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what a wonderful story. so much hope in that. thank you. before we go, who among us hasn't lost an nba finals mvp award? that is exactly what happened with nikola jokic after winning an nba championship in the final that clinching game five win against the miami heat. he apparently lost track of the most important keep sake that marked his legendary season. luckily the equipment manager found the trophy for him. of course i'm a denver girl so i have to give a huge congratulations to my hometown team. i'm there in spirit, guys. that will do it for us. thanks so much for joining us. we'll see you back here tomorrow. until then, i'm anna cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz about a hard picks up
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the coverage. and i'm jose diaz-balart. and today new fallout in the light of donald trump's historic indictment. we'll dive into new details about his ladies and gentlemen legal strategy and how it is shaping the race for the white house. and another florida republican launches his presidential bid. and also new this morning, richard engel's exclusive interview with volodymyr zelenskyy. and in new york a grand jury indicts does an yell penny, the man putting neely in a chokehold. we'll have the latest. and today is the 11th anniversary of deferred action for childhood arrivals known as dhaka. daca. a allows hundreds of thousands to live here without fear of
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deportation. we'll speak to a recipient about her hopes for the future.live h deportation. we'll speak to a recipient about her hopes for the future. from the u.s. supreme court court, last hour the justices rejected a challenge to a federal law aimed at protecting native american children in the adoption process saying it does not discriminate on the basis of race. julia ainsley is joining us. what does this tell us today? >> reporter: we heard from justice brown jackson that says congress has upheld it is important to retain children to retain their identity. this is making up for a history in this country of children being forcibly adopted away from their tribes. and they are upholding the welfare act, the child welfare act that allows native american children to stay within their tribe when it comes to adoption
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matters. usually you would go to which ever family could provide the best life for a child. but in this case which dealt with a native american child up for adoption and a family in texas wanting to adopt that child, the court said no, the presence should stay within the tribe. just two does his sensing here. dissentsing here. and the tribes are arguing that they are not racial entities. >> and also justices ruled on where a child can be held? >> yeah, it is interesting especially given the context of how we saw jack smith move his team down to florida. and the supreme court said that it is okay to have a retrial if a jury comes up with a verdict and it is determined that that jury -- that grand jury is
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operating in the wrong venue, that they were drawn from the wrong district. so perhaps defense could make an argument after a verdict that they should have a retrial in a different venue and prosecutors would be able to brir the skas again in a different venue. >> julia ainsley, thank you so much. and now we continue with the other top story about donald trump's historic indictment. we're learning new details about how one of his lawyers tried to avoid charges in the first place. according to the "washington post," the attorney christopher kise wanted to quietly approach justices to see if he could negotiate a settlement that would preclude charges. but trump was not interested. and merrick garland spoke publicly on the case for the first time to defend special counsel behind the skas.
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let's discuss this more. let's go to our panel. and josh, you were a part of the team that reported about the trump lawyer trying to bypass this legal showdown. what was that like? >> the point of the story is that there were a number of efforts throughout 2021 and 2022 by former president trump's advisers and lawyers to find an exit ramp without criminal charges, basically avoid what happened on tuesday. and one of those efforts was christopher kise, well respected in florida legal circles, he approached the president and his legal team when he came on to the case last fall, right after the former president's house was
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raided in mar-a-lago for the classified documents. and he suggested that he would try to negotiate a settlement with the department justice. and that he would have quiet conversations with merrick xwar land's team. and donald trump was not interested. he said those discussions didn't need to happen. and that is just one of many times that lawyers tried to get him to give documents back, try to end it without criminal charge, tried to find more peaceable solution all around. but it wasn't going to happen. >> joyce, what is your reaction to this reporting? >> so it makes a lot of sense that chris kise who was florida's solicitor general and accomplished appellate lawyer would want to do this because doj treats like cases alike. and there is strong precedent in prior cases and in 3w09 those
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cases, they pled to a misdemeanor that didn't include jail time. it might seem weak, but it prevents public disclosure during cases. and so the notion that they could get a similar deal for trump i think would have been dead on the money at least in that point of time and the former may regret that he did not go ahead with that sort of a deal. and it may be off the table at that point. >> yeah, i mean, is it entirely too late to get any kind of deal? charges have been presented. >> it is never too late to negotiate a guilty plea. do the terms change?
