>> a very good day two of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome everyone to alex witt reports, we begin with breaking news. president biden surveying the i-95 bridge collapse by air this morning. as assessing the damage from the tanker truck explosion just months ago. the president pledging billions of dollars from his bipartisan infrastructure law to help rebuild. he's holding his first big

reelection again with a rally in philadelphia with union members. the president is seeing endorsements from some of the country's largest unions, a preview in just moments. also new today, more details on trump's indictment. the justice department filing for a protective order which if granted would prevent trump from sharing any classified material for people not involved in the case. new york times says that order says ongoing investigations could identify uncharged individuals. i'll be discussing the latest on the diamond later this hour with jasmine crockett. secretary of state anthony blinken traveled to china today on a high stakes mission to ease rising tensions. blinken is the highest level american official to visit beijing since president biden took office. earlier today, president discussing china, despite balloon incident that delayed blinken's initial trip scheduled in february. i think one of the things about

that balloon, it was not that it got shut down but i don't think the leadership knew where it was and knew what was in it and what was going on. i think it was more embarrassing than it was tension. and so i'm hoping that over the next several months i will be meeting again and talking about legitimate differences that we have, but also there is that we can get along. >> and that just moments ago, the president delivering new remarks in philadelphia about the i-95 highway collapse after a briefing on the severity of the situation. take a listen. >> i told the governor, there is more -- i'm directing my team to move heaven and earth as soon as humanly possible. >> let's go to nbc's mike who is with the president in philadelphia. mike, welcome my friend. so the president is now preparing to speak at that

rally in the next couple of hours. what else are we likely to hear from him today? >> well alex, it's interesting because this rally was already on the books, it had already been scheduled before we saw that highway collapse here in this very city. what it actually has served to do in a way is help underscore and highlight one of the issues, one of the accomplishments that has brought this president coalition of different labor unions that don't always play nicely with one another together to host this first big rally for the presidents reelection campaign. the president calls himself middle class joe, he also says that it is unions that built the middle class. this is really a perfect setting to get that message out about a key issue in the 2024 election which is going to be about the economy. we actually heard president biden this morning talk a little bit about the importance of this message. let's listen to that. >> i'm excited about today. it's just like what we did last week in the environmental groups. i think i'm told this is the first time ever this early that

every single union has endorsed me. i'm told that is never happen before. people can work together like before. i'm excited about something big, changing the economic balance. >> what kind of campaign do you think you're going to have, is it gonna be nasty. -- >> it depends on the nominees. >> that really is a big variable at the 2024 election, who the president is going to be running against. but it's interesting, the white house said, the biden team is said that he's not necessarily going to be doing these kinds of rallies regularly this year, it is that rose garden strategy, using official vents to carry the message while republicans are sorting themselves out. one other thing that we are going to see the present ramp up in the next couple of weeks, fundraising. the quarterly fundraising, remember the present just announced his campaign two months ago. it is really important for him to put up a very big number to show that there is enthusiasm

behind his campaign. 20 fund-raisers between now in the end of june involving the president, vice president, and other top cabinet officials involved in this operation as well. a big effort underway. >> wow, 20 between now and the end of june. that is more than one today, that is a lot. okay, and good job talking through whatever that is plain behind you. i'm trying to figure out what song it is. don't quite recognize it my friend. talk to you later mike. joining me right now is robert gibbs, former white house press secretary and elise jordan, former aide to the george w. bush white house. and state department as well. both msnbc political analysts. hey guys, good to see you. so robert, the president they're heading to this rally today with endorsements from three of the nation's largest labor unions. how big a boost is that, what kind of message do you expect to hear from president biden later on? >> well, i think the boost is that everybody is getting early in the democratic primary. i think that is going to be good for how to build the

