makes new ones, like this track by drake and the weeknd that attracted millions of listeners except it's not real or not really drake and the weeknd. a british music festival has already featured a virtual john lennon. how long before the beatles last performance on a roof in london is no longer their last performance. ♪ get back to where you once belong ♪ >> a message by the beatles from the past that could be about our ai future. keir simmons, nbc news. >> i'm all in on that. we've got a lot to cover on our second hour of "chris jansing reports," so let's get right to it. to it at this hour, looking for payback, new details on how house republicans are trying to

derail the special counsel probe of donald trump. president biden tells the dnc and his campaign team to stay quiet about trump's indictment inside his 2024 strategy. plus, fierce fighting in ukraine as vladimir putin tries to claim kyiv's counter offensive is failing. we're live with an update on what's happening on the front lines. and breaking right now, what investors have been waiting for, a key decision from the federal reserve on interest rates. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments and we do begin this hour with that breaking news from the fed. cnbc's morgan brennan is here for cnbc on msnbc. i think, morgan, we're on a ten-meeting streak by the fed of raising interest rates. what just happened? >> hold, that is what just happened. so we had ten raises, and now we hold. the federal reserve hitting the pause button on its campaign of interest rate hikes, as i say these words, keeping the federal

funds rate unchanged at 5 to 5 1/4%. this after ten straight increases that started back in march of 2022 when rates were essentially 0. why are we seeing this pause? inflation is coming down. the economy is slowing. the banking turmoil, though, largely stabilized, still very fresh and the fed has hiked aggressively over the past year plus up until this point. rate hikes take time to settle into and impact the economy. central bankers here after that cpi print that we got yesterday showed the lowest pace of price increases in more than two years. after that, central bankers are feeling comfortable here to hit the pause button and basically assess the data and see whether they're going to have to raise rates again in the future. this is why investors are calling this a quote unquote, hawkish pause, or a skip. it's also why the fed is releasing its economic projections with this report on the heels of this meeting that just finished for the fed, and why that's being watched so

closely as well to see what it has to say about the possibility of more rate hikes in the future. but right now, just taking a look at the markets reacting negatively. the dow down about a half percent. in terms of what this means for consumers, it means your borrowing costs with not necessarily going to go higher on the heels of this fed decision just now but they're going to stay at these elevated rates, these elevated levels that we have been seeing for months now. >> morgan brennan with that breaking news for us. thank you. to the war in ukraine now. nbc's raf sanchez is following the counter offensive which vladimir putin claims is failing but what's ukraine say? what's the reality on the ground, raf? >> reporter: chris, the reality is the ukrainians have made some minor gains so far. the decisive moment of this battle is yet to come. what we've seen so far is

ukrainian forces liberating a string of relatively small villages in donetsk in the east, but these villages are in front of russia's main defensive lines. what we have not yet seen is ukrainian forces mounting an all-out assault on those russian fortified positions and nas -- and that is going to be the test of the counter offensive. can the ukrainians provide the armor, weaponry, can they punch holes in these russian positions. can they take territory and can they hold it? it is too early to say as president putin is claiming that this offensive has failed, but it's also too early right now to say that it has made major discusses. what we can say, chris, is that putin's absolutely relentless wave of missile strikes is continuing in ukraine. this morning it was families in odessa who were jolted out of their beds by russian cruise missiles slamming into the city. three civilians were killed there, another three civilians killed in donetsk in the east

where so much of this fighting has been happening, and this coming just one day after another cruise missile hit an apartment building in president zelenskyy's hometown killing 11 people. so there has been no let up in this at all. we did see president putin yesterday at the kremlin hosting a kind of unusual round table with russian military bloggers. now, chris, these bloggers, very influential in russia. the kremlin is very sensitive to what they say because a lot of russians read their reports on apps like telegram, so the president of russia sitting down with them, saying a couple of things, one, there is a rumor sweeping russia right now that the kremlin is about to order a new wave of mobilization. so once again, conscripting russian men, sending them sometimes without much training to the front lines in ukraine. putin saying he sees no need for that kind of conscription at this point, chris. >> raf sanchez, thank you. president biden has been a very specific plan when it comes

