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muse mauz ♪♪ hello, and thank you so much for joining us i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. this morning divided they fall, the republican party grappling with whether to go all in on trump or break away after his historic indictment. we'll have a live report from capitol hill and break down the new reporting about his legal troubles. plus, extreme weather battering the south. we're talking 5 inch diameter hail, and rare june tornados in the southeast leaving thousands without electricity, while houston's implementing an emergency plan to help residents deal with triple digit temperatures. >> we're looking at approximately ten days of over 100 degrees, and you know, with record breaking days as well. and later, an indictment for
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danny wenny. the this-year-old marine veteran is facing a second degree manslaughter charge for putting jordan neely in a deadly chokehold last month. and we're keeping a close eye on the supreme court with a handful of working days left, decisions on multiple seismic issues could come any moment this morning. we're on it. but let's begin with the growing rift among republicans over the man that's molded the party in his image. the 37-count indictment against former president donald trump for which he's pleaded not guilty is causing a handful on the right to denounce trump while most are either staying on the sidelines or doubing down on their support. let's discuss this and more with nbc news senior political reporter sahil kapur, jen psaki, host of "inside with jen psaki" right here on msnbc, and former florida congressman carlos curbelo, now an msnbc political analyst. let's start with sahil. this is your great reporting. walk us through the
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consternation within the republican party, sahil. >> reporter: hey, ana, these are uncharted waters for republicans. their leading presidential candidate is under federal indictment facing criminal charges and we asked many republicans on capitol hill the question, will you support president trump in the 2024 general election, if he's the nominee. and he ends up a convicted felon by then. we got a wide variety of answers. some of them say, no, they would not be comfortable supporting him, while many republicans are keeping the door wide open to continue to support him. let's show some of these. there's congressman tim burr check who's one of the most conservative republicans, told us no, honestly on the surface, i wouldn't. it doesn't look good he goes on to say but let's see what the conviction says, let's see if he is convicted. there's congressman mike rogers, the chair of the house armed services committee. he deals with classified information. he says, quote, we'll let the courts play out, and i'll figure out what to do after that. i'm not getting involved in
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this. keeping his powder dry, one of the many republicans who say let's wait and see, not ready to make a decision yet. there are others like congressman byron donald of florida, he has endorsed him for president. he's going to look for himself, and he has to believe that the conviction is justified and legitimate and he does not believe the current charges against former president trump are justified and legitimate. it all depends on what happens, i'm not committed to that because i've seen in other instances where courts do something and they are wrong. the broader context of this is that the early polling shows that the indictment has not dented trump's support, his strong support within the republican party, within the primary base, a quinnipiac poll found that he has 53% nationally of likely republican voters. that's 20 points or rather 30 points ahead of his nearest rival governor ron desantis. one house republican did tell us that it would be a major, major
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problem for many colleagues if trump is ultimately convicted. many of them are not ready to grapple with that. >> jen, the trump campaign said he raked in just over $6.5 million after the federal indictment, which we should note is significantly less than the 12 million he saw after the manhattan d.a. indictment. you write on msnbc.com, lest anyone has forgotten, trump is a former and arguably current reality television creator and star, and he values an aggressive public relations strategy. i wonder is that aggressive strategy hurting him? >> well, i think it's too early to know, ana. i think there's a difference between the primary as sahil just said and also the general election, and we've also seen in polling that there are a number of independent voters who do have concerns about the indictment over the handling of classified documents. that doesn't sit well with them, and that's a problem for him in a general election. but i will say in addition to the money, what is interesting and a good sign, i would say, is
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that even though he has called for his supporters, called for people to come protest, even violently, they did not show up outside of the florida courthouse. we saw something similar in new york. that is an indication of kind of some issues with his political power as is the fact that there are some republican candidates from pence to haley, to some degree, to tim scott who are kind of being critical for the fest time of trump in a little bit more of an aggressive way. >> congressman, there's already pardon talk among the 2024 contenders, take a listen to this. >> i'm happy to announce this is my commitment on january 20th, 2025, if i'm elected the next u.s. president to pardon donald j. trump. >> i would be inclined in favor of a pardon. >> it's simply wrong to be discussing a pardon when we really have not gotten the facts
