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dangerous circumstances. we saw a tweet from prince william, where he basically acknowledge the fact that this was a difficult day. this was difficult circumstances to be in. he thanked them, because it was hot. now today, we also saw a guards woman. she did faint in the procession, it's unclear as to why, because the temperatures were a lot cooler today than they were last weekend. but again, you've got these warm uniforms that they wear. so it is possible that that could've been the weather as well. >> that must have been pretty troubling for the soldiers that were watching that happen, seeing the footage, the video of people rushing out after someone had fainted. pretty troubling to see. megan fitzgerald, as always, we thank you. that wraps up for me everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian, i will be back in the chair tomorrow. simone starts now. greetings everyone.
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you are watching symone. president joe biden holding true to his words, the south declared union man spoke to labor groups and philadelphia today. for his first rally of the 2020 campaign -- is not on the campaign trail this weekend. but he still getting a lot of attention anyway, after being arraigned on a criminal indictments in a florida courtroom this week. some of the republicans vying for the nomination even saying they will pardon him if elected. what kind of strategy is that? plus, juneteenth, we are marking the third anniversary of the federal holiday with a special at the national museum of african american history and culture. i spoke to director kevin young, we unpacked the significant events, people, and places that led to june 19th, 1865 and what we now commemorate as a big federal holiday juneteenth. i'm simone sanders townsend, and i have something to say.
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another busy week to discuss. it started with the former president appearing in court for his second criminal indictment. this time on federal charges, and it is ending with the current president hitting the campaign trail. but that is not all that is happening. from republican -- tornadoes in texas, and catastrophic bridge collapsing in philadelphia, another plea for gun safety reform, the list goes on. we are going to get into a lot of it today. starting, with the 2024 presidential race. president biden hit the campaign trail in earnest for the first time today, speaking at a rally to union members in philadelphia, where he touted his labor record. >> we're beginning to make things again. with american workers, american products. manufactured in american
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plants. under my plan, we're creating jobs at home and exploiting products abroad. billion jobs. >> the president is embarking on this effort as candidates who aren't viable options, a primary challenge like -- the labels is a bipartisan group that is talking about getting a unity candidate on the ballot in 2024. it's an effort it's leaders say will drop if biden gets far enough ahead with by next spring. that's insane. for so many reasons. chief among them that there won't be a republican nominee by next spring. if they really believe that there needs to be a third party option, they should start early to build an infrastructure in the state. they should commit to the long term organizing that's necessary to elect candidates from the mayor's office, the state legislators, the congress, and yes, the white house. but they haven't done yet. i commend the projects
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commitment to ideological representation, but the execution lacks strategy, and it could have damaging consequences. but folks, these are the facts. the democrats, they will not facilitate a competitive primary process because that is what happens when the sitting president decides to run for reelection. president biden will be the many. on the other side of the aisle, there is an active primary with a growing field of republican candidates, which most recently, welcome to miami mayor -- now, national polls, they point to former president donald trump as the clear front runner. but national polls, they mean as much to a presidential primary as quantum physics means to a squirrel. i mean, nothing. because presidential primaries, they are a marathon. they are one state by state, delegate by delegate, and that is where your attention should be. what's more, trump does lead right now, but will it hold in the first primary states? we are two months away from the first debate, and seven months from the first ballots being
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cast. the point is, a lot could change and that goes double for when the front runner is under multiple unresolved criminal investigations. and as of last week, a federal indictment. that indictment has led us to a once on think-able moment. republican candidates vying for the oval office defending of former presidents lies, connected to his violation of the espionage act specifically for the willful retention of national defense information. some of the candidates, including miss morris and nikki haley, have even suggested that they would pardon trump if elected. donald trump's closest rival, florida rival ron desantis, he is campaigning in nevada today, and he hasn't promised a pardon, but blast what he calls a weaponization of the justice department. here though is what former vice president mike pence had to say to nbc's chuck todd about whether he'd commit to a trump pardon if elected. in a press interview that will be out tomorrow. >> i just think the question is,
