able to uncover more details that can give some information as to what could have happened to natalee holloway, ana. >> can't we all hope that's the case. guad venegas, thank you for your reporting. now, the youngest volcano on hawaii's big island is going through its rebellious years. mount kilauea erupting yesterday, spewing lava high into the sky and elevating the local volcano alert level. thankfully there have been no injuries. the risk to infrastructure or human life remains low. but there is the danger of, quote, volcanic smog or haze that appears with volcanic gas mixing with the atmosphere. local officials are urging residents to take precautions. that does it for us today. see you back here tomorrow, friday. same time, same place. until then, reporting from new york, i'm ana cabrera. our coverage continues right now with jose diaz-balart. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. breaking news, the supreme court

strikes down alabama's congressional map, ruling in favor of black voters who challenged it. we'll break down what it means and what comes next. major developments in the investigation into former president trump's handling of classified documents. nbc news learned trump has been told he is a target in the probe. an apocalyptic-like haze from canada's wildfires blanketing more than 15 states with hazardous air, affecting more than 120 million people, causing ground stops at airports and closing schools. and presidential hopeful mike pence comes out swinging against his former boss. but he refused to slam trump on one issue. >> indicting a former president of the united states sends a terrible message to the world. i hope the doj thinks better of it. we begin with breaking news from the u.s. supreme court. the high court just issued a

major decision in a very closely watched case centering around alabama's congressional district map. in a surprise decision, the court ruled in favor of black voters who say the state could have drawn another black majority district. with us now to talk about this, nbc news julia ainsley outside the u.s. supreme court, and nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett, and eddie glod, professor at princeton university and msnbc political analyst. how did the court rule in this case, specifically? >> you're right, it was a surprise because the court actually said that alabama was in violation of section 2 of the voting rights act because the way they drew these boundaries and their refusal to let black civil rights groups remedy those guidelines saying that they were actually drawn in a way that would dilute their vote and were racially motivated, the court is saying that in fact alabama was in violation of section 2 of the voting rights act. this is a surprise. you have chief justice john roberts siding with the majority

and justice kavanaugh. with those votes, it became the close decision of 5-4 vote to rule against alabama and with those civil rights groups that were challenging the law. they're upholding a ruling from a lower court, but this is a surprise in some ways because this court has become so conservative, there was a thinking that they may actually side with alabama in this case. of course there are more decisions to come. many that could be controversial and also looking at north carolina, also having to do with voting rights acts, voting right there, where they could say that actually the court in this state don't have the right to intervene when the state legislature redraws boundaries there. so, still more for the court to say on this topic, but at least for today some sigh of relief for some people who were worried about the weakening of the voting rights act through this decision. >> so, laura, let's talk about that. section 2 of the voting rights act is such an important part of it. what are the wider implications

of this and what specifically about that section 2 was helped? >> the whole point of section 2 was to try to remedy race discrimination. the whole point was that black voters for the better part of a -- half of a century have been disenfranchised in this country. congress passed section 2 to try to remedy that harm. and today the court, the biden court, the court, including two of the conservatives that said alabama went about this the wrong way on this whole idea of vote dilution, the idea that black voters' power to actually elect the person of their choice had been diluted in such a way because they were all crammed into just one district. and the lower court had said they were crammed into on that one district and even if you didn't intend it, that was still a discriminatory effect. alabama had said, but we didn't do it on purpose and today the court said specifically that doesn't matter. we have reiterated that section 2 turns on the presence of discriminatory effects, not discriminatory intent. so this does have big

implications for 2024 as alabama is now going to have to go back and redo that map. >> there are some states that maybe have done something like that, you know, i'm thinking there is a case in florida, in a northern part of florida, where the redistricting there affected african american voters. is this something you think could have an impact in other states before 2024. >> potentially all states should be on notice now. you have to comply with section 2 of voting rights act. that maybe would have been taken for granted considering the precedence has been on the books for years and decades now. but the fact that this court has reaffirmed what section 2 means, and that it is done, again, with two conservatives, the chief justice is the one writing this opinion, speaks volumes. >> does that surprise you, those two magistrates? >> absolutely. this is a court that had hollowed out the voting rights act in other parts of it and section 2 had been seen as, like, the last slice that was hanging on for dear life and today the court decided it was not prepared to go that far in striking it down. >> i'm wondering what is it your