infrastructure of the campaign. how to build field operations, how to get those folks to help you turn out to vote. and what i think we will hear today, you heard a little bit of mike set this up. you hear a bit about accomplishments. but i think what the president wants to do, and i think what voters really need to hear from him is an economic case for the future, how do all of these accomplishments go together? how do they tell a story, how do they demonstrate the investments that he wants to make, whether it's the infrastructure, whether it's in a clean energy economy weather in a scene manufacturing boom. all of those things together i think inherently drive a message and a story that are fundamentally born here. campaigns particularly presidential ones are about the future. and the american people want to know what their lives are gonna be like for the next 5 to 10 years. they don't want to look backwards, there is a republican candidate very much stuck in the backwards lane of this. voters want to hear about what is happening in their lives, what is happening in the

future. >> good point, these come early, someone like a kennedy or a williamson, they cannot get those kinds of endorsements. they've already been placed. the president told white house aides and his reelection team, they should say zip about trump's legal troubles. but nbc news reports that some biden allies, they're getting kind of frustrated because they're saying that they think that approach is unsustainable. ed because so how do you see it? is it rising above or is it missed opportunity? >> i think there is a danger in letting donald trump defined the issue rather than joe biden having giving the message that this actually was a big deal, these were a lot of classified documents. i clarify the rules and i accidentally took documents, i sent them right back when i was told to. there is, i agree with those critics of the strategy, you don't use your pit to talk about something that is

necessarily defeating you. i do you think there is a pretty big risk that donald trump can message to the point of making this, conflating this with all of the other previous classified documents that really pale in magnitude toward donald trump. >> another way to look at this, robert. there is a senate democratic aide telling nbc news that democrats are committing a grievous political error, allowing trump to frame the indictment on his terms. do you agree with that, i guess the bigger question is, how would trump be reigned in any way? >> look, barring a judges order, don trump is going to say whatever donald trump wants to say. i think we have a six years of evidence that just because don trump says it, doesn't mean that the majority of the american people believe it. in reality, probably quite the opposite. i think this white house has to be enormously careful as they

have been in talking about this indictment. they are far more likely to give trump supporters ammunition that this is about a political opponent than it is about the rule of law if they comment. when i was in the white house, there are only a stern number of people that can even pick up the telephone and call the department of justice. i have no doubt that that is the same in the biden white house and i don't think there is much to be gained by just joe biden trying to frame what prosecutors are going to frame for more jointly and far more effectively then he will from what many will discount as a political lens. >> listen, i just say, can the video that we are just showing as you are talking, you saw don trump, he went into that restaurant after his arraignment there. he was -- the russian for sale depending on where you are. he was in there saying, didn't for all, food for all.

he left without paying the bill, not surprisingly. you can always believe what he says. but as you go to this, the new headline today in the new york times, evidence in trump documents case hints at ongoing investigations. the filing says that what is the breaking point for trump? do his legal issues catch up with him electorally? do they? >> i still think that on trump could win the republican nomination for president. he still is that much the favorite among the republican primary electorate and he is going stronger. and he's fundraising off of this, does it hurt him in a general election? yes. but for now, just in terms of the republican field, i think that this is only to his benefit. >> what about trump getting the republican primary feet in the new university poll. this really backs of what you're saying. 52%, even after being arraigned on federal charges. he is 30 points ahead of

florida governor ron desantis, robert. look, these trump numbers feel stunning in that they have not dipped. determine brett sphere trump winning the nomination for a, the sake of the country or be, do they want him to make it because they think he is an easier general election opponent? >> how about c, all of the above, alex. i do think in some ways that there are democrats who believe that the easiest opponent for joe biden to beat is don't trump. obviously, what happens if we saw this in 2016, if you are the republican nominee, you've got at least -- you have a 50/50 chance of being president. i don't know many democrats that want to go back to 2016 and to what happened obviously in that election. i would just -- the one thing i would say about the national polling in this, and i've said this a lot before too, this race is going to change a lot of the republican side based on what happened in iowa and new hampshire.

