cajun, year and it's because iowa new hampshire in the polling primaries before south carolina, president biden will be on those ballots. if that would happen, how much does it matter? >> none. because if, again, it's not about votes and either of these primaries. it's how you accrue delegates. and if joe biden is not on the ballot, that the democratic party will sanction that state as awarding delegates in the contest. and therefore robert f. kennedy junior can do whatever he wants to into states with no delegates, and it will mean no difference. look, joe biden is still going to be the nominee of the democratic party. bobby kennedy junior is not going to be the nominee. , alex let's go back for a second though, with no labels, i think it's important for people to understand that the only impact that noble labels, and their nominee, could have in 2024 is too almost certainly

siphon votes away from the democrat and help elect a republican. and help potentially elect donald trump. if you go on their website, they suggest that they can get 37% of the popular vote. and 282 electoral votes. now, if you think that sounds a bit outlandish, they think they can win texas, florida, montana and illinois. that is delusional. the likelihood that that is going to happen is zero. they are spending millions and millions of dollars and all they are going to do is siphon votes, anti trump votes away from democrats. >> all, right, well nick is telling me we have to. go you have -- we've got to the top of the. our i appreciate you both. all of you, in just a few, minutes we're going to unpack these two headlines, with the journalist who cowrote them. the first is about the former presidents attachment to his boxes. the other is what one person

close to trump called an unforced error. trump rejected lawyers efforts to avoid -- indictment. here we, are a minute, late but we are wishing you a good day from msnbc headquarters in new york. alex witt reports. we begin this hour with president biden on the, move getting a close-up look at the site of the i-95 highway collapse in philadelphia. later this, afternoon he appears at his first big 2024 campaign event. we have a live report for you in just minutes. secretary of state, anthony, blinken also on the. move he will become the first secretary to visit china in five years. he will be in beijing for a high-level meeting with his chinese counterpart. that starts tomorrow. the meetings come after chinese leaders, rejecting, met yesterday with american philanthropist, bill gates. u.s. business leaders have been pressing for improved relations with china. also new this, our a call for healthy --

republicans to join democrats with discharge positions on gun control. we talk with lucy mcbath, vice chair of the gun prevention -- gun violence prevention tax force. -- >> the american public is sick and tired of being sick and tired. enough is enough. i cannot tell you how many survivors i talked to and work with every single day, it's the biggest concern that people have, young people, families, mothers, they have, they do not feel safe to live in this country. and so i'm hoping that my republican colleagues will join us in doing what is right, doing what we took an oath to do, to protect and serve our communities. >> and big developments in the department of justice, investigation into donald, trump the new york times supporting a new filing by prosecutors, and hence that ongoing investigations on charge individuals. the wall street journal said

today, well the mar-a-lago case is in the spotlight, jack smith is pushing ahead with the grand jury investigations into trump's efforts to reverse the 2020 election results. we are going to have more on the new trump headlines in just a moment. first, let's go to nbc,'s mike, mentally he's with the president in philadelphia. mike, your president biden is expected to speak in this rally in the next hour or so. what are you hearing so far today? >>, alex we are hearing from some union workers here talking about the presidents economic record. the politics has a time in a place, the first order of business for president biden here in philadelphia today is to get a firsthand look at the impact of the highway collapsed just last sunday. it really has snarled a major artery of i-95 and made life complicated for a lot of people here in philadelphia. while there was actually some news here, we heard in the immediate aftermath of that collapsed last week that it could take months for that section of highway to reopen. we -- who joined president biden today announced alongside the

president they announced that that highway will be reopened within the next 32 weeks. that is much much faster, much more ahead of schedule than anybody expected. even earlier this. week we also heard from president biden talking about the federal resources that have helped make this a reality we. >> on the ground, supporting pennsylvania officials to get the site cleared and to be able to start the rebuilding. the immediate release of $3 million is called quick release. i'm urgency. funds they were made to offset the cost of repairs. this is just a down payment, obviously. it's a lot more than that. we're going to be getting a lot more federal funding out the door in the coming. weeks we will be here until the end. we will not leave until it is finished. >> well, the president talking about how there is no more important infrastructure projects in the country right now than getting that piece of the highway reopened. it's a pivot to the messages he's going to bring here, as he speaks to it room full of union. workers this is an