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out. >> these are serious charges, and as i said, i can't defend what's been alleged, but the president does deserve to make his defense. >> so clearly not everyone's on the same page. what do you make of all of this? >> well, and i think that those candidates that are trying to kiss up to trump, that are trying to prove to trump's base that they are also loyal to him are really running into a dead end. i mean, how do you defeat donald trump by following him, by praising him? i think if anyone really wants to stand out and have a shot at winning this nomination, they're going to have to in a smart way go to trump's base and say these are the problems with donald trump. he's been dishonest, he's misled the country. he has probably committed crimes, which is why he's in this position. of course he's going to have his day in court, and you know, a jury will ultimately decide whether or not he was engaged in criminal activity, but how do
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you defeat donald trump by following him, by imitating him, by just trying to kiss up to him every single day. that really does seem to be a dead end. so i'm looking more at these candidates that are at least looking for a way to get out of this trump trap and to tell the voters the truth. >> so jen, it does seem like republicans are really just grappling with what the best political strategy is as well as what is the right thing to do, and i think part of it comes down to what the voters want, right, and according to that quinnipiac poll sahil mentioned, trump still maintains a huge lead over the republican field, even after the second indictment. are you surprised at all by that? >> not really, ana, i mean, the thing is though that polls are about a moment in time, and clearly some of these republican candidates either smell blood in the water or they're making a political calculation that they have to do something different and draw a contrast.
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otherwise why would anyone support them over trump so you see that with chris christie more aggressively, a bit with asa hutchinson, a tiny bit with pence. so it may be their efforts to kind of shake up the race, but trump is still the leader of the republican party, despite the indictments, despite questions about his handling legitimate, significant questions about his handling of national security documents, and many other issues, and it doesn't seem like that has changed yet. again, this could change over time. there are potentially additional indictments coming in addition to this. we'll see how these all impact his standing. >> i want to bring in former federal prosecutor shan wu into the conversation. there are some legal developments to discuss as well, shan. "the washington post" is reporting that maybe it didn't have to come to this. according to the post after the fbi conducted its search, found those additional classified documents -- and this was also before a special counsel was appointed -- one of trump's lawyers, chris kise, reportedly wanted to approach the doj to
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see if he could negotiate some kind of settlement. back in the fall of last year. but trump rejected this idea. so my question is if trump had gone along with that idea, do you think trump could have avoided an indictment, and is it too late now? >> take that in two parts. i think it's too late now, and i think he probably could have avoided that. i don't think that the doj had any appetite for wanting to have to pursue this as a criminal prosecution. i think that's evidenced by the rather torturously long drawn out back and forth they had before they decided as a last resort to seek that search warrant. that reporting resonates very truthfully, any good white collar defense counsel would have tried to simply say, look, this is an accident. it's an oversight, let us return these documents. it really illustrates how trump is in a situation very much of his own making by refusing to cooperate and from the evidence alleged in the indictment,
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actively obstructing that process. >> and shan, let's talk about the judge, aileen cannon. "the new york times" reports that cannon has very limited experience with criminal trials. the times review identified only four of her cases that went to trial and those cases only added up to 14 days and those trials we're told involved pretty like routine types of crimes, things like illegally possessing a gun. jack smith's team is saying that this trump trial might last 21 days. is her limited trial experience an issue given the complexities of this particular case? >> i think it is an issue -- i think, one, that article also raises the fact that she has not handled cases involving the national security documents and classified information, which clearly that's exactly what this case is about. and decisions about what is used in court, who has access to them, that's something that is
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certainly of concern of people in the intelligence community. so that's another factor. the article also noted that she gets a little uptight or has a strong reaction sometimes when she's questioned or challenged. and this is a very complicated case, maybe the most important highest profile political case in history or maybe just in a very long time, so all of those factors have certainly raised some concern from legal experts out there, and i expect people will continue to dig into that as we watch this. >> shan wu, you're one of those legal experts, what are your thoughts? >> i'm less concerned with her inexperience, which is certainly a factor, but that wouldn't lead me to question whether she would be impartial. what leads me to question her impartiality is her prior rulings in that special master case, and that's a concern. i think the department could seek to remove her for lack of impartiality, but i think it also shows us where her head really is in terms of legal
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rulings. any judge has to start someplace. you're being to be inexperienced at some point. but the courtroom demeanor was just being described as she's overly sensitive to criticism, and the fact that she seems to have a deaf ear for actual legal analysis. she was pretty resoundingly smacked down by the court of appeals for those really poor rulings she made in that special masters case, motivation aside. >> a really quick follow. i mean, is it at this point safe to say she's not planning to recuse herself at least voluntarily because she hasn't so far, or could that still happen between now and the first court appearance in which he's going to go before the trial judge? >> it could still happen. we wouldn't know what her internal thinking is at this point, and i don't think the department or jack smith has indicated they're going to seek to ask her to step down. it's a loaded decision for them to do that because obviously it opens them up to being accused
