump. >> vaughn, we know nikki haley is gonna have a seat in town hall tonight, we also know how that worked for donald trump previously. what should we expect to hear take place during that town hall? >> right, nikki haley is trying to present herself as the new generation leader for the republican party. and so, it'll be interesting to see the contrast in which engages with those questions. i did have the chance to ask her yesterday in a quick pull-aside opportunity with her about donald trump social media posts on friday, in which he was congratulating kim jong-un. she told me that kim jong-un's a thug and a tyrant. the sort of contrast, didn't
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directly attack donald trump for his statement, but she drew a clear policy contrast and worldview contrast to battle donald trump there. the question is, is simply drawing policy contrast without going on the attack against donald trump, is that enough? tonight, over the course of the hour, i think it'll be a good indicator of the extent to which she on the campaign trail is willing to focus on donald trump as the men and a human versus donald trump and policies. >> vaughn, before i have to let you go, quickly, we have exclusive reporting from nbc news that a grand jury that's been investigating former president donald trump in terms of his handling or perhaps mishandling of classified documents, the grand jury has been on hiatus for a few weeks, on, it supporters to convene this week, that's usually a sign that there is the possibility that an indictment might be looming. what do you have or what have you heard in des moines about this news that has come out? >> we know that the special
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counsel has interviewed a great number of witnesses, including some of the aides closest to donald trump at mar-a-lago. and after the several week hiatus, it would suggest that the special counsel is looking to either continue their work or wrap up even potentially their work. there's no indication at this time that prosecutors are ready to try to indict the former president. but it is notable here that the special counsel in june is convening this grand jury again in what would amount to potentially very serious federal and criminal charges against the former president, ones that could really complicate a presidential campaign if in fact normally doesn't go to trial, but if he were to be found guilty, there would be a lot of question marks legally about his ability moving forward to not only run as a viable candidate, but to ultimately serving capacity as president again. >>, funder my friend, i appreciate you getting up and getting a start at the sunday
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morning. thank you for joining us. >> thanks, katie. , the celebration of pride month is leading to a lot of prejudice, but light and coals are just a few of the companies that are getting backlash from anti-lgbtq far-right groups. here's nbc news correspondent, stephanie gosk, with a closer look. rrespondent, stephanie gosk, with>> june is e is no messing it's kickoff, rainbow flags are everywhere. there are t-shirts, hats, apple has a watch, absolut vodka has a special bottle. >> companies have gotten more involved and pride is a sign of how the whole culture is changing. >> this year, the landscape has shifted. >> you're gonna get rainbows on that on everything across corporate america. >> some corporations stepping into a fierce fight over transgender issues. it plays out and state houses. >> when you bow your heads and prayer, you see the blood on your hands. >> and on cable news. >> the same people who encourage minors to have life -altering hormones and surgery on their genitalia, and even
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begin transitioning about parental consent, they have done and are doing enormous damage to young people. >> target moved its pride month merchandise, including transgender friendly bathing suit to the back of some of its stores after customer backlash. >> naked people on shirts. >> stop first of more than 15% in two weeks. >> i got bad lights for us. >> but like has a customizable can featuring transgender influencer, dylan mulvaney, triggering an outcry. a sales are up 30%. their calls to boycott goals because of its pride themed baby clothes, and north face, the outdoor company as well. >> we would like to call this little tour this summer of pride. >> transgender issues, they seem strange and scary to people. >> 20 states have passed bans on transgender medical treatment for minors. >> does this very angry debate cast a shadow over some of the progress that has been made? >> i think everyone is aware
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that issues seem to be subtle just a few years ago, they're up for grabs again. >> pride organizers across the country tell nbc news digital that they're once eager sponsors are now more hesitant, growing fearful of backlash that will target their bottom line. stephanie gosk, nbc news, new york. >> and our thanks to stephanie gosk for that report. we're gonna take a deeper dive on the pride month backlash. let's bring in professor michael brown ski. he is a professor of the practice in media and activism studies of women, gender, and sexuality at harvard university. he's also the author of a queer history of the united states for young people. he joins me now. professor, thank you for joining us this morning. we all know the tire trope of, quote, go woke, go broke, it's constantly being amplified across right-wing media. do you think these protests actually work or is it just virtue singling for the right? after although, targeted
