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announced its exit from the city center, with nearly half of the stores set to soon be vacant, the future of those still operating is unclear as the nearby gap shutters and old navy plans to close. westfield says sales in san francisco have dropped 35% since 2019, and malls in neighbors increased 66%. remote work and a decline in tourism have changed the dynamic here. and while statistics show robberies have increased so far this year, other serious crimes are flat or down. though recent crime numbers here are mixed, the image of san francisco has changed. especially as the city deals with a lack of police officers. >> right now san francisco is dealing with a level of drug addiction and drug-driven retail theft and problems with street conditions, and we've got to get our arms around that. >> reporter: the retail decline
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of a major american city, as san francisco pays the price for its struggle over the city's identity. miguel almaguer, nbc news. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. at this hour, treacherous storms are raging across the south. heavy winds, hail and tornadoes knocking out power for tens of thousands of people as the state of alabama warns residents they could see severe weather through the weekend. new economic numbers, u.s. retail sales rising in may. a sign consumers are still fueling the country's economy despite pressures of inflation. new details on the cyber attack, what the u.s. government knows after several federal agencies were hit in the u.s.
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and the powerful message from ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy in an exclusive interview with nbc news. his new details on the fierce counter offensive from his country's military, and the stakes for russia in the latest battle. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments, and we begin with our chief foreign correspondent, richard engel, who sat down with zelenskyy at the presidential palace in kyiv for that exclusive interview. i know you spoke for almost an hour. give us the headlines, what did he tell you? >> reporter: so this was a wide ranging interview, and it was his first since ukraine has launched this long awaited counter offensive. so i first wanted to know, how is it going? for much of this war, ukraine has been trying to defend itself, trying to defend the capitol. trying to push russian troops back from the major cities and prevent a complete russian takeover. now the situation is different. it's ukrainian forces fighting
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against dug in, entrenched russian troops, and the russian troops have mined their areas. it is proving to be very difficult to punch through the russian defenses. and i think president zelenskyy was quite candid. he didn't say that it is going with tremendous speed and that it is smooth sailing. he said already it is early days. it is proving to be very difficult. but, he said, for russia, so much depends on this that if russia loses, it could lose the entire war. i asked about the political climate in the united states because all ukrainians are watching. the debate is happening in the united states right now, particularly comments from republicans including republican presidential candidates who suggest that too much money is being spent on ukraine. governor desantis said it's not in the u.s.'s national interest to get more involved in a territorial dispute between ukraine and russia, and former
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president trump said that the united states is sending too many weapons over to his country, depleting american stockpiles. i asked for his response. >> in many ways this country's very survival depends on the assistance of the united states, other allies, and several republican presidential candidates are expressing concerns about support for ukraine. what would you say to that? >> translator: what would i say, is any candidate or senator who thinks it costs too much for the united states to support ukraine, is he ready to go to war, to fight, to send his kids, are they ready to die? because anyway, they will have to do this if nato gets involved, and anyway, if ukraine would lose, if russia would occupy ukraine, russia will
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continue going towards baltic countries, poland, et cetera. they will start war with one of the natural countries, and this moment, the united states will have to choose. the collapse of nato or go to war? >> reporter: president zelenskyy also had a dire warning. he blamed russia for blowing up a dam in southern ukraine that has flooded much of the region, displaced tens of thousands of people. it was a dam that was under russian occupation. russia denies that it destroyed the dam. president zelenskyy said that he believes the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, which is also currently being held by russian occupation forces is the next target, and i asked him why russia would possibly do something like that, why blow up a nuclear power plant and effectively creating a dirty bomb that would have catastrophic impacts on this country but also potentially on russia and the wider world, he thinks it's because, one, russia
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is not interested in the security in this country, and, two, that russia, vladimir putin might use something as his or her -- horrific as blowing up this nuclear power plant in order to pressure ukraine to stop its offensive and force some sort of peace talks that he thinks could be far too early and not in ukraine's favor. >> some extraordinary insights in a critical part of the war. richard engel, thank you for bringing this to us. we appreciate it. turning to the cyber attack hitting u.s. government agencies. i want to bring in nbc's dan de luce. do we know who's affected or who's behind it? >> we don't know a lot about this cyber attack. there are questions about which federal agencies were hit, whether sensitive files were stolen or government systems disrupted. now, last week, the fbi did issue a warning and said that there was a cyber criminal group called clop that was exploiting
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vulnerability in a popular software tool that's used to transfer files easily, and so it seems to be that would be the prime suspect in this case. earlier today, andrea mitchell spoke to the head of the civilian cyber security agency, jen easterly, and here's what she had to say. >> we're tracking it as a criminal group. many of these criminal groups are located in places like eastern europe. >> right. and could they be russian or state action behind it? >> it's unknown at this time. right now we're tracking it as a well known ransomware group. >> so still a lot of unanswered questions about just how serious this attack is, but we do know that it's already hit the private sector, and many companies and organizations are now grappling with this problem. chris? >> dan de luce, thank you for that. now to the economy and retail spending outperforming analyst projections in may.
