>> good evening and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead, no -- the rhetoric from the rage over donald trump's federal indictment is growing nastier. ahead of his arraignment tuesday in miami where our miami district judge will read

off each of the 37 felony counts. trump is facing them over his handling of classified materials. right now, officials in miami and the u.s. secret service are on alert for any threats of violence on tuesday and beyond. what gives me the most pratas is the truly bottomless devotion to trump zone by the nation's most powerful republican lawmakers this weekend men and women who insist that they are beholden to law and order yet they've already deemed trump innocent of all charges before he's even been arraigned. as usual, they are vocal to the point of zealotry about defending a rich white republican male with a history of subverting the law. at best, they are silent about the death of unarmed black americans killed by police,

even civilians, like the women accused of killing aj owens, a mother of four, a week ago in florida. i will go there tomorrow to deliver the eulogy. my thoughts on that later. , plus all the latest developments on the trump indictment. all of that is tonight on politicsnation. . proud to be joined now by the house minority leader congressman hickey manage effort, is democrat of new york. mr. minority leader, thank you for joining us ahead of a truly unprecedented week in our history. donald trump will face arraignment on 37 felony counts tuesday in miami. the first former president in our history to federally be indicted over his retention of classified materials at mar-a-lago. his social media posts in campaign appearances since the indictment, he's insisted that the targets, the target of a

witch hunt by president biden to derail the 2024 presidential campaign. that's to be expected from trump. i have to ask, yo the top democrat in the, house for your reaction to the support to trump has received from congressional republicans, even before the indictment has been unsealed, they are going all the way up to the ranks of your colleague house speaker kevin mccarthy,, he went so far last week as to say that the indictment will disrupt the nation. i've known you for years, i've known you are since you were a lawyer. you know the legal gravity of an indictment like this. how can republican colleagues stand up and say this when we haven't even heard the charges directly read in court. >> good, afternoon it's great to be with. you it's quite unfortunate. these charges are incredibly serious.

they relate directly to the safety and security of the american people it's a former presidents most solemn responsibility. at least according to the indictment, one that was undermined in severe ways by the former president. of course, he's innocent until proven guilty. there will be a process that will formally begin on tuesday. to your point, it's very sad and unfortunate that republican presidential candidates, republican members of the house of representatives, republican members of the senate have leaned into the lawlessness and disorder that has become the modern-day republican party. many of whom sympathize with the violent insurrectionists in the immediate aftermath of the storming of the capital. all voting to affirm the big lie that led to the attack on the capitol.

you would think that perhaps some of my colleagues would have learned their lesson and moved away from the type of lawlessness and disorder that does get people hurt. instead, they have been fanning the flames in an irresponsible way. >> that covers the vocal support for the gop. the new york times is reporting that the right-wing media has exploded for calls for violence and rebellion. the rhetoric surrounding this indictment reportedly even more strange than what we saw around trump's indictment in the manhattan d.a.'s hush money probe just three months ago. right, now public officials in miami and the secret service are bracing for possible demonstrations from trump supporters tuesday in miami. as a manager of trump's first impeachment, having lived through, literally the events of january six, are you

concerned we will see violence from his supporters going into tuesday if not after? >> certainly appropriate and important for federal law enforcement officials and partnership with state and local officials to take every available precaution to prevent this type of violence that we saw on january six. because of the extreme rhetoric that's coming from many right wing ideologues in this country. it's important to understand what is perhaps at the root of what we are seeing in terms of this irresponsible rhetoric. the right wing in this country wants to and social security and medicare as we know it, they want to strip away reproductive freedom, they want to undermanned the rights to vote, they want to believe that voter suppression is the pathway to maintaining power. they will cut taxes for the wealthy, the well off, the well connected. at the same, time time to undermine middle class folks, those who aspire to be part of the middle class, the poor, the sick, the afflicted.