reaction to this breaking news? >> i'm stunned. justice roberts career has in some ways been developed around his opposition to the voting rights act. that's the kind of crude characterization. i think this is true. i think this is a surprise all around. i haven't had a chance to digest the full thing yet. in the end, justice roberts writes this, he says the court's opinion does not diminish or disregard the concern that section 2 may elevate race in the allocation of political power within the states. that's in the opinion. so, it just sets the stage for all the other cases that are coming down the pike. >> so what does that tell you, and just if -- your re action to that specific part of the opinion. >> so my reaction to that opinion is that in this instance he's willing -- they're willing to uphold section 2. but there are some other cases that are coming that might actually raise the concern or allow for him to in some ways continue to gut the voting

rights act as he's want to do, it seems to me. i'm not a lawyer. i'm just a philosopher by trade. >> so, laura, from a legal perspective, what -- the timetable and how it affects that one state, but how it could have an impact on other states. we're really in the process now of the campaign. >> and we have to see how other states decide to take note of this decision. they have to comply with it and they have to figure out how to draw their congressional maps accordingly. as julia mentioned at the top, though, we do have another election -related case having to do with how north carolina drew up its maps. this is going on all over the country in terms of gerrymandering, that's an issue not relegated just to alabama. it is an issue across the country. so how states figure out how to comply with this, in time for 2024, is a critical issue. >> and, you know, gerrymandering has been such a positive bipartisan issue on everybody who will take advantage of the

fact that they have the majorities in the state houses and senates to redraw these districts. so, i'm wondering, for minorities, this statement today out of the supreme court will have repercussions in maybe how they are allowed to have a voice in this democracy. >> certainly because reaffirming that discriminatory intent is not the law is really important. it is the effect of what they did. if they found that discriminatory intent was required, it would have raised the bar, it would have made challenging these maps much harder going forward. so by affirming that that has not been the law and that is not going to be the law at least for this court going forward, that's a really important way, is it is a really important way for minorities to be able to challenge maps that they believe have discriminatory effects, even if intent wasn't there. >> so, your thoughts on that this could mean for other minority groups seeking more

representation. >> i think that -- to be clear, this is really important, jose. it affords minority groups, particularly black voters and brown voters the opportunity to challenge these efforts to disenfranchise them. but the battle around voting rights is still on. this decision doesn't settle that. it simply sets the stage for the next phase of the battle. we still have a weapon to fight, but we're still having to fight. >> julia ainsley, laura jarrett, eddie glod, thank you for being with us. up next, following several moving parts in the investigation into how former president trump handled classified documents. one of the key prosecutors was just spotted outside the federal courthouse in miami. we're back in 60 seconds with what this means. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" this morning from new york. "jose diaz-balart reports" this morning from new york.

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ten past the hour. another major development in the major investigation into former president donald trump's handling of classified information. earlier this morning, nbc news spotted a prosecutor who has been playing a key role in special counsel jack smith's investigation walking into the federal courthouse in miami. this comes hours after nbc news confirmed trump's attorneys were told during a meeting that the justice department on monday the former president is a target of the classified documents probe. that's according to two sources briefed on the meeting. "the washington post" reports federal prosecutors in the documents case plan to bring a significant portion of any charges to a federal court in south florida. with us now to talk more about this, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, in miami, "washington post" investigative political reporter josh dawsey and tally, an msnbc legal analyst. ken, what does it mean that