to the issue of donald trump's indictment. say as little as possible. i want to bring in "politico" white house bureau chief and host of "way too early" on msnbc, jonathan lemire, you broke this story. i read it when i got up this morning. what's the thinking in the room behind you or in the house behind you? >> so president biden, when he took office, right from the beginning, said he wanted to be clear there would be a bright line between the white house and the department of justice. he didn't want there to be any perception that the white house would have any sort of say or sway in what doj did. because he felt like the department got politicized during the four years of donald trump. and as donald trump now, his predecessor faces charges, federal charges leveed by the department of justice. joe biden is biting his tongue. it's more than that. he's telling everyone who works for him to do the same. as we report an explicit

directive to white house staffers. we don't want to be seen as influencing the investigation, and we don't want to get in the way of the republicans have a bad news story. suggesting to the democratic lawmakers they do the same. they can't control them. the strategy has faced a little bit of second guessing from some democrats privately wondering if it's the right thing to do, first of all, that biden would stay silent in what is undeniably an important moment, the former president of the united states being charged federally with a crime. there's a sense the president, current president should address there, but secondly, it also of course, would be a useful political weapon for biden if he and trump were to square off next year in the 2024 general election. biden, at least for now, is steadfast, that he won't change his mind. i'm told by people close to him, he's also very mindful of not wanting to weigh in on doj business at a time when a charging decision is expected about his son, hunter biden,

fairly soon, so for now, the white house keeping it quiet, but the issue one estimate points out to me, will they keep the same stance, let's say months from now or next year if trump also faces charges about election interference or january 6th, does that put the white house in a bind that they can't talk about those things either? >> jonathan lemire, great reporting there. thank you so much, appreciate it. meantime, house republicans are ramping up their attacks on special counsel jack smith including a push to have his office defunded all together. nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill for us. who's leading the charge there, julie? >> reporter: it belongs to none other than congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, and as the white house remains silent in their strategy, republicans here on capitol hill are anything but, in the to greene who is mounting an effort to defund the special counsel's office. there is of course chairman jim

jordan of the judiciary committee who leads the weaponization committee, a vehicle they already have, they established earlier this congress to essentially look into matters of what they say is the government being weaponized against conservatives, in this case, the former president. here's what they're doing as having power of one-half of one branch of government here. of course they only control the house by a slim majority. we've seen them how long it took to get legislation moving after the brief hiatus. they're threatening the power of the purse, this is something they can feasibly put on the table, it's not something that's going to go anywhere. democrats control the senate here. it's going to continue to be something they talk about. jim jordan trying to potentially put a subpoena on the table for special counsel jack smith, to explain himself, sending a letter to merrick garland, the attorney general, these are all steps they're taking to establish themselves further in the former president's corner. greene, of course, last weekend, with former president trump. this week she was in speaker

mccarthy's suite, telling him about her ideas, including this one, to defund the special counsel's office. look, as long as mccarthy hasn't batted those ideas away, in fact, in the public, they've done the complete opposite, they're going to try to do everything they can to stay loud on it. >> julie tsirkin, thank you so much. >> donald trump may not have seen his last arraignment this year. new developments in the georgia and washington investigations when we return in just 60 seconds. 60 seconds. buy one footlong, get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that's a deal worth celebrating. man, what are you doing?! get it before it's gone on the subway app. ♪♪ - this is our premium platinum coverage map and this is consumer cellular's map. - i don't see the difference, do you? - well, that one's purple. - [announcer] get the exact same coverage as the nation's leading carrier. starting at $20. consumer cellular. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools,