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succumb to pressure and removed some of its lgbtq pride merchandise after confrontations shoppers. >> i think it depends on what you mean by do they work? they work with a certain part of the republican base. the royals them up, i'm sure it's very good for clickbait, i'm sure it's very good for fundraising. you know, will it work with the corporations? target caved in a little bit. certainly, bud light made some changes. north face and other companies have not. >> i think if we move beyond the initial attacks, we'll see more more companies not backing down. and i think what we're seeing over time is that the deluge of these attacks from -- will shift to something else. so, i don't think it's -- i don't think it's going to last. >> i mean, you know, professor, the big crux behind these kind
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of campaigns of hate though is to really hurt these companies at their bottom line in terms of their dollar. if you consider the following, the spending power of the lgbtq community and its allies, it's called the pink dollar, right? and it's pretty powerful. lgbt capital estimated to be 3.7 trillion dollars globally. that was back in 2019. could these boycotts actually backfire but for the right? >> they could. i mean, i think that the pink dollar is quite powerful. it's quite powerful globally, not only nationally. you know, i think it's something to keep in mind, i think it's an important aspect to keep in mind, and certainly the companies are watching their bottom line completely. of course, right? i think that focusing on this is a little bit of a misdirection in the sense that we should actually be focusing more on the right policies to
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make peoples lives better and the right ethical decisions people can make. but certainly, we should go back to, just to have everything to a bottom line, who's winning this contest, it's a very important. there is a much larger picture going on here as well. i do think you are correct. the pink dollar can actually window over people boycotting. the reality is that people actually go to disney because they want to go, they go to target cause it's close, the by bud light because they actually like it. i think most economic boycotts don't work in the long run. they may work in the short run. >> talk about companies maybe deciding to do the right thing, chick-fil-a, for example, it's actually ironically getting roasted for its vice president of diversity, equity, and inclusion, but roasted by the right. you know, professor, that vp, he's been with the company since 2020, he spent that
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company for three years. it's common practice for long-standing policies like having a dei vp, is that kind of common for sometimes those things to be swept up in present day outrage? >> completely, yes. we have to put this again in a larger perspective. these campaigns are being driven by a relatively few number of people, people on social media, by influencers, by people in certain news channels, certain personalities, where you showed a clip of ben shapiro before, you know, comparing these to rainbow vomit. they may be responding to these, you know, i think that in the case, chick-fil-a, somebody joked that chick-fil-a's not being homophobic enough rather than being pro gay. you know, i think that the oil go digging and find out whatever they can to cause
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outrage. again, i do think these are working in the short range, but not the long range. >> the human rights campaign says that there have been more than 520 pieces of anti lgbtq legislation introduced in red state legislatures across the country, just this past year, mainly targeting transgender kids. just about every anti lgbtq protesters says something like, think of the children. what messaging is the sending to kids, frankly, you and i both know they're watching and they're listening. >> yes, they are. i think that this is not a new message about lgbtq people. 1977, 70, a the save the children campaign, right? we've seen in the 1930s with the campaign against sexual psychopaths. so, the notion of targeting gay and lesbian people in order to protect the innocence of children, you know, it's interesting that in fact the
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campaign save the children, and all the code word is grooming children. apparently it wasn't saving, this rhetoric. you know, i think has a damaging effect on young people. it makes them feel like, well, in two ways, if a young person's lgbt, they may feel targeted, they may feel they can't come out or speak to their parents, their teachers, right? if they're not lgbt, they may feel that they cannot defend friends in school, they cannot make friends and their neighborhood. their parents may feel that if a child who's a friend who has two lesbian moms or to gay dads, they shouldn't go over to their house. i think that actually, i think that the effect of these bills, many of which i believe will be overturned when they go into appeal. in fact, some of them already are. some of them have been overturned, right? we'll have a lasting effect on children's life.
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>> professor michael, i thank you for joining us this morning, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> and coming up, one-on-one with -- i'll speak with the former presidents niece on all things politics, mounting legal problems for her uncle, and romance novels, yes, you heard me right, romance novels. that is straight ahead. and then later, storms are brewing, what to expect as the atlantic hurricane season gets underway. you're watching the katie phang show. stay with us. stay with us want a worry-free way to kill bugs? zevo traps use light to attract and trap flying insects with no odor and no mess. they work continuously, so you don't have to. zevo. people-friendly. bug-deadly.
