first, i ask for your support. i believe in my heart that we can turn this country around. what we did once we will do again. but we had not long ago, we will have once more. but even better. secondly, i ask you to remember who we are. remember what we've done. a careful study of american history shows every time the american people have been called upon to do hard things, the american people have always risen to the challenge. we crossed the delaware river. we weathered the terrible winter at valley forge. we faced yorktown, made an empire wave a white flag. we wrote a constitution that changed the course of history. we held the hills of gettysburg.

we fought through the wilderness and threw open the doors of richmond slave jails, all to save the constitution and renew its promise of equality and freedom. we stormed the sands and scaled the cliffs of normandy. we drove tanks through the gates, we planted the stars and stripes on iwo jima and saved civilization. we marched on washington and won the right of suffrage for women. we marched over the edmund petttus build. we about built rockets to the moon. we built the largest economy, the greatest military in history, and we buried the soviet union beneath it. the american people are always there for one another.

when neighbors are hurting, strangers load up their minivans and head that way. whether it was when the towers fell and people rushed across the country to search through the rubble or whether it was when the winds blew here in iowa and the floodwaters rose. so i ask you to remember who we are. if you are attempted to despair. we're americans. and there's nothing we can't accomplish together. [ applause ] one of those americans left us 30 years ago. my father was a combat veteran who came home from the korean war with a medal on his chest.

a bronze star for valor that went in the drawer. never to be spoken of again. when dad's platoon came under heavy fire, he led his man across a mine field to safety. until the day he died, he seldom spoke of those days in korea. battles. he didn't need to. he was called to fight for his country and he did his duty. he never considered himself a hero. our dad used to say the heros were the guys that didn't get to come home. but that kid from the south side of chicago was called to defend america oceans away, to stand against a superior force under withering fire, and he answered like generations that had gone before. this is not my father's story.

this is america's story. all of us have always risen to the challenge. as i sod, my father kept that bronze star in the dresser drawer but throughout my public career my family has let me keep it close. it traveled with me to the congress, to the governor's office and to the white house. for me it was always a reminder that our challenges don't demand acts of valor quite like he summoned and americans have displayed throughout our history, but a reminder fulfilling our role and our part, to keep the flame of liberty alive, and vibrant for the next generation requires each of us to summon our best, find the grace to see the best in one another, and face the future with courage.

never forget where we've been and what we've done. above all else, who we are. the american people are the most freedom loving, faith-filled, idealistic generous people the world has ever known. the american people have always been great. we just need government as good as our people. and we'll have it and we'll have it soon. and when we do, the time we're passing through today will only be a footnote in history. finally and lastly, i ask for your prayers. for me, for my family. and for all of the american people. you know, we don't know what future holds. but we know who holds the future. the bible says where the spirit of the lord is there's liberty.

and i believe with all my heart, god is not done with america yet. and if we turn our hearts back to the author and finisher of our faith and freedom, freedom's story, the american story, has only just begun. and the best days of the greatest nation on earth, are yet to come. [ applause ] so let's get to work. thank you. god bless you and god bless america. >> former vice president mike pence kicking off his long-shot campaign for president and in some ways sounding like the frontrunner, donald trump, claiming in his speech that the radical left has weakened america and that there are crises everywhere. he also made it clear, and he talked about this in multiple points, that the foundation of his campaign is the constitution and his decision to follow the

tuesday on january 6th may the thing that makes his campaign such an uphill climb. his standing ovation came when he said trump asked him to choose between him and the constitution and i chose the constitution and i always will. that is not the feeling of the base of the party. but certainly of that friendly crowd there in iowa. we're going to continue to follow that for you, but in the meantime while mike pence was talking, we got breaking news. there's a ground stop at la guardia airport. look at this airport. the smoky haze that has settled on the new york area from the skyline of manhattan, this is the smoke from canadian wildfires. it has impacted hundreds of flights at airports in new york. they are some of the busiest airports in the country. we can show you a look at emergency where newark international airport is. normally from there, just beyond the highway, you can see the airport. but not so much today.