if donald trump comes rolling out a both of those two states with winds, it will solidify that national polling lead. if he tripped up in either one of those states, i can assure you that morning after that, we will wake up two very different national polling. we saw it as it related to joe biden in 2020. we'll see this on the republican side. but i think the challenge republicans are having, we see this around the indictments. they are all essentially hugging donald trump. they are all, only mike pence has started to do this a little bit. but everybody rushed out to say what a terrible indictment this was. how bad the department of justice was in politicizing indictments. and a rush to pardon donald trump. i don't understand how you're supposed to draw a contrast with the person who you are running against in the republican nomination if every time donald trump gets indicted you rush to say how bad it is. >> that is what is publicly

being said, at least. nbc is reporting that congressional republicans are at odds over whether to support trump in 2024 if he is convicted of federal crimes. given the focus groups that his conduct in the past, given a sense of how voters feel about him with -- would he abandon or convicted or merely multi-indicted donald trump? >> you might have the loop warm trump's, the whole younos and the voted for trump, and the republicans who we really like to vote, they might defect as we are seeing in the percentage, i think desantis is around 20% and the other republicans who are single digit. you would see that defection. but no, overall, trump's voters would hold and they would be more enthusiastic than ever. the greater his lead or struggles get, these messages that they can do this to me, they can do this to you. he is actually sticking to that message and being much more, making it much more about his

general calls then just his pity party. although, he does do that frequently to. >> he sure does. okay, listen to both, rob and police, don't go too far. a bit later in this hour we are going to discuss three things here. they have declared their intention to run for president or appear to be staging iran. what does all mean for president biden? something, nothing, we will discuss. meantime, coming up next, the doj's probe into the minneapolis police department and the ugly acts that led to a scathing review. plus, the implications for police departments across the country. we are back in 60 seconds. country. we are back in 60 seconds. we are back in 60 seconds. when it comes to your hair, ingredients matter. that's why herbal essences is packed with naturally derived plant ingredients you love, and none of the stuff you don't. our sulfate-free collections smell incredible... ♪ and leave your hair touchably soft and smooth. ♪

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doj, pattern of abuse by minneapolis police. let's bring in nbc's jesse, cheese on the ground in minneapolis for us also paul butler, msnbc legal analyst. law professor and federal prosecutor. welcome guys, let's start with you. what did this report reveal and how are residents they're reacting? >> yeah alex, bottom line, the attorney general for the united states merrick garland saying that the practices and the patterns that the justice department observed here in minneapolis made the murder of george floyd possible. i'll read you a line from this report from the justice department which says that the minneapolis police department quote uses unreasonable force and infringes on first amendment rights and discriminates based on race and disability, and specifically the justice department singling out that the police department was discriminating against black people as well as native american people and i want to read this other note because i think this is something that is another topic that gets a lot of conversation. the department and the city

quote, discriminates against people with behavioral health disability when responding to calls for assistance. the report saying that the department was using weapons against people who were committing and most what they're describing as petty offenses and in some cases have been doing anything wrong at all. for some in this community, alex, this is a wake up call that is long overdue. >> we do not feel safe. we are grateful that the department of justice has finally decided to intervene. this intervention was long overdue and we are hopeful, we are doing our best to put our trust in them. they will hold minneapolis elected officials accountable. >> the issue is, the collective silence of white communities in minnesota that have failed to talk about this. this is why it keeps happening. why does it take the doj pulling up with the consent decree for people to say something? >> the doj also released more

than two dozen recommendations that present joe biden is calling for legislative reform in congress. alex? >> he sure is. okay jesse, thank you for that. so, paul what do you believe are the most egregious actions by a minneapolis police restarting the doj's report? >> alex, word even start. you watch everything the cops did to george floyd, they have done too many other people. the report says that they fired their guns at unarmed people who were just calling 9-1-1. police used deadly force against people who were committing suicide, they refused to provide medical assistance to a diabetic woman who they arrested. she was lying on the street, crying in pain and they put her in a restraint jacket. the last five years, media plus has paid more than $70 million in police misconduct settlements. >> that was a stunning figure