unprecedented early and coordinated endorsement of some of the nation's largest labor unions behind president biden and vice president harris, and this is the best news. the other order of business, alex, i thought you'd want, to know today is the 46th wedding anniversary of the president first lady who is joining later today and they're gonna head to delaware to celebrate tonight as well as father's day tomorrow. >> oh, well if you get to talk to, them tell him i wish them both the best. that is a big. one goodwin. the two-week thing, are you kidding? may i don't know how engineering wise they're able to pull that. off but that is good if it happens. anyway, thank you so, much, mike coming, up now to the newest aspects of the case against former, president donald trump. the new york times reporting that federal prosecutors said in newly filed court papers that other criminal cases could potentially emerge from the investigation. and another from the washington post, with the revelation that trump rejected his lawyers efforts to avoid an indictment altogether by cutting a deal. joining me now is new york times washington correspondent,

michael schmidt, and washington post congressional investigations reporter, jackie alemany. it's good to see you both. appreciate the by lines on these articles. let's go with you first, michael. prosecutors said in court papers filed on friday that they are set to give trump's defense team evidence suggesting ongoing investigations that could identify uncharged individuals. this is part of the discovering process. can you comment on what those other inquiries might be? and whether they're related to the federal indictment against trump? >> so, we don't know. we know that in this investigation, the special counsel has looked at a conduct of a wide range of individuals. in the end, the special counsel settled on bringing an indictment against trump. and his valet, now, that does not mean that others in the investigation did not have criminal exposure. that doesn't mean that, like many other investigations, this could spawn other offshoots. so, in that sense, look, this

is a wide ranging investigation that is looked at a lot of different things. a lot of things could come out of. it in complex, high profile case, this is a pretty standard thing to happen. the government wants to be able to share the discovery, the evidence in the case. with the defense, so they can move the case forward, so they can move towards a speedy trial, but in the process, they are trying to protect it range of different matters that are the evidence, it can be personal, information, it can be in there from a range of things that subpoenas,, interviews search, warrants they have produced. it can include information, as you're pointing, out about other investigations. it can also include grand jury material, that legally has to be protected. so in many ways, this is standard, but as we will see going forward, in this investigation, every little thing is going to get a lot of

attention because of the stakes at hand. >> and michael, described in your times article, trump's apparent attachment to the boxes of documents that he took from the white house, that is driving the case. what are the arguments cited by his lawyers? the white house staff swept all documents from the presidents desk in other areas into boxes where they have presided over. since but your article, michael, reports prosecutors say facts undercut those arguments. how so? >> well, we talk about how in the indictments trump's said in the indictment to have had a hand in packing the boxes. so for some of, this trump's defense has been that it was all done by his aides, and these things were swept up and sent out the door. in a chaotic ending of the administration. but from the indictment, it appears that trump had much more of a hand in it then we thought, if you're listening to

trump's defense. on top of that, what we are talking about, boxes, when we look at the boxes, trump has been a -- for lack of a better term, a long time pack rat. this extended to his time in the white house, when he wanted to hold on two different documents that he thought, either made him look good, or dealt with the -- that he had. at the start early on in his administration. and it builds up and built up to the point that he would carry them around in boxes that would go with him. and this is while he was president. so the problem is, when you're not, president you cannot take those materials with. you and that is obviously at the heart of the entire indictment an investigation. >> indeed. so jacqui, your article says in the fall of 2022, when trump lawyer suggested to the former president that he cut a deal with doj. avoid charges by doing. so but trump rejected that. i mean, it seems inexplicable now, but what happened?

>> as my colleague josh dossier -- an unforced error as to why trump did not ultimately give back the boxes. he had numerous occasions to do so. ranging from when he left office, up until really mid year last year before the justice department issued a may subpoena, asking for the boxes back. he still could have then returned everything he obviously misled his lawyers, and advisers, about giving all classified documents and being responsive to that subpoena. until the august search warrant that was executed by the fbi at mar-a-lago. but i think this does speak to the article that michael and his colleagues worked on, you've been reporting on repeatedly, since really last, year trump had this attachment to these boxes. he even, throughout his presidency, would carry his boxes everywhere.