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perhaps they do as more conduct comes to light. and what works against the former president here is the ongoing obstruction. and that along with the nature and quantity of classified material he held on to claiming that they were his boxes and nobody could even look through them in the face of all of the admissions, there is a continuous ongoing confession process happening in front of the public by donald trump. and in lights of all that conduct, there may be a point as which the deal doesn't look as favorable as deals others bought. >> and so how is it playing out on republicans on capitol hill? >> reporter: i think the reaction we've seen from the halls of congress continues to underscore that the former president has a pretty firm grasp of the rank and file of his own party. at various times the last few weeks since the news of this indictment broke, it has felt almost like the senate is living in a different reality than
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house republicans are. by and large house republicans rallied saying that they would seek more information on the counsel's problem. people like jim jor does an asking for more information about the skoecht investigation. and now there is a playbook here for republicans to help play defense and use their majority to the former president's advantage. but on the senate side, more silence and even more condemnations. mitt romney said is this something that trump is experiencing now but could have been avoided if he just gave these documents back. i do think that the striking thing though is watching what is happening in congress versus on the 2024 campaign trail, to the extent that trump has sustained any criticism from his fellow republicans in either of those forums, it has been think look the lines of saying that this is part of an example of a two
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tiered system of justice. but when they engage with the keeping of class filed documents that the former president shouldn't have had, then people say that he was reckless.filed that the former president shouldn't have had, then people say that he was reckless. and those things endanger national security bradley. but here in congress, most try to turn the table and say what about joe biden, december fight the fact that those circumstances are different. >> david, miami mayor suarez is entering the presidential race. here is what he said about trump's indictment. >> i don't know all the details about how you handled classified information. i do know that former -- >> you read the indictment, didn't you? >> of course, but what -- >> what does it say to you? just trying to get a simple answer. i let you say why you're running for president. answer that question. >> look, it is not what i would
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have done. i would have turned over the documents. but if i'm former president trump, i wouldn't have stored documents in my garage either. >> what kind of impact could some have on the gop race? >> well, i think miami mayor suarez knows that he is a long shot for the presidency, but perhaps he kaets a new national profile with what he considers a new or refreshing vision for the republican party. he opposed donald trump, but ultimately you see him quickly evolve into say i'm still a in-made stream republican, i want to talk about lower crime in miami, an economy that is growing, a new vision for all americans. but he has to wrestle with the same beast that every republican candidate does. donald trump has his iron grip on the party. the indictment hasn't hurt him and everybody is wondering if
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something can derail him. the conversation is an intriguing one about a timing is now everything. the trial calendar is now everything for the republican primary. donald trump needs this out of the way now or he needs to be able to delay it and land it just after the early primary states so this is not the distraction it needs to be. but they are wrestling with acknowledging the clear grievances that donald trump committed but they don't want to assign culpability to the leader of their current primary. >> and trump's support from republicans is still rock solid. a new poll shows that he is 30 points ahead of desantis. and this is despite them wanting him to focus on his vision for the country. does this have an impact going forward that the trump
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indictment will have on the xwop voters? >> you're right so far it seems to have only people brought closer to him. there is also still the georgia investigation about. so you have a situation where there could be more indictments coming. but so far we've not seen that hurt the former president with republican voters. what is interesting as to how these all relate to each other. what you will have is multiple hearings, these things -- discoveries, all sorts things that take so long and they will be playing out amid the early primary states.