right there. so quickly fall, you think the doj findings have a broader implication for other police departments across the country? >> definitely. when there is a systemic problem of police misconduct, the justice department can take over the local departments, so consent decrees help reduce police misconduct in the short term. they are expensive, they can take a lot of time, sometimes the improvements only last as long as the federal oversight lasts. but there is success stories. like in baltimore, 227-page detailed comprehensive plans but alex, last year shootings by police officers in baltimore were down almost 80%. >> okay. all right, thank you for that point. jesse, thank you as much. paul, i'm gonna ask you to stick around because i would talk to you a bit more a minute. after a rough week for the former president, two new headlines that will likely give him a headache. we're gonna show them to you next. connect your business,

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trump last biden's case. the new york times reporting a new findings by prosecutors seeking a protective order for evidence. handset ongoing investigations and other cases could potentially emerge. and the wall street journal today reporting while the mar-a-lago cases in the spotlight, jack smith is pushing ahead of the investigation into trump's effort to reverse the 2020 election results. joining me now, wall street journal reporter, she was inside the courtroom for trump's arraignment last tuesday. and paul butler is back with me. so, welcome to you both again. do you, paul we'll start with you, get to the rain in just a second. i do want to ask you about this new report from your colleague saying, hours before trump appeared at the miami courthouse and pleaded not guilty, the chairman of that is republican -- he walked in the federal trial in washington, what was that about? >> thank you so much, my

colleague reported that they were seeing at the washington court house and it is unclear if that particular federal probe is going to lead to an indictment. just hours before this was going on in washington d.c. and then here we are in this incredible historic moment in miami. donald trump pleading not guilty to these incredible charges. let me tell you a little bit about what it was like in that courtroom because -- >> let me just establish this. you are sitting directly behind secret service, right? jack smith was there, you had i understand a really good view of donald trump. so, talk about his demeanor. >> do you see that hazy feminine blog in the background, that is actually me. i don't know how i got lucky enough to sit right there but it was incredible because right when i walked in.

first thing i notice was the secret service, they had a really aggressive tense demeanor. one of them kept punching his job repeatedly. they all fill those prowse and as we walked in, honestly i didn't even notice that don trump was already seated in the courtroom until i sat down, got my bearings, looked around, and realized that don trump was in front of me. and actually i was at an angle and it was able to make his profile as he looked over and whispered to his attorney. basically, he was not turning around the entire time. he can even look at jack smith, he didn't look at the federal prosecutors. he was seated, looking for the entire time. at times, he folded his arms in front of him, at one point the most interesting thing i saw was when robert was signing the -- he looked over him and close his eyes for about two seconds,

then blinked very slowly and he repeated that like about five times. while clenching his jaw, really, really tightly. >> hang on a second, did that feel like a message he was sending? was there something in his eye? what happened there? >> i don't know, it was a sequence of events that is really interesting. he did it five times in a row, he wasn't looking back at any one, it was just kind of like a moment that he was having. i have to say, i've never seen that kind of expression on don trump before. i have to add that when he got up and turned to leave the courtroom, he was looking down at the ground and he was pressing his lips, pursuing them tightly together. the corners of his mouth just dropped into the deepest frown i have ever seen on anyone in my entire life. and then he looked up at me and the other reporters around me, kind of with a bit of curiosity. this is the first time that he was looking anywhere in the courtroom behind him.

