reverend al sharpton starts right now. happy father's day to you. okay, i know you're going to get time to celebrate later. >> i did my radio show this morning. my daughters and grandson came with me. it's been a great father's day. thank you, simone. >> well, good evening. well, good evening. >> welcome to politicsnation. tonight's need, freedom and struggle. right now, i'd like to wish a very happy father's day to man across the country having their contributions recognized. i'm proud to say as i told simone, my daughters and grandson have done the same for me today. tomorrow, america will do the same for the black freedom struggle. the third nationwide

observation of juneteenth as a federal holiday coming as our largest blue state has a historic conversation on reparations for its black residents. i am conflicted tonight. as i watch any number of republican politicians and voters pledge the enduring support for donald trump, seeking a return to the white house well facing a 37 count federal indictment after years of -- white racial grievance for political gain, paving the way for other gop politicians including the 2024 competitors to attack racial progress in public life. i struggle to justify why, in my mind, america deserves a day off for work, made possible by black history so many republicans now insist should

be banned from our institutions. despite the conflict in, me i'm still grateful to see that black history recognized at a national level. i just want to see our nation at large are in the holiday created in its name. >> me now is congressman barbara lee the democrat of california. currently running for the u.s. senate for the state of california. congresswoman, we appreciate you joining us. happy juneteenth in advance of tomorrow. before we get to, that i do want to touch on donald trump's federal indictment over his handling of classified materials. president biden has, for the most part been silent regarding indictment. you republican colleagues in congress and on the other hand continue to minimize the charges against trump. conflating those charges with his alleged crime. they say with president biden.

hillary clinton. saying they committed some crimes. some going as far as to vow that they will impede -- in protest of donald trump having to face consequences for his actions. watching this from congress, what is your reaction tonight? >> reverend, happy father's day to you. happy father's day to all the fathers and surrogate fathers. all the men who are really taking care of our children and lifting everyone up to make this a better country. have a wonderful day. a continuation of a wonderful day. let me tell you, reverend, silence is complicity. no trump first of all is a national security threat. i think these charges lay this out. this indictment lays this out. you know, i've been involved in foreign policy and international relations for years and years. i understand national security.

i understand the threats that are out there. for this man to put our country at risk and put individual's at risk really deserves this indictment. no one is above the law. we have to make sure that we understand the risks right now as a result of what this man has done. >> we mark the third nationwide observance of juneteenth tomorrow. about