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it's premature. i don't know why some of my competitors, some in the republican primary, presume the president will be found guilty. look, all we know is what the president has been accused of in the indictment. we don't know what his defense is, we don't know if this will even go to trial. it could be subject to a motion to dismiss. we don't know what the verdict will be. >> again, a lot has happened this week. so we are going to start unpacking it all, with my political panel. lady avengers assemble. ashley pratte oates is an nbc contributor, maria teresa is an nbc contributor and president and ceo of voto latino, and catherine christian it is an nbc legal analyst and former assistant legal attorney for the manhattan d.a.'s office. welcome to you all lady avengers. maria teresa, i'm gonna start with you. biden's on the campaign trail, he kicked off this first rally
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of the season after being endorsed by 17 labor unions -- to endorse in that manner. also this early. how can the president and his campaign turn those endorsements into voters? because we know that endorsements do not equal votes. >> as someone who used to work on a campaign, you would've been thrilled when you heard the news. but this is allowing the president to do is identify the -- early, so that they can go on the ground and start communicating the legislation that he has passed. because voters went out. oftentimes they say my vote doesn't matter. the reason why we have almost half a billion dollars in infrastructure and in manufacturing is because they voted, someone like biden who understands. -- is because they voted, and biden delivered. and so this is an opportunity for him to shore his base and start communicating almost 18 months early. ah know that that never happens.
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we are talking about tens of thousands of people right now tuning in and fanning out and saying i'm going to talk to you, and i'm going to engage with you, because i officially can in my capacity as a union worker. >> this could make a defense for the presidents campaign, actually. what is your take on the effort by no labels? i've shared my thoughts, what are yours? >> so, interestingly enough, in 2016 i worked as the communications director for better for america, which was very similar to this. i had very high hopes for that, and it fizzled and fans out and it digs -- did exactly what is going to happen here, which is elect donald trump. there is no way that this helps the biden campaign, and there's only ways in which this helps the trump campaign. so despite the rhetoric that's out there right now from their strategist, saying that hey, this is not meant to help him in any way, it does. and it only splits the vote from those who were disaffected republicans, such as myself. i finally got off that train of hoping for a third party and realized that the best thing
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that we can do, and exactly why i voted for joe biden in 2020, is get behind joe biden. so, i really think here there is a lot to be said for that disaffected republicans. and joe biden, to the points that were just made, has been a president for all americans. that's exactly what he campaigned on. he has passed bipartisan legislation, he has been able to negotiate using the senate as a negotiating skill that he has, that i think this country desperately needs to move forward. so, while they can go out there and say that we need bipartisanship, and the democrats and republicans need to come together, joe biden is that guy. he is that president. and he is showing that time and time again. that infrastructure bill? he went out there -- >> i had a thing on the infrastructure bill later in the show, given that -- don't spoil it. given the collapse of i-95. i guess my last point on no labels for today would be,
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there is a segment of folks out there, i pooh-pooh the no labels effort which i stand by, but there is a segment out there, a lot of them young people, who are just affected by the two party process and what do you say to those folks, maria teresa? >> what's interesting is that most young people are increasingly saying, i want to have agency. i want to register to vote as an independent. but when you pull them, what do they care about? they care about climate, they care about rights over your body, they care about lgbtq, they care about gun reform. they are aligned with the progressive democratic party. and the fact of the unions can go back into these communities and say register as independent, because we want to fight for your vote, you are aligned very much with progressive values and this is how they are delivering. >> they will make the case. >> they will make the case. but i think that something that we should challenge -- because it's not just that they're trying to bring in a third party, they are going to siphon limited resources at a moment when the democrats and the progressive -- are going to need those
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resources, because there is another beast in the room that no one wants to talk about, simone, and that is the disinformation campaigns that are waiting in the wings, not just from the right, but from the foreign actors. and that is what concerns me when i see someone say, i'm going to look kind of cute right now and jump into the game, when in fact, we have democracy on the line and the biggest -- what concerns me the most, is that no one's talking about the disinformation and deepfakes that we can expect from nefarious actors. >> this is something we're going to continue to stay on throughout, because i think you all make a very poignant and important points. they've got a ballot access program. i want to turn to trump's legal troubles, because they are significant, to say the least, catherine. they -- he is now under federal indictment. 37 felony counts, 31 of those which are under the espionage act. donald trump is attacking