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electors testified before the grand jury investigating january 6th, and in georgia, the fulton county sheriff's office revealing that it's now consulting with law enforcement in other states as they prepare for a possible indictment in august. i want to bring in nbc news justice reporter, ryan reilly and katherine christian, a former manhattan d.a. and msnbc contributor. let's focus on the georgia case first. fani willis has cleared time in august. we know she has set a self-imposed deadline that she wants to get this done by the end of the grand jury term of september 1st. now we hear about the extra steps that security is taking to make sure they have all of their t's crossed and their i's dotted. what does all of this tell you? coming soon? >> well, yes, she actually last month gave a heads up to the courthouse. she suggested to the chief judge, there will be no trial schedule. she gave a heads up to law enforcement. she alerted the fbi for

protective measures. she said she's keeping most of her staff home. they're going to work remotely. only assistants who are working on the case and the top execs will be in the office at that time. so i think she's ready to go. and i think yesterday the sheriff from fulton county went to see what the security measures were in miami. so they're prepared if an indictment is voted. >> ryan, you have been on top of january 6th from the very beginning of this investigation. what's the significance of these two nevada republicans being brought into testify. >> you know, it's big and it kind of reminds me of 4-year-olds playing soccer, where everything follows the one thing, the trump arraignment. that was huge news. on the other hand, we have this monumental push forward in the january 6th grand jury investigation. and i think, you know, we should refer to this as the january 6th grand jury, but really it's more than that. it's all about interrupting the peaceful transfer of power and whether there was criminality assigned to that.

and finding criminality is this open question. that's not settled. when you talk more broadly about the fake elector scheme and efforts to actually obstruct the peaceful transfer of power that go beyond just the physical attack on the u.s. capitol on january 6th, there's a lot more that prosecutors can play with there, and that was a key indication when we saw two of these fake electors show up in d.c. federal court yesterday to testify before the grand jury that's been going for a while now. jack smith's investigation obviously into the documents in mar-a-lago had sort of pivoted and went to miami and was there for a few weeks, really, before reporters really got wind of it. but this january 6th grand jury has really been hanging on there in d.c., and that's something that i think we could potentially see some developments coming out of down the line, and an indication that jack smith's investigation is really just at its start. >> down the line could mean a lot of things. give me your best knowledge, where does this investigation stand overall?

>> reporter: i think we're come to go a critical point there, given who we're bringing in. this is a long time coming. one of the individuals who testified before the grand jury, had his cell phone seized. mike pence has also testified before the grand jury as well, so there's a lot of moving pieces in there. the grand jury, i think, has collected a lot of information, and you know, given how tight of a wrap, i think, we've seen that prosecutors and the justice department have kept on a lot of these developments, you know, i wouldn't be terribly surprised if we saw some news come in the next few weeks, potentially out of that grand jury there. >> so potentially from there, potentially from fani willis, we already know the ongoing situation with e. jean carroll, and of course yesterday's arrest, so you have so much going on. the question has always been timing, right, for example, there are folks who are saying, well, if this case from yesterday doesn't actually go to

trial until he's in office, if he would get elected, then you cannot, you know, bring those -- bring a case against a sitting president. there's so many complications. the attorney general letitia james suggested this week that her fraud case against the trump organization, as well as the hush money case, even georgia would take a backseat to mar-a-lago's indictment, how would the timing work if he potentially has all of these multiple cases? do all the judges get together and come to an agreement? what happens? >> the judges, the prosecutors, letitia james is scheduled this fall. that's an affirmed trial date. he actually just had a trial, so what will be the second trial he's had this year. so that can be done. that's a civil case. it's not a criminal case. and then the manhattan d.a.'s office indictment is set for a firm trial date in march, so that will be the next thing

done, and then the indictment yesterday could happen right after that. and then fulton county, if that becomes an indictment, then it will probably be fulton county and the mar-a-lago case deciding, and obviously i think she would defer to the federal prosecutors and the federal judge. >> is that what it is? a decision to defer? because, for example, when we listened to jack smith, jack smith said i can be ready very quickly. in fact, i think he gave a matter of days that he would be able to do this. is it about, i mean, if they're all ready to go, is it a more serious charge, does federal always take precedent over state? >> not necessarily. if jack smith can actually get a trial ready before october, you know, every other prosecutor obviously will stand back because of this more -- it's actually out of all of the charges that are swirling around mr. trump, this is probably the special counsel the most serious. we haven't heard about january 6th yet, if that's an

indictment, you can probably say that's equally serious. >> yeah, we don't want to get ahead of ourselves. there haven't been other indictments, but you do see the complications that could develop. catherine christian, thank you so much. ryan reilly, thank you so much, my friend. banning pride month decorations, plus supreme court, will the highest court be held to the highest standards? we've got that next. rt be held to the highest standards we've got that next.