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new reporting from "the new york times" says that mark meadows, the final white house

chief of staff under president trump, has testified to a grand jury in the special counsel investigation of his former boss. nbc's garrett haake is covering every angle of this story. what do we know? >> i've tried to reach out to meadows to confirm that reporting. shouldn't be surprising he has finally spoken to the special counsel. he's been at the center of both branches of the special investigation, everything leading up to january 6th within the special counsel's purview. we know from the committee what a central role meadows played in that. even in the aftermath of the trump presidency in the early stages of the post-presidency, researching and writing his book, appears meadows may have intersected with the classified documents portion of the special counsel's probe. he's right in the middle of it. taylor budowich, the maga aide who testified and said his testimony today was about past statements he had made about what president trump had known about the existence of these classified documents at

mar-a-lago. a lot of moving parts here in recent days and weeks and everything i can see, trump world seems to be preparing for the possibility of an indictment. you can see it from the former president's social media posts talking about election interference, to even a new ad that his team put out today that will be coming to television screens around the country that takes this tactic, when it comes to the investigations against him. listen. >> they already know he'll crush biden, so like a pack of rabid wolves they attack, so let's impeach him, let's get tainted radical left prosecutors to charge him, conspire with hillary and the fbi with fake stories about him. >> the section about the prosecutors linking the special counsel jack smith with the former special counsel robert mueller, back with jim comey and alvin bragg is strategic. donald trump has, at least in the new york case, pretty effectively forced the republican party to pick a side,

either with trump or with a liberal manhattan prosecutor. they're going it to try to do the same thing when it comes to jack myth. they will argue a biden justice department appointee is going after them for political reasons and a an ad like this with those social media posts he lays the groundwork politically for what mr. trump has up until now tried to do, turn his legal problems into political advantages in the 2024 campaign. >> the mantra of a lot of what's happening in america these days. pick a side. garrett haake, thank you so much. opening statements got under way in the groundbreaking trial of scot peterson, the former school resource officer accused of failing to confront the gunman during the deadly be parkland school shooting in florida. lindsey riser is following that for us. what's the latest from the courtroom? >> reporter: chris, the association of school resource officers said they believe this is the first case of its kind in which an officer in the u.s. is being tried for allegedly failing to act during a school

shooting. 32-year law enforcement veteran scot peterson you see on your screen here, retired and was retroactively fired, he's been charged now. he was the only one on campus on february 14th, 2018, with a handgun when the shooter went into marjory stoneman douglas high school killing 17 and injuring 17 more. security footage revealed that peterson never tried to enter the building where the shooter was and said he took cover against a nearby wall. he's actually been branded the coward of broward. prosecutors say that his actions show he knew the shots were coming from inside, and he could have prevented in of the shootings. 7 counts of child neglect, three counts of culpable negligence and one count of perjury and accused of lying to officials. peterson said he's being thrown under the bus and thought the shots were coming from an outside sniper based on the echo and reverberations and blamed chaos and miscommunication on

the scene. let's listen to the prosecution and the defense during today's opening arguments. >> the charges all stem from the third floor. they're all from people who passed away on the third floor or injured on the third floor, but overall, it was a unspeakable, horrible thing. >> so what we have here is a man with a decade history of serving the community, for 32 years, and literally in 4 minutes and 15 seconds, they're claiming he became a criminal. >> so the prosecution there saying only it regards to the third floor. those are the victims who were injured or killed after peterson had already gotten to the area. not the first floor before he had gotten there. in order to gain a conviction prosecutors must show peterson knew the shots were coming from inside and his lack of action possibly led to more harm. chris? >> lindsey riser, thank you. three new candidates in the

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just a short time ago, mike pence becoming the third republican to jump in the presidential race just in the past 24 hours.

walking this fine line of touting the accomplishments of the trump presidency and insisting january 6th should disqualify trump from seeking re-election. >> i believe that anyone who puts themselves over the constitution should never be president of the united states. and anyone who asks someone else to put them over the constitution should never be president of the united states again. >> pence's words coming just hours after former new jersey governor chris christie made it clear his scorched earth campaign against donald trump will be central to his run for president. >> the person i am talking about, who is obsessed with the mirror, who never admits a mistake, who never admits a fault, and who always finds someone else and something else to blame for whatever goes wrong, but finds every reason to take credit for anything that goes right, is donald trump.