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of judge shopping, so there may be a reluctance to doing that. >> congressman curbelo i owe you the first question next go around. thank you so much for the conversation. i appreciate all of you. and you can catch jen's show "inside with jen psaki" sundays at noon right here on msnbc. and the pool of republican hopefuls for the presidential nomination is continuing to grow this morning. miami mayor frances suarez made it official today that he's throwing his hat into the ring. suarez has served as mayor of miami since 2017 and is the president of the bipartisan u.s. conference of mayors. he's also the first hispanic candidate to enter this cycle. this morning suarez said he is the best candidate in the race because he is a unifier pointing to how he won his last mayoral race with nearly 80% of the vote. ahead, what ukraine's president zelenskyy is telling our own richard engel in an exclusive sit-down about their
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trees and power lines leaving more than 100,000 without power overnight. meantime, in texas punishing triple digit temperatures have officials there opening multiple cooling centers to help locals beat the heat and keep them safe. with us now, nbc news correspondent kathy park is joining us in warrior, alabama. that's near birmingham, and nbc news meteorologist michelle grossman is standing by for us. first, kathy, to you. how bad is the damage where you are? >> reporter: well, ana, as you just mentioned, that severe weather rolled through the south during the afternoon hours as well as through the overnight hours, and this is kind of what we're waking up to this morning. a big cleanup ahead for thousands of residents here in alabama, this massive oak tree actually split in half we're told at the height of the storm yesterday afternoon, fortunately, though, even though that the limbs are danging very close to the power lines, power was not knocked down in this community, no damage to property as well. but a lot of residents say they are still very much on high
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alert with what could spark up later on today. but an hour and a half southwest of us in utah, alabama, some damaging storms that we were tracking yesterday actually destroyed a home, trapped people inside, injured one person as well, two people were able to make it out okay, but, ana, i have to say i was driving from northeast tennessee to here and the downpours were so intense, the visibility was reduced completely and it led to a lot of backups on the roadways. but as you mentioned from texas all the way to florida, the big headline there is the heat. a lot of folks are under heat alerts today. in fact, at last check, houston, parts of houston could see a heat index of close to 111 degrees. there is certainly a lot of growing concern this could strain the power grid in texas. >> a lot to talk about then with michelle grossman who's standing by for us with where we're at and what's next. how much more of this severe
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weather and heat can we expect? >> we're going to see another at least two days of the severe weather. we're already seeing the severe weather early this morning. typically it takes the daytime heating to get the storms going. we're already seeing storms happening right now. it's a very slow-moving front nearly parked over the southeast into portions of the plains. very electric. you can see all the lightning strikes, where you see these boxes, these are alerts. the pink boxes are tornado watches. the one to the right was just added about 30 seconds ago. we have severe thunderstorm watching that we're watching. i've been watching this all morning long. i've been watching radar since 1:00 a.m., and we've been seeing these storms over and over in the same place. kathy mentioned those downpours, and we are concerned for flash flooding because we're seeing these slow moving storms and rounds of them over the same area. so this is the situation, 19 million people at risk. we could see winds gusting up to 80 miles per hour, very large hail once again. i mean, can you imagine a 5 inch ball of ice falling from the sky? that's what we're concerned about today. really large hail once again
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causing damage on its own. the winds gusting could bring more trees down, more power lines down, bringing more power outages and it's really hot in these areas, so we need the air-conditioning. a few tornados are likely. again, we're seeing tornado warnings already. we had one that just expired about two minutes ago in portions of the southeast. but where you see the red on this map, that's a moderate risk. that's the likeliest spot for seeing the strongest storms. so oklahoma city, you are involved in that. but anywhere from kansas to oklahoma, texas, along the gulf coast in the southeast could see any of these strong storms. a flood watch has been posted too. we have a flash flood warning. that means flooding is imminent or is happening right now. and that's in portions of mississippi. but this alert extends all the way to parts of georgia as well. that's a big concern. we're going to be watching that as we go throughout the day. the reason why we are expecting up to 5, over 5 inches of rain in some spot, where you notice these darker colors of red, the oranges, the yellows that's
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where we're expecting the highest amount of rain. we're expecting heat in the triple digits into parts of texas and louisiana. it's going to feel like 120 in some spots. >> thank you so much. up next here on "ana cabrera reports" indicted, a new york grand jury has voted to charge 24-year-old daniel penny with second degree manslaughter for choking a homeless man to death on the subway. the legal road ahead next. ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists.