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up compelling evidence and persuasive testimony, the multiple investigations into donald trump are coming to a head. nbc news exclusive reporting the federal grand jury of the trump classified documents case is expected to meet this upcoming week. meanwhile, he's losing the blind support of high-profile republicans that have come to his defense over the years, as ron desantis, chris christie,
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mike pence, and more 2024 hopefuls are distancing themselves from their former party leader. who better to break down this inflection point for trump than our next guest. joining me now is mary trump, host of the mary trump show podcast, author of too much and never enough, how my family created the world's most dangerous man, and the reckoning, our nation's trauma and finding a way to heal. also the niece of donald j trump. mary, my friend, it's always so good to see you, let's talk about some politics first. the crowded republican primary field for the presidential nomination is giving a lot of people some 2016 déjà vu. this time around, donald is in the midst of several very serious legal investigations and cases. already been indicted by the manhattan d.a.. and we see news is exclusively reporting the grand jury in the mar-a-lago documents case is said to me at this week. assuming, very, he's indicted, i think it's 20 many indictments to come. will he take everyone down with him if he thinks his ship is truly thinking? >> katie, first of all, it's
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great to be here. secondly, yes. i think that was a rhetorical question, i'm gonna answered anyway, he absolutely will, he could not possibly handle the thought that somebody would take away what he believes is rightly his. in this case, is the republican presidential nomination for 2024. unfortunately, perhaps fortunately, the republican party doesn't seem to have learned that in 2016, a crowded field benefits donald. as we have seen so far, the other candidates for the nomination are doing what i think josh marshall referred to, trying to out-donald donald. one, that's impossible, to, it's sort of reminds us that narcissism can make people really stupid. >> suffice to say, as the title of your last book suggests, america has been traumatized for a number of reasons.
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i would say a lot of it, mary, storms from the divisive and hateful politics that has become our country. how can we survive the next presidential election cycle and not be re-, especially by somebody like donald trump? >> yeah, it's going to be difficult. i think it's important to be upfront about that and understand what we're in for. you know, it's going to be a long and difficult election season. if we remember, first of all, that there are more of us than there are them, and if we organize and hang on to that knowledge, also understand that the fight they fight is gonna be a 31, we need to respond accordingly. the second thing is, in the process of this nomination, republican party may well tear itself apart or at the very least, we can itself in a way
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that will be helpful for democracy. >> but how should mainstream media handle this 2024 election cycle? so far, we've seen runaway town halls and networks that continue to court election deniers. >> katie, it's really shocking. you know, i haven't had much hope for the mainstream media sends probably the iraq war. you know, in 2016, it was -- reporting. this notion that both sides deserve equal time, even though one of those sides is constantly lying. by the way, undermining democracy, it's pretty shocking, even though i guess it isn't surprising anymore. first of all, i have never quite understood why they continue to treat donald trump as a normal candidate. i think the very first thing that should be said about him when anybody's reporting on anything he's doing is that he is the perpetrator of the big
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lie, which was one of the most egregious attempts to undermine the fate of the american people in free and fair elections. and to, that he incited, planned, and led an insurrection against his own government. those are the first two things anybody should hear about this man who unbelievably enough, because of our deeply broken system, is being allowed to run for president again. >> you know, mary, i want you to stay with us. we have the privilege and the luxury of being able to have you for another block. i also want to tease that later on in the show, we are going to have some coverage about a censorship by. there is a parent in escambia county florida who's actually fighting back against book bans. mary is gonna be with us after take a quick break. take a quick break buy one footlong, get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that's a deal worth celebrating. man, what are you doing?! get it before it's gone on the subway app. ♪♪ age is just a number,
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father alive. i'm always fascinated about his story. he was a self made man. he actually was a professional pilot for twa. ultimately, was destroyed by trump family dynamics from your grandfather more specifically. donald though seized the opportunity to step into the void created by your father not going into that family real estate empire. you have made it clear that donald is an opportunist, hills do whatever it takes to get what he wants, he loathed humiliation. his opponents for the gop primary, take a page out of donald trump's playbook and go for the jugular? >> katie, it amazes me that they have not done that yet. again, i think it's because they're restrained by their fear of his stranglehold on the base. i guess they should be. you know, if they were serious people, they would understand
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that they have a huge opportunity to take donald out without having to contradict him in terms of policy as if there is such a thing these days or politics. just call him what he is he, is a loser. he loses constantly. he is never legitimately won anything in his life. he is a thin skinned baby who has nothing to offer but white grievance. if i were one of these candidates, i would simply show up to a debate with a bull of mashed potatoes because that was his very first experience of humiliation, when he was being a total bra, before my grandmother put dinner on the table. my dad had just ordered to shut him up and stop him from tormenting's little brother, rahmat, took a bullet match potatoes, dumped on donald ted. he hates that story. he has never been able to laugh at himself in a healthy way.