that then you've got north dakota's governor doug burgum trying to translate small town values into a viable candidacy but he has deep personal pockets. steve patterson is covering that campaign for us in fargo. political correspondent steve kornacki at the big board. vaughn hill lard and the political and investigative reporter at the new york times. do you see this as a campaign where ideas break through, or are we looking at something else here? is it about donald trump? is it about bombbass? >> talk about the visuals where steve is at in north dakota and in iowa and new hampshire where chris christie was yesterday. at this point they have no option but to do exactly what mike pence laid out there to the voters. on january 6th he was given the choice, donald trump or the constitution. he said that he went with the

constitution. and for him, for chris christie, who helped donald trump with debate prep in 2020 against joe biden, there is that line that they are going to have to use, because they defended donald trump, they defended his policies, defended his statements, all the way up until that point here. so for the voters, mike pence, chris christie, they will have to make the case to voters, yes, we were on board with donald trump to this point, but we moved on, this is why you need to move on too. >> pence has been around the block. he's got to be a realist here. that's part of it. the other part that i thought was amusing, nick, we talked the last hour about "the wall street journal" op-ed and they called pence, they said pence had all the zing of a mayonnaise sandwich, and in introducing him, one of pence's folks actually referenced that. take a listen. >> this morning i read that somebody said mike pence can be a lot like mao place in on toast. and i -- let me just suggest

this, i think you're going to get to know the mike pence that we know, congressman pence and i know, there's a lot of iowa bacon, maybe a little tabasco sauce in that toast too. >> do you have to have that at the very least, because whatever else you want to say about donald trump, he commands a room. >> look. i think it's fascinating to think that mike pence, eight years ago, would have been the model of a candidate for president for the gop. he hits all the boxes. he's socially conservative, a man of faith, an economic conservative, strong former presiden -- foreign policy. shows you how much the party has changed. he's running against his own former boss donald trump and the question he is posing to the electorate, how much do you really care about all the things that we said we cared about for so many years, or is this really about grievance and personality and showmanship? we'll see. >> one of the things, again, that chris christie said last

night, he is a man that speaks in sound bites so we'll acknowledge that, he talked about the fact that there are so many people who still don't even want to say the name trump, let alone criticize him the way christie did last night. take a listen. >> we have pretenders all around us who want to tell you, pick me. because i'm kind of like what you picked before. but not quite as crazy. but i don't want to say his name. because for these other pretenders, he is, for those of you who read the harry potter books, like voldemort. he who should not be named. >> you've been covering him for a long time and i think that you have said that he has the charisma and the pure talent of somebody who, again, if we're going to go back to what used to

make a presidential candidate, could really sort of channel people's anger without coming off as angry himself. chris christie, 2023, can he do it? >> he's a natural brawler and a great retail politician. he's good with the sound bite and great on a debate stage. he is making no secret of the fact that part of his job is to take out trump on his own terms. i think he's got one thing right. you can't beat trump in the primary without beating trump. you can't go around him. you have to beat him. we are seeing changes here. ron desantis, the florida governor, has started to put the word trump into our thoughts more in his comments on the trail. >> and mike pence just now. >> you can't beat him without beating him. >> steve kornacki that brings us to you. you've been looking at mike pence, his odds and the historic nature of a former vp running against an old boss. >> take a look here at where pence starts at. this was the monmouth poll from

a week ago here. trump the leader right now, desantis the only other candidate in double digits and then the former vice president mike pence at 3%. he starts out 40 points behind his former boss. the other liability pence brings, they're asking favorable or unfavorable. what's your impression of these candidates. note that number for mike pence, 35% unfavorable, that's the second worst number of this republican field. second only to chris christie. 47% of republicans view christie unfavorably. pence and christie by far with the highest unfavorable scores against republicans. january 6th all the things that trump said about mike pence betraying him, there does seem to be a segment of the republican party that feels that way and agrees with donald trump. for a strategy, he launched in iowa and talked about iowa in