and then he just kind of walked out, blank, flanked by secret service. i had a chance to speak with a former assistant u.s. attorney right before going into the courtroom about how this measure isn't -- he happened to have been at the very first senate hearing and he said that was a garden compared to this. this was much more serious because it deals with issues of national security. >> maybe that was not lost on donald trump given the expressions that you are describing. it would seem like a normal interpretation of that. let me bring paul into this conversation though. this is absolutely fascinating what you're telling me. so the times today, paul, says the evidence prosecutors are poised to give the defense is part of the discovery process, they contain information about ongoing investigations that could quote, identify uncharged individuals. what evidence do you expect prosecutors to share and can you tell from the indictment

who the uncharged individuals might be, will kind of rolled in my play? >> i wish i could, alex but this reference to ongoing investigations and additional defendants is extremely suggestive. it is a cliché to say the jack smith speaks through his court filing, but he certainly chooses every word in those violent -- so this could be another espionage act case based on trump's dissemination of documents in new jersey. it could refer to january six, we don't know. but i suspect that we will find out soon. >> paul, trump's lawyers yesterday, as you, know they filed notice -- alien candidates too -- obtain security clearances. does this indicate, judge cannon is inclined to set an early trial date, with that necessarily mean a speedy trial?

>> such a great question,, alex the judge ordered trump's defense attorneys to obtain these expedited security clearances. [inaudible] good news for jack, smith it's bad news for prosecutors, judge cannon, apparently she is hanging on to this case, ignoring all the calls to recuse yourself because of her favoritism towards donald trump. it got reversed by the court of the peels. the good, news as you suggest, judge cannon ordered an expedited process for the security clearances, meaning that at least, at this point, she is slow walking the case as what donald trump would love her to do. >> here's something interesting, the times is also reporting that judge bruce-y reinhart has been assigned to help judge cannon with the. casey of course issued the search warrant executed at mar-a-lago. what kind of role would he play? >> well, i usually think --

unusually large one. among judge karen's many thoughts she is extremely inexperienced with trials. she's only had four criminal trials in her whole career as a judge. i've actually worked with reinhart, we were in the justice department public corruption section at the same time. he is a very experienced criminal prosecutor. now, he's a federal court officer. i think he will try to out-judge her. >> hey, deborah, before i let you guys go, i just want to ask, you mentioned the secret service being struck or having a certain demeanor and they looked at all the journalists in the room. how did you interpret that? >> you, know it is hard to interpret what their facial expressions, or donald trump's facial expressions are. but i can say that i've been a journalist for 13, years i was there that morning that they raided mar-a-lago. i was there when the balloons came down at the gop convention

a donald trump got a nomination. i was there the day that he was inaugurated president by washington d.c.. this is the donald trump i have never seen before. this is a man that takes up a lot of, room he commands an audience, his voice is heard. and in this, case we had totally different facial expressions for donald trump, he was not heard once in the courtroom. and it was just a moment in history that i will never forget. >> thank you for sharing all of that with us. debra, paul, thank you both. my next guest, school congresswoman lauren boebert, during a capitol hill hearing, we'll show you that moment coming up. we'll show you that moment coming up. type 2 diabetes? discover the power of 3 in the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ (oh, oh, oh, ozempic®!) ♪ in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk,

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justice department, a new report details the radical strategy behind the promise to go after biden. the new york times reports trump's allies want to eliminate the doj's independence from the white house. congressman, eric swalwell, warning that the plan could have damaging results. >> the risk is more political violence of a greater magnitude. right, now my republican colleagues are saying openly that this is war. and we need eye for an eye. the violent rhetoric is only escalating and i'm afraid that, unless the leader of the party who is elected, speaker mccarthy, starts to condemn this, we are going to a very bad place. >> joining me now, texas congressman, jasmine -- democratic member of the house oversight committee.