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he's here, he's in miami, he's there, handling all these things. will voters care? so far republican voters still seem to be supporting him. but we'll see how it plays out. we'll see what else we learn. >> and joyce, trump campaign says it raised $6.6 million since the indictment. so i'm wondering, legally he is facing a whole lot of things. is this something that could have an e78 pact on it? seems like he gets indicted and picks up $6.6 million and up 0 points. 30 points. >> yeah, trump has evolved fund
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rauzing in a way no one would have anticipated a decade ago. he faces more investigations and recently a jurmt against him in a civil suit over a sexual assault case. and is boggles the mind and force you to look behind his popularity and asks questions about what does he bring to americans that is so worthwhile in their minds. they are willing to walk away from the principles and those are questions that the country will have to conconfront. >> david, how do you see the
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questions? >> yeah, this is a hard reality. we sometimes overlook the republicans hold about yb. the joe biden crime family, they use the word treason, the word corrupt. they truly believe that joe biden has engaged in traitorist activities. so they are happy to overlook the sexual assault, idea of classified records, attack on the capitol. the odd thing is they have a slew of other candidates to choose from. it issor your morality bell curve. but donald trump has made this a cultural movement. he has defined trumpism and then parked in today's republican party. and as of yet we have yet to see anything take it down. >> and thank you all very much for being with us thorn.
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now a look at headlines from beyond our borders. at least 78 people have died off the coast of southern greece after a fishing boat carrying my migrants sank. it capsized on wednesday. here you see rescue personnel lifting a survivor from a boat on to a helicopter. more than 100 people have been rescued during search and rescue operations, but hundreds are still feared missing. this morning north korea fired two short range allistic
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missiles into the sea of japan. no reports of damages to vessels or aircraft in the area according to japanese officials. north korea's military spokesperson released a statement condemning a u.s. and south korea joint live fire drill carried out earlier today. vatican announced that pope francis will leave the hospital tomorrow. nine days after undergoing surgery to remove scar tissue and repair a hernia. they say the 86-year-old has been resting well and tests have come back normal. and in pittsburgh, closing arguments are happening in the trial of the man accused of shooting and killing 11 worshippers at the tree of life synagogue in september of 2018. he faces 63 federal counts including hate crimes charges and in the deadliest attack on jewish people in u.s. history.
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he could face the death penalty if so he lease is outside the courthouse for us. what is the latest? >> reporter: the jury is listening to closing arguments.. what is the latest? >> reporter: the jury is listening to closing arguments. in total we're told the prosecution called about 60 witnesses, the defense had no evidence or witnesses to present in this case. the final two witnesses on the prosecution side were andrea and officer madson who was shot in the line of cute. and it was of cute. and it was emotional. and andrea's mother died in the shooting. and at one point she asked to be
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excused as she played the 911 call. and this is how the opening arguments started as you heard the 911 calls. mind you, the defense here as never said that their client here didn't carry out the shooting but they try to explain his character throughout the portion of these 2 1/2 weeks of this portion of the trial. mind you, when and if the jury find that's is guilty, it will move to the sentencing phase which is really what the trial has come down to, whether or not he will get life in prison or whether or on not they will issue the death penalty. as the closing arguments are now taking place, it is a question of how soon the jury will reach that decision and how soon the sentencing phase moves. we understand that it will be fairly soon and that portion of the trial expected to take six weeks or so. so again, this is all just
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unfolding here within the last hour or so. we are following updates from within the courtroom and we'll bring you more as it becomes available. >> george solis, thank you so much. and we're told daniel penny has been indicted, video of the confrontation made national headlines. the case highlighting issues of race, mental health and crime. could head to trial if penny pleads not guilty. rehema ellis is joining us. what are the arguments from both sides? >> well, both sides are saying understandably that their position is the correct position. from the family of jordan neely, they put out a statement which we have a full screen of it which i'll share but, it says daniel penny's indictment is the right result for the wrong he