it was his filing system. he would go on trips, the aides made sure they carried the ox is that he requested from his residence to air force one. he continue to do that when he left office, traveled obviously back and forth from his summer home, his winter home in florida, mar-a-lago, to bedminster, new jersey, with these boxes. and he personally packed them himself. he had this internal organizing system. and he rejected advice from lawyers and advisers who repeatedly advised him to cooperate with not just the national archives, but the justice department and he declined to do so we. >> the article also said, he told, people don't look through my boxes. he did one anyone looking through. them where they aware that there could have been classified documents there? do you think they believe donald trump if he said they weren't? is there any sense of? that's >> a good question.

not necessarily something i can answer. it is unclear who exactly knew what was in the contents of those boxes. even now, there is really only a very small limited number of people who still know what was in those boxes because of just how classified they were. and trump was very secretive and possessive over them. it doesn't appear that any of his aides really extensively went through all of. them we know that his aide who was charged as a coconspirator by the justice department last week, that 49-page indictment, carried at least over 60 boxes back and forth between trump storage room and his residents. before, then taking 30 more back to the storage room as outlined in that indictment. but it doesn't appear that he himself looked through the boxes either. so that is a good question, especially as the justice department is probably trying

to answer the question of who exactly has seen this top secret, extremely classified document. >> michael, it's been a few days since tuesday. miami court appearance, are we getting any sense of don trump psyche at the time? he's at least one reports suggest he is alarmed at what he saw on the indictment. we >> look, i think donald trump is someone that thought that he could always out-run accountability. and situations like the one that he found himself in. he was extremely successful at doing this. as a businessman, in new york, he was president, he was able to be protected by the fact that president of the united states cannot be indicted. and by the fact that congress was controlled at different times enough by his party if that had extreme loyalty to him. and he has been stripped of all of those protections, now that he is a former president, he

does not control the justice department. he does not control who runs the justice department. he can be indicted as a former president, and now he has been indicted twice. and there is an investigation and at least two other matters. one by the special counsel, and one in georgia. so the week -- he is facing consequences that he's never faced before. at the same time, we have seen throughout his entire career, he has an ability to get out of things that no other politician would think they could get out of. so, look, he has immense criminal problems right now. but as we've seen in the poll numbers, they came out, about the republican primary, for the party's nomination for president, he still is far away enough that he's the leading candidate in that area. so a lot of some real criminal issues. but politically, he seems to

still have a hold on his base. >> indeed, that is for sure. in the article you wrote about jackie and whether not he would flip on the president. you quote former trump lawyer, ty calk, saying not as a genuine person who is service oriented, he would be shocked if's trump said ten words a day to. him to have the words not in trump's vocabulary, thank you, what is the sense of the relationship? >> these are people who have come extremely close over the course of the service. as we go into walt's biography, in that, piece this is someone who is serving the president of the united states and then becoming the personal aide to the former president of the united states. one of the greatest honors of his life, and a job in a position that might have never been possible. he comes from humble beginnings,

in guam, was in culinary services in the navy, and then went to the white house where he served as a military valet before ultimately moving with trump down to mar-a-lago. he is essential to trump's day-to-day life. that was clear on tuesday when the judge had asked that trump not communicate with the people who had been mentioned in the case witnesses, and nada, again, who is a coconspirator. and you had todd blanche, trump's lawyer, say that's not possible. these people are, again, necessary to a former president being able to go about his daily activities. and his life. it was definitely a bit jarring to see nada -- continue to play body meant to trump will also appearing himself before the judge. >> coconspirator. >> michael schmidt, jackie,

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event. folks over here in the food tent are getting ready to consume some food. hundreds of pounds of lamb fritters will be eaten today. and governor desantis is the headliner at this event. here is why this really matters, alex, this is his second trip to the state this year. but his first as a candidate, former president, trump, himself has not actually traveled to the state yet, and yesterday we were with him at an event, at a veterans post and a rodeo. and he has really gotten away from his standard podium style speech. here he is starting to engage with voters in the more retail style of politics that we haven't seen that much of from him yet. i want you to take a look one moment that he had with some of the veterans yesterday, take a look. >> and anybody want a draft on the house? here we go.

i will tell you what, let's do a toast. thank you for your service. >> thank you, sir. >> now, nevada is a very heavy trump state. a lot of trump support here. but, alex, there is heavy investment from desantis and from the political group supporting him in ground game in this state and early states. they are putting their feet to the pavement, sending outdoor knock, or's flyers, engaging with the local republicans here. they are really investing in the field operation in a massive way. $100 million in ground game in the first 18 states through super tuesday. and the operation is massive. the experts that i talked to say it's like nothing they've ever seen. now whether that's going to make the difference, it remains to be seen, alex. >> okay, can i just say, what's on the menu there my friend? i'm so caught up a pescatarian. it brought it'll back and i thought, okay, i'm doing okay. thank you.