someone we hardly welcome back to the podcast. -- it's congressman swalwell right. how do you interpret these attacks to the doj? >> absolutely, alex, it's great to see. you but one of the things i want to make clear is the party of law and order is now saying, hey defund law. enforcement the party that backs the blue is also the party that was bashing the blue on january 6th. i need people to see the hypocrisy that is continually permeating this party. and honestly, if you are a real republican, like old school republican, you should be offended in saying, hey i want nothing to do with this. because this is in the republican party. this is something completely different. this is far reaching, it is definitely tearing us apart. it is already starting. and we know that they do not believe in law and order. >> do you get a sense any of

the republicans defending trump think about the effect on the country? if a segment of society doesn't believe our legal system is fair, how do you think? descends >> i don't think that they care. like, this is a game for them. they don't understand that there are real people that are truly harmed. and honestly, when people are, harmed they don't care. i remember earlier this year when we were commemorating what happened in honoring law enforcement for their bravery on january 6th, you could count the number of republicans that showed up to support law enforcement on that day. my, do you this is the law enforcement that is charged with protecting us every single day. and that's exactly what they do. regardless as to whether or not we are democrats, republicans, that is their job. they didn't even want to honor them on that day. so, no i don't think they care. i think they care about being part of the it club or the

quake that trump has put together we. that's a disheartening hobbs or patient you are sharing there. some republicans on the oversight committee, they were making accusations over an alleged bribery scheme involving president biden. as you look at the latest headlines, the allegations are reportedly transparently -- more republicans are casting doubt that any audiotapes exist. the white house has been asked about the republican allegations. they are political stunts designed to, quote, attacked the president. what can you tell us about this sincere on the oversight committee. is there anything to these accusations? and what are republicans exactly hanging their hats on? >> it is amazing that they can review one document and decide that we have the most corrupt president that ever existed. yet, we've got actual indictments from new york as well as out of florida, from grand juries, not necessarily the president, as they tried to put out, they're not

necessarily our a.g., not necessarily the special prosecutor, but from citizens who sat down and reviewed not one document, but documents. mounds of documents, and determined that there was enough to continue to go forward and decide whether or not trump can violate law. there is nothing to see, here they. say but for some reason. this one document, this one document where the very first page said do not disclose what is in this document. and so we know, number, one republicans are not good at keeping secrets. clearly. we see what happened with the former president. number two, maybe they didn't necessarily violate. it because i had an opportunity to read this document and i don't know what they read, but that was not what i got out of it. i don't want to say what i did get out of, it but i also want to point out that it was trump's doj that receive this information. it was trump's doj that followed up and determined that

there was nothing to follow up. so, yes my chairman on oversight, can't find the witnesses, but we all know, that jack smith has found all the witnesses that he needs to make sure that he can go forward with his prosecution of the former president. >> let me tell, you we don't have access to these documents that you did, but everybody should read the article in the washington post by philip bump about this. it's so, dense the entire thing has been highlighted in yellow. because there's a lot of information there. going through step-by-step, it is a good one. in the meantime, we have the doj, which has released a damning assessment of the minneapolis police department. what is your reaction to that? and might this jump-start congress to get back on the table and federal pleas for form? >> you know, alex, as someone who literally entered politics because i was frustrated with the systems as they exist, because i've done the civil rights, work i've met and had to talk to those mothers that really don't understand why

their child is gone, and why their child left this earth of the hands of law enforcement, and why they are seemingly was no type of recourse, whether it was criminal court, or whether it was this civil route. i get it. i was brought to this world because of it. . i am fighting for it every single day. but my republican colleagues, the idea that these guys can't even -- i mean, it wasn't widely covered, but we weren't voting for an entire week because they themselves couldn't get themselves together as the majority. so do i have high hopes that they will say, you know what? we see that there have been violations of civil rights over and over and over again. so you know what? we're gonna move forward with legislation to address this issue? absolutely not. once we got back to congress, we were fighting for the freedom of gas stoves. i kid you. not that is the name of the