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committed. the grand jury's decision tells our city and our nation that no one is above the law. this is what they have been saying all along. that without justice, there couldn't be any peace in this matter for the family. but daniel penny's attorney also released a video that he put out over the weekend saying in essence that there was no intent to kill jordanneely but trying to restrain him. take a listen. >> this was a scary situation. and mr. neely came on, he was threatening, i'm 6'2" and he was taller than me. i was scared for myself but i looked around and i saw women and children, he was yelling in their faces saying these threats. i couldn't just sit still. some people say i was trying to choke him to death which is also not true. i was trying to restrain him. >> we are waiting for what we expect will be some statement from the district attorney's office, this indictment currently is unsealed, so there
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could be more to the charges that we have not had an opportunity to see yet but we hope we might hear something david. if daniel penny is convicted, he could face up to 15 years in prison. >> rehema ellis, thank you so much. coming up, richard engel's new interview with the president of ukraine. zelenskyy on ukraine's counteroffensive and a whole lot more. (vo) sadie's done paying for wireless bundles with things she doesn't need. so she switched to verizon. and now, she has myplan. the first unlimited plan that lets her choose exactly what goes in it. now, she gets to pick only the perks she wants, and saves on every one. and with an incredible new iphone on us, no wonder sadie is celebrating. introducing myplan get exactly what you want. only pay for what you need. act now and get iphone 14 pro max on us when you switch. it's your verizon.
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and we have a brand new nbc exclusive. president zelenskyy sat down with nbc news for his first major interview with ukraine launching its highly anticipated counteroffensive against russian forces. here is part of that conversation with richard engel. >> it is very good to see you again. we're now in the early days of this long anticipated counteroffensive. how is it going, what is the goal, how would you describe progress so far? >> translator: i cannot give you all the details. there are both defensive and offensive actions. things look not bad. i would say it is generally positive. but it is difficult. our heroic people, our troops are now on the frontline. they are facing very tough
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resistance. and you understand why. for russia to lose this campaign to ukraine, i'd say it means lose the war. >> richard gel engel is joining us. what else did the president tell you? >> reporter: we spoke at length about the offensive and he described how pivotal it is. he believes that they can win the entire war. so an kag of how much he sees riding on this offensive. but russia has had a lot of time to prepare. we've been talking about this offensive for months. and so were russia troops. and they discussing in, they laid land mines. so this is so far a tough go.
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also the ground is still not as dry as it could be. there was a lot of wet, a lot of rain in the winter and spring. so while certain areas seem dry on the surface, once the heavy track vehicles start digging it up, they are still finding water underneath. so this offensive is under way, but it is a tough fight already in these early days. we talked about the political climate in the united states. how much concern he has watching particularly republican presidential candidates desantis and trump talk about ukraine, expressing concern that the biden administration has written a blank check to ukraine and he said that effectively they should think about the wider context of this conflict, that it is not simply a fight between ukraine and putin's russia, but a potential fight between russia and nato. and that it is better in his
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opinion to stop russian expansion here in ukraine before it escalates into a much wider conflict, potential conflict between russia and nato. so a wide ranging conversation but i think one of the main take takeaways after military success, how tough it is proving to punch through the russian frontlines. >> richard engel, thank you for being with us this morning. coming up the daca program turns 11 today. we'll talk to current daca reyip sent about how the plan has changed her life and so many others. and the two lawmakers expelledoff their protests are trying to keep their seats in a special primary election today. we'll have the details next. y ey we'll have the details next. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools,
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in tennessee justin jones and justin pearson are vying to keep their seats. lawmakers captured national attention in march after the tennessee house voted to excel them for leading a gun violence protest in the capitol. and gloria johnson was not voted out. they were later reinstated by local governments. antonia hilton is joining us. how do the cases look? >> the big question is whether they can bring some of the momentum that has been behind those two democrats coming out of the historic protests that you just mentioned and see if it can translate into they willing the support in nashville and memphis that they will need to win their primaries and ultimately win the elections coming in all.