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starbucks is denying the union's accusation that it banned pride decorations calling it false information and citing unwavering support for the lgbtq community. the union has said that corporate management asked workers to take down pride month decorations in at least 21 states over the last two weeks. it comes as target, of course, has been putting reported bomb threats in over five states over those pieces of pride merchandise, some of which were taken out of the stores. nbc's matthew lavidis is covering this. tell us more about what we know about starbucks and how did this year become so different than pride month in the past? >> starbucks sent an e-mail out to all of its u.s. stores reissuing the statement they gave to us, they are committed

to the lgbt community, and the statement is community false. we have a little bit of a he said, she said going on. as we hear from workers, we'll find out where the truth lies. as you asked, over the last year, you know, pride campaigns have been at fortune 500 companies for the last decade or so. over the last year, we have seen a surge in homophobic rhetoric, transphobic rhetoric coming from huge politicians like governor ron desantis, marjorie taylor greene, senator josh hawley. as this rhetoric becomes more and more normalized, blasted on fox news day in and day out, the demonization of lgbtq people has really grown about to the point where a company putting out a pride campaign, which would have been typical call a year ago or seemingly routine has now stoked outrage among the small but vocal cohort of conservative voters. >> would you say, though, that the companies that are responding to it, and you know,

obviously target would make an argument, maybe even some of their employees would make an argument that when you start have bomb threats, people start getting nervous, employees get nervous, customers get nervous, whether you agree with that or not, but the number of companies who are backing off is much smaller than the ones who are standing firm. i'm thinking about when i walk outside my office every day, outside at 30 rock, there's a yellow brick road that is in fact a pride rainbow, right, and it goes all around the most popular tourist areas of this area. >> correct, i mean, you're going to see every fortune 500 company, including target, including starbucks, including bud light put out or sponsor pride celebrations across the world. the number, the few that get the attention for maybe subtly backing off in certain areas, and target still has its lgbtq pride merchandise at most of its stores. it only pulled some of it. but the over arching theme is that corporate america stands

with the lgbtq community. >> yeah, and also it is right, i think, to point out that there is, as you say, these growing threats against the lgbtq community, and that's one thing that people need to understand. it's good to see you. >> you too. >> thanks for coming, matthew, appreciate it. this hour, we're waiting to hear whether supreme court justices clarence thomas and samuel alito have filed their financial disclosure forms after asking for extensions last week. members of the senate judiciary committee aren't waiting because right now they're holding a hearing about reforming the supreme court's ethics rules. this move, given new impetus by justice clarence thomas and the lavish gifts and trips he and his family received from texas billionaire harlan crow. i know this hearing just started but what's happened so far, and what do the folks on the committee say their goal is today? >> reporter: they really want to try and determine what effort

the senate or the congress in general can make in terms of enforcing a code of ethics upon the supreme court, and they brought in a group of experts to answer questions about that impact issue, and where the ethics within the supreme court lie, who are responsible for enforcing those ethics, and what, if anything, can be done. in many ways, though, this is really just a pressure campaign by the members of the senate judiciary committee as they try and bring to light this issue that for many years, the supreme court has had a very lax approach when it comes to ethics in that they're largely self-policing when it comes to issues like these, and that's how these issues related to clarence thomas, and samuel alee -- alito, the gifts that were given came to light because their disclosure rules are pretty light. a lot of this is a fact-finding mission. part of this supreme court hearing today, but a lot of it as well, a pressure campaign