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cnbc's morgan brennan joins me on cnbc and msnbc, what are these numbers telling you and is wall street reacting? >> wall street is reacting favorably, the dow up something like 1% right now. i think the bottom line here, chris is that the economy remains resilient, at least for now. look no further than the retail sales number we got this morning. it rose unexpectedly, increasing .3%. that was after a similar increase in april of .4%. this is much better than the decline that economists anticipated. we saw consumers spending on autos, and furniture and gardening, as well as restaurants and services, a big part of the spending puzzle in recently months. consumer spending is 2/3 of gdp. when you see a strong reading that is focused on the consumer, it speaks to, as i mentioned, the underlying strength of the economy, and it will help support the economy in the gdp readings, at least for the current quarter. it speaks to why the federal reserve yesterday, though,
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despite pausing and leaving interest rates unchanged at that meeting yesterday also made it very clear that more interest rate hikes are on the table through the rest of the year, if some of this data continues to remain resilient, not only high inflation ratings, coming down moving in the right direction, higher than the fed's target, but also strong labor data, strong economic data, strong sales and consumer spending data like this as well. part of the reason we are continuing to see this resilient spending is because the labor market is so tight. it has pushed wages up. it has given americans more spending power to at least partially offset those higher prices that they're feeling out there. we saw that in the report today, and at least today, investors are reacting very favorably to it, chris. >> morgan brennan, thank you for that. let's go to alabama, where many schools are closed because of dangerous weather. nbc's kathy park is live on the ground in warrior, alabama. i'm seeing the power of mother nature behind you. what is expected going forward,
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and is the community preparing? >> well, chris, i think the first order of business is to clean up this massive mess behind me. this is kind of an example of what we're seeing throughout the suburbs of birmingham here. the homeowner tells me that this tree fell down this time yesterday. he was hunkering at home, sheltering in place, as the storms barrelled through. he said the rain was coming down so hard he didn't hear these trees coming down. take a look at this. look at the root system here, i'm 5'8", it's way taller than me, and also here on the ground is this marker, this yell tube, a few inches underneath the ground is a gas line. it didn't rupture. it could have been a whole lot worse. robert, the homeowner allowed us on the property to show the damage. fortunately no damage to the home. it is unscathed. he did, however, lose four big trees on his property. power outages still a big
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concern throughout the state of alabama, especially south of where we are in parts of mobile and montgomery. they are bracing for another round of severe weather, hail, damaging winds, also a possibility of tornadoes as well. i just spoke with alabama power. 20,000 customers still without power. they're doing everything they can to restore everyone by today, but of course a big challenge is monitoring the influx of whether that is continuing to move into the area. right now, fortunately, where we are, just outside of birmingham, the sun is out. hopefully some of these homeowners, property owners can get busy and clean up the mess. chris. >> a big job ahead, kathy park, thank you. a dozen contenders for the republican presidential nomination, the newest, the mayor of the city where former president trump was just arrested. does he have a shot? we're back in 60 seconds. a sho?