their policies are out of step with the american people. that's why they have been losing elections and underperforming as they did in the 2022 midterm elections. many of us have long been concerned. you've been a leading voice in this regard. if right-wing folks in this country concluded that they can no longer win elections democratically, it wouldn't abandon conservatism. if it abandoned democracy. what we are seeing, from some of these calls to violence coming from some of the more extreme members of the right-wing in this country is an abandonment of democracy. and that should frighten every day americans. >> let me go to the issue of the supreme court of the united states. we saw that this week the surprisingly voted in favor of

those plaintiffs and the case in alabama. they came out and said that the redrawing of the map, what alabama had done impeded the strength of black voters in the state. black voter should have to as opposed to one congressional district. now we have not heard that decision yet on affirmative action. they can come back with a decision that would not weaken affirmative action. they've done. that eliminated race as a factor at all. which would not only undermine in my judgment the admissions and there -- it could be carried over into the private sector, about contracts, about employment, about other things. it would totally eradicate race. the cynical side of me, did the chief gesture this and kavanaugh, the conservative go on this one so they could not

be called names when they overturned affirmative action. i think, again, i congratulate them for what they did on the voting case. i congratulate janelle nelson. i'm concerned about affirmative action. putting on your lawyer had as well as legislature, legislative hat in the top democrat in the house, how do you see the voting rights decision, what is the weight and concern for you of what we are still waiting on the affirmative action decision. it could come this week, at last, next week before the session ends. >> with respect to voting rights, dr., king, of course made the observation that time is always right to do what is right. thankfully, five justices in the supreme court, including chief justice roberts and kavanaugh did what was right.

in an obvious case where a map had been gerrymandered to undermine the ability of voters in alabama, to have an opportunity to elect second african american members of congress. a congress member of their choice. by the way, they are also gerrymandering the maps in louisiana, in texas, and in georgia. a floored map in new york that's in the process a being reevaluated. when you take all of this together, what it means is that the extreme maga republican majority in the house of representatives right now is only in the majority because of an extremely gerrymandered map that is now in the process of being dismantled. we are thankful that the supreme court has done the right thing. the various legislative bodies are going to have to do the right thing to create lawful constitution maps and then put it in the hands of the voters.

in terms of the potential decision as it relates to affirmative action, these values of diversity, equity, inclusion are important for a fair and an open and a just society in a racially diverse democracy that we have. it has a very imperfect history in the area of racial justice. it's our hope that there will be at least five enlighten justices who understand that this principle of diversity, using race as a factor in a multi polar a stick society, very diverse i society is the right thing to do. study after study has shown that the more diverse a school, the more diverse university, the more diverse, accompany, the more successful that entity happens to be. >> i, mean we are helping them

help themselves. i am out of time. the biden white house and speaker mccarthy -- to raise our debt ceiling earlier this month. of course, some members of the house gop's so-called freedom caucus took issue with speaker mccarthy's role in the passage. they say it didn't go far enough into the federal spending. midway through last week, they rebelled against the speaker. now, joining with house democrats to take the debate on a pair of mccarthy backed bills to protect the use of gas stoves. the result, the leadership council votes for the rest of the week. as a minority leader who also played a role, i know you heard that i complained leaving giving enough credit. i was jumping up and down. i was yelling hakeem, her game, we can go back to what i'm talking about, but what does

the aftermath -- what does the aftermath of the debt deal, what does that tell you about what we can expect from this congress? at least as long as republicans retain the majority. >> this is extreme group of people. i'm thankful for president biden's leadership that we are able to avoid defaults, prevent extreme maga republicans from crashing economy and triggering a recession. they believe would h benefited them politically in 2024. it would've hurt millions and millions of everyday americans. we are able to arrive at the resolution, protect medicare, protect medicaid, protect veterans, protect the american people from the good to coronene cuts that the right-wing wanted to jam down our throats. they are not finished. they will continue with diabolical intensity to try to arrive at policies that are inconsistent with the health and safety of the american

people. that's why we got to continue to stay in the fight. host immigrants played a very important role in avoiding a default. they will continue to play a very important role in doing the right thing by the american people. . pushing back against the extreme maga republicans in the house of representatives. >> >> we are talking about veterans, we're talking about medicaid we're, talking about social security, we're talking about basic things americans need. the president, i think, delivered on that. think delivered on that. you delivered. they talked about you in the room. i don't care if you had to shower was shoes -- if you're going to save all, that you can use my slippers. thank you, house minority leader hakeem jeffries. joining me now is nbc news legal analyst carole lamb. she is the former u.s. attorney for southern california. carol, as we look at, head donald trump is expecting to surrender to authorities.