against the justices themselves to try and get them to do something to reform this process. >> one of the arguments has been made apart from what we've seen with some of these gifts and whether they're appropriate or inappropriate, why should supreme court justices not be held at least to the highest standards that federal court judges are all across the united states, but my question is what options the senate actually has if they wanted to enforce an ethics code for the supreme court? >> reporter: it's a bit of a murky constitutional question, and i think that's what this hearing is aimed at today, to drill that down or seek opinions, but there is a bit of a consensus, there isn't much that the senate can do or congress can do. the judiciary is a coequal branch of government. they are not policed by the congress. there is a level of oversight but not the type of oversight that could enforce a stringent code of ethics or even provide

penalties if those members of the supreme court don't adhere to that code of ethics. and even if there was an attempt by congress, it would require a bipartisan support of both the house and senate to enforce it on some level and the republicans in the house of representatives and even the republicans in the senate that would require ten votes to try and push something forward are not going to go along with that because it's been the conservative justices that have been the issue right now. so right now congress is in kind of a wait and see mode. they're trying to figure out exactly what options are at their disposal, but in reality, if there's going to be true reform on this matter, chris, it's going to have to come from the justices themselves at least in the short-term. >> ryan nobles, thank you for that. appreciate it. a former president running for reelection while facing potentially years in prison. how much are voters paying attention. how much do they care? nbc's steve kornacki is at the big board with brand new polling. s at the big board with brand new polling. ♪ this is not just delivery. ♪

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movie "rust" is back on the spotlight. prosecutors saying it's likely hannah gutierrez-reed was hung over when she inserted a live bullet into a gun that she knew was going to be used at some point. cinematographer halyna hutchins was killed when baldwin fired the gun that had live ammunition on set. prosecutors saying there are witnesses that will testify that it is likely that gutierrez reid was drinking heavily and smoking marijuana in the evenings. the charge against baldwin was dismissed in april with prosecutors citing new evidence and the need for more time to investigate. hutchins husband matthew telling hoda last year, he believed there were unsafe practices on the set. >> gun safety was not the only

problem on that set. there were a number of industry standards that were not practiced and there's multiple responsible parties. in the end, you know, justice won't bring halyna back, but maybe the memory of her can help keep people safe. >> hutchins has since dropped his lawsuit against the "rust" film makers. prosecutors leveled these new accusations against gutierrez reid last week in response to a motion filed last month by her attorneys that seeked to dismiss her involuntary manslaughter charge. attorneys telling nbc news quote, the prosecution has so mishandled this case, and the case is so weak, they are now resorting to character assassination tactics to further taint the press and jury pool. filming on the set of "rust" resumed in april, 18 months after the deadly accident. miguel almaguer, nbc news.

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baked in. as "usa today" summarizes, deja vu of trump enmeshed in another controversy that would have ended the public career of almost anyone else. instead, he has managed to use charges that he mishandled the nation's most sensitive secrets to strengthen his standing as the front runner for the republican nomination. nbc's steve kornacki joins us at the big board. michael beschloss is here as well, nbc news historian. i know you have been looking at the polling surrounding the indictment, are the charges having any substantial effect on voters' outlook on donald trump. >> if you look, this is a reuters ipsos poll here, just in terms of what's in this indictment here, the idea that trump illegally removed classified documents from the white house, stored them at mar-a-lago, a clear majority of all voters, that's 62% say they

find that to be believable, and if you break that down, though, obviously some big differences here. there's about a third of republicans who say that is believable to them. the majority of republicans say it's not believable, and among independents, nearly 60% find that charge to be believable. then you take it to the next level, and you say, okay, would that, should that be disqualifying? should that disqualify him from being the president again, and you see 50% there, 50% of all voters say they agree that that should be disqualifying. the vast majority of republicans don't. a majority of independents do agree with that. you wonder, is there damage there for donald trump in terms of his 2024 prospects but ask further questions and find some complexity. here's how trump talks about the indictment, it's politically motivated. the poll askings voters do you think this is a politically motivated indictment, and that includes the vast majority of