bill. the freedom for gas. stoves so no, i don't think that they value our lives. >> last thought on. that republican congressman, lauren -- sparred with a witness overnight. here's a little bit of that exchange of what you had to say about. it take. listen >> congress -- excuse me, this is my time. thank you. >> oh i'm sorry, you are not -- >> the it is my time, thank. you >> let me apologize, because that was uncalled. for so let me do what she would never, do which is to be an adult in this room. or in this chamber. so let me start there. i'm also going to start with some nonsense that she was trying to spew, and unlike miss boebert, i am legally trained and i have passed a few bar exams. and i also legislated before i got here. >> in summary, one of the challenges working on the oversight committee with republicans like lauren boebert, marjorie taylor greene? >> they literally like all

substance. it is not just in committee, it is just generally speaking. i saw exactly what happened, you saw, it you saw someone who decided, that i don't have anything of value to offer, so what i'm going to do is be disrespectful and overtop you. and somehow that will be perceived as, i know something. but i definitely -- i laid out my credentials, not so much to clap on her, but it had more so to do with her not understanding what it was that she was trying to spar with our witness about. so i was laying down that i understood and she didn't, and maybe she needs to do a little research before she came to me. trying to clap back on people. >> so you have the, crowds congressman, jasmine, good to see. you get to see. you sow insult to injury, how the situation is getting worse for residents in a small town, torn apart by a tornado. torn apart by a tornado.

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that a scorching the southern u.s. this, weekend affecting over 33 million people with heat and x is expected to rise into the hundred and tens. some of the highest temperatures expected in texas and louisiana. where it's going to be about 15 to 25 degrees hotter than usual. it comes after devastating storm slammed that region this week, leaving at least three people dead and dozens injured. for the very latest on the extreme, weather let's go to nbc,'s priscilla, thompson in perryton, texas, michelle grossman will have the forecast for us,. welcome to, both priscilla, what is the situation like there in texas after the deadly storms? it looks like a mess behind you. >> yeah, alex, i want to give you a sense of how things are looking. i am standing at what used to be a hardware and lumber store. as you can, see a huge tanker truck was completely just dumped on top of what used to be a building here. there are crews working to try to clear out this area.

and really begin to assess this damage. one of the things that is so remarkable about what happened here is that this tornado came so quickly that the sheriff tells me there wasn't even time to sound the tornado sirens. i talked to one resident about that and what this experience has been. like i want to play a little bit of how he described what happened here. >> we were -- just me and my brother were in the living room, taught watching tv. we were on our phones. we just saw hail, big hail hitting. we got up, we are just looking around, we're recording, he looks up and says, oh my god! a tornado! like, there's no way! i don't believe it until i saw. i look up, i see the debris spinning around. it's like a block away. i grabbed him and i take him to a bathroom and i, just close the door unlocked. it we got down. i was holding him. >>, the big question now is what rebuilding will look like.

that man you just heard from, he did not have insurance on his home. i am told that many people here don't have insurance. the sheriff says it is unlikely that this disaster is going to qualify for fema aid. until we know that the governor will be here in a few hours. we will be watching very closely to see what he has to say about the eight. and the resources to help this community rebuild. >> alex? >> tragic. okay, priscilla, thank you for that. michelle, let's take a look at the dangerous heat wave and where it is hitting. >> i, there, alex great to see, you we are stuck on repeat in terms of the. whether we are looking at severe heat once again. also the risk for severe weather as we go throughout the saturday. starting with the, heat we have heat alerts through texas, louisiana, also mississippi. we are looking at. millions under the threat of really dangerous heat. we have been tracking this all weeklong, that's where you get really taxing on your body, temperatures into the triple, digits factoring in the humidity, it feels like 1:15 in some spots. even 1:20. take a look at these numbers. 100 degrees today in san antonio. feeling more like 1:11. it's going to feel like 1:20 in