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and now there are 12. miami mayor francis suarez jumped into the field of republican hopefuls two days after the former president and current gop front runner was arrested and booked in the mayor's own city. suarez's supporters cite key advantages. he's a fresh face in a race where neither of the front runners have an approval rating above water. he's a prolific fundraiser and more moderate than trump or ron desantis, a big plus in the general election, though a formidable challenge in the primaries. the 45-year-old suarez is the youngest person running by far. in an interview this morning, he also highlighted another key demographic. >> i'm the only hispanic candidate in both parties who's running. that's important. 20% of the country is made up of hispanics. i'm focused on creating a brand
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of politics that can win generational elections. >> it's a long shot candidacy to be sure, but maybe an indication that at least some republicans see the inevitable trump nomination as maybe not so inevitable anymore. jonathan lemire is "politico's" white house bureau chief and house of msnbc's "way too early," john kasich is the former republican governor of ohio. both jonathan and governor kasich are msnbc political analysts, and here at the table, nbc's vaughn hillyard who has been covering donald trump. all right, governor, you know, i asked for you specifically because you were the first one who raised with me the prospect of a suarez candidacy on this program. clearly you still have a few people in the republican party whispering in your ear. look, here's the facts also, never been a sitting mayor -- >> i'm like a swammy, i've got a little ball here, i can see the future. just kidding, people whispered to me. >> i'll talk to you about my lottery numbers. back to suarez, never been a
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mayor elected president. people like bloomberg have tried. in miami, this is a ceremonial role. does he have the gravitas to make a showing on the debate stage let alone be president of the united states? >> well, look, i welcome him as a candidate, you know, and my job is to just be a referee here, an umpire, call them like i see them. he's a young guy. miami is happening. if you haven't been there for a while, you need to go. it's really cooking, and i heard early on about the fact that many of the tech giants from california, tech moguls decided they liked miami, it was a place to go. and he's been thinking about the future of business, and he's been promoting companies that represent the future of the digital types, the ones that understand ai and machine learning, and at the same time, you know, he's got low crime, and he's got relatively low homelessness in miami, which is all interesting.
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and he's charismatic, maybe he's running in '24, so he can run in '28, i don't know, don't count anybody out. buttigieg made a name for himself and perhaps suarez will as well. >> and ended up as transportation secretary. there you go. jonathan, look, suarez's age and vitality do present a contrast, some would argue to both front runners, they're 77 and 78 years old. there's a poll that showed 3/4 of americans prefer a president under 65. look, every race hopefully has some substance, but there's also that intangible thing, right, whether it's charisma, vitality, and, yes, this year. is there any doubt, jonathan, age is looking to be a real factor? >> you know, there's no question of that, and poll after poll suggests that americans, even democrats who like the job president biden has done do have concerns that he might be too old. they're not sure they want to see him run again.