we're seeing people from the special counsel's office entering the miami courthouse? >> good morning, jose. it is sort of confirms our sense that the center of gravity of the classified documents case has shifted down here to south florida. david harbach, the person you mentioned, is one of the senior figures in the special counsel investigation, he goes back with special counsel jack smith to their time as war crimes prosecutors in the hague, he's a long-time senior prosecutor, important jobs in the justice department, and he's in a managerial role. the fact he's here today, he's normally in d.c., i think it is significant and there are reasons to believe that technical legal case law around venue and obstruction of justice are part of the reason that the center of gravity has shifted and that this case, if it is brought, including obstruction of justice, may be charged here in south florida and it appears that it sort of dawned on the justice department that they needed to -- they needed to

bring this case down here. so they have been now bringing witnesses here and now we're seeing these senior figures and that coupled with as you said donald trump being notified that he's a target, his lawyers coming into the justice department, all adds to the sense that a charging decision or announcement in this case is imminent. >> so, ken, what does the fact that trump, his attorneys were told the former president is a target? what does that word specifically mean? >> it means that prosecutors believe he committed a crime. now, you can argue that that was true the moment that the fbi searched mar-a-lago, because they had to convince a judge there was probable cause. they want to give that defendant one last chance to come before the grand jury, which rarely happens, because that would be a very unwise for donald trump to testify before a grand jury at the moment. it is a formality. what it means generally, almost always, is the person is about

to be indicted. not 100%, but usually a last final sign, often target letters don't become public. we learned about it and it is one more piece of evidence that charges may be imminent. >> tally, what generally occurs in an investigation once someone is informed that they are a target? >> well, jose, as ken said, it means that the department is now prepared to pursue an indictment against donald trump. and so only two things really can happen to prevent that indictment from happening. one is that his lawyers might convince the department that they missed something. and if they rethink the case, they would not want to pursue it. that is unlikely. and it is possible that the meetings have been reported between trump and some attorney -- trump's attorneys and attorneys from the department came after the issuing of the target letter and the other is that the grand jury might decide not to vote on an

indictment. and that, too, is unlikely. so, we really are at the end here, and should expect either one or two indictments related to mar-a-lago to issue, either in florida or d.c. or both. >> and so the reason that it could be florida or d.c. or both is because it is a different part of the same investigation? >> well, so, it is a unified investigation run by the same prosecutors out of the special counsel's office applying the same body of laws and they can gather information, evidence in one grand jury, in one district, and send it over to the other. but in the end, the constitution, federal law, and department of justice policies say that you have to bring a case where the crime happened. and sometimes it is really obvious where a crime happened. sometimes it happened in more than one place, in a conspiracy particularly. it could span across districts. and then the department has to

make a judgment about where it would be least vulnerable to a challenge by donald trump that they chose the wrong venue and one option, we don't know yet, but one option might be to split it up in the same way that paul manafort was charged both in the eastern district of virginia, one federal district and in washington, d.c. for related crimes. and they might be considering here too that's the safest way to do this and actually gets the department in front of two juries, which may have some advantages. >> so, josh, it seems more and more like south florida is the place where there is more and more information and certainly it is looing like a place where prosecutors will bring most of the charges in florida. e theeason for that? >> well, i think that's what tali just said. a lot of the conduct happened in florida. you look at that is of

particular interest to prosecutors here. and it is how he and his team responded to the subpoena and not returning the documents, potentially obstructing the investigation. what we reported is that the significant evidence of the department of justice has on the obstruction of the investigation and all of that happened in the post presidency while he was living in florida. the documents being moved happened in florida. the documents not being returned happened in florida. so, you view the conduct most under investigation here by the department of justice, and this particular probe, and most of it happened in florida. >> and, josh, meanwhile, you know, key trump aide taylor budowich this time yesterday we were talking about that. what do we know about what prosecutors wanted to talk to him? >> so he had a role in one episode in 2022 that has become of interest to the department of justice prosecutors. and at that time i do remember

former president trump sent 15 boxes of material back to the national archives, which started this whole episode. and the former president according to our reporting told mr. budowich he wanted to issue an statement saying he had given everything back, all documents back. he wanted at lawyer alex canon to say he had given everything back. alex canon refused and taylor refused and he seemed to not believe that that could particularly be true and they're interested in the drafting of that statement. >> interesting. so, ken, turning now to the other jack smith investigation, the january 6th probe, yesterday steve bannon was issued a subpoena. what more do we know about that? >> well, you know, it is a major development in the january 6th probe, not unexpected, because bannon could be a crucial witness in a lot of respects, and remember he refused to testify before the january 6th committee, prosecuted for that,