corpus christi, feeling like 1:12 in houston. this is where it becomes a big problem. because it is, hot but when it becomes hot for so many days, that is when, it gets really dangerous. so as we go throughout the, weekend early next, week we are going to stay with the triple digits. waco, 101 on monday, 102 on tuesday. houston, we're looking at 101 on tuesday as well. we are tracking the threat also for severe storms once again. thirsty -- 37 million people at risk. we are looking at really -- how that's gonna cause some damage. winds gusting 80 miles per. our that's hurricane-force winds. where you see the orange color, through parts of kansas and oklahoma, also texas, that's where the likeliest spot for the severe weather will take place. but notice all that, yellow all that slight risk from portions of the rockies into the southeast, we are tracking the threat for severe storms there as well. alex? >> we appreciate the heads up, take precautions where you can, everyone. thank, you michelle. a couple new paulette aches headaches for the president, more, maybe three of them in fact, might make them go. away that is ahead. away that is ahead. eodorant just has to work.

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democrats with a third party presidential run in 2020. for the group no labels has come under heavy criticism for plans to back a third party candidate, but now, one of the national chairs tells the organization will end its efforts if joe biden's way head next spring. back, with me robert, gibbs fara white house press secretary, and elise jordan, former aide to the george w. bush white house, state departments both mc political analyst. , elise this third-party business goes beyond no labels. but overall, how does the prospect of a third party affect the 2024 race? when >> you know, alex, just to, start you have to give no labels props. they've been around for over a decade. and what exactly do they do? they've managed to raise a lot of money. so you gotta give them props for. that i, near the third party, the bid is an organizational

challenging -- no labels is the only group that is pursuing ballot access. so the third party can actually be on the ballot. that's why they're more at the forefront at the talk about this. i don't think that a third party is great for joe biden, certainly, when he needs to get that sliver of 5% of voters in the anti trump republicans that propelled him into the office the last round. he won by a pretty narrow margin. this is gonna come down to about 100,000 votes and three key states response in pennsylvania and arizona. >> good point. we have progressive activists, robert cornell west, who first announced running for president with the people's party. now he's switching to the green party. he is addressing accusations of potentially being a spoiler in the election. take a listen. >> don't look to the weakest candidates as a full explanation as to why you lose.

did hillary clinton loss because she wasn't good candidate. the responsibility on the candidates who get the fewest votes compared to the other big, too it's just a way of rationalizing a two party system that has become more and more outdated and antiquated. >> we do you agree with? that i, mean in today's national politics, how big an impact is a third party candidate going to have to siphon votes from democrats and republicans, and is he gonna be on the ballot in 50 states? >> well, you just touched on it, and at least touched on. it the key is ballot access. if the green party, if cornell west is a nominee for the green party, and the green party is on the ballot in arizona, or wisconsin, or pennsylvania, then the impact could be significant. i mean, what cornell west is saying, there it doesn't appear to be all that versed in history. we don't have to go back far in the 2000 election, george bush

declared the winner of georgia by 537 votes. yet 97,000 people voted for ralph -- so it's a concern. >> right. there is a new poll, elise, vice president biden is leading the democratic primary field by 70%. kennedy junior, with 17, percent when it comes to favor, ability kennedy is viewed favorably by 49%, unfavourably hits 30, 45% see president biden favorably. 52% unfavourably. is rfk junior a legit primary threat to president biden? >> rfk junior has terrific name idea, just based on who he is. >> of course. >> the legacy he was born into. i think that the polling really reflects that more than him getting a serious look from democratic primary voters. >> what about what biden is saying, that he could lose the

first to 2020 for context are cajun, year and it's because iowa new hampshire in the polling primaries before south carolina, president biden will be on those ballots. if that would happen, how much does it matter? >> none. because if, again, it's not about votes and either of these primaries. it's how you accrue delegates. and if joe biden is not on the ballot, that the democratic party will sanction that state as awarding delegates in the contest. and therefore robert f. kennedy junior can do whatever he wants to into states with no delegates, and it will mean no difference. look, joe biden is still going to be the nominee of the democratic party. bobby kennedy junior is not going to be the nominee. , alex let's go back for a second though, with no labels, i think it's important for people to understand that the only impact that noble labels, and their nominee, could have in 2024 is