the opening sentence of his speech right there. it is to go after the social conservative, evangelical christians in the iowa caucuses in particular, perhaps more than almost any other primary or caucus on the republican side, even evangelical christians who loom as the decisive block. evangelical christians made up 64% of the iowa republican caucus electorate. the trend, the iowa winners, ted cruz, rick santorum and mike huckabee won that group. pence is thinking i'm sure here if he can get through the group in iowa, iowa could be the slingshot. winning the evangelical vote in iowa has not been a sling shot because when they go to new hampshire far fewer evangelical voters there and many other states, and it hasn't necessarily translated. pence looking to jump start his campaign in iowa with evangelical christians and just quickly you asked about the historic nature of the vice

president running against the president, the former vice president and former president, once working together, now running against each other, three times, 1800, thomas jefferson and john adams. the way it worked back then, they run against each other in 1796, jefferson came in second place. they were enemies already when they ran in 1800. 1844, probably the closest parallel to what we're looking at right now. martin van buren a former president ran again for the democratic nomination and richard johnson had been his vice president. a former vice president. they both sought the democratic nomination in 1844. they both lost. james polk actually became the democratic nominee and the president and the only other example you have to go back more than 80 years, fdr when he ran for his third term in 1940, vice president john garner challenged him at the democratic convention, went nowhere. roosevelt won the convention, roosevelt won the third term.

>> steve kornacki with my history lesson for today only 515 days until election day. appreciate you that. that brings me to steve patterson, north dakota. we see that list of 10 or more candidates on the republican side. frankly, governor burgum has to know most don't know who he is. what makes him think he has a shot here? >> he's well aware. as you were speaking about kondsments earlier. he's going all mayonnaise and proud of it. he wants to do it this way and believes that there is a silent majority of republicans who are fiscally minded, big business, small government, who want a small town economic nerd in the white house. he truly believes that. he thinks he can win based on being a counter balance to pence and trump and desantis. he is not playing the culture battle whatsoever from his

standpoint. there's things he's done to signal some of that. he signed some legislation lately that makes it very difficult to have an abortion in north dakota, maybe more difficult than anywhere else in the country. makes it difficult to be transgender, banning certain things like pronouns and being in athletics and gender affirming care. those things, he has signed off on. he won't talk about it. that is not going to be part of his campaign. nor will the mud slinging. he will not again, bring up his opponents in a way that is derogatory. he really wants to focus on the issues that he finds important to americans, which are the economy, generating business, now, and safe energy production. he believes that is the key in being the counter balance and being the different candidate that the republican party needs. chris? >> all right. von hill lard, steve batterson, nick confessore, thank you so much. really appreciate it. we have to go back to the

brendel from la guardia airport where a ground stop was issued over smoke from the wildfires in canada and it's not better across the east coast and midwest. poor air quality for folks on their way to and from work, school, grocery stores, in connecticut one man told our local affiliate this morning's sunrise is eerie. a bright red sun peeking through layers of haze and the yankees game last night, clouds of smog envelling that iconic stadium. bill karins is here. i'm joined by nbc's tom costello as well as msnbc medical contributor dr. natalie azar. let me start with the breaking news because first of all, i'm curious why la guardia, jfk is close, and then you have newark and you have lots of airports in the path of this big haze, this smoke coming down from the north. first, tell us the breaking news, but also, are there lots over places at risk right now. >> pardon me as i look off screen to a computer on an faa

database on what's happening at airports. here's where we stand. laguardia did have a pause for a while. no activity. that's been lifted. here's where we stand. laguardia airports arrivals delayed by about 100, 119 minutes, two hours on arrivals into laguardia. departures delayed by 30 minutes. newark, delayed by 82 minutes. philadelphia i wanted to check. we had some delays. 29 minutes. i was surprised that so far, yeah, that's right, it's 29 minutes, 30 minutes out of philadelphia on the ground delay because of the smoke and haze. i was surprised so far, i don't see boston as being affected and here in d.c., it certainly is not as bad as knock but we have thick haze over the city and the air traffic into and out of d.c. at the moment not dramatically affected. at the moment, this is a newark

story, a laguardia story, a philly story, but as the smoke plume moves, you can expect other airports will be affected. you have to wonder why jfk is not affected. i presume that's a bill karins question. largely it has to do with the wind. >> i mean, first of all, let's point out we're at the start of a very, very heavy summer travel season, but bill karins, let me show you, there's an amazing picture, this is the earth cam over manhattan. this is insanity. kwon that i've ever seen anything like this. tell us a little bit more about what we're seeing and can you answer my question, tom's question about sort of the way the winds may be affecting what gets grounded, what doesn't, who's got horrible air quality and whose is only bad? >> chris, let me give you the breaking news first. new york city is now in the hazardous air quality. that's extremely rare. almost never happened in new york city's history.