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a new york grand jury has voted to indict a marine veteran for choking a homeless man to death on the subway last month. now two sources familiar with the matter tell nbc news 24-year-old daniel penny was indicted on second degree manslaughter charges for the death of jordan neely. penny was arrested two weeks after neely's death after this incident sparked big protests. in new videos released by his lawyers over the weekend, penny tells his side of the story. >> i was scared for myself, but i looked around and i saw women and children. he was yelling in their faces saying -- saying these threats. i couldn't just sit still. >> neely's family says there is no excuse for what he did. let's bring in nbc news correspondent rehema ellis and civil rights attorney and former federal prosecutor charles coleman. so okay, this happened on may 1st. we saw an arrest on may 12th,
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now this indictment more than a month later. walk us through what we know. >> what we know is daniel penny was out on bond. he was able to post bond on that. we are hearing from his side, his side of the store are. you laid it out so well. in this videotape his attorneys released over the weekend, he said he was only trying to restrain jordan neely, not to kill him. take a listen. >> some people say that i was holding onto mr. neely for 15 minutes. this is not true. some people say i was trying to choke him to death, which is also not true. i was trying to restrain him. and then some people say this was about race, which is absolutely ridiculous. i didn't see a black man threatening passengers. i saw a man threatening passengers. >> but the family of jordan neely does not see it that way. in fact, they released a statement overnight, and we're hearing from them saying that they are pleased that the grand jury has issued this charge against him, and in fact, saying daniel penny did not have the
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right to be judge, jury, and executioner. they are looking forward to this case going forward. daniel penny's attorney says he will mount a vigorous defense. his next court appearance we understand is going to be on july 17th. we are still waiting to hear more about this from the district attorney's office. they haven't spoken yet. >> charles, your thought on this charge, second degree manslaughter. >> i think that's an important distinction that the audience and everyone else needs to understand. the difference between second degree manslaughter and murder, for example, first degree manslaughter is intent, and what the intent that's required to sustain a conviction, and that intent in the second degree manslaughter charge is reckless, basically saying that the defendant acted in a manner that was reckless and that action resulted in the loss of human life. the significance there is that as daniel penny is continuing to argue i did not mean to do this, i was only trying to restrain, the question for the jury is going to be was your -- was the action that you took in the
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moment, the way that you behaved, the way that you sort of continue to hold mr. neely down, was that reckless, and so i think that that's a very, very key and important thing that the grand jury put out, and i understand that's why the district attorney and alvin bragg went forward with the second degree as well as a higher charge. >> what do you make of this strategy to put out these videos, the lawyers of penny here, that you know, so often we hear defendants being counseled not to speak out because anything you say could be used against you. so was this a good decision if you're his defense attorney? >> you know, ana, i'm always against defendants speaking out outside of court. i think that it usually does come back to bite you, but it is something to be said around controlling the narrative in the court of public opinion. this is something that they are clearly trying to do as a means of getting a different narrative out and spinning it in a direction that honestly tries to paint mr. penny as this unlikely hero protecting other people and
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getting the public to think about other things as opposed to everyone focusing on the victim, i.e., mr. neely. this is their shot of doing that. i do not think this is the right way to do it. and i don't necessarily know that it's going to be a positive thing for mr. penny long-term, but he said it was approved by his attorneys and we'll have to see what happens. >> and charles, how important is video evidence, surveillance videos, witness videos when it comes to this case? >> in a case like this, it's extremely important, depending on how many eyewitnesses are going to come forward. we know that in eyewitness accounts of identification, which is not at issue here, those things are very unreliable. from the perspective of other people, other strap hangers who were on the subway, who were watching everything go down, that's going to be in a very important conversation in the absence of ocular evidence. now that we have this ocular evidence, the public is going to weigh in, and they're going to be able to see what the jury is seeing realtime and understand