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donald trump only a few years younger than joe biden, so, yes, anyone is an issue. this is, indeed, a long shot candidacy. some in the party suggested to me, much like what governor kasich said, this may be him trying to get his name out there. right now, he has low name recognition, in order to set up a future run, '28 or beyond that because he is young and his political future is right. elements of the republican party want to go, they want to, first of all, showcase that florida is a republican stronghold now, and we've noted it's gone red the last few cycles and it's three candidates now, the mayor, governor desantis and donald trump call florida home, all republicans, as well as the idea of it becoming more latino. the party has made some strides there, limited but strides all the same in recent cycles. donald trump has shown some ability to win some latino votes in the last cycle. that's something republicans feel good about perhaps going forward. it's hard to imagine this
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candidacy really catching fire in the short-term. >> you know, if you look in the future, vaughn, there's some talk, maybe he's not really running for president, he's running for vice president. i know kellyanne conway suggested he would be somebody who would appeal to a younger demographic, to the latino community. what are you hearing from inside trump world? i doubt, but tell me if i'm wrong that they're like super worried that he poses a major threat, but who knows. >> he has not said he's running for the vice president. he's actually a year older than the governor of florida, ron desantis, if we're looking at the age factor here. >> oh, okay. >> francis suarez is interesting. the size of miami, 440 population, south bend, a little bit more than 100,000. when you're looking at suarez's candidacy and the threat it may pose to donald trump. there's been no statement from
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donald trump's campaign. the super pac that is aligned with donald trump, the head of it put out a tweet saying why is he running. it's not quite clear. i think the most national recognition that he's got to date was back in march of 2020 when he was one of the first elected officials around the country that got covid. that's when, i think, the national population became more familiar with him. in terms of his biggest challenge here over the next few months, it's going to be getting on the debate stage. he's got to find 45,000 americans to donate to his campaign to get on the debate stage with donald trump. >> most voters don't know who suarez is but they will tonight because he's going to the reagan library. a place that's very familiar for people who want to run for president. >> i have been there myself. >> one chance to make a first impression. how does he take advantage of this opportunity? is it a big opportunity? >> i think it is. it's vision. what i like about him, he didn't vote for trump or desantis
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because he was concerned about immigration. >> some would argue, as you know, that might be a problem for him because he made it very clear that he didn't vote for trump either time. >> yeah, but he's saying he's an independent guy, you know, he's not tiptoeing around his support for trump, although, i guess they say he's warm to him. i think it's an opportunity to project something much different in the party. you know, obviously he's the only hispanic candidate. he will talk about immigration, but he's also going to talk about job growth. he's going to talk about what he has done to reduce the crime rate. he's not going to spend time talking about the woke things. he can be exciting, interesting, charismatic. he was the president of the national league of cities, which means you've got to have your colleagues respect you. i'm not his campaign manager.
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i find it interesting, and i told you i thought we were going to see something happen here. i don't know where this ends up, but it's certainly, to me, a breath of fresh air if he projects the way i feel he should do. >> i don't think you got that information from your crystal ball, but if that's your story, i'll let you stick to it. and, jonathan, there are some questions about suarez legally. the "miami herald" reported that he was paid $75,000 by a local developer who got waivers from the city regarding a development project, and you know what, i read that, and you know, there's no conviction there. nothing like that. but i wonder if just the whole lens of what's disqualifying anymore has changed so much in the era of trump that that might not even really come up? >> it may not come up in part because it remains to be seen how much of a presence he'll really have in this race. i think you raise an interesting question is we know the normal rules of politics have clearly
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over the last six, seven years have proven to not apply to donald trump. had remains to be seen if they apply to anybody else. in moments they have. other candidates do still get tripped up by things that trump is able to shrug off. he is still remarkably teflon, and even the fact that his candidacy is still standing right now where he's had not one but two indictments and potentially more coming is a testament of that, his resiliency, his shamelessness, some might say, and we have seen polls that suggest after the federal indictment, the one out of miami, his support has not shrunk at all. and in some staples has even grown. we know that donald trump seems to defy the rules of political gravity. it remains to be seen about the others, and to your point, great reporting from the miami herald, the local miami newspapers and journalists. let's see if mayor suarez does, indeed, jump on a national stage, undergo a national vetting and see how he withstands that.
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>> former governor kasich, vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. a special primary shaping up in tennessee with two previously expelled lawmakers fighting to keep their seats. and an emotional day in court as closing arguments begin in the tree of life synagogue shooting trial. we'll head to pittsburgh next. n shooting trial we'll head tpio ttsburgh next. my mental health was much better, but i struggled with uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia. td can be caused by some mental health meds. and it's unlikely to improve without treatment. i felt like my movements were in the spotlight. ingrezza is a prescription medicine to treat adults with td movements. ingrezza is different. it's the simple, once-daily treatment proven to reduce td that's #1 prescribed. people taking ingrezza can stay on their current dose of most mental health meds. ingrezza 80 mg is proven to reduce td movements in 7 out of 10 people. don't take ingrezza if you're allergic to any of its ingredients. ingrezza may cause serious side effects, including sleepiness. don't drive, operate heavy machinery, or do other dangerous activities until you know how ingrezza affects you.