this has been since the late '90s. something none of us have seen before. the air outside that i'm in, why i'm wearing the mask. it goes from unhealthy, very unhealthy, to hazardous. only syracuse today and scranton and now new york city have reached this hazardous category. not just hazardous for people who have have respiratory issues or elderly, that's for everyone you see. the new york health department telling everyone outside you should be wearing a mask or stay indoors. this is not air you want to be breathing. it got so dark in the last hour the street lights came on. that's how thick and dense the smoke is. keep in mind, this isn't like a fire that's in new jersey or the catskills. this fire is in quebec. 500, 600, 700, 800 miles away from here. this air mass is really thick, dangerous stuff. it's now settling towards philadelphia new york city, areas of pennsylvania. it's going to make it ways

towards maryland, delaware, virginia, washington, d.c., and you'll wake up similar to this tomorrow. chris, this is unprecedented, dangerous air quality. i can't stress that enough. more and more people are starting to wear masks that you see walking around, but probably not enough. i'm sure our doctor will tell you that. >> thank you. we appreciate that. let me start with the most obvious thing, dr. natalie, n-95 mask, right. what is going to help people who have to go out in this? >> yeah. we recommend n-95 the one that will trap the particulates. we have a natural barrier in our large airway and in our nose hairs and things like that that can remove larger particles bus the smaller particles we need help on. so the n-95, even if you have a surgical mask or anything that you can have right now is better than nothing. given that there might be some larger particulate matter in the air. an n-95 is what we recommend. i have to tell you, chris, bill,

when i sat down about a half hour ago to do this segment, i googled on air now.gov, the epa's website, plug in their zip code and find out what their air quality is. we were at 235. bill started talking about the hazardous level and it's changed and that is really a concern and i do want people to take this seriously. at levels of 200 to above 300, anyone in the general population, we're not just talking about people with respiratory illnesses or the elderly or the young or pregnant women, those groups that we always know are vulnerable, everybodyp can theoretically be impacted by this. >> let me ask you about the impact if i can because it was, i don't know, 7, 8 hours i walked into work, 10, 12 minutes. by the time i got here my eyes were on fire. i don't have any underlying conditions. i don't think i have any problems. i didn't have any problems breathing. having said that, what are the very real and immediate affects

people will feel at these levels even if you don't have underlying conditions and folks who do how dangerous could this be? >> right. for most of us who potentially don't have any underlying medical conditions it might be irritation, right, of the eyes, nose, throat a dry cough. but than can change and so the concern that we have, of course, is that people may or may not know that they have any underlying cardiovascular or pulmonary diseases, but think about this, even if you have underlying heart disease and do not have known lung disease you're working harder to breathe can affect your heart. it's an indirect effect. not like it's going to cause a heart attack but anything that stresses the lung system, the heart system, and that's when we get into a cycle of concern. a lot of people walking around, immunocompromised, more susceptible to this poor air quality. >> tom, if i can go back to you for a second, as i'm thinking about the summer travel season

and about the fact that, you know, in any kind of weather situation, things can change on a dime. i'm assuming that this is going to be tricky for a lot of people who may be flying in the next 24, 48 hours. we don't know exactly how long. things cap change and it is what it is. it's not about the airlines or airports. >> when people get upset, remember, this is an faa issue. this is not an airline issue. and to that point, moments ago, as you're talking to dr. natalie, the update from the faa, i'm going to read it, as of 1430 eastern time, 2:30, the faa has slowed traffic to and from the new york city area airports due to reduced visibility from the wildfire smoke. the faa will adjust the volume of traffic to account for the rapidly changing conditions. if you want to monitor this from home fly.faa.gov. the faa is telling me at this