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special counsel jack smith, this is right in line with what he did in attacking manhattan d.a. alvin bragg. he's got a lot of frequent and misinformation out there about his power to declassified documents. how can all of that effect not just the federal case, but multiple other potential cases against him? >> well, this is his tactic. the only thing that's different between jack smith -- he hasn't called him a racist or an animal. he saved that for alvin bragg and sandy willis, who are black. and laetitia james who is also black. so, this is his tactic. don't look at me, look at the horrible prosecutors. i think every time he speaks, there should be a disclaimer. he miss speaks about the presidential records act, he is saying that this applies to him. it doesn't apply to him. the presidential records act clearly states that official documents have to be returned to the national archives upon the presidents departure from office. and, in no way, nowhere in the
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universe, could a department of defense top secret documents about a plan of attack, be considered personal. that is clearly an official document. he misspeaks about what he is charged with. even if he -- it's interesting that vice president pence talked about how it's premature for these republicans to be talking about pardon. he is right. they are already assuming that mr. trump is going to be found guilty. and it should be noted that a pardon is not an exoneration. so it's very interesting that they're all talking about a pardon. so, he is deflecting away and let's just trash the witnesses, let's just trust the pewter prosecutors. that's the strategy. >> that's why you are the legal expert. i couldn't have said it better. before i let you go, i have to ask you about this indictment of daniel penny. daniel penny, for folks out there, he was the subway rider who is chokehold resulted in
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the death of jordan neely in manhattan. he was charged with manslaughter, he was not charged with murder. catherine, what should folks take away from that particular charge, and what are some key elements to consider or that people should look out for as this case heads to trial? >> well, it's interesting. he was indicted, it's unclear what the charges are because they're sealed. one can assume that it's records manslaughter, which in new york law is considered manslaughter in the second degree, which is that he was aware of and consciously disregarded the respect of could've her. he was also charged with criminal negligent homicide, which is that you failed to perceive that this risk of death should occur. the next step is that he's going to be arraigned on that indictment in two weeks, and then we will hear -- there will be a trial date, and he's going to assert again that he was righteous and doing this in self-defense. it appears that he did not testify to the grand jury.
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we can anticipate that if there is a trial, he will testify. >> we will leave it there. catherine christian, thank you. ashley pratte oates, maria teresa, thank you very much. coming up, texas has taken the assault on democracy, will actually diversity, equity, and inclusion, which is all democracy, to an entirely new level. a new law just signed by governor abbott will have a chilling effect on students and staff at every public college and university in america's second largest state. i'm talking to a state legislator who says that texas is on the wrong side of history. and president biden, he has a birds eye view of the collapsed stretch of interstate 95 in philadelphia today. i will take into how that disaster demonstrates why investing in americas infrastructure is an urgent priority. but first, your bestie, my bestie, our bestie is here. our colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. >> through a good afternoon to. some of the stories we're watching for you, a tornado
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destroying the town of perry-ton in the texas panhandle -- more than 50 people injured. the cities far she said a trailer park took a direct hit. texas governor ordering the division of emergency management to send aid there. the minneapolis police department faces a possible major overhaul. three years after the death of george floyd, a 92-page justice department report released this week finds a police department there uses excessive force, unlawfully discriminates against black and native american people, and deploys dangerous tactics and weapons against people who committed minor offenses. that police chiefs -- and vladimir putin says ukraine's counteroffensive has no chance. this is after ukraine's president, vladimir zelenskyy, told nbc news reports from the front lines were positive but difficult. we will join mark miley saying this week, the world will take