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exactly what everyone else was watching and witnessing that day, but i do think, ana, if there are additional eyewitnesses who were on the scene who have different angles or different perspectives beyond what the video shows, that's going to be critical for the prosecution being able to prove its case. >> all right, charles coleman and rehema ellis, thank you so much. closing arguments have started in the trial of a gunman who killed 11 people and wounded six others in the tree of life synagogue in 2018. the shooter's lawyers did not put on a defense after the prosecution's case. he faces 63 criminal counts including hate crimes resulting in death. some of those charges carry a death penalty sentence. up next on "ana cabrera reports," while the fed isn't raising interest rate right now, that doesn't mean they won't again. what it means for your money. plus, taking out those junk fees, how the biden administration is looking to fight those pesky hidden charges at checkout for everything from
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we're back with another sign of relief for americans' wallets this morning, the federal reserve has decided to forego another interest rate hike and keep the rates at 5% right now. the first time the central bank is keeping things stagnant in
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more than a year. now, this decision comes just after that new data showed inflation had cooled to its lowest levels in two years. let's bring in cnbc's dominic chu. the fed didn't raise rates but didn't rule out more rate hikes to come. my question is when could they actually start cutting rates? >> well, ana, it's not going to be anytime soon. that's the message coming from federal reserve chairman jerome powell. it's probably the reason why the fed chief spoke deliberately about why the fed chose to pause or skip this rate hike at this meeting and hint at the possibility, as you point out, of more rate hikes later on this year. so he and central bank policymakers are trying to make sure that the markets, investors, lawmakers, everyday americans realize that inflation still remains a problem in this country and that the fed will not stop raising rates until unwanted price increases in the overall economy start to show some signs of really retreating as you point out. now, this pause or skip in raising rates breaks a string of
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ten straight meetings where those rates have been increased in order to combat the biggest inflationary threat in four decades. so this pause/skip is meant to allow time for the economic data to show the effects of the fed's already raising rates by five full percentage points just since last march. those effects take time to flow through to the economy. as you point out, we're already seeing signs of prices for fuel and certain food products are coming down. but ana, the fed remains data dependent regarding future decisions. during powell's press conference, he did say that as things stand, rate cuts are probably at least a couple of years away and won't happen until inflation comes down significantly. >> we were showing the markets up a couple hundred points this morning, i guess that's good news if you have money in retirement in the stock market. this morning also another economic indicator, retail sales increased by 0.3% in may. what does that tell you? >> so it tells us, ana, that the
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american consumer remains very resilient. that's one of the good things to come out of that number. the more than two-thirds of the u.s. economy that's based on consumer spending is still holding up well. now, this is big because an estimated one-third of that two-thirds in consumer spending and gdp is coming straight up from retail sales. that 3/10 of a percent gain in sales for the month came in much better than the 2/10 of a present decline that economists were forecasting for. consumers have become increasingly more discerning about their wallets. they're spending for sure on things like services like travel, like restaurants and going out. they're not as much spending on things like buying goods and stuff. as for now what's driving some of that spend, it is cars, car parts, bars and restaurants and travel as i point out. those are seeing some more spending. gasoline prices, though, notably lower. so what it does show, ana, is that the overall economy still remains in relatively good shape. what it also means is that the
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fed may be right in keeping interest rate hikes on the table, ana. >> double-edged sword there, dominic chu, appreciate your time. thank you for explaining all of that, and something we're all unfortunately becoming more and more familiar with. you think you're getting a great deal only to get piled on with those extra fees at checkout when you're purchasing something online on everything from concert tickets to hotel reservations. get this, americans are collectively spending nearly $65 billion annually on those sneaky so-called junk fees, according to the white house. but the biden administration says it has a new plan to cut some of those costs. cnbc's kaylee hartung has more. >> hey there, you can already see some of the changes when you try to purchase a concert ticket or hotel room on some prices, the base price and fees are all in one place before you head to checkout. later today president biden is expected to hold a round table with private companies now agreeing to post the full price