moment no other significant impacts at other airports. at the moment this is a new york city issue. >> so maybe i'm wrong, i'm making an assumption, tom, that jfk is the biggest, if not certainly one of the biggest airports in the country for international flights. >> right. >> so what do they do in this situation? if it's -- well they wouldn't be landing at laguardia. they're only landing at jfk. do they divert? what do they do in these situations? >> you're right. at the moment, jfk is not on this list which is a little surprising. but should the wind shift enough this is impacting jfk operations, if you have an inbound international flight, a 777, 787 that needs a long runway, so newark would be the option. laguardia is not an option. they could, if necessary, go to boston. or philly or here in d.c. down to dulles. but we'll have to see how this

plays out. that would be if jfk is affected and arriving flights are impacted we have to see if outbound flights are impacted. the outbound flights to europe, an international airport, they usually start banking out at about 5:00 p.m. or so into the evening so we'll have to see how this looks into the evening. we are right now in the time frame when all the inbound international flights are coming in from europe and jfk. >> the truth of the matter is, we have had a lot of people who have been saving their european trips over the course of covid and those flights tend to be full, full, full. tom costello -- >> one more thought. >> just looking at that picture, first of all, oh, my gosh. this is absolutely horrific. >> that's wild. >> it's not just -- of course passenger air travel, helicopter traffic over new york city is vital. police operation, fire operation, the local news radio choppers, all of that, they're going to have a difficult time operating in this haze round.

i haven't checked. i can go and check but wouldn't be surprised if they're going to be impacted by this as well. >> i know we're probably running out of time, my producer will get in my ear, let me ask you, dr. azar, to put a punctuation mark on everything that you have said, people i saw out this morning, who were running, and exercising, sitting outside and eating, don't do it? is it that simple? >> it is that simple. my son runs track. they canceled his track meet tonight. we live in new jersey. i wasn't going to let him run because he has asthma. doors and windows closed. wear your mask outside. now is a good time to invest in a hvac system. the hepa filtration. this probably suspect the last time this is going to happen. >> dr. azar and tom costello, thank you very much. guns are now the leading killer of children ages 1 to 17 in north carolina and governor

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in maryland, a deadly school -- a deadly shooting at the funeral for a 10-year-old girl who was also dead because of gunfire. family had gathered to remember ariana davis who was killed when a stray bullet went through a car window on mother's day. at some point during the burial, gunfire broke out. one man was killed and another person injured. it's not clear what led up to that shooting. in virginia two dead, five others injured after a shooting outside a high school graduation ceremony in richmond. officials identified the victims killed as shawn jackson, an 18-year-old who had just gotten his diploma and his step dad renzo smith. police charged the 19-year-old gunman with two counts of

second-degree murder. the mayor of richmond says this moment will not define their city or school. the school superintendent there in virginia also making remarks about the shooting while dressed in a black graduation robe. >> i'm tired of seeing people get shots, our kids get shot, and i beg of the entire community to stop. to just stop. our kids can't take it, our teachers can't take it, our families can't take it anymore. i beg of you to stop. >> this horrific rise in gun violence is impacting every state in our country and now north carolina's governor roy cooper is trying to do something about it in his state where firearms are now the leading cause of death among children 1 to 17. his plan, a $2.5 million effort

targeting firearms storage it's called nc safe. democratic governor roy cooper joins me now. thank you for being with us. you know, those two stories just two in a building number of stories you know them because your state lives them. tell me what this plan entails and why you think this specifically can help make a difference? >> there are too many tragedies that are happening every single day like this, and when gunfire has replaced car accidents as the leading cause of injury deaths for our children, we have to do something about it. you know, first, we need stronger background checks. red flag laws. assault weapon bans. but we've seen a very difficult time in getting that legislation through congress, and certainly, i have a supermajority republican legislature in north carolina. and we can't get them to move on it so, as governor, i'm using my deck tiff authority to do what i

can to try and slow down what's happening when we're losing so many people to gunfire. we've seen an explosion in the number of guns. 5, of all americans between 20 and 22 bought guns for the very first time. what i've done as governor is moved 284,000 criminal charges into the criminal background check. i've established the office of violence prevention. and now with s.a.f.e., secure all firearms effectively, we're working on a public regulations campaign to let people know how to store guns effectively. too many children are finding them and shooting themselves accidentally. we have veterans, it's been proven if you have gun locks in gun safes, that it's less likely they will go that extra step to use a gun to commit suicide,