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and move this stuff out of the way. you also have folks working to dig through the rubble and find things that they can save, we've passed a lot of homes for the 6 to 8 people working on any given home trying to sort of clear out this destruction. and residents here say that this coming together is really what is going to help them to get through this. and again, to move forward, we spoke to one woman who is from, here she was volunteering trying to hand out food and things like that earlier today. about this, recovery effort, a lot of play a little bit of what she had to say. >> when i heard the tornado hit, like, it made me sad to see my hometown torn up. but i knew that the people here would be taking care of me, because perinton is a great community. and great people, i knew the surrounding communities would be here to help, and so i wasn't worried about the people. like, i knew they'd be taken care of. >> and, so a cleanup is really under control here.

but there is a question about, what will come next? and what revealed it will look like, and what resources will be there and of course the other concern, not only here, but across the, country is the severe weather that we are seeing. with regards to severe storms, they are coming through from colorado, to florida, you also here in texas have triple digit -- some cities here are going to be seeing record high temperatures, we know that the governor is going to be here in perinton in less than an hour. he is expected to tour the damage, talk about this damage, but also we will see what he has to say about the severe heat, and just the resources that are going to be coming to help this city rebuild. and also to prepare the rest of the state for any potential issues, particularly with the power grid as we're dealing with this extreme heat. >> i know you've been listening very carefully. thank you so. much we appreciated, priscilla. coming up, next the question, how do you want a trial -- without revealing any national secrets. two experts a national security

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trump classified documents case. the new york times reports a new filing shows doj prosecutors hinting at uncharged persons, indicating other cases could potentially emerge. a new motion shows trump's defense team are complying with an order from trial. judge aileen cannon applying for security clearances

required to review classified documents in the case. joining me now, mark, sane attorney and managing partner at mark -- he's a expert at national security law and represents federal employees, intelligence, military officers as well as whistleblowers. brian greer, former attorney and cia's office of general counsel, brian is now one of only a few private sector experts in espionage act prosecutions. high hopes for this conversation. mark, your first, from your knowledge of the security clearance application process. do you see any hurdles ahead for members of trump's defense team? >> well, most of the information we obviously don't know. i don't know if any of the lawyers -- have relatives or criminal background. which i doubt. but there could be prior drug, use perhaps? we do know that one of the lawyers did or still does represent foreign government

officials. that, of course, would be part of the consideration under the adjudicated guidelines to determine whether or not they would get access to classified information. it may be that certain documents are off limits to one or more of the council. or it may be that arrangements have to be made, or activities have to cease. if they drop the foreign client, that would be one way to mitigate the situation. >> oh, what does it -- how does it work in the courtroom with classified documents when they become evidence? does the judge already have security clearance and does the jury ever get to see the document? >> well, the judges don't make clearances, and neither do the jurors. but what normally happens in a case like this is the government would use something called the silent witness rule. that's a technique that was developed where you have a crime that occurred, but the classified information hasn't been exposed publicly. so with the government tries to do in those cases is take the document, show it to the jury only, have testimony about that document, in generalities, going through paragraph by

paragraph with the jury through the document. explaining why it's national defense information,. but not show that document to the public. that is when -- traditional espionage cases, other mishandling. cases will the justice department be able to use it here? i think they will try to use it. given that there were 31 very sensitive documents charged in this case. the question, is will judge cannon uphold it and will the government appeal? that lastly, what is the governments fallback strategy to a plan b set of documents if it's not successful? >> but again, the jury can see this? they can't discuss it, right? but what happens if they do? >> they would be admonished not to discuss it publicly. but it's part of our justice system, we have to trust them. the government still has to, under our constitution, -- all the elements of the statute. trump is still gonna be allowed to put on his defense. his constitutionally entitled to. it but that we will trust the jurors and the judge to do the right thing. and not share these documents further. >> here's what the defenses, for trump faces 31 counts of