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but according to alternating republican leaders, those dei and initiatives should be illegal. republican governor of texas greg abbott has signed espy 17 into law. now, this is a bill that bans dei offices from state funded colleges and universities. yes. it also restricts accounting, diversity, into hiring decisions. none, and it even prohibits diversity training unless required by federal law. and this is not the first or second state to ban d e i offices. florida was the first, and according to the best colleges website, at least 18 other states have introduced similar legislation. so more are expected to follow. but, we've got somebody who is an expert to discuss this. democratic state representative ron reynolds. he's also the chair of the texas legislative black caucus. representative, welcome. thank you for being here. i want to start our conversation by actually reading a statement from your colleague and the sponsor of this anti-dei bill, republican
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state senator brandon creighton. he said, the days of political oaths, compelled speech, and racial profiling in university hiring are behind us. moving forward, texas will prioritize the advancement of the most qualified individuals and endorsed policies that promote diversity and equality for our great state. your response, sir? >> well simone, it's great to be on with you. in the spirit of what you do, i'm going to speak to power. these are republican leaders that are using black and brown people as political pawns for the extreme maga base. this is a solution -- texas has more african americans than any other state in the country. they're comfortable with us running footballs and scoring touchdowns on their football fields, and slamming basketballs, or hurdling and jumping on track and field, but they don't want us in the classroom and the boardroom. so this is nothing more than extreme partisan politics, and
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this is what is currently wrong with this country. but this is the post trump era that we live in. >> you have pointed to the ends of -- the travel advisory that they issued about florida, when opposing this legislation, have you heard from anyone at the end of laci p about whether there are similar efforts being considered now that this bill has passed in texas? >> well, simone, i love texas. i'm a proud texan, but i'm very disappointed with the extreme politicization of this bill. and really targeting black and brown and lgbtq communities. i have took it -- spoken with state president gary, and him and i sent a joint letter to the nba, the nfl, and the wnba saying you might want to consider coming to texas. because this is before the bill passed. and since this bill passed, we talked, and i told him that i think president johnson needs to do a similar travel advisory for texas. texas is on the wrong side of
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history. they're embracing white supremacy, they're embracing the notion that again, it's okay for athletes but we don't want them in the classroom. we don't want them professors in our colleges and universities. and they're doing everything in their power to take us back to dark days. and, we stand as we embrace juneteenth on freedom because of the sacrifices from my ancestors. but these are people that are hell-bent on taking us back. they want to do it through voter suppression, and they want to do everything they can to extreme -- to support their extreme maga base by disenfranchising and black and brown communities. >> so, i want to be very clear, representative. you support a ban on travel advisory, which essentially some have argued the texas advisory, part of me, the florida advisory has resulted in instituting a boycott of florida by black people. you say that you support that same protest measure in texas. >> absolutely, i symone. enough is enough. enough of being used, laughing
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when it's not funny and scratching when there's no itch. it's time to hit them in the pocket books. that is the only way that there are going to try to reverse course on some of these policies. governor abbott called a special session. we need to have a special session to undo the harm that he's done to black and brown and lgbtq communities. they are doing everything for these culture wars, but nothing about gun reforms. giving teachers adequate pay, addressing climate change, and so many other issues that most texans care about. they really seem to only use us as political pawns for their extreme, right-wing base. and i hope that the voters of texas are saying enough is enough. i do believe it's time for extreme measures, because this is an extreme bill, and i would fully support -- issuing a travel ban to my state until the governor and the lieutenant governor and the republicans in charge reversed course and stop using black and brown communities as political pawns. we are not your pawns, we will
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not lay down and surrender. we need to fight and we need to continue to speak truth to power, so this doesn't continue to happen on our watch. our -- has fought to heart -- without any kind of repercussions. now it's time to hit them in the pocket books. >> state representative, i think it's safe to say that texas legislative caucus has something to say, sir. you have a message, i know that the president of -- i will get him on the line and see what we can find out about our travel advisory. thank you so much for your time this weekend, and happy juneteenth to you sir. >> thank you symone. thank you. >> all right folks. how do you go on offense for democracy? it's a question that's more important now than ever, especially after january 6th. coming up, i'm talking with the man who literally wrote the book on saving democracy, about how to do just that. st that. j.p. morgan wealth management knows it's easy to get lost in investment research.