he said to be arraigned at a federal courthouse in miami. walk me through what else we can expect to happen that day. >> we can expect, as you mentioned, both the president, the former president, to be appearing of his own volition on a self surrounded or at the courthouse in miami. along with his codefendant who is his personal aide, his butler, who was included in the same indictment as both the coconspirator and someone who made false statements to the fbi. this is what is known as the first appearance. the appearance will be before a federal magistrate. not the judge to the science in the case. a federal magistrate who will run through the items that you do at a first appearance, there might be the reason of the indictment, the former president and him could wave the right to have that red. it's a long indictment. it's 49 pages. they might as well say we

accept the indictment. there's no need to read it. he will go through the normal processing, most likely, about what's known as a mugshot. probably fingerprinting. maybe some other identification issues. conditions of release will be set. usually that entails surrender of the passport and travel restrictions. a promise to obey all oz. the expectation is that will have all been worked out with his attorneys before hand. the magistrate judge will agree to that. >> we learned this afternoon that trump's arraignment will be overseen by magistrates john goodman. if this case goes to trial, it will be at least initially aileen cannon, a judge trump appointed himself in 2020. she has previously faced scrutiny from other conservatives for rulings and his favor, specifically over

her decision to grant his request for an independent operative to review the documents obtained during the fbi search of mar-a-lago. we know the judge was chosen at random. using normal procedures and will stay on the case unless she recuse herself. do you think the special counsel has a strategy ready to deal with the judge who might be hostile to their case? >> i will say that the special counsel jack smith certainly must have anticipated that this was a possibility. on the indictment when, it was filed by special counsel there's a boiler plate sheet that his team has to fill out. it indicates where this case should be heard. they had to check west palm beach. that's where most of the events here took place mar-a-lago is located in the west palm beach division. that means that because that

was the case it means that probably only about a half dozen judges were in the wheel to be randomly select there was only a one in five or one and six chance that this there is probably that chance this would go to cannon and it did, this was probably not the choice that jack smith would've wanted, he's a professional he knew this was going to happen, as for strategy, i doubt he was going to -- i don't think there is really a good thesis for that. she would have to make the decision on her own. i don't see that as a likelihood. i think he's a professional. he's going to decide that he will try the best you can and will see where lori set up what. >> let me ask you about this.

the trump's personal aide and -- the valley in the white house has been indicted on federal criminal charges. it's connected with this case, six charges, including conspiracy to obstruct, withholding documents, records and schemes to conceal. he had said that he played a central role in retrieving america's most sensitive national security secrets. moving them to mar-a-lago. what does the future of this case look like for him. he is going to be arraigned tuesday with the former president. >> that's right. i think his inclusion in this indictment is fascinating. it's hard for me to believe that he was not offered a deal by jack smith. to cooperate, he's all over the indictment, as you mentioned, someone who participated in all of these events. there are text messages between

him and other members of mar-a-lago talking about where to move the documents, went to move the boxes at the presidents request and that's the problem for him. these locked in through his text messages. he decided for now to stick with the former president. he's not apparently cooperating with the government in this case. that could change at sometime. one of the things that struck me about this indictment, i read through it, it was really it's not a complicated case it's a relatively simple case. it shouldn't take that long to try this case. what it's going to take time, all the motions. some of them frivolous that will take place before the trial entering the trial. it's almost a certainty that the former president will have a mill of lawyers turning out motions to put before a judge cannon if she's in fact the one that tries the case. that will take time to resolve. >> i want to ask you to listen

to trump's former attorney general, bill barr, he went on fox news on sunday to talk about the indictments. this is his selected attorney general. listen. . >> i was shocked by the degree of sensitivity of these documents. how many there were, frankly. and, so, the government's agenda was to get those and protect those documents. to get them out. it is. perfectly appropriate to do that. it was the right thing to do. . this idea of presenting trump as a victim, here a victim of a witch hunt is ridiculous. this is much different. he's not a victim here. he was totally wrong. -- >> in response, trump called mr. barr a, quote, disgruntled former employee. he called the commentary, misinformation.

this was trump's own top law enforcement officer. a man who went out of his way to undermine the results of the mueller investigation. saying that this case against the former president's strong. . why aren't we hearing this from more republicans? are they too scared of trump to take an honest look at the facts here? >> i don't want to get too far out of my league as a legal expert. i will say that bill barr's comments and views about former president trump do seem to have become more open and forthcoming. perhaps more straightforward after he left the position as attorney general. after he left the administration. -- [interpreter] >> you could say he doesn't have a dog in the fight anymore. perhaps that's why he feels freer to speak the way he is speaking now about his take on this indictment. as i, said it's a fairly straightforward indictment. the facts seemed

incontrovertible. bill barr, as well as other members of the administration and congress understand the sensitivity of these types of documents. so, what you're hearing today from bill barr is the way he sees it. >> i will say this, former u.s. attorney carole lamb, i was not expecting you to get out of your lane. i'm sure -- he wasn't expecting -- which has been pushing the envelope all my love. thank you for being with us. it's been nearly a year since the supreme court's ruling to reverse roe v. wade, and inspire demonstrations from coast to coast. next projects joins me to discuss whether democrats will be able to capture that energy from the base headed into 2024. , first my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. lu>> a very good day, tear and out briefing moments ago,

