wrong, it's part of a criminal enterprise, and corcoran will be required to testify and his notes were turned over and his audiotapes were turned over to the prosecutors. >> michael zeldin as always i really appreciate your insights and you bringing that expertise to the conversation. great to see you, thank you. >> thanks, ana. that's going to do it for us today. thank you for joining us. i'll see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place, we'll have special coverage. i'll be joining josé diaz-balart in miami as we cover the former president's arraignment. until then, reporting from new york, i'm ana cabrera, josé diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. and good morning, it's 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm josé diaz-balart. any minute now former president donald trump expected to leave bedminster, new jersey, and head to florida for his arraignment on federal charges tomorrow in miami. there you see part of the motorcade there right outside

his club. we've got all angles of the story covered including new reporting that the arraignment could be delayed. meanwhile, in pennsylvania, the governor expected to issue a disaster declaration today after a tanker carrying gas burst into flames causing a section of i-95 in philadelphia to collapse. this critical stretch of highway could be shut down for months. a miracle in colombia, four children found alive deep in the amazon jungle 40 days after their plane crashed. we'll bring you a live report from bogota. and a major clarification from the biden administration, how china has been spying on the u.s. for years with help from the cuban regime. we begin with breaking news on preparations for what could be an historic court appearance in florida. this hour former president donald trump is set to leave his golf club in bedminster, new jersey, for newark airport.

there you see these live images of the group of automobiles that will be carrying the former president to newark, and then on to mia, to miami. it's not clear if everything that is expected to happen tomorrow will actually happen. sources familiar with the matter tell nbc news' ken dilanian, the arraignment portion cannot go forward unless trump finds a local attorney. it's not clear that that has happened yet. if trump doesn't find a local attorney, the arraignment may be postponed. this comes days after the unsealing of a 37 count indictment accusing him of illegally taking classified national security documents when he left the white house. federal prosecutors say he stored them in ballroom, stage, in a bathroom, then after he received a subpoena to turn them over, he conspired with an aide to hide them from investigators. these are some of the pictures that are in that order.

trump's former attorney general says the case appears to be airtight. >> if even half of it is true, then he's toast. i mean, it's a very detailed indictment, and it's very, very damning. this idea of presenting trump as a victim here, a victim of a witch hunt is ridiculous. >> trump responded by calling barr a, quote, gutless pig who has weak and totally ineffective. with us now to talk more about this nbc's vaughn hillyard near donald trump's golf club in bedminster, new jersey, nbc's garrett haake outside the federal courthouse in miami. vaughn, what do we know at this hour about the former president's travel plans? >> reporter: we were told that just any minute now, that donald trump is set to leave his bedminster club here in new jersey. it's going to be about a 40 minute motorcade ride to newark

international airport. he will then fly to miami. at that point he will head to doral, which is the resort that he owns down there. for donald trump, i think it's important to note he comes up here in new jersey for the summertime to get away from the humidity of florida, and not to be too cheeky here, but he finds himself in a sticky situation forcing him to go back down there. he has blasted off multiple social media posts over the last three days suggesting this is part of that prosecutorial misconduct, the deep state witch hunt to undermine him. it is us versus them, and for donald trump, this is just an extension at it at a time in which even his own republican rivals are questioning how to move forward and use the evidence brought against him by the department of justice. the prosecutors are looking how to use it against him legally. >> garrett, what's being done to get the courthouse here in miami ready for trump's appearance tomorrow? >> reporter: well, jose, preparations seen and unseen

have been underway since that indictment was first unsealed late last week. federal courthouse tends to be one of the more secure places you can find yourself in general, but you have the u.s. marshals working with the secret service who will handle this one as well as miami police. we've seen some of the steps they've taken to secure this building just within the last two days, including regular sweeps with bomb sniffing dogs and the like. the mayor of miami's going to brief a little bit later today on additional safety precautions here. if what we saw in new york a few months ago during donald trump's first indictment is any indication, the couple of blocks around this courthouse are going to be some of the most locked down pieces of real estate in america by the time he shows up here tomorrow afternoon of that i have no doubt. >> dave, trump's own attorney general called the indictment damning. do you think what barr says, what's your interpretation? >> it's pretty damning.

bill barr is right about this one. the indictment shows that donald trump was involved in every step of this. he helped pack the boxes. he helped store the boxes. he helped hide the boxes not just from the government but from his own lawyer. he disseminated information from within the boxes, and he trade to get people to lie for him. you're talking about violations of the espionage act, which will get you up to ten years per count, obstruction, which can get you up to 20 years per count, and lying, which can get you up to five years per count. really bad for the former president. >> i take you to where this is all going to take place tomorrow, dave. an area you know very well, but that whole area 360 north miami and all of that surrounding, is different than it was in new york in the sense that they're all federal buildings there, and it's downtown miami. but it's in the part of downtown miami where you can bet the security is going to be extraordinary. >> yeah, i think that's why they moved it down to miami because it really should be up in palm beach county. there's no connection between

this case and miami, which is 71 miles away from west palm beach. but i think they are having the arraignment there because they have a bigger facility with better infrastructure and a security apparatus they feel comfortable with. i'm still not convinced that the trial will be in miami. there's a good chance it could be in palm beach county or even fort pierce. that's 58 miles north of palm beach. >> how's that work? what's the process that would geographically move this? >> if judge cannon stays on this case she may say i'm not driving to miami every day. that could be a factor. now, the clerk could say -- no, the security is needed in miami. we have to have it in miami, but that would be quite a burden on the parties, the witnesses, the judges, the prosecutors, because they don't live down there and it's a long way away. >> there you see still at the former president's club in bedminster, there's some movement. there are people there outside those automobiles.

vaughn, what's the mood in trump world since -- the unsealing of the indictment? >> reporter: right, despite what they say, nobody wants to face a knuckle ball, and yet, you have to face the reality that that is. you're in the batter's box, and donald trump is having to put together a defense legal team at the same time he is trying to run a political operation. his team is still quite small here around him, and that is part of the difficulty, as you saw two of his key lawyers over the weekend leave his defense team. of course there is concern, of course that's not also what they are publicly saying out loud. what you did see here are some of his most ardent allies like lindsey graham go on television and continue to press the case, questioning why hillary clinton was not charged. of course there are important distinctions between the two cases. fbi director james comey at the time said there was no clear intent of mishandling of

classified documents on the part of the secretary, but also that there was no clear obstruction of justice. that is very different than what jack smith laid out on friday in his press conference, and that is where for donald trump the reality is that he is being forced away from his compound here in new jersey to go down for this arraignment, and he is going to next year, if in fact, this trial were to go forward, to have to sit in front of a courtroom. at the same time, though, there is the reality that these republicans are facing and donald trump's allies tell me they are not ignorant to, and that that the likes of ron desantis and mike pence are going to have to decide whether they continue to defend donald trump as they have in years past over these types of investigations or do they put themselves in the position of being subjugated to being a part of the so-called deep state that donald trump has compelled his millions of supporters to look at this lens through.

it's us versus them, and this is just another extension of that. >> and so vaughn, as you're speaking, we've been showing full these images, live images from our chopper of the caravan that is taking the former president from his home in bedminster club in new jersey to newark international airport where he will board his plane and head down to mia, and this i'm told is about a 35 to 40 minute drive from his bedminster club to newark. there you see the caravan that is taking donald trump to the airport. we'll stay with these images, but dave, i want to talk a little bit about something that we mentioned at the beginning, which is a possibility that the arraignment tomorrow could be delayed. part of the process could go forward, some of it may not. it all depends on whether the former president has a local attorney team in place. >> yeah, they could ifurcate

the whole hearing, he'll get his fingerprints done. he'll get his bond or be released without bond with some conditions. you need a lawyer with you to plead not guilty, and he's certainly going to plead not guilty. he doesn't have local counsel yet. he's waiting to obtain one. you can anticipate trump will seek more delays in the future. >> so you need a local lawyer that's i guess certified, right, by the bar in florida? i mean, is that what you need in order to do this? but you can bifurcate the other part? >> you need a lawyer who's admitted into local district court, southern district of florida, and the federal court could temporarily allow someone, but apparently they're not doing that so this thing could get delayed. >> how is trump's alleged retention of classified documents different from the alleged mishandling of

documents, i don't know, by biden, clinton, hillary clinton, and former vice president pence? >> yeah, this is the argument that the maga uncle makes at dinner. yeah, what about hillary's emails. it's like night and day. when hillary was investigated for her emails, james comey said she was sloppy, careless, but it was not intentional. she didn't intend to keep classified documents. she didn't know there were classified documents on the server. donald trump knew, tried to hide it, obstruct it. this is why mike pence had his case dismissed. there was no case to begin with. they had the investigation dropped because mike pence cooperated with the government. he didn't know he had classified documents and that's why joe biden's investigation will also be dropped sometime soon. >> even though it is still underway, and there are differences because he was vice president at the point, which may or may not have some differences there, but it's interesting because they insist and the former president just in his, you know, rally over the

weekend was insisting over and over again precisely about what about hillary clinton, what about biden, what about my own former vice president? >> yeah, it's not the possession of the documents that interests prosecutors. it's the refusal to give them back. it's the obstruction. and that's why i think it's easily explainable to the american people. it's the obstruction. you could put it on a bumper sticker. >> vaughn hillyard, garrett haake, thank you, david if you'd stay with us, you're going to stay with us for much of the morning. we're going to be dissecting this step by step as you see there in part of your screen the caravan taking the former president from his club in bedminster to newark international airport. up next, who is walt nautan trump's co-defendant, whether the prosecution's case relies on him flipping on his boss. we're back in 60 seconds. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. ée diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. help make trading feel effortless.

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14 past the hour, how the case against donald trump proceeds could depend on the actions of the judge assigned to hear it. the chief clerk of the south florida federal court system tells nbc news the case was randomly assigned to judge aileen cannon who was appointed by trump. as our nbc news colleagues noted, quote, she will now oversee a trial that experts believe could influence the american public's trust in the fairness of the court system for years to come. joining us now to talk more about this is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian in miami and dave aronberg is back with us this morning. so ken, what more do we know about your reporting that tomorrow's arraignment may not go ahead as scheduled? >> reporter: well, jose, the issue here i'm told is that donald trump needs to hire local

counsel, as you and dave were just discussing. and our reporting is he hasn't done that yet, and at least one prominent miami defense attorney has turned him down, and so without local counsel, i'm told the arraignment portion of what's supposed to happen tomorrow may have to be postponed. they would still do the surrender and the first appearance before a magistrate. the arraignment, which is where you waive reading of the indictment and you enter a plea, may have to be postponed because you need local counsel to do that. i've got to believe that at the end of the day, former president trump will be able to find a lawyer in miami certified to practice in the southern district of florida who can represent him. walt nauta, his butler and co-defendant will also have to have local counsel. he has a lawyer in washington, d.c., stan woodward, but he'll also need local counsel in order to have this arraignment go forward. >> ken, what's the significance of judge cannon being assigned to hear this case? >> reporter: well, look, it isn't just that she was appointed by former president

trump, a lot of judges have been appointed by former president trump and have ruled fairly in many cases involving him and his administration. the issue is that her rulings in the -- in imposing a special master on the search warrant process as this case was being investigated were so outside the legal norms, and experts from both sides of the political spectrum said this, and they were totally slapped down by the appeals court that she is perceived as a person willing to go outside the norm to help donald trump. whether that's fair or not, that's the perception. so there's a great deal of worry, and look, the judge in this case can really impact how quickly it proceeds, whether it can proceed before the election, what kinds of motions can be made, whether they're, you know, legally sound or not. take a listen to a legal scholar that i talked to, ryan goodman, an nyu law professor about his concerns about what judge cannon could do in this case. >> the problem is that she has demonstrated such bias in her

prior rulings so the idea that it would go back to her courtroom, the standard in the 11th circuit in terms of their local rules is that does her holding the case create damage to public confidence in the courts. the answer you would think is yes. >> reporter: the issue, though, is that it's a pretty high bar for the justice department to make a motion for her to recuse, and she would have to rule on it, and if she ruled against it, then it would go up to the appeals court. a lot of experts i'm talking to think there's a remote chance of that happening. >> so dave, what are some of the other issues that having judge cannon on this case could have an impact on? >> i don't think she's going to dismiss the charges or suppress major evidence, if she ever tried to do that, and i don't think she will. it would go right up to the 11th circuit. she doesn't want to be put in time-out again. where i think she could hurt the prosecutors is to delaying the process.

she has a lot of control over the timetable, and trump is going to try to delay, delay, delay, he wants to push this out well beyond the 2024 election. and that's where cannon could go along and be a problem for prosecutors, and it's hard to overturn those decisions on appeal. >> and cannon has the responsibility that goes pretty much all the way through the state of florida? >> well, she's a local federal judge in the southern district of florida. she's one of four in the west palm beach division. there's no conspiracy here that, well, how did she get picked out of 20 or 10 judges. it's 1 out of 4, and a lot depends on the workload, and she just may have had a lighter workload so she got the case. federal judge has a lot of power, subject to review by the 11th circuit, which has already intervened and repudiated her. i think she knows she's being scrutinized. >> when she was overturned by the 11th circuit, it was three

conservatives, two of them appointed by donald trump himself. >> as ken was talking about, trump isn't the only one charged in this case. his, you know, assistant, walt nauta was also included in this. what are the pressures that he or what's the case that he is dealing with? >> he lied. he pulled a martha stewart. he lied to federal investigators, and it was obvious he was lying. he didn't know about the movement of the boxes. they had him on video. people lie but video doesn't. he's facing really charges in this indictment. the feds, i think, want to flip him. they don't need to because they've got other evidence like the words from trump's own lawyer evan corcoran, they've got access to his notes because of the crime fraud exception. >> how does that work, the exception to the client privilege? >> attorney/client privilege is sacrosanct unless you're trying to use your lawyer to facilitate a crime, and the department of justice said that and the courts agreed so they got access to

evan corcoran's notes. he was meticulous with his notes under the legal doctrine of cya because he didn't want to be charged himself for the obstruction. those notes are a treasure-trove for jack smith. >> i thank you both very much for being with us this morning. up next, the unbelievable miracle rescue out of the colombian jungle. how four children including a baby less than a year old survived alone for 40 days in the amazon after a plane crash. we're going to get a live report from bogota. plus, part of a major artery for congressmen commuting in the northeast, shut down after part of it collapsed due to a massive fire. how this could cause major headaches for months to come. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. ée diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. et lets her pick exactly what she wants and save on every perk. sadie's getting her plan ready for a big trip. travel pass, on. nice iphone 14 pro! cute couple. trips don't last forever. neither does summer love.

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25 past the hour. this morning commuters on part of i-95 are facing delays after a section of the highway actually collapsed in philadelphia on sunday.

it happened when a tanker truck carrying cargo caught fire. today pennsylvania governor josh shapiro is set to issue a disaster declaration for repairs which are expected to take months. nbc's george solis joins us from philadelphia. george, good morning. what are we learning today? >> reporter: good morning, jose. talk about a nightmare scenario. just imagine for the drivers that were there as this thing caught fire, petroleum-based product we're told from the governor's office that exploded causing the northbound side to collapse. the southbound also compromised. right now heavy machinery on site carefully removing that debris. at this point we're told that vehicle, that tanker is still there in the rubble. they're trying to fish it out so this investigation can move forward. a number of agencies here on the ground incluing the ntsb, the national highway administration will also be here, and of course you mentioned the traffic nightmare that is lingering because the repairs are going to take months. around the city of philadelphia

there are a number of detours. this morning transportation secretary pete buttigieg spoke about the repairs and his commitment to making sure that this roadway is repaired as soon as possible. take a listen. >> we've got this emergency relief funding, and we can fund and reimburse the activity that are going on to swiftly get that road back to normal, but just to be clear, swiftly is not going to be overnight. definitely not days, if it's weeks, we're not talking about a couple of weeks here. >> reporter: jose, as you mentioned, governor josh shapiro expected to issue that declaration for the emergency funding to get down here as quickly as possible to begin these repairs. the city has a pretty good plan in place to get people to and from. you know with the summer months approaching, you know this is going to be a traffic nightmare for weeks if not months. jose. >> oh, my gosh, george solis in philadelphia, thank you so very much. this morning former italian prime minister and media mogul

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them for 15 days. but at the end, they were tired. fortunately they stopped so the girl when she was found by an indigenous volunteer, she was holding her 1-year-old sister, and next to her there was a 9-year-old girl and then kind of hiding in the jungle there was a boy who was 4 years old, and they were asking for sausages for food, but of course they couldn't provide them anything. they have to be taken to the hospital. and now they are doing fine. >> let me ask you, what about wilson the dog, that's also something that a lot of people are worried about. >> what is that? i'm sorry. >> the dog, there's a dog that is missing that the forces when they first came in to search for wilson. >> this is important, leslie who

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. 37 past the hour. new polling from cbs ugov kbifs gives us a closer look at where voters stand. 80% of the rest of the country sees trump's retention of classified documents as a national security threat. only 38% of likely republican voters agree. joining us now with more is nbc news national correspondent gabe gutierrez in doral, florida. also with us victoria defrancesco soto, the dean of the clinton school of public service at the university of arkansas. she is an msnbc contributor. so gabe, you're just across the street from trump's miami golf club, what are you seeing there? >> reporter: hi there, jose, good morning. not too far from you here in south florida, and a classic miami rainstorm just blew through here, so but as we can see, there's a heavy security

presence here in doral. in just a few hours, the former president is expected to arrive here after coming from new jersey. as we understand it, several of the former president's supporters are set to greet him here as they often do, waving signs, waving flags. the former president is expected to overnight in doral, stay here tomorrow morning before traveling downtown to the federal courthouse for this unprecedented arraignment. he's expected to go back to new jersey for a speech and fundraiser tomorrow night back in new jersey. but jose, this is, of course, unprecedented in so many ways as you've been discussing. we expect the former president to be here at his doral property in just a few hours this afternoon. >> among likely gop voters, four out of five say even if trump is convicted in this case, he should still be able to saev

second term as president. is there nothing that these supporters see as crossing a line? is there going to -- do you think something we're going to be seeing going forward? >> taking a step back, this is something we saw in the past. so through president trump's impeachment, through various legal troubles, through various moral troubles. the access hollywood tape, we have seen his core supporters, the base of the republican party stick with him. i don't see how this could be too different for the base. my question comes back to the middle, the moderate republican, the chamber of commerce republican that in the 2016 election and to an extent in the 2020 election held their nose and voted for trump. are these folks vocal supporters going to go along with this. this is a different level. mueller talking about national

security, when we're talking about the breadth and depth of this. i think time is going to tell, and it's also going to depend on whether his gop primary rivals use this to attack trump. we'll have to wait and see. >> and victoria, some of them, very few so far of trump's opponents in the 2024 republican primary are using this indictment as an opportunity to speak out about let's say corruption in the justice department, and i'm just wondering, how are they going to thread that needle going forward? is it something you think that the criticisms out of the doj, criticism of the former president could be a small fire that could grow? >> i think it's going to depend on the candidate, and it's going to depend on the voter and what that lane is e. if you look at your more moderate contenders, chris christie for example, they're going to start bashing the president and feel it out. are people supporting him on that or is it following on best

years. i think depending on that we're going to tart to see the gop candidate ramp up or maybe even pull him back. i think right now all of them are very cautious because they look at the same poll numbers we do, and they see the dominance that donald trump has. >> and you know, gabe, going back to you in doral, coming into work today, there were no clouds. it was sunny, and then there was a rainbow, and then it started raining, but that's typical south florida, right? so gabe, how is the situation out there? can we expect, do you think, a lot of people to come out to be there to receive the former president? >> reporter: well, and jose, that's always the big question, right, when the former president comes to either this location or the mar-a-lago estate. his supporters do turn out. unclear exactly how many will show up this time. i am seeing just beyond our camera position a few of them are starting to arrive here with

flags. with red hats, maga hats, and they expect to greet him. as you have said, his supporters see this as a political prosecution and they expect a voice, you know, to voice those concerns this afternoon. unclear how many people will show up. there is a haech security presence as the former president is expected to arrive this afternoon before heading to the federal courthouse tomorrow. >> thank you both very much for being with us this morning. up next, what the white house is now admitting about china's efforts to spy on the u.s. plus, new this morning, jorg chase reaches a settlement with victims of the late sex offender jeffrey epstein for hundreds of millions of dollars. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.

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morning, jpmorgan chase agreed to settle a lawsuit that accused the company of facilitating jeffrey epstein's sex trafficking enterprise. joining us now with more, cnbc's frank holland. what do we know about this? >> good morning to you. we do know a large number of jeffrey epstein victims identified only as jane doe may have reached a final settlement with big bank jpmorgan. the terms, a $290 million settlement. that's according to cnbc sources. it is still subject to court approval and came just hours before a judge ruled the case could proceed as a class action lawsuit. the deal would settle claims filed by an unnamed woman using the pseudonym of jane doe claiming the bank benefitted and facilitated jeffrey epstein's sex trafficking operation. she claimed she was raped and trafficked and sued on behalf of herself and other victims. jpmorgan saying the association with epstein was a mistake and has continued to deny any knowledge of what they call

heinous crimes. jpmorgan is scheduled for an october 23rd trial with the u.s. virgin islands. epstein owned a private island where he also committed crimes. prosecutors claim jpmorgan continued to work with epstein even after discovering he was a predator. epstein committed suicide in 2019 while in custody after being arrested on sex trafficking charges. >> frank holland, i thank you so very much, and i'm being told now that you can see there that the caravan has been taken, the former president has arrived at newark international airport, and there you see folks coming out of the suvs, and it's probably -- there he is, the former president, and he's going right into his plane that will take him to miami international airport and from there he will be going on to his golf club in doral, florida, breaking news images of the former president getting onto his plane in newark, at newark international

airport. i want to take you now to another story that has been developing. china has been spying on the u.s. from a cuban outpost for years. that according to the biden administration, the admission comes just days after the white house initially denied a wall street journal report on this issue. officials now say that the chinese have been eavesdropping from cuba for years, it's something the current administration they say inherited. joining us now is nbc's courtney kube. good morning. this story has evolved to say the least. what do we know today? >> yeah, that's right, so "the wall street journal" had this story late last week saying tha cuba and china were in the final stretch of some sort of a deal to establish this eves dropping post in cuba. the administration, the white house, the pentagon, others came out very quickly and said the story is inaccurate. well, fast forward about 36 hours later and an administration official said

well, in fact, cuba has had an, sorry, china has had an eves dropping post or listening post in cuba for years. and then in fact, when president biden came into office, he and his senior team were briefed on it and they made a decision early on to put some sort of motion, some sort of plan in motion that they could somehow curtail china's efforts. we don't know what that looks like. in fact, the administration official even said that in 2019 under president donald trump, that somehow that eves dropping post was enhanced or upgraded. all that, we know that in fact china does have surveillance capability that exists just south of the u.s. in cuba where they're able to monitor u.s. communications and that has existed for years now, jose. >> it's amazing that they initially said no, no, no and now they say it's been going on

for years. do we know what kind of information they've been getting and they continue to get 24/7? >> very little. that's the thing. what we also don't know is what this 2019 upgrade looked like. so you know, if it's something that's able to listen to communications, think of everything from cell phone communications. remember, cuba isn't that far from a major military installation. you know that well, jose. so there is the possibility depending on how extensive this network of sensors is, there's a possibility they're able to use this to monitor communications in the southern part of the u.s. what we don't know is how far into the u.s. this may stretch. we have more questions than answers about this. going back to the idea that the administration initially denied this, i pressed an official over the weekend.

they maintained that the specific part of this story that they called inaccurate was the fact there's something new and in fact, this was a problem they quote unquote inherited. >> okay. thank you so much. good seeing you. >> thanks, jose. up next, the intense security planning underway ahead of trump's arraignment in miami tomorrow. there you see his plane. newark international airport. surely it will be taking off shortly to mia. you're watching jose diaz-balart reports on msnbc. reports on msnbc t lets her pick exactly what she wants and save on every perk. sadie's getting her plan ready for a big trip. travel pass, on. nice iphone 14 pro! cute couple. trips don't last forever. neither does summer love. so, sadie's moving on. apple music? check. introducing myplan. the first and only unlimited plan to give you exactly what you want, so you only pay for what you need. act now and get iphone 14 pro

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former president trump has just boarded his plane in newark and is set to leave for florida ahead of his arraignment tomorrow. security preps are underway for what will likely be a tightly

choreographed event. the mayor and police chief are expected to hold a press conference on how the city is preparing. clint, good morning. what are the security preps looking like? >> i imagine that there's one thing about this one is there is secret service protection for the former president so they're going to be working very, very closely with state and local authorities which they know well because president trump, he lives in florida so they coordinate his activities all the time. so it's one plus in terms of security side. i think separately, it will be how things are handled going into through and coming out of the courthouse. that's where we'll see a lot of coordination. i think that's where people will be particularly worried. in the case of the new york indictment just a little over a month ago, we saw that arrangement work out seamlessly.

they had it preplanned and prepared. i'm hoping they have something similar. i imagine they will. >> clint, these folks have had high profile cases they've dealt with here in south florida. what are some of the thing that is go into preparation and you're saying the advantage i guess of having the secret service involved. so there's a lot more communication. but what kind of preparations are underway so that you know, things remain as calm and organized as can be in what's going to be just a traffic nightmare and more? >> yeah. they're going to be cordening off certain areas of town. i would imagine they're going to have security perimeters out. the other part is they'll be looking for any sort of early warning or forwarded intelligence about what they might encounter that day. it might be something like setting up areas if people want to protest, if they want to observe and in terms of the media, where they're going to be

positioned. beyond that, what they're going to be particularly worried about is do they have indication, some kind of stochastic attack, meaning someone who wants to make a show of it and wants to mobilize it in way that is aggressive in such a way that it commits violence. separate from that, i want to note how this is different from other incidents, this came up pretty quickly. the indictment landed late last week. the arraignment is on tuesday. we haven't seen the proud boys or oath keepers calling for mass mobilizations of people. the risk is really on stochastic attacks rather than a january 6th style event. >> what kind of prep work is done to monitor those places? >> yeah, i'm sure at this point

they'll do a very defensive stance in terms of you'd call it a defensive intelligence briefing where you're trying to defend the location and all the individuals moving around there. that would include online or in person threats. they would have a quick reaction plan for those. >> clint watts, thank you so much. good to see you. that wraps up the hour for me. you can reach me on twitter and instagram and watch highlights from today's show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," former president trump flying from new jersey to florida today to face an arraignment in federal court tomorrow. 37 counts of allegedly retaining national defense and classified documents after he left office then hiding them from the fbi and his own lawyers instead of turning them over. trump blasting