convicted of that, but now it is much harder for him to get out of or resist a subpoena before the special counsel and the justice department, and it suggests that that investigation, unlike the documents case, has not quite ripened, has some ways to go, more witnesses, more documents still being analyzed in that january 6th case. >> ken dilanian, josh dawsey and tali farhadian weinstein, thank you. a thick haze of hazardous air choking a large part of the united states. the eastern part of it. these are live pictures from baltimore. now, here in new york city, the worst air quality in the world has been recorded now, two days in a row. what you need to know next. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" from new york city. watching "jose diaz-balart reports" from new york city. trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley.

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23 past the hour, this morning, more than 123 million people across the country are under air quality alerts as smoke from the canadian wildfire has reached as far south as alabama. here in new york city, cancellations and closures are up ending daily life with the faa issuing another ground stop at laguardia airport, delaying all flights bound for newark international airport and in philadelphia, air quality levels near midnight last night rose to 429 on the index scale, reaching the highest into the hazardous category than ever before. joining us now is nbc's george

solis, at the airport in philadelphia. also with us this morning, meteorologist bill karins. boy, let's start with you, george, what is the latest where you are? >> reporter: yeah, jose, it is still ugly to put it bluntly her. but there is a little bit of a silver lining. the air quality here in philadelphia has moved from hazardous to very unhealthy. still very unsafe for many people, so the recommendation, of course, is to stay indoors, wear masks, if you are going to be outside for an extended period. here at the airport, all flights have resumed. there was a temporary pause for all incoming flights here, particularly from the northeast, the mid-atlantic and the midwest specifically ohio. but make no mistake, the air quality out there is still very dangerous. it is still very dense out there. part of the skyline at this hour is still somewhat hazy, depending where you are. so, the faa, officials, of course, urging everyone to keep a close eye on their flights to see if there are any delays, with any connections you may be

making to the northeast or down south where the smoke is still impacting. and it is fair to say we're not out of the woods just yet. this morning, i talked to a number of travelers who are wearing masks here and tell me this feels very much like the pandemic again because they are wearing those preventive face coverings. when it comes to their health, they're not taking any chances. they know these conditions are hazardous. take a listen. >> this is the first time i've worn a mask since we had to for the pandemic. the air quality is just so bad today. >> the air quality is really bad. my eyes are burning. i can feel it in the back of my throat. and when we're outdoors, we're wearing a mask for sure. >> yeah, and, again, jose, people taking this very seriously as they should. people are hoping that things start to look up during the weekend as some of the smoke is expected to dissipate. but, again, right now, flights looking pretty good, but we can expect more delays because,

again, this smoke doesn't appear to be going away all that fast very soon. >> doesn't look like that at all. bill, let's check in with how long are we expected to have this? 100 million people impacted? yesterday, 2:00 p.m., in times square, it looked like orange and red, it was just so -- >> that's how thick it was. that was the -- we're not going to forget that. today, it is still not great in many areas like yesterday from syracuse all the way through the central portion of new york, finger lakes region, to binghamton and new york city. but the worst of it has shifted south. the air quality is in the horrendous category. that's like the top of the level of the list. it is horrendous for everyone, not just people with respiratory issues or children or elderly, around harrisburg. the worst gauge yesterday was in bethlehem, pennsylvania, the first time in recorded history where we're monitoring the stuff that goes back to the late '90s that we had one site for 24-hour