republicans or if you ask the idea, does this represent the elite class targeting trump because they don't want him to win in 2024, a plurality, 46% of voters agree with that, and overwhelmingly, 83 to 9%, republicans agree with the sentiment. that's one of the reasons, chris , in a poll we got from quinnipiac in the last hour, they have donald trump right now at 53%. they have his nearest competitor, ron desantis, at 23%. so a 30-point advantage for trump in the quinnipiac pole. i think what's notable, quinnipiac polled three weeks ago before all of this break, and the trump margin in that republican race was 31 points, so it's essentially unchanged. he's still over 50% in the newest poll of republican voters, and they did also until the quinnipiac poll test trump versus biden. they do have biden leading the

former president 48-44% three weeks ago. that was 46 to 44%. so if there is damage for trump, it's in the general election, and it's very very small, and of course we live in an era of very very close elections, so very very small changes can be very very big in terms of differences. we're not talking about seeing 10, 20 point swings in the polls here. we're talking about if there is an effect, that's the level we're talking about. >> fascinating stuff, steve. thank you, i appreciate that. >> i was thinking back, 80 million americans were riveted by the watergate hearings, but today americans have lived through two impeachment trials, the manhattan d.a. indictment, the e. jean carroll trial, potential to come, i don't know if there's anything that could bring together 80 million americans to watch a single thing anymore, but does this all say something about a moment in history or just about donald trump or what do you make of

what you just heard from steve? >> well, i think both of those things. as often, chris, your mind and mine run right in the same direction. i think i knew where you were going even before you said, and i think that's a very good comparison. let's take a look at the nixon period, if this was 1974, the people we are talking about who loved richard nixon and voted for him, two years earlier in 1972, biggest presidential landslide in american history, 49 states, those people were falling away from nixon because they were looking at the same newspapers and magazines, and you know, 6:30 eastern television programs on the three major networks as they then were as everyone else. and if you looked at that programming, that programming was saying, you know, nixon had done good things in foreign policy and some other areas, but he had committed some real crimes that were likely to put

him in jail. this is by the beginning of august 1974. that's what everyone was hearing and thinking. now, one thing is that they didn't, you see where i'm going, what there is now, which is a parallel maga media universe. i'm sure you were not watching the cable network that i'm thinking of, but there was a cable network last night that had on one side joe biden, on the other side donald trump, they were both speaking and the chyron was something like want to be dictator has just elected his political opponent. that's something that no one in 1974 would have seen, and the irony is, sorry, this is a little long, but you're just so on point, richard nixon and his 1968 image maker, roger ailes, plotted throughout the presidency, wouldn't it be great if there was a conservative television network, and newspapers and media so people

wouldn't be exposed to this stuff, and it's exactly roger ailes as we know who founded fox news, created much of what we're seeing today, and all i'm saying is that if today's structure existed in 1974, nixon probably would have survived as president. >> really, you think so? that's so interesting. there's another thread with watergate, these suggestions that are growing among republicans, including lindsey graham that the decision to bring the charges isn't just about the law. it shouldn't be just about the law, but also what's good for the country. listen. >> you have to do two things as a prosecutor, you got to prove, you know, the letter of the law. then you got to prove this is the right thing to do. >> gerald ford pardoned richard nixon because he thought it was the right thing to do for the country, right? are there parallels, what is judged as good for the country be more important than the rule of law? >> it's not the business of some federal prosecutor or local prosecutor to decide through the

lens of whatever he or she sees in american politics that maybe i should prosecute someone because it's good for the country or maybe i shouldn't. that's not their job. their job is to enforce the law. and lindsey graham knows that. he's a lawyer. he was in the air force for years. what he says is absolutely ridiculous. those decisions are to be made by a president or a congress or a supreme court, not some prosecutor. so for lindsey graham to say this is jack smith's fault, he knows what he's saying is ridiculous. >> so many more questions, i wish we had more time. michael beschloss, always a pleasure to talk to you. and steve kornacki, thank you so much as well. a controversial vote to oust churches with female pastors, that brand new report ahead. pa that brand new report ahead. from prom dresses to workouts and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past