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united states capitol on january 6th 2021, they had one mission. to prevent the peaceful transfer of presidential power that had gone uninterrupted for more than two centuries. and illegitimately install than president donald trump for another term. now their efforts fails, but that threat to our democracy still looms large. and in the flood of pro trump extremists that engulfed the house that day, it began with a trickle more than four years earlier.
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>> do you make the same commitment that you will absolutely, absolutely accept the results of this election? >> i will look at it at the time. i'm not looking at anything now, i'm looking at it at the time. >> are you saying you're not prepared now to -- >> what i'm saying now, is that i will keep you in suspense. >> october 19th. it started with a trickle, a trickle built into a flood or a series of cuts and chipped away to a stump. a threat that attempted to manifest itself into a promise. there will never come a day when the threat to democracy is solved, protecting it i believe is an ongoing attorney effort and it is up to all of us to notice the trickle before a democracy drowns. there's a new book, saving democracy. a users manual for every american, and it explores just how to do that. and here to discuss, is the author of saving democracy, the former chairman of the ohio democratic party, david pepper. good to see you david, i am very happy wrote this book.
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you talk a lot in the book about going on offense for democracy. how do you do that? >> well, your prior guest really fired me up. we have to remember, as you described in texas, in ohio we have the same dei style attack going on here. the front line in their attack on democracy is actually in states and state houses, and we too often aren't even playing defense. you know that 42% of the republicans in the texas state house didn't even have an opponent in their last election? 50% of tennessee republicans who kicked out the two justin's didn't have an opponent. we are so focused on a few swing states for federal offices, will they're focused at the state house level in destroying democracy where the rules of democracy are written, and we have to get back into the states and start holding extremist accountable. and the book goes through all the ways we can do that. but once you see it that the front of democracy is not some
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swing straight far away from you, it's every red state and blue state, one thing i hope it shows you is that there's so much more every american can do to fight for democracy, rather than just sitting here thinking it's some distant battle. -- engaging disenfranchise voters everywhere, how much we can all do to lift democracy where we are. >> david, you make such a very important point here. people talk about red states versus blue states, and i think about the state legislatures across the country, and one of the biggest state legislative battles that made a difference this past year happened in nebraska. in a red state, where usually we wouldn't be talking about it. the -- book is of devoted to the importance of state houses. i've been talking a lot about this issue of republican state legislatures targeting the autonomy of blue cities within their states. it's called preemption, i like to say it is a takeover. and this spring in mississippi, the state legislature passed
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this sweeping bill, and it expanded state power over jackson's policing and court systems. so, how much of a mobilizing fact or do you think the national democratic party apparatus understands the state legislators could be in the upcoming election? >> i think we have to see that the biggest risk to democracy is at the state level. if you're goal in life, and this is the far-right school, they have a toxic minority viewpoint agenda. meaning, they know their agenda is not supported by the majority. the perfect place to put that into place is through state houses, that they can gerrymander and use voter suppression to suppress the other side. so they are running their entire agenda through state houses. when lindsey graham brought up a national abortion ban, mitch mcconnell said not here, we will do it through state houses. so we can either decide to fight back in state houses where they're rushing through their attire agenda, or will continue to lose in state houses and hope and pray we use some u.s. -- to stop it.