average in the horrendous category. never happened in the mid-atlantic or northeast previously before yesterday. all of that air is still stagnant and sitting here from washington, d.c. to philadelphia. here is our latest readings. allentown, still very unhealthy. philadelphia, 227, very unhealthy. washington, d.c., as high as you've been so far, up to 253, very unhealthy air. that's for everyone. not just people with issues. in the new york city, yesterday, at one point we were in the low 300s. it has come down. the visibility is a little better. still in the unhealthy range. same with albany and getting a little bit better in areas like syracuse. everyone wants to know when is this going to end? the heavy smoke from yesterday has blown out to sea. the latest batch is from d.c. to philadelphia. more clouds and some rain showers over central new york. that's why the air is improving in that area. here is the smoke forecast. this is 6:00 p.m. today. from new york to philadelphia, a dense little plume through central p.a. to erie to buffalo. we'll track that overnight, down

towards d.c. when you wake up friday morning, air quality is still going to be pretty bad from philadelphia to d.c. but by the time we get to friday afternoon, we start to blow a lot of this out to sea, not perfect, but by the time we get to saturday morning, just hit and miss areas of smoke, nothing as thick as what we're seeing. so we'll give everyone pretty much the all clear by the saturday afternoon, jose. but right now, d.c., about 24 to 36 hours of what you see. >> so, like you know, george was saying, it looks like it is clearing up a little bit, but you still should be cautious if you're out in the streets. >> yeah, we have set the bar so high now that many areas -- many areas we set the record -- >> less horrendous. >> for the worst air quality measured in the last two takes. it would be the worst if it wasn't for the previous two days that we have ever recorded in 24 years. >> so, like, face masks. people are complaining about i have a sore throat, et cetera. >> it is important to note, all the doctors i heard talking are saying these particulates are so

fine and so small, surgical masks, cloth masks do absolutely nothing. it has the n-95 or better. >> bill, thank you very much. that thing is huge, that cloud. >> it won't stop, yeah. fire has to be put out. >> bill karins and george solis, thank you both very much. any moment now, president biden is going to be meeting with the uk's prime minister at the white house. we're going to tell you why he is here. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc from new york, very hazy. alart from new york, very hazy she picks only the perks she wants and saves on every one! all with an incredible new iphone. act now and get iphone 14 pro on us when you switch. it's your verizon.

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34 past the hour. uk prime minister rishi sunak just arrived at the white house. there you see the car bringing him into the white house. his first official visit to the white house. today's meeting will be actually the fifth face to face meeting between the two leaders since sunak came into office in october. but today's visit is expected to be their most in depth discussion yet. and there you see him arriving at the white house. joining us now from the white house is nbc's kelly o'donnell, also with us is richard haass, the president on foreign relations, the author of his newsletter "home and away" and his new book "the bill of obligations." what can we expect from this meeting between the president and the prime minister? >> well, as you pointed out, this eff met a number of times in recent months. all of those involved other leaders. today a chance for personal one on one time between the president and the prime

minister, happening now in the oval office. these scenes were just a minute or two ago. just was able to move from watching that car come in to come to this camera position to talk to you. so the issues are considerable. when you look at president biden, who often has long personal relationships with other leaders on the world stage, that is not true in the case of the united kingdom. they had the series of changes in their prime ministership and now rishi sunak is in the role. so they have met a few times, key issues, of course, the partnership over ukraine, issues relating to the future of artificial intelligence, that's a passion for the prime minister, something that he wants the uk to take a leading role on. and, of course, some of the questions have to deal with what level of trade will happen between the u.s. and the uk, especially since they have left the european union. the president has tried to emphasize the special relationship, that term used about the united states and great britain.

and to try to build a personal relationship. ukraine has been so dominant over the issues they had to deal with in the last year, plus. that will certainly be a big part of it, but it is a long list. so, today, what we'll see is the meeting in the oval office and then there will be what we refer to here at the white house as a two and two, where the president and the prime minister take questions from the u.s. delegation and the british press, there are a considerable number of journalists who traveled with the prime minister who are here. >> kelly o'donnell at the white house, thank you. kelly, looks like hazy, it is still pretty bad. >> we're all feeling it. i don't want to complain because there are places that are worse, but everybody on campus here today is commenting on how our threats are scratchy, we can smell it, the air is visible and tactile, which is not supposed to be. >> no, take care, kelly. like, mask and stuff, really. >> yes, thank you. >> thanks, kelly. richard, let's talk about that, the relationship, that key historic relations between the u.s. and the uk.