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it really is not, sorry, it's really not difficult to get under that extraordinarily thin skin of his. >> you know, mary, i want to shift gears. you and i have been friends for a while. i am really excited about a new project that you're doing. i don't know how you have the time because you do 1 million and one things. you have a new romance novel, serial. you're collaborating with our other good friends, e. jean carroll and john to be able to get this done. i want to put out these teasers for our viewers right now. it is being published on substack. i have a mysterious american ex pat, anastasia, in italy, it dashing italian named danilo, a cozy coffee shop and a tabby cat named -- there is also a cat cameo going on behind you right now. what can you tell us about this new romance serial called the italian list? >> first of all, great
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pronunciation. thank you for that. >> i studied italian a little bit. >> very good. unfortunately, i cannot tell you much about the story, as you mentioned, it's been serialized, it will be coming out in two or three paged snippets at a time to keep people interested. probably, to me, certainly, the most important thing about this story is the circumstances under which came to be. we created this zoom group of friends who, i think, for the most part, had not really met before covid, i certainly have not met anybody before my book came out. and we started a knitting group, we met via zoom. i guess it's a way to make sure that we stayed in better touch. somebody came up with the idea of writing a script for a hallmark movie. i had never seen a hallmark movie, i thought, why not? eventually, over time, we decided to do a novel. i wrote a lot of fiction when i was younger.
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that is sort of my familiar. despite the fact that i have never read a romance novel either, i thought, you know, this could be really healthy, this is the kind of project i can working in a collaborative way. it has. jen is editing, and e. jean is sort of our romance novel in-house specialist. also, everyone check this out, i think it's the coolest thing happening, she is directly responding to readers comments on the post on substack. it has been, i think, an experiment in friendship and fiction writing. so far, it's just an absolute joy. >> well, joyce and i want to know, is there knitting? will there be knitting in the italian lesson? that's a big question mark. >> there will be netting, that in groups, knitting patterns, there will also be phenomenal recipes for italian food. and a whole bunch of other
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things happening outside the scope of the story. but story and friendship are really the two main focuses here, as well as creating a new community that is entirely outside the realm of politics. >> you know, mary trump, before we let you go, that's the important part about this conversation, there is places and ways to find joy during a time where we are sustaining, i think, a nationwide trauma, we're all banding together to be able to find something to propel us forward. i'm enjoying the italian less, and i invite everyone tuning in right now to check it out. i'm excited for you. always proud and always very honored to have you with me. mary trump, thank you for joining me this morning. >> thank you so much, my friend. >> and coming up next on the katie phang show, censorship fights, parents suing a school district in florida over book banning. one of those parents joins me live to discuss. live to discuss.
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far-right's efforts to ban books, florida's grand zero. in the scandia county, an area in the states panhandle, parents are fighting back. in a brand-new lawsuit, p.e.n. america, penguin random house, a group of authors, unto parents, they're suing the escambia county school district, alleging that the district and the board violated the first amendment when it restricted
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and removed books from shelves. they also argue the removals violated the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment by banning books related to race and lgbtq identity. so far, more than 150 books have been challenged and restricted in escambia county alone. you know the saying, knowledge is power, but what happens when that knowledge is censored and taken away? joining me now is doctor lindsey, she is one of the parents suing the escambia county school district and board. doctor, it's so good to have you here on the show, i'm also a florida resident, i have an eight year old daughter who goes to public school elementary school. the book bans are especially important for us to talk about. the lawsuit that you're part of, interestingly doesn't target rhonda sentences anti woke laws or directives. and instead focuses on the affront to the first mom and other constitutional rights. my question for you, out of the gate, why go the route, route,
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depends on how you pronounce, it right? the judicial system versus maybe getting out of maybe protesting in the streets? >> well, i think the days of protesting in the streets are probably over. the best way for parents to get involved is to join a lawsuit such as this. the days for writing letters are done. the reason we're targeting the school board is because all politics are in fact local. as a parent to kids in the public school system, we, i have been personally very vocal but my concern over the banning of books of any kind in our schools. right, left, doesn't matter, any book banning is wrong. america had gone away to supporter voices against censorship and the students first money writes. getting directly to the school board, it seemed like the best target. >> he, no doctor, you're the mom of two kids, they're six and nine, also going to elementary school. you said, my kids are gonna get
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a comprehensive education, good, bad, ugly, they're gonna know about history, they're gonna but what happens in this world, in my home. but you're fighting the fight for all children regardless of who their parents are, regardless of what their families are, why is that? >> i mean, we want all of our kids to be competitive at a national level. i want people to want to move to the county, i want to economy to grow. why would anybody bring their family to the county of the not gonna be competitive on a national level academically? but it's our schools responsibility to maintain a comprehensive collection of diverse material near libraries. we've got so many parents, some of the teachers who are absolutely afraid to speak up, they can't speak up for whatever reason. so, it's time for parents like myself to stop sitting on our hands and to do something about it. >> doctor, you're actually and optometrist in the local community, you have an office there, as we mentioned, your kids go to the local schools.