when all things seem lost to them. we're seeing guns being stolen, not only from homes, but in cars, unlocked cars off of car seats, by the hundreds. and we know that they're being used in commissions of felonies. so this is something we can all agree on, it's a bipartisan effort. we have police chiefs. we have sheriffs. we have even gun dealers involved in this advocacy effort to try and get people to be significantly more careful, particularly those who have never owned firearms before and really don't know how to do it. >> this is something, it definitely is something. especially in a state where you're up against, as you say, the state legislature, it's like joe biden, right, trying to do something but up against an intransient congress. but if this is where we are, given that this is the biggest killer of young people is the best we can do a campaign

locking up guns to protect these kids? >> it should not be. we need tougher laws. we know that they work. and we must continue this advocacy. we must continue on the political trail to support candidates who are willing to step up and do the right thing. look, you can support the second amendment and you can own guns, but you need to do it responsibly. and we need laws in place to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them. out of the hands of children. out of the hands of criminals. out of the hands of people who are a danger to themselves or others. and we've got to keep doing that. but meanwhile, since there are so many guns in our society now. what we have to do is try to make those people who have them, much more responsible with them. because we know time and time

again that children are getting ahold of them, that accidents are happening. that suicides are happening. that these guns are being stolen at an alarming rate. and later used on our streets. this is something that we can do. this is something that we can come together to educate people on while continuing to fight this battle of making sure our laws better protect people across north carolina and across this country. >> we're almost out of time, but there are lots of states like yours where people have been pushing to get something done. 11,000 women went out on the state capital in denver just on monday. do you have a breakdown, or do you have a confidence level how many lives might be saved just by this, as you say, bipartisan law? >> you know, we don't know for sure. this office of violence preparation that i've set up is walking on evidence-based policy. we are going to look at the data. we've been told by law enforcement and others that so

many guns are being used by people who have stolen them or who have, for children who can so easily get a loaded gun at home. and we don't think parents want their children to be lying in a pool of blood, accidentally shot. we don't think that they want to make it easier for someone to commit suicide in their home. we know they don't want someone to use their gun, that's stolen in the commission of a felony. making people aware that you can do things to prevent that i think is going to be an important part of this. and we hope we can put numbers on this soon because we're hoping to get more funding for this, to continue this effort of public awareness. >> north carolina governor roy cooper. i hope you'll come back on when you have some of that evidence. we'd love to talk to you about it again. thank you so much for coming on the program. >> thanks a lot, chris. ron desantis making a surprise visit to the southern border, as california governor newsom speaks exclusively to nbc

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florida governor ron desantis right now throwing a punch in his ongoing and increasingly nasty feud with california's governor over migrants flown from florida to california. desantis is currently making a surprise trip to the southern border. nbc news gabe gutierrez is on the ground with the governor in sierra vista, arizona. gabe, what's the latest? >> reporter: florida governor ron desantis making his first official visit to the u.s. southern border as a presidential candidate. this is being billed as an official state visit, not a campaign stop. and he's set to meet with local law enforcement officials here. including the local sheriff who has been very critical of biden administration's policies here on the border. of course, this all comes as

florida is being accused by officials in california of relocating migrants and flying them to sacramento. and just yesterday, a spokesperson for the florida division of emergency management confirmed that florida arranged for the flights. and also released video, stills, showing that the migrants went voluntarily. my colleague jacob soboroff frm "today" show interviewed. >> you ask, question, kidnapping charges that what you believe, governor, that they're bringing them to florida. >> i think i'm being small and pathetic, very generous. he's flailing, desperate for attention. >> reporter: and again, governor gavin newsom promising a fuel investigation to see if any criminal charges might be warranted here.

but governor desantis is expect here in arizona. and he's then heading to texas for fund-raisers, later this week. he's been trying to stake a position early on in his campaign, even farther to the right of former president trump, something the trump campaign is pushing back on, at least when it comes to immigration. back to you. >> gabe gutierrez in a windy arizona, thank you. be sure to check out jacob soboroff's first interview with governor newsom. obviously, he's pull nothing punches of his own. that's on "today" tomorrow morning. that's going to do it this hour. make sure you join us for chris jansing reports. and our coverage now with "katy tour reports." >> good to be with you, i'm katy tur. donald trump right-hand man when he left the