where does that relationship stand today? >> to be perfectly blunt, even undiplomatic, it is less special than it was. the british decision to left eu diminished its importance in america's eyes. we still have the bilateral relationship, the nato relationship, but essentially it is diminished itself and the significance. but it, look, you have the common language, these to guys don't have a personal history, i think, jose, they worked through their differences for now on northern ireland. i think that's less of an impediment as it was. i expect also they'll be talking about china as much as other issues. the other thing, though, that is also a problem, we don't really have trade anymore. we don't have much -- we don't have bipartisan support for trade. so, boris johnson, when he was prime minister, always hoped that you would have a big expanding u.s./uk trade relationship and i don't think

that's in the political cards here. >> so, why and what do you mean by that? >> well, again, support in this country for trade has evaporated. one of the few things democrats and republicans think share, it is unfortunate from my point of view, think both parties are wrong, but we don't have a u.s. trade representative who has the interest or the ability to negotiate trade agreements with the uk or anybody else. so nothing, i think, is much going to happen there. probably one other thing we should say, for rishi sunak, what is really important about this is his own domestic political position. it is a question of when, not if. he faces the polls. his party is far behind and he's clearly hoping that he gets something of a bounce out of this meeting with the american president. >> and, richard, one of the topics no doubt and kelly was just talking about that, expected to be major discussions is the war in ukraine. looks like many sources are saying that the counteroffensive

by ukraine has already started. how do you see things right now there? >> well, counteroffensive is -- it seems to be starting. there is a big debate about how decisive it is likely to be, whether in three or six months, how much the map has changed. i think a really interesting question for these two leaders to talk about is not so much if ukraine does well, but what happens if it does not? what happens in six months if the map of ukraine looks pretty much the way it looks today, what that -- whatprepared to do? do we put our shoulders behind a new diplomatic initiative? if so, what is the context? what kind of security guarantees might the u.s. and uk expect of ukraine? that would be the most serious conversation they can have. otherwise things are agreed, we're going to help ukraine extensively, but the real issue is what if that help proves not to be desis of. >> you talk about china as an

issue that may be coming up. it continues to enlarge its presence throughout the world. we're going to be talking about this in a couple of minutes. but "the wall street journal" is reporting that china just got into an agreement with the castro regime to set a huge spy center in cuba. what are the biggest challenges you think for both the united states, the united kingdom and much of the world, vis-a-vis china? >> probably two things for the united states and uk right now, jose. what are the guidelines for economic relations? can the united states and the uk and presumably others agree on what sort of technologies would not be allowed to reach china, where china would be cut off from the west, how we all become a little bit more independent of china economically, without it turning into something of a protectionist trade war between the united states and europe as was the case to some extent with the inflation reduction act. and i think that's the biggest issue. the secondary issue is what the uk might be willing to do in various types of contingencies.

in asia, if there were to be a crisis or a conflict over taiwan, what if any role could the u.s. or -- the uk be willing to take. >> just on a side note, nothing to do with this, so looking forward to reading "the bill of obligations." what makes, richard, a good citizen in 2023? >> get informed, get involved, put the country before party or person, and in addition i would love to see much greater support, jose, for teaching civics in our schools, for supporting public service. we have to not just think about our citizens in terms of rights, but almost in the spirit of jfk, what is it that we can do for this country of ours? >> richard haase, thank you, good seeing you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. former vice president, now presidential candidate mike pence in attack mode against donald trump. that's not the case when it comes to trump's policies.