willful retention and national defense information. here's what the document says when they executed this search warrant in mar-a-lago. in trump's office, 26 documents, six of which were top secret. three were confidential. you look at the storage, room 75 documents, 11 top secret, 36, secret 28 confidential. as someone who has defended cases like this, mark, what did the details tell you? >> it tells me these are very serious informations. in fact, one of the documents is charged with 31. the government could have put all of this in one count under the espionage act, there also could have been 300 or so accounts for each of the classified documents. they chose 31 for a reason. you have heard probably some aspects of the goldilocks documents. they are not too sensitive, but they are not not so sensitive. meaning they are somewhere in the middle. the information could be sacrificed if necessary. maybe it has been overtaken by

events. particularly because as brian said, the jurors are gonna see this information without clearances. but one of the documents is called we under formerly restricted. data it's an energy -- under the atomic energy act. it's information pertaining to new secrets that even the president of the united states, the sitting president, cannot declassify. by statute only the secretary of energy, and their designation, can declassify. that so even if trump could magically argue, which he won't be able to, that he declassified all of these documents. you can declassify that one document. >> mark, when you say this is, serious obviously by the description you have offered, even about one document, it's extremely serious. it's also serious because of the volume of documents. >> sure, anytime a volume, most of these parallel cases, and there are very few, quite

frankly, where individuals have been prosecuted, it has been because of volume. harold martin, who was sentenced to nine years in prison for -- terabytes of classified records at his home in maryland. most times, when i have a client who has mishandled classified information, it is a small number of documents, it is dealt with administratively through their security clearance. or termination from employment. but obviously this gets tied into the lengthy process where trump refused to turn over the records, the need to have execution of a search warrant. and that all combines into the reason why these cases were prosecuted. and i will finish with saying, it's so serious with some of these documents that some of the compartments that these documents came from is redacted. so we don't even know which compartment they were in. >> brian, with the take away with the breakdown, how does the intelligence community

decide which documents get used? you see them talking about redactions. how common is? that is that a specific demand they can make? >> yes, one question would be, when we talked about earlier, would the silent witness rubio so they don't have to be exposed publicly at all? stepping back, from that they would see surgical reductions, potential to remove the most sensitive details from the documents. they're ultimately going to be worried about making sure human sources aren't exposed. i think that's the top priority. that sensitive ongoing collective methods aren't exposed. one thing people have been ignoring, is there's probably a lot of information in those documents that is provided by foreign governments, that, there are probably the number one source of information. we don't want to harm those ongoing relationships because they still provide us some of our most important information. we don't want to not only cut off that human source, but we don't want to cut off that flow of information from those foreign governments. they're going to try to minimize all of that by the trial. >> i want to read what larry five, for former cia chief of

staff said, he's quoted in saying in an article on the hill, here it is. he says, quote, as a guy who spent 32 years working to create and produce this intelligence for our national policy makers, it was nauseating to see somebody who served as our commander-in-chief as our president treat this material so recklessly. seeing the photographs and boxes on ballroom stages and bathrooms next to it or, let's build out on the, floor because of his carelessness, just made me sick. look, he's a former cia attorney, brian, does the square with what you are hearing from your former colleagues? >> yeah, i mean, everyone is still joe dropped at how recklessly they handled this information. every one of the cia knows how much effort and sacrifice this created. not only from u.s. government officials, but from the foreign partners. like i talked, about the foreign sources who put their lives on the line to collect this information. and then to see it handled like that is i think truly nauseating for most of them. >> mark, you have a sense of how long it's going to take to get this to trial? >> well, that is the 64,000

dollar question. i think the legal strategy of the trump team is going to be to delay delay delay to get this passed in the 2024 election. it is in trump's interest to do so, because obviously, if he can prevail in the election, a federal case goes away. . he will be in charge of the justice department. there will be a lot of pretrial motions, particularly in the classified sphere. this is where judge cannon, in taking little steps, can have a significant length the impact, depending on how long that process takes and as bryan mentioned, some of these cases, for some of the decisions can be immediately appealed up to the 11th circuit as well. so there are a lot of factors that will come to play. but don't expect this to be going to trial anytime soon. no matter what they say. >> i interpret that as meaning mark sane and bryan will -- thank you, good to see both. >> coming up later, full of pride, despite a volatile political climate. but, first promising signs that