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today in tennessee, democratic state representatives justin jones and justin pearson
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are vying to keep their seats in a special primary election. earlier this year, the tennessee house voted to expel them for leading a gun violence protest inside the capitol alongside representative gloria johnson, although she was not voted out. the two were reappointed to their seats by local governments. nbc's antonia hilton is here with more. so what are we expecting today? >> today is really a test of whether these two lawmakers who have been catapulted into the national spotlight after all of the debate in their state over gun reform, whether they can galvanize their local constituents and remind them right now in the middle of the summer of the special election to come out and have their voices heard. you know, these are two pretty democratic leaning communities, nashville and memphis, respectively, some of the most diverse areas of the state, and so their camps, their supporters are feeling pretty good that these two are going to get their seats back. it's been a long road for them. you know, this initially was a major knock for them. they were, of course, there on
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the floor, protesting and chanting alongside high school and college-aged students and gun reform ended up colliding with a whole host of democratic issues in the state there. and so the question right now is how do they turn this national platform this way in which democrats in tennessee who don't normally get a lot of spotlight, but now they've turned it into fundraising dollars and support that this party hasn't seen in a while. how do they really translate that now into a permanent movement there. they need their supporters to back them today so they can get back in their seats permanently, no longer on an interim basis and push for issues like gun reform, abortion, police reform coming off the tyre nichols case in the state as well. these are two of the only people of color, youngest lawmakers there, so they have a coalition, a really young group of folks behind them who i think are eager to see them back there and representing that sort of part of tennessee, their voice. >> as you know, an off year election, it's tough to get people out, a special election, forget it, but are they feeling
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pretty confident because they have gotten so much publicity, and because there were so many people who felt empowered by what they did that they are going to get the turnout? >> absolutely. that's a big part of it, the level of publicity, the way in which young groups and organizations have come out behind the two of them in recent months, but there's also just the logistics here. representative jones does not even have a primary challenger on the democratic side right now. pearson does, but if he prevails, it's all but, you know, a sure thing when august, the election comes around. >> i know you'll follow it through. thank you so much, good to see you my friend. closing arguments wrapped in the trial of the gunman who killed 11 people at pittsburgh's tree of life synagogue in 2018. robert bowers faces 63 federal charges related to the shooting. he pled not guilty but his defense team has acknowledged he carried out what was the deadliest anti-semitic attack in u.s. history. joining me now from pittsburgh, nbc news correspondent george
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solis. help us understand what's happening and what comes next? >> reporter: good afternoon, chris. so our understanding is that the deliberations here with the jury might begin shortly. both sides completing their closing arguments this afternoon. this is two and a half weeks of the case in the guilt phase to determine whether or not robert bowers carried out this attack, the prosecution presenting 60 witnesses, the most impactful likely the final two, including the mother of one of the victims, and an officer who was shot who responded the day of the shooting. the defense presenting no witnesses. and as you mentioned, during opening arguments, defense attorney judy clark saying there would be no dispute and no doubt that bowers carried out this heinous attack, but they were trying to raise questions about his intents and motivation. again, we are just learning right now that the deliberations may very well go underway for, again, the so called guilt phase of this. if the jury does come back with
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government. the house passed a resolution. gershkovich was taken into custody in march and accused of espionage. the journal and the u.s. government strongly deny the allegation with the state department designating him as wrongfully detained. an appeal hearing against his pre-trial detention is scheduled for next week. a scathing new report offers what the "new york times" calls, quote, a damming verdict on the former uk prime minister boris johnson after a 14-month investigation, a committee of british lawmakers concluded that the former leader deliberately misled parliament over parties during a covid lockdown in what became down as partygate. i want to bring in nbc's ali arouzi from london. johnson actually resigned from parliament last week, apparently after learning of these findings in advance. so where does this go from here? >> reporter: well, chris, it's a spectacular fall from grace for a man who only three years ago led the conservative party to a