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this story has captured national attention. oftentimes they don't get the attention, but they have changed the game. this propelled them into the national spotlight. they met with vice president harris and democratic party there has raised an immense amount of money. and so they are really riding that and continuing to push for gun reform. the other piece of that their appeal, that they are young people of color. some of the youngest voices on the house floor. so their message to voters is to get back in there permanently so they can do their jobs. they have been back on an interim basis, but this election will give them the platform to continue pushing not just for gun rights which of course is a major part of the debate in that
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state, but also you some z related to abortion and the tyre nichols case. and so they are hoping that people will pay attention and be invested today. and jones is not even facing a primary opponent right now. so they are feeling confident. pearson has a democratic challenger. but it is looking like that they will both likely prevail. and they have a lot of support and more attention that most have enjoyed. thank you very much. and up next lives of hundreds of thousands of people changed drastically when the obama era program known as daca began 11 years ago today. we'll be joined by a dream who is trying to navigate through the legal limbo. mbo. more shopping? you should watch your spending honey.
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governor newsom's office says that they are in close communication and that we focus on working with local communities to humanely welcome people. 11 years ago today, the lives of hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants changed in so many real ways. that was the day president biden created a deferred action for childhood arrives, or daca. a lot of people who came to the u.s. as children to live here without fear of deportation. this morning president biden said marking the anniversary, dreamers are americans. many have spent the majority of their lives in the united states. they are our doctors, teachers and our small business owners. dreamers strengthen our economy. more than three quarters participate in the labor force. contributing an estimated $13.3
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billion to the economy every year. but all of them are really now living in limbo. earlier this month a federal judge heard arguments in a lawsuit brought by a group republican-led states trying to end the program. with us now is nettie lopez, a daca recipients. think thank you for being with us. and how has daca helped you personally? >> it gave me the it unit to go to college. i graduated from fiu. and it is giving me the it unit to think beyond just living in the shadows. >> you know, when we talk about daca and young people, in your case, so you were brought here through no choice of your own, by your parents when you were four years of age. have you known any other country other than the united states since you were four? >> no. i'm grateful to be here.
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right? it was a sacrifice that my parents made in order for me to be it here with you today and be able to talk about the opportunities that i've gotten through the program. and despite that, we see how many people are still coming from countries like mexico, arriving here because they have no other choice. >> and there are millions of people in the united states who are living in mixed immigration status. you and your little brother, he was not even one when you were brought it the united states and you have two siblings born in the united states. so how is it that you go about your day and your life with the possibility that this could all change? >> well, let's see. probably been about -- let's say five years or so since having
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that feeling, right? when administrations changed and so many things were put on hold. and now no one is eligible to apply for the first time for the program. and i'll tell you this, i live my life like any other american. right? and that is where it gets tricky. i live my life -- i don't think that there is a difference in the way that i operate. i go to work. i have my own apartment. i have -- >> you contribute every single day to our country. >> i pay my taxes every year. i bring people to tell them to vote. i encourage people to vote because there are so many uncertainties. >> and what is your dream, what are your dreams? >> my dream is to retire my parents. my dream is to have a home for them. it is to have my own business. to give back to the communities that have faced worse things than myself. help people who are coming here
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53 past the hour. investors are taking stock of the federal reserve's decision yesterday not to raise interest rates for the first time in more than a year. they raised it ten consecutive times. morgan brennan joins us this
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morning. how are they reacting? >> great to see you. taking stock, i would say buying stock as well. investors are taking this news in stride today with the dow up 1% so far in trading. the fed enacted what wall street is referring to as a hawkish hold or pause, since the central bank left interest rates unchanged yesterday after ten straight increases but made it very, very clear through chair powell's press conference and through the economic projections released yesterday that the fed does expect to raise rates again before the year is out, perhaps as many as two times. officials forecast inflation is too high. it's higher than previously thought. the labor market is too tight. the economy is essentially still too strong. for that reason, they are signaling that this is essentially a pause or a skip and that there could be more in the works in terms of interest rate increases over the coming months. it's going to depend, jose, on the data. even this morning, we did get more data that the market is
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reacting positively. >> what does that data tell us? >> what that data tells us is we have u.s. retail sales released for the month of may. those unexpectedly rose .3 prts after an increase in april. they are buying more goods and cars, spending is remaining very resilient right now. that's something that could help support the economy and gdp readings we get for the current quarter. however, we are also seeing data that layoffs are beginning to rise. that could be a wild card in terms of the consumer spending in the second half of the year. weekly jobless claims, initial jobless claims were released this morning. those remain elevated, near the highest level in two years. you put it all together, that data point is one that's going to be well liked by the fed or at least markets think it's well liked by the fed. it all speaks to this narrative that perhaps, even as we have seen all of these interest rate increases over the past year plus, the fed could engineer what's called a soft landing.