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double sided. a dual tier justice system, they say. they continue to defend the former president, especially in the house under the leadership of speaker mccarthy who has the really allow the chairman of the powerful judiciary committee the powerful oversight committee jim jordan and comer, expected, lead to continue to investigate the biden family. investigating claims that the biden family including then vice president, joe biden, was involved in some illegal foreign interference scheme. it has not been proven. that is what they spend their time. doing i should note that there are some republicans who are not defending with the former president did in harboring these classified documents. they are questioning why exactly president biden is not being charged in the same fashion. despite the fact that those two cases are very, very, different. you actually spoke to a democrat who sits on the oversight committee who of course, is the minority to the republicans who are leading these investigations. here's what she told you. >> i need people to see the

hypocrisy that is continually permeating this party. honestly, if you are a real republican. an old school republican you should be offended. say hey i want nothing to do with this. this is not the republican party. this is something completely different. this is far reaching. it is definitely tearing us apart. >> especially in the senate, but also in the house we did hear from different factions of republicans. moderates some on the hard right in some of it more to the left saying that they cannot have an indicted felon potentially, in the white house. trying to distance themselves from the former president. certainly, all in all, they continue to call out this dual sided dual teared system of justice, they say. saying the former president and the former president cases, are the same. they will continue to investigate them at least in the house where they have control. >> julie tsirkin. thank you so.

much we look forward to seeing you again tomorrow. for all of you, this breaking news, president biden is right there in philadelphia. specifically at the pennsylvania convention center. he is addressing the afl-cio constitutional convention. we are monitoring what he says in the control booth. we will bring you the best parts of that in just a little bit. let's go now to good news on the economic front. inflation rate dropping to its lowest level since 2021. the latest consumer price index shows u.s. inflation fell to 4%. nearly 1% drop from this time last month. let's go to nbc's marissa parra who is in alexandria virginia. i know you have spent the day talking to consumers there. are they smiling? are they feeling a change in their wallets? >> the short answer is yes and no. we will talk first about the differences in prices we are seeing. some of those items that are coming down the most as we walk past the refrigerated items here are your breakfast. items bake in that has taken in nosedive of 10%. look at some of the other items

on your screen that we are also seeing big changes in eggs. that is something that has been a big topic of conversation, we know. that is the sharpest nosedive in price that we've seen for eggs and over half a century. also, whole. milk the prices of citrus fruits. tomatoes. when it comes to what shoppers are saying, really, what we are hearing and seeing here is that is welcome news. this new report is good news. really, unless we are seeing the changes on the receipt, they are not celebrating quite yet. >> i have noticed a. in fact i noticed just the opposite. prices seem to be up high and staying high. the numbers may be saying something, but i'm not noticing it when i shot. >> i don't know that they've gone up. but they've been at a standstill. things have gone back down. >> you feel that? >> still expensive. outdoor equipment cars, rent. we all know that one. listen, in terms of the prices a sharp decrease from 9% last

summer, alex. still welcome news. some good news is any good news, ray? >> absolutely. listen, it's at least a bit of a smile. thank you so much for that information. for all of you we will take you back to president biden again, addressing this big union rally. it is his first really, official rally of the 2024 presidential campaign season. let's take a listen here in philadelphia. >> think about this in the literal sense if this room didn't show up to work tomorrow, monday, the whole country would come to a grinding halt! tell me who matters more in america? folks, i'm looking forward to this campaign. i want you to know why. we have a story to tell. we have a record to run on. most importantly we are not only change in this country, we are transforming it. think back, remember what it was like when i came into

office. when we came into offense. remember the mess been heritage. the pandemic was raging. think about this, i mean this sincerely. this is not a campaign speech. this is a speech about the future of this country. the economy was reeling. 3 million people hadn't been fully vaccinated. supply chains were broken. businesses are shutting down. schools were closed. cars, or member cars? not just old jelani's but modern colors, new cars, were lined up for miles and miles just to get a box of food put in the back of their car for families. our allies in europe and around the world heard the last president saying a foreign policy was america first. for the first time since the second world war our friends begin to wonder if the united states could be relied on. now look at where we are today. a united nato, and never been united in such a way before.