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landslide victory election. and today he becomes the first former british prime minister in british history to have been found to deliberately mislead parliament. that is a huge turn around from three years ago for boris johnson. now, in a 106-page damming report, mp said that he committed serial offenses over these partygate offenses that he knew had personal knowledge of. i want to read you part of the committee's statement, if we can bring it up on screen. they say the contempt was all the more serious because it was committed by the prime minister, the most senior member of government, there is no precedent for a prime minister having been found to have deliberately misled the house. he misled the house on an issue of the greatest importance to the house and to the public, and he did so repeatedly. so these are very serious charges against boris johnson, and had he not resigned on
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friday, chris, he would have probably faced a 90-day suspension, which would have then triggered a bye election, which he would have lost and this would have made this episode even more embarrassing for him. unsurprisingly, the character that he is, he's come out swinging. he's accused the committee of being a kangaroo court, that are stitching him up and putting the final knife in a protracted political assassination into his back. and whether this is going to kill his political career or not remains to be seen. he's weathered many many scandals and political storms, and like a weighted russian doll, every time he was knocked down, he bounces back up. but these accusations and the findings are very serious. much of his party has turned against him, and as one of the elite deputy leaders of the opposition parties, here the
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liberal democrats say the damning findings of this report will probably be the final nail in the coffin of boris johnson's political career, but again, it might be a little soon to write off a man that seems to be a teflon politician, chris. >> i don't know if he's had his nine lives yet, thank you so much for that. with tensions rising between china and the u.s. secretary of state antony blinken is making a critical trip to the country tomorrow, where he'll meet with senior chinese officials and push for a thaw between the two power houses. janis mackey frayer is in beijing for us. how hopeful are both sides here? >> reporter: expectations are low. the fact that the visit is happening is a bit of progress here. it follows months of tense and terse relations between the u.s. and china since the spy balloon was shot down, and secretary of state blinken called off a visit here hours before he was supposed to travel to try to reset relations, so in many
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ways, this is now the reset of the reset. and the relationship was icy even before the balloon. it's broken down even further over tech export lists, supply chains, taiwan, russia, and now these accusations of chinese spy bases in cuba. but it seems there's been just enough of a thaw to get both sides in the same room. and the conversation actually started a couple of days ago with a phone call between the secretary of state and his chinese counter part, the foreign minister here, a former ambassador to the u.s. judging by the readouts from the conversation, it wasn't a warm one. the chinese statement telling the u.s. to stop interfering in china's affairs, and to stop harming china, so that scene is setting the tone for discussions. this is a very high stakes visit. the first by a secretary of state to china since 2018. mr. blinken will meet with china's president xi jinping. for u.s. officials, they say
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it's about managing competition, and keeping the lines of communication open. for chinese officials, they acknowledge that the relationship has encountered difficulties and challenges, but, quote, the responsibility is clear. in that they blamed the u.s. for sour ties. so bottom line is that neither side is expecting a breakthrough. nbc's janis mackey frayer, thank you for that. turning now to the tragedy off the coast of greece where searchers are skeptical of finding more survivors after a fishing boat filled with migrants sunk yesterday. 78 bodies have been recovered. 104 people were rescued, but hundreds more remain missing. officials believe the boat may have sunk because it ran out of fuel or had engine troubles as it was making its way from libya to italy. new developments today regarding that massive highway collapse in philadelphia where rebuilding efforts now stand and how you can watch it live. that's next. nd an