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going back to the office analogy, think about state houses as all on the soccer healed kicking at the goal, again and again. we're going to be blocking the shots. we think that if we had a better goalie somehow will save the day. we have to get into these states, recruit, support, not just in a few areas, everywhere. you will not win everywhere, but we have and -- a lack of accountability crisis in the states, because these people feel like nobody's ever going to run against them. they feel like they will never be pushed back. we have to bring accountability back to extremism or it will still go through the downward spiral that we are seeing. >> this is spoken like a man who does some work on the state level, somebody that understands what's happening across the country. i guess my question to you is, we use the term threats to democracy a lot. and, when i think about threats to democracy, i think about things like gerrymandering, polling stations scarcity, january 6th. but what are some things that don't seem directly connected
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to the democratic process, but still pose threats to our democracy itself? >> intimidation, there's so many rules. let me give an example. they never cared about drop boxes when voters in a salt lake city and anchorage is we're using dropbox's ten years ago. but the minute you see large numbers of african americans using drop boxes, and they voted the way they did in detroit, now they're going after top boxes. so every tool that they think that the majority that threatens them is going to use or has used to win an election, all of a sudden a year later they're going after that. so something no one even thought much about only six years ago, all of a sudden is viewed by them as a threat. so, it's everything from intimidation, not showing up to school board meetings, because they want to keep you from speaking out against book bans, to items like dropbox is. everything in between. >> if the people want more,
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david pecker, they need to get your book. david pepper, the author of saving democracy. thank you very much. ask yourself this question. what kind of a difference to roads, bridges, and all of the infrastructure make in our lives? think about it. you can ask the folks in philadelphia, after that disastrous collapse of i-95. up next, how this whole mess has the opportunity to remind the nation of the good work that the government can and should do. should do. my mental health was much better, but i struggled with uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia. td can be caused by some mental health meds. and it's unlikely to improve without treatment. i felt like my movements were in the spotlight. ingrezza is a prescription medicine to treat adults with td movements. ingrezza is different. it's the simple, once-daily treatment proven to reduce td that's #1 prescribed. people taking ingrezza can stay on their current dose of most mental health meds. ingrezza 80 mg is proven to reduce
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i 95 is one of the most important highways in america, connecting philadelphia up to new york and boston, and south to washington d.c., all the way down to miami. this collapse is not only causing a traffic nightmare, it's interrupting a supply chain. today, while competing in philadelphia, president biden took an aerial tour of the damage to i-95. the president had this to say, after seeing the gaping hole in the highway. >> there is no more important project right now in the country, as far as i'm concerned, i'm directing my team not figuratively but literally to move heaven and earth to get this done as soon as humanly possible. >> the i-95 collapse was very tragic. it is troubling. it is also an unfortunate but timely example of why investing infrastructure is so critical. repair work is shaping up to be an example of something else. the federal government's role in a stable society, and that role is something that
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president biden understands deeply. just days after the collapse, repairs were already underway. you can even watch the reconstruction live. just a few hours ago, pennsylvania governor joe shapiro announced of the collapse stretch will reopen within the next two weeks. two weeks. now and that is thanks in part to fund an -- yeah, you knew i was gonna say it. folks, this is how the government is supposed to work. and it is a big reason by one of president biden's signature achievements is in fact bipartisan infrastructure laws. remember, it's bipartisan because many republicans voted for. why? because even they could not deny how many roads, how many bridges, railways, and airports needed repairs in their communities. here's the facts. one in five miles of highway and major roads were found to be in poor condition, according to a 2017 report by the infrastructure report -- one in five. and the federal highway administration listed 45,000
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bridges in poor condition in 2020 once national bridge inventory. well, the bipartisan infrastructure law allotted 110 billion dollars, billion with a b in funding for repairs to all of these. and it goes beyond the roads and bridges. just this week, montana senator john testa touted that he secured nearly $12 million for high-speed internet in his state. and four days ago, washington senators patty murray and maria cantwell announced more than $76 million in high-speed internet funding across their state. that is going to make a difference. the impacts of this law, and everywhere across the country. and they are happening right now. if you know where to look, honestly if you have a bridge in your community, probably some bipartisan infrastructure law money is going there. so one can argue that this is a piece of legislation that is delivering. not just for the roads, but for a very way of life. and it's not the only