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of everything hoping to save consumers from that last minute sticker shock. >> many americans are sick and tired of so-called junk fees, those hidden extras that are often tacked onto everything from hotels and air fares to concert and sports tickets. >> my ticket cost me $647 plus $200 in fees. >> reporter: these extra expenses leaving fans of big stars like taylor swift in a haze this summer. some turning to social media to vent about the steep fees to see their favorite artists live. >> two regular tickets for a drake concert cost over a thousand dollars. oh, wait, no, they don't. it's just the service fees. >> reporter: one government study suggests primary and resale sites on average add 27% and 31% on top of the ticket's price respectively. this morning president biden amplifying his call for transparency, meeting with representatives from several companies including live nation entertainment, seat geek and
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airbnb, all of which the white house says have committed to end surprise fees by fully disclosing fees to consumers upfront. something he first tackled in his state of the union. >> we're tired of being played for suckers. >> reporter: the excess charges, one point of focus of a hearing on capitol hill in january as senators pressed ticketmaster's parent company livenation about them. >> recent study found that for some tickets it's as high as 75% of face value. >> reporter: and it's not just for shows. the white house says it's working to address junk fees in every sector of the economy hoping to save americans from shelling out nearly 65 billion extra dollars. the biden administration says it's working with federal agencies to lower bank overdraft charges and a proposal to cut credit card late fees by 75%. the new rules would also require airlines to show the price for all extras like checking a bag and even in-flight wi-fi. >> we're really trying to ensure
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it's an honest marketplace where consumers know how much they're going to pay for a good or service and companies can compete on that basis. and we reached out to the companies mentioned in the white house's announcement. seat geek called president biden's announcement an encouraging step forward. and stub hub says it's working closely with congress to pass legislation that applies a uniform standard across the industry. and live nation said it will launch an all in pricing starting in september. >> i like what i hear, kaylee hartung, thanks so much. and now to breaking news from the supreme court, in major decision for the native american community. i want to bring in nbc news correspondent julia ainsley outside the supreme court. walk us through this ruling, julia. >> reporter: this is one we haven't been watching as closely, but it's incredibly interesting. at the heart of this case is the question of an adoption of a native american child. there was a couple in texas, a foster family who wanted to adopt the child, but that would have been in violation of a 1978 welfare act that would keep
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children, native american children within their tribes. it's trying to make up for history of children being taken out of their tribes. and the tribes argued, five tribes in that case argued that if that child left they would be completely undermining that law. the supreme court sided with the tribes, upheld the welfare act and said the child should be adopted by the tribes. usually a child would go to the best fit family. that's what seven of the justices said in the majority opinion. we still are watching for more opinions as this session officially draws to a close, and we are still waiting on 20 opinions. we'll be back out here tomorrow waiting for more, especially paying attention to whether or not they make a decision on affirmative action or student loans. >> and there's also an lgbtq discrimination case we're awaiting, also a potential case involving elections and state legislature power, so you will
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be busy in the next couple of weeks, really the term ends at the end of next week, so lots to anticipate. julia ainsley, thank you for that update. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," ukraine's president is speaking exclusively to nbc news. what he's saying about their counteroffensive on the battlefield and donald trump. h'. so she switched to verizon. and now, she has myplan. the first unlimited plan that lets her choose exactly what goes in it. now, she gets to pick only the perks she wants, and saves on every one. and with an incredible new iphone on us, no wonder sadie is celebrating. introducing myplan get exactly what you want. only pay for what you need. act now and get iphone 14 pro max on us when you switch. it's your verizon. sometimes, the lows of bipolar depression feel darkest before dawn. with caplyta, there's a chance to let the light shine through. and light tomorrow, with the hope from today.