it is a wonder. we created 13 million new jobs since i became president. that is more jobs in a little over two years than any president has created in a four-year term. the autumn planet rain is down to a nearly 50 year low. i've seen record lows for black and hispanic unemployment as well. we have created 800,000 manufacturing jobs. you heard me say before, where in god's name is it written that america can lead the world again in manufacturing? inflation has come down 11 months in a row. it's gonna continue to come. down today it was less than half of what it was one year ago folks this didn't just happen. we made it happen. you, i mean it sincerely. you guys. did i came to office with a

theory and a plan. it's very was this. please listen. i want you to listen to this. it was time to hand the trickle down economic theory. the wealthy do well, we all do well. 40 years of handing out excessive tax cuts to the wealthy and big corporation it's been a bust. democrats as well as republicans dna. all of it, all it had done was hollow out the middle class. blow up the deficit. ship jobs overseas. strip the dignity, pride, and hope out of the community, one after another all across america's factory shut down. i'm pretty sure you saw in your homes. i saw in mine. not a lot of trickle down for my parents kitchen table when i was growing up. we are changing. we decided to replace this theory is what they call biden economics. i don't know what the heck that is, but it is working.

let me tell you what it's about. it's about building an economy, literally. not figuratively. the bottom up, middle out. not top down. when the middle class does well then everybody does well. >> all right, everybody. we are going to listen to the president a little further. right now, as we are monitoring in the control booth, i do want to bring in my new guest. there is a new study by glad. it is on social media safety for lgbtq users. it gives five major platforms. facebook, instagram, tiktok, youtube and twitter low-end or failing scores. glad calling on the platforms to take responsibility for their ineffective policies that create a dangerous environment for lgbtq users. joining me now is glad ceo president, sarah kate ellis. sarah, i'm glad to have you here. this is the problem this is a new. glad gave the platforms a failing guard at lgbtq users online harassment last year.

first of all explain how you quantified the scores and how these platforms continue to fail in protecting lgbtq people. n protecting lgbtq people thank you for having me. yes this is the third year in a row that they're all failing. however i will say, we have seen incremental improvement i think we are just helping them stop role really far back. what i mean by that is i think if we weren't holding them accountable, they wouldn't care. they are wired to make money. monetizing hate and vitriol. that is their business model, actually. trying to get them to do the right thing has been incredibly hard. the ramifications at this house on society on human rights, is extraordinary. you can draw a direct line from what happens and manifest likes the cancer, online. it metastasizes and, before you

know where, off line there are violent threats against our community. attacks against our community. i'm glad we have counted over 160 violent acts, or threats of violence, against lgbtq events in just the past year. to put that into perspective for you, alex, we never counted that in the past because we haven't needed to count it. we didn't recognize it as an issue in the past. but what happens is these people. they are fringe people but they organize online. they stir up hate. >> let me focus on twitter specifically because glad's score card has called twitter the most dangerous platform for lgbtq people. attacks there have increased substantially since elon musk took over twitter last far. in fact, it is the only platform who scores got worse year over year. you mentioned that there is

incremental improvement on some of them. presumably being the other ones but what is it about twitter? what is going on at twitter? >> there is incremental improvement on all of them except for twitter. they did statistically significant progress. what is really sad here is that twitter actually used to be the leader. we sat on their trust and safety counsel. elon musk has turned twitter into a weapon against the lgbtq community. he leads the charge. i mean literally leads the charge tweeting out anti-trans rhetoric. misinformation about the trans community, and the lgbtq community. when you have the head honcho leading the charge and having all of his disciples falling into place behind him, around misinformation, what really

triggered twitter losing their status. or for going back, is because they took away safety precautions for the trans communities. for misgendering folks on their platform. they went and they took it all away. it had been working really well. it is really unfortunate. states have proposed more bills targeting lgbtq than any other time in u.s. history. the aclu is tracking 141 anti-lgbtq state laws across the country. so far we have 19 states having passed laws restricting gender-affirming treatment to minors. which states have enacted laws that you see is being particularly alarming in dangerous? texas and florida are really leading the