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the house democratic view of donald trump's federal indictment. here with the view from the senate. , joining me now is democratic senator tina smith of minnesota. we appreciate you being with us tonight. specifically because to my knowledge and my politics nations team you have yet to make a statement about donald trump's federal indictment over his handling of classified materials. what can you tell us as the nation awaits his arraignment in less than two days. what can you tell us about how you view this? >> thank, you reverend sharpton. this indictment is stunning. it lays out evidence of a brazen attempt to obstruct

justice. i don't see how the department of justice could have done anything other than indict the former president the evidence that they lay out show that not only did he take documents, but he also kept them when he was supposed to return them, he had, them and then he lied about it. and a nation of laws, the only thing the department of justice could do would be to indict him. >> as i asked congressman jeffries earlier, how do you respond this week to your gop colleagues and the senate as they told donald trump's narrative that he is a victim of president biden's witch hunt and the weaponization of our justice system? how do you respond to that? >> i would point them to the statements that former attorney general bill barr made today. i think that he said if half of this is true, he's toast. the reality is that we need republican leaders right now to be speaking out for the rule of

law saying that even donald trump especially is not above the law. that's not what they're doing, what they're doing is defending them, feeding into this narrative of the judicial system in this country is unfair, and that is dangerous. it is destabilizing. it's deeply concerning that we have republican leaders, including the u.s. congress, basically speaking out in favor of this false narrative of what is happening. it's dangerous and is stabilizing. >> senator, you tweeted the surprise last week over the supreme court ruling that alabama's voting must be withdrawn after they were fined -- violating the voting right -- against black voters in the state democracy scored a victory you wrote on twitter and the fight for voting rights continues.

senator ole sherr over the last week's decision, and while this ruling has potentially brightened house democrats, 2024 prospects by forcing other states to withdraw their maps to my knowledge summit democrats do not have any plans to take up a voting rights fight in 2024, can you tell me if i'm wrong about that? >> first, let me just say that i agree with you. what the supreme court did is what they had to do. they upheld the law. we cannot forget that this is a supreme court that has been systematically overriding voting rights laws. what we're trying to do is get back to even. i think what is important to recognize, the impact of their decisions while they allow these unfair racial gerrymandering districts to stand in 2022, it had a direct impact on the elections that put speaker mccarthy and the speaker's job.

that is the reality that we have here. the reality is also that the senate, as you well know, reverend sharp, we don't have the votes to move forward for true expansion and improvement of voting rights in this country. that's why again why elections matter. i have to tell you i'm very critical of the work happening here in my home state of minnesota where our governor and democratic legislature advanced voting rights by moving forward with provisions to move for automatic voting registration when you turn 18, and also to return voting rights to formerly incarcerated people. while we are working hard on this at the national level, it's encouraging to see that some states like my state are taking positive action to expand voting rights, not just to stay even. >> the expanding abortion rights protection, in last month's state budget for months after they signed the state law protecting abortion.

with both measures making possible, in part by the trifecta that democrats currently hold in both chambers of minnesota legislature -- as we approach the first anniversary of the supreme court do we see democrats being able to mobilize the voters nationally around this issue? to the extent that many pundits forecasted a year ago. >> i absolutely know that abortion rights and reproductive freedoms continue to be a galvanizing issue for many voters. but the republicans are on the wrong side of the voters, owners in 2022, motivating issues. especially for young voters. many suggesting that that's

changing. these republican voter compilations and the senate candidates, dancing around this issue, because they can figure out how to -- when i believe that most of them are in favor of the a red ban on on the federal level. it's really going to be important voters, as they head into the 2024 elections, hold these politicians and republican extremists accountable to get them to say exactly what they think about reproductive freedom and who should have the control over women's bodies and women's lives as they are faced with these important decisions. >> senator tina smith, thank you for being with us. more politicsnation just ahead. we will be right back. l be right back.