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years old on board. >> people were very tired. again, a little disoriented. once we explained to them where they were, who we were, you could see people just kind of relaxing just a little bit more, and i just want to say, we had a good interaction with all of those children trying to make sure that they, you know, their nerves were calmed a little bit. >> so although they ended up in los angeles, our affiliate there reports at least one of the migrants has an upcoming court appointment in new york. meanwhile, in northeast philadelphia, state and federal officials say it's not clear how long it will take to repair both directions of the collapsed i-95 overpass. nbc news correspondent emilie ikeda is at the scene for us. they're going to tell people, if you want to chart the progress and see how we're doing, we're going to make that possible for you. tell us what else is going on there. >> that's right, and that live stream is already up and running, hundreds of people tuning in at this hour, and what
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you're seeing right now is actually just the final stages of the demolition phase, and officials say it's actually moving ahead of schedule in that regard. you'll see the cranes removing some of the final beams there before we start to see them fill the gap. trucks dropping off a glass-based recyclable product that will fill the gap, pave the area over with six lanes of temporary lanes, and then rebuild the overstay, a more permanent portion around it, so they can at least get part of the interstate up and running earlier, and there's a lot on the line when it comes to this project. when you think about the 160,000 vehicles that traverse regularly that part of i-95 that was essentially scorched to pieces from the fiery tanker truck, last weekend, 14,000 of those are trucks and they're now facing 40 miles of detour, which impacts the supply chain. it's not just truckers it's commuters. here's someone who relies a lot on the roads.
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it may not be proof of extraterrestrials but it might be the next best thing. scientists now say they have found the essential building blocks for life on a moon 790 million miles away. an astro physicist and author of "a quantum life," so good to see you. give us the basics, what have we found and where is it? >> well, what we're doing now is sort of looking for the
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ingredients of life. so when you talk about how nasa goes about looking for life, there were two themes. one theme was follow the water, so this small moon has a lot of water. it has a sub surface ocean, and the other model has been, follow the energy. life needs energy. so the tidal flexing of the moon provides the geothermal energy that life could use to power itself, but if you have the water and you have the energy, you may not necessarily have the ingredients, and life depends on these six simple elements. and all but one of them had been identified. and that's phosphorous. but studies showed that if there was phosphorous on this moon, then chances are it was locked in rocked and not available for life to use. and what this new study shows is that is not the case. the phosphorous is there. it's dissolved in the ocean, and so if there is life there, it can use it. >> so what kind of life are we talking about?
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what could exist? >> well, if you look at how we use phosphorous in our bodies and animals use it, you've heard of these molecules that we use for energy, atp and adp, right, well, guess what the p stands for, phosphorous. it's not just us multisailor animals use, also microbes use it. the type of life we expect to find is microbial life. multicellular life on earth requires microbic respiration, photo synthesis, and since no light can get to the ocean, we don't expect oxygen energy, we don't expect photo synthesis, you can only have very simple life. >> still, it's awfully cool, and i don't want to get greedy, but
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saturn has more than 100 moons, so if one of them has the necessary building blocks, could more of them also potentially support life? we just don't know it yet? >> yeah, absolutely. you know what's really shocking is that as we look out into interplanetary space, we're finding the building blocks of life in not just simple elements that are necessary but also big molecules that are necessary. for example, all the of bases that make up our rna and dna have been identified in space. what we're doing is we're seeing that everywhere around us, the stuff of life is there. the water is there. >> wait, wait, our rna and dna? >> oh, yeah, so the atcg, you know these letters that are the nucleotide bases, each of these has been identified in space. i'll tell you what's interesting, there is a lab that created a planet simulator in canada, and they have shown that
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it's really easy to create these lipid, you know, what our cell walls are, which, by the way, requires phosphorous, as well as rna can be made spontaneously in nature, so this whole idea of how life started on earth, one big idea is called rna world, where it looks like that may be very easy to accomplish, even on something like a tiny moon, orbiting far away from the sun. >> i never thought i could be so excited about phosphorous, i actually him. akeem o'shea, you have such a cool job, and you're so fun to talk to. thank you, it's great to meet you. >> thanks for having me. that's it for us this hour, join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. donald trump has pleaded not guilty to 37 felony counts of

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