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meaning, bringing inflation down, loosening the labor market but avoiding a recession. we will have to see. >> morgan, you said about the labor market being too tight. what did you mean by that? >> what i mean is, we are -- we have an unemployment rate that is still -- it ticked up a little in the last month, based on the monthly jobs report. but it's near historical lows. multi-decade lows. for most americans or folks that go out into the world on a daily basis, how many restaurants or stores have you been into where maybe perhaps they don't have enough workers to be able to cater to all the demands? that's still a very real dynamic in this economy. it's getting a little bit better. we do have the shortage of workers, which raised wages which is contributing to the high inflation we are seeing. >> morgan brennan, thank you so much. appreciate it. it can be difficult for seniors to find care and for the lgbtq+ community, there are some
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challenges as they grow older as well. sharon epperson spoke with one community that came up with away to adapt senior living arrangements to fill that care gap. >> researchers find that older adults in the lgbtq+ community are twice as likely to be single and four times less likely to have children as their non-l g b btq peers. it makes it important to plan ahead for caregiving. margaret came up with a plan to grow old with her wife pat. >> we came out late in life. we don't want to go back in the closet when we get older. >> they created the village hearth. it's a community for lgbtq+ seniors and allies in durham, north carolina. pat joined us on zoom as she was away caring for her orlando
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sister. giving her an appreciation for what she and her wife have built. >> so rewarding to know that there are 30 some people here who have our backs. >> i find that refreshing, that we all can say, yeah, we're going to die, there's going to be people who get sick. these things are going to happen. but we also find that we are really good at taking care of each other. >> every voice is heard. >> neighbors gather together to discuss shared values, organize events and talk about elder care. >> we want to see each other grow and thrive and develop in this community. so caretaking becomes essential. >> alison started a business as an aging advisor, after running senior living facilities. she says the most important step for older adults is to develop a care plan before they need one. >> a lot of people don't think about that in between time, between retirement and actually needing services. there's a really big piece
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missing when it comes to what you could be doing to prepare. >> she advises people to take time after retiring from their careers to educate themselves about the options for caregiving and how to mitigate those costs as they age. >> if you have a plan or you are educated in what the options are, you are not stressed over these big life decisions when you are in a critical crisis. you have put things in place. you have a step by step plan already laid out, which will only save you time and money. >> how to create these plans has been among key discussions in this community. at the village hearth, they have completed essential legal documents, like an advanced directive, and choosing people to serve as financial and health care powers of attorney. experts say these are important steps to take to ensure that your spouses, partners or loved
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ones you choose are the people making certain that your wishes are carried out. jose? >> so important. sharon, thank you so very much. before we go, some news from space. an asteroid the side of the brooklyn bridge is passing less than 3 million miles from earth. the size and distance of the asteroid makes it a potentially hazardous object, according to nasa, despite possessing absolutely no threat of collision. that wraps up the hour for me. you can reach me on twitter and instagram. watch highlights from today's show online here on earth or anywhere else. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on

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