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you know, it's bravery to get out and speak out. it's also bravery to be a part of this litigation. are you fearful in any way about back last year business and maybe even to your kids in school? >> of course. i think it would be silly for me not to think about those things. my community is incredibly important to me. i've got nothing but positive results are positive feedback from our community. as far as my kids getting bullied in school, we're really lucky that we go to a very diverse school. one of the few really great schools in this county unfortunately. as far as the backlash, i don't see that coming. i hope that doesn't happen. but as this gets larger. it's already bigger than i thought it would ever become. so, there is always that fear. it's just something that we have to deal with as those
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threats come. again, i hope they never do. i think the majority of our community is on board with this viewpoint. >> very quickly, doctor, before have to let you go, you said something that i read. you said, we are going to teach you how to tie it tourniquet in case of an active shooter. these kids cannot know that men and women may not be the only option for a marriage license. i share your concerns because i think they go through active shooter drills all the time, they're not getting access to books that top voter true history is, what do you think is gonna be the outcome of this lawsuit? to make sure the books are returned to the shelves? >> yes. i think beyond the national discussion that this is promoting, i think it's wonderful, again, larger than i thought it would be. i think it's important that we learn to trust our teachers and media specialists to do their job. what they have been trained to do. we're asking them to go above and beyond what they probably
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feel comfortable doing. but we cannot trust them to choose age-appropriate media for a children. that is kind of where a lot of teachers and media specialist, educators, they're drawing the line. we're losing very talented and very invested educators in the state of florida, all across the state, due to book banning, due to legislation that keeps their hands tied. i just hope to give them back the freedom they have worked so hard to have. >> dr. lindsey from escambia county, i wish you luck with your lawsuit. definitely come back and keep us posted on how it goes. thank you for being here, i appreciate you. >> yes, thank you, katie. have a good morning. >> you too. coming up, trouble is brewing, the atlantic hurricane season gets underway. thousands are still recovering from last season's fury in states like florida. what to expect this season and have a climate change is connected. that is coming up next. that is coming up next
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on day one of our hurricane season, technically was not even the first tropical storm this year, according to noaa, stub tropical storm formed in the atlantic basin mid january, it never reached name status. what's a reaction to the fact that the atlantic is coming alive? we have storms already in the book, and it's only june 4th, hurricane season runs for six months. >> yeah, takes me back to the lessons of my grandma shared when she said, when you know better, do better. we have seen the devastation these storms can bring, now the way these higher temperatures on our water, we know that there is some scenarios that might play out. we should give folks quick context, thousands of lives have been lost, we also spent about over two trillion dollars over the last 40 years. we have seen how quickly these storms can accelerate, just looking at what happened last year with iain. we should be prepared and make sure the steps are in place to protect peoples lives.
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>> talking about preparedness, the national hurricane center ruled out a brand-new system this year that's gonna predict how high storm surge will hit. they're gonna get three days warnings the for a hurricane makes landfall. this is also the first year that puerto rico and the u.s. virgin islands would be included in the storm surge forecast. do you think having just this extra day, one extra day, it's gonna help cities evacuate and allow people to prepare earlier? >> well, it's so critical, especially for most vulnerable communities and locations that exist across both continental united states and the island nation. having that additional time will help folks who often don't have the resources to escape or to be able to hunker down to get better prepared. i'm so excited about these additional resources that noah has to help us be better prepared. these critical moments we face. >> i have less than a minute, i did want to ask, climate conditions like sea level rise,
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