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subject of donald trump, seems to be a think of the past, that interview you saw from des moines and as well as the event in iowa yesterday, he called out his old boss on everything from raising debt levels to the january 6th attack. he drew the line, though, at talk of criminal charges for trump. >> indicting a former president of the united states sends a terrible message to the world. i hope the doj thinks better of it and resolves these issues without an indictment. >> sir, i just want to clarify, what you're saying is if they believe he committed a crime, they should not go forward with an indictment? you just talked before about committing to the ruling of law. >> let me be clear, no one is above the law. >> joining us now is dasha burns in iowa and also joined by susan page. trump has been a runaway leader in most iowa polls. how are voters there responding to pence's message? >> reporter: well, look, jose,

time will tell how pence's threading of the needle when it comes to his former boss will play here. he's about to meet with more folks at this pizza ranch behind me, which, of course, is an iowa mainstay. there are 71 of them in this state and the campaign tells me pence plans to hit every single one of those. he's going to play the retail politics game that is so important in this state. because he really believes that this state, iowa, is key to his path to the white house. now, yesterday that was a spicy speech from mike pence. not a word i would typically associate with the former vice president, but he was most direct, most clear, and most sharp in his criticism of his former boss than we have ever heard him. but then later on he went to sort of hedge his words a little bit more. i talked to some voters to get their reaction, voters that were in the room for that speech. take a listen to what i heard. >> he was more critical of trump in his speech than he normally is. how did you feel about that?

>> i don't really care for that. i don't think it is necessary. i don't think it is necessary. >> i cried through his whole presentation and i didn't have a handkerchief. his presence was great. his message, where he came from, where he's going, where he wants to take us. >> reporter: jose, keith, who you heard from there, told me he wore a trump hat for seven years, but yesterday he took that trump hat off and came into that event with his mind open and it is voters just like that that pence is focused on in the hawkeye state where there is a huge religious evangelical base he hopes state or come close in order to carve a path forward here. >> chris christie was on fox news this morning and was asked about the potential criminal case against trump for handling classified documents. here is part of what he had to

say. >> it's a bigger problem whether he is indicted or not. these are all self-inflicted wounds. return the documents. stop doing this. why do you have to be the center of negative attention all the time? why do you have to be angry all the time? that's what donald trump has done. >> susan, how effective is this? is this what candidates have to do for the rest of the primary season? >> i can tell you that this is what chris christie plans to do for the rest of his candidacy, take on trump in a direct way. in a way he is comfortable with. mike pence is not so comfortable with the politics of attack. you saw him be tough on trump in his prepared remarks but in response to questions, really not be willing to do that. said he would endorse the republican nominee, whoever it was, after saying you couldn't support someone who had put the constitution above his own

self-interest. i think pence has a problem in that trump supporters don't like the fact he didn't support trump on january 6. republicans who don't like trump, don't like the fact he served him as his vice president so loyally for four years. that's the circle that mike pence has to square. >> susan, also, ron desantis made a trip -- a surprise trip to the southern border yesterday. his messaging has centered around immigrationimmigration. is it emerging as a talking point versus actual policy? >> immigration is a great issue for republicans. it generates enthusiasm among republican voters. republicans have a political problem now in that illegal immigration across the border has gone down since the new policy was put in effect by the biden administration. not the result that all of us predicted would happen.

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he was transferred to fbi special agents in peru this morning. he is charged with allegedly trying to export holloway's family for money in exchange for information on where they could find her body. he was never charged in her 2005 disappearance but has been locked up in a prison in peru for the 2012 murder of a woman there. guad venegas is in peru this morning. good to see you. it's been a long process to get this van der sloot extradited. >> reporter: this goes back to 2010. holloway's family says he contacted them asking them for money in exchange for information regarding the whereabouts of natalie's body. during that same time, he was charged and found guilty of killing a young woman in peru. this is stephanie flores.

he was convicted and sentenced to 28 years in peru. in the u.s., there was an indictment for this fraud and extortion charges. it's been years between the u.s. and peruvian government making this agreement. what they have agreed on now is actually a temporary surrender, which means that the peruvian government has surrendered him to fbi agents here today for him to go to the u.s. where he will face these charges. after that trial, he has to return to peru to serve the rest of that 28-year sentence. only after he serves that sentence, he would be able to return to the u.s. and face any probable sentence that could come from the trial he is likely going to be facing in the next year. there's going to be a lot of back and forth. he is on his way to alabama where he will face these charges for extortion and fraud. >> guad in peru, thank you so very much. before we go, lionel messi

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