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politicsnation. let's turn to our political panel for the analysis on today's big topics. joining us now democrat steve bullock former governor montana, and amy terra canyon, a republican strategist and former chair of the nevada gop. steve there are heightened concerns of donald trump's court appearance in miami on tuesday. some of his supporters are using a violent rhetoric, leading experts to worry about a dangerous environment outside of the courthouse. as the former president is arraigned for his federal indictment you were governor of a state with a lot of republicans supporting former president trump. what do you think can be done to tamp down the hostile language and possibly change the minds of some of that field

trump was unfairly targeted. >> you bet reverend. i hope everyone hears this call to action on tuesday. big we have got the first president ever, the former president to be charged with walls that he had sworn to uphold. actually obstructed the very agencies that he used to lead. the threat of national security, violating the espionage act and we saw from president trump's last call to action on january 6th, the implications, even a state like montana, what montanans are being prosecuted for what happened on january 6th. a couple of folks that had actually traveled from the capitol on that day. you had five dead, i'm hopeful that people don't answer that call, and secondly, more than that, the republicans that truly believe in the rule of law, turn around and say that this is not right. we're better than this as a nation. >> amy, trump made his first

public appearances yesterday after being federally indicted. he gave a speech at both georgia and north carolina's republican state convention. well in the tar heel state, trump got the endorsement of national republican congressional committee chair richard hudson. you know on twitter, now both the nrcc and then our s c champion both chairman are backing trump, even while he is being indicted. why do you think this is happening? >> i was completely floored when i came across that announcement. the only reason i can actually wrap my head around this making any sense at all is strictly a financial one. there's no way that they could morally want to make sure that this individual is our nominee, except for the fact that they need a fund-raise. that's their main focus. they know that he is a

moneymaker. the president himself is fundraising off of this indictment, which is abhorrent. that is where we are now in this day and age. to see the top of the rnc, both chairman's putting out this enforcement, i think it's shameful. >> steve, let's let's switch gears. ted kaczynski, the man known as the new unabomber was found dead in his prison cell yesterday at the age of 81 after dying by suicide, according to the associate press. he'd been serving eight life sentences after he pleaded guilty in 1998 for sending nationwide mail bombs that killed three people and wounded 23 others. his reign of terror stretched for 17 years, becoming the fbi's longest and most expensive investigation ever. he was later arrested in 1996,

where he was found in his shack in the home state of min montana. what are your thoughts on his death coming at a time when the threat of domestic terrorism seems to be on the rise? >> yes reverend, 23 people injured, three people did by ted kaczynski. the cabin he was founded in the same county that i live in. his death triggers for a lot of people, sort of all of those fears that he had created over 17 years. the domestic terrorism rising up again look, we never want to have another ted kaczynski. we never want to have not just those losses of lives, but the fear that he instilled all across the country. i think justice so many folks breathe a sigh of collective relief and ted kaczynski was finally captured in lincoln,

montana in 1995 we shall remember how we felt and he was captured. we should remember how as a country, that we will always stand up against domestic terrorism. we should take those feelings that we had today when we had domestic terrorists, going after marginalized communities, going after so many people and so many parts of this country, just because of who they love, or what they look like. we're better than this as a country, just like we are a lot better as a country than we ever were to let ted since he terrorizes. >> amy, on to the issue of the lgbtq rights. president biden hopes that the largest pride celebration in the white house history, when he called for new measures to protect the rights and safety of lgbtq plus people, amid a rise in what he described as

quote, terrifying attacks in legislation. meanwhile, the north carolina republican party voted on saturday to censor senator tom -- for his work on respect for marriage act. which recognized same-sex and interracial marriages under federal law. what do you make of the hostility towards lgbtq people being at the foundation of the republican party right now? >> it's mind-boggling to me. you've got people that are members of the state central committees who actually think that they had the power to legislate. if they want to legislate the major run for office, rather than just sit underneath the state party title. it is their job strictly to support those that are in office. it is their job to fund-raise. to register voters, to get the vote out. not to tell these legislators how they should and should not vote.

we are finding that this is a problem not just in states like north carolina, but it's happening in a number of states across the nation. you are getting this trump fringe, if you will, who are very angry and aggressive and pushy. they like to bully their legislators into thinking the way that they think. it's either their way or the highway. we saw that here in nevada last election, actually two elections ago where we have republican secretary of state who had to basically follow through with the rules that are passed by the legislature. she refused to kowtow into the fake elector bit. they censored her. that's what we're seeing now trickling down from the president trump presidency, where in the, beginning we thought that it was wonderful to have somebody with the strength and power, and eventually turning into tantrums. >> all have to leave it there.

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