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taking you on the journey to juneteenth. all persons held as slaves within any state, or designated part of a state, the people where optional then be in rebellion against the united states, she'll be then thence forward and forever free. these were the words of the pulmonary and anticipation proclamation -- on september 22nd 20 -- 100 days later, abraham lincoln kept his word and issued what we know today as the emancipation proclamation. with the adoption of the 13th amendment on just ember -- the abolishment of slavery was codified in the united states constitution. now, after the emancipation proclamation was issued, the
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news of freedom spread throughout the country. but it was not until june 19th, 1865, that the good news made its way to galveston texas. our current political climate, juneteenth fills a little heavier this year. there is a movement in our country to strike this very history from our public discourse. from book bans, to the removal of african american studies in public schools, and teachers threatens with losing their jobs just for educating students. so, this year, we are marking the third anniversary of the federal holiday with a special about the journey to juneteenth in an exclusive interview at the national museum of african american history and culture, with the museum's current director, kevin young. now, the museum tells the story of america through the lens of african americans. director young took me on a tour through various exhibits as we discussed the events, the people, and the places that led to june 19th 1865. here is just a piece of our
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wide ranging conversation. take a look. >> we are here at the national museum of african american history and culture. >> absolutely. >> the director, director kevin young. first of all, i have been to the museum a billion times. this will be my first guided tour of the museum. and i can't think of a better person to take me through it. we wanted to come to the museum because, obviously, juneteenth is coming up and i think this is what, only the third year that it would be an official federal holiday? an official celebration. we've been celebrating for a long time, and i don't know if everybody really knows the history of juneteenth. where it came from, why it's an important part of the american story. and here in one of the peoples museums, i thought it's a good place we could start. >> absolutely. well, it's so good to be with you. my great-grandfather celebrated juneteenth in northern louisiana, starting in the
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twenties and thursdays he would make homemade ice cream, crank it out if you've ever had that deliciousness, and tell them the story of juneteenth, which is the story of the news of emancipation reaching the enslaved in galveston texas in 1865. now, this is two and a half years after the emancipation proclamation. so here we are after emancipation has been declared, but folks are still toiling and enslaved. so it's both a celebration of that moment, of freedom, but also of freedom tonight. and i think that complexity of the holiday is actually really beautiful. it's mostly just food and freedom, and good red drink, but that kind of celebration always has this thoughtfulness behind it. >> i think it's also the story of this museum as well. the museum is the story of struggle, but also of freedom. of triumph. >> it took 100 years to build this. the first request for a memorial to honor african americans was in 1950, civil war veterans 50 years after the
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war said we need a space. and it took john lewis and others putting in that legislation starting in the 80s. i think he put it in 19 times before it was signed into law in 2003 by president george w. bush. to be here on the national mall and the shadow of the national monument, and the tiles outside the museum or the exact angle of -- over a long time and triumph bf toil. i think juneteenth is that too. >> a story of triumph and toil. so, we're gonna start to told the story of june 19th. obviously, juneteenth is directly connected to the issue of slavery. >> it is. it's slavery and freedom. i think those things are interrelated. what we call the paradox of liberty in the museum. i think you see that very much in the slave cabin we are about to see. >> i don't think a lot of people know that nearly half of the enslaved people that were brought to this country came
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through charleston south carolina. i think it's even more than half. charleston was the entry point. and the dissemination points of slavery across the country. this is the -- from south carolina. it was disassembled by our team, but also by the people who had lived and whose family had lived in this cabin over generations. i think what you notice of course, is this door. this entryway. it never had a physical door on it during enslaved meant. as you can see in, just a little bit, that's what the overseers or the slave holders would do is look in. they would monitor activity of the enslaved. and there is nothing more symbolic than this other door, which the enslaved cut as soon as emancipation in south carolina. they cut another door with an actual physical door on it so they could go in and out at their leisure. and that is really a symbol of freedom. >> well. what a find. >> the other thing we should remember is this cabin was
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lived in by people, descendants, until about 15 or 20 years ago. >> i'm sorry, 15 or 20 years ago? >> yes ma'am. this provided shelter, but it also gives a sense of how enslavement links to our housing conditions today. questions of redlining and other limitations on black housing. this is what we are talking about when we talk about that. and that long legacy that slavery leaves. the family was some of the people who helped with the disassembling and reassembly of this in the museum. >> it was getting good, right? many thanks to kevin young, director of the national museum of african history and culture. don't worry folks, we will have much more of our conversation tomorrow at four pm eastern on msnbc. our full special is also now streaming on peacock. you can go there, sometime, not
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