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>> translator: i cannot give you all the details. the defensive and offensive actions. things look not bad. i would say it's generally positive, but it's difficult. our heroic people, our troops who are now at the front of the front line are facing very tough resistance, and you understand why. because for russia to lose this campaign to ukraine, i would say actually means losing the war. >> and richard engel is joining us now. it's hard to believe we are approaching almost 500 days since this invasion began. what else did you hear in this conversation from zelenskyy? what stands out to you? >> reporter: so, this war has been going on for nearly 500 days, but for ukraine, this is a very new phase. wars are often compared to
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boxing matches, and what we have now is a new round, and ukraine has done very well on the defensive trying to pretend, to protect kyiv and push back russian forces. but now it's going on the offensive. it's trying to push russian troops against the ropes and ultimately knock them out of the ring, and that is a much more difficult prospect. i expected president zelenskyy to be more upbeat asking him how this offensive going, and he was quite sober. he was saying how difficult it is, how the russians have had time to prepare, they're dug in. they believe that there is a lot riding on it as you just heard in that clip. he said that if the russians lose this counteroffensive, they believe they could lose war. so this is a critical moment. it is a different moment. he also talked about f-16s. there is a meeting today in brussels try to sort out a
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system in which that they get the f-16s as promised. but it is still vague on when they will arrive, who is going to deliver them, who will be training the pilot, how long that will take. and he expressed a lot of sfrus trags saying that, yes, there is a political decision to give f-16s to ukraine, but the dedetails have not been worked out and the international community, while he appreciates their hope, are not realizing that ukraine is not fighting a war tomorrow but it is already under way and they need the weapons right now. and he also talked about zaporizhzhia power plant, currently russian occupied power plant. and he warned that he believes that that nuclear power plant is going to be russia's next target
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and that is something that ukrainians, the region and all the war should be concerned about. >> you've covered a lot of ground it sounds like and i look forward as you share more of that interview throughout the day to listening in what he has it say. richard engel, thank you so much. up next here, a possible medical breakthrough bringing new hope. can a vaccine fight the most deadly form of brain cancer. and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. although uncommon, up to 1 in 5 survivors of meningitis will have long term consequences. now as you're thinking about all the vaccines your teen might need make sure you ask your doctor if your teen is missing meningitis b vaccination.
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we turn now to a potential breakthrough against the deadliest form of brain cancer. early results from an experimental vaccine for glioblastoma shows the potential to delay recurrence and double life expect anxiety. anne thompson is following this breakthrough for us. my brother is a pediatric brain cancer survivor, so this one hits close to home.
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>> oh, my gosh. >> what are you finding? >> so you will appreciate why this is so important. this is a vaccine that they are testing and it is still in the clinical trial stage. but what they are finding is that it prevents one of the most deadly cancer, glee owe blast toe made, from coming back and that gives patients precious time.blast toe made, from coming back and that gives patients precious time. sbl what you see is just the tip of the iceberg. >> reporter: glioblastoma has a median survival rate of 14.6 months. and grim news that this doctor has delivered for a quarter of a century. >> the problem is that that it will eventually come back. >> reporter: and microscopic cells that remain even after surgery, chemotherapy and raid jags. and early results from an experimental cancer vaccine show the potential to delay
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recurrence and double life expectancy. >> 14 to 16 months and now are you giving them 28 months, maybe 30 months. what is it like to give someone that extra time? >> this is a very exciting thing for me. >> reporter: the vaccine still in trials is called surzax m. and the creator -- >> it has been a simple product but the science behind it is complex. >> reporter: the vaccine given in the arm just like a flu shot targets the protein survivin that keeps cancer cells alive. you kill that, you kill cancer. >> we think that it has great promise. >> reporter: and there are now early studies looking at sur vax m for multiple myeloma and
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children's brain tumors. >> just felt that there can't be a down side doing it. what is the worst that could happen? >> reporter: john still doing jobs around the house. something his daughter lydia couldn't imagine when his brain cancer came back two years ago. >> being a nurse, i was terrified. >> reporter: and today he is still working and living getting boosters every two months. how do you feel? >> i feel normal. >> reporter: for this family, normal never felt so good. anne thompson, nbc news, buffalo. now, that extra time for many families could be a graduation, a wedding, perhaps a new grandchild. for john and lydia, it is a graduation. she is studying to get her masters degree in nursing and she hopes her father will be there when she gets that degree. >> i loan so too.
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what a wonderful story. so much hope in that. thank you. before we go, who among us hasn't lost an nba finals mvp award? that is exactly what happened with nikola jokic after winning an nba championship in the final that clinching game five win against the miami heat. he apparently lost track of the most important keep sake that marked his legendary season. luckily the equipment manager found the trophy for him. of course i'm a denver girl so i have to give a huge congratulations to my hometown team. i'm there in spirit, guys. that will do it for us. thanks so much for joining us. we'll see you back here tomorrow. until then, i'm anna cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz about a hard picks up

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