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at the southern baptist convention, representatives just voted overwhelmingly to oust churches with female pastors. i want to bring in nbc's aaron gilchrist who is following this story for us. what exactly happened? >> just as you were reading that intro, i got confirmation that the same organization, the same annual meeting that has been happened in new orleans, the membership there just voted to essentially ban women from any leadership role in the southern baptist convention. any church that's a part of the southern baptist convention. this is a two-part vote, if you

will, that has to happen. the vote today passed the amendment to changing the constitution for this organization. there will have to be a second vote next year at the next annual convention to make it a permanent move for the church. these two churches in particular that were expelled from the southern baptist convention are fern creek baptist church in louisville, and saddle back church in southern california. it is the largest church of the southern baptist convention, or one of. founded by rick warren, the author of "the purpose driven life," you may be familiar with that book. 23,000 members at this church, and because there were women in roles that earned them the title of pastor in some function, the southern baptist convention membership, 12,000 members at this annual meeting said that was not something that was in line with scripture and not something that was in line with the faith statement of the southern baptist church, and

because those two churches were not in line, they wanted to expel them from the convention, as a result of these women being in those leadership roles, holding titles that included the word pastor. there were impassioned statements made yesterday before the vote by rick warren and by the pastor of fern creek baptist church trying to maintain their memberships in this organization but today the vote that happened, 92% of the voters said they did not want fern creek baptist to stay in the sbc. 89% said the same of saddleback church, and so at this point now, those two churches have been removed from membership, full, from the southern baptist convention. chris. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you for that late breaking news. a u.s. army base is being renamed for a black hero from world war i. fort polk will be known as fort johnson, honoring sergeant william henry johnson who was

wounded 21 times while fighting back against fierce german fours. the western base was previously named for a confederate commander and the military has been moving to strip confederate names from installations, writing quote, sergeant william henry johnson embodied the warrior spirit, and we are deeply honored to bear his name. a new u.n. report says 110 million people have been forced to flee their homes by war, persecution or human rights violations. it's a record breaking figure largely driven by the war in sudan and russia's invasion of ukraine, adding to ongoing catastrophes in the democratic republic of the congo, ethiopia, and myanmar. just today, we saw the human side of the crisis, at least 79 migrants were killed. a boat from libya were capsized off the coast of greece. hundreds of people were rescued, but dozens more are still

believed to be missing. in the lawn today, thousands of mourners gathered to say good-bye to silvio berlusconi. for decades, berlusconi was at the center of italian culture, a media tycoon whose legacy was tarnished by legal and sex scandals. claudio, give us a sense to what berlusconi means to italians? >> reporter: divided public opinion for the last 40 years. italians love berlusconi or despise berlusconi. nobody was indifferent. supporters thought he was a great leader in politics and business. his detractors thought he was a corrupt politician and businessman and that his private life while he was still in

office was an embarrassment for the whole of italy. if you go around the world and ask about berlusconi, they're not going to list his achievements in politics and business, they're going to say bunga, the sex-fooled parties with young women he's been accused of holding in his residence while he was still in office, and it looks like by the look of it today, even after his death, he's as divisive. he had state funerals in milan, which are given to all former prime ministers, but for the first time, former prime minister, silvio berlusconi, a day of mourning has been declared for him, something that has made supporters rejoice, but has disappointed the many people around italy who think he does not deserve that honor. chris? >> we've only got a minute left, so i need you to answer this quickly, but even with this division, and i know that to be true, he got reelected, right? he was back in office?

>> reporter: absolutely. he was still in power right before he died. he was part of the right wing coalition that won the last elections a few months ago. he's been elected three times prime minister, 1994. during that time he was also king maker of many other prime ministers and he was at the top of the game right before he died on monday, chris. >> claudio lavanga, always good to see you my friend, thank you for that. that's going to do it for us this hour. joining us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy turr reports" right now. donald trump has pleaded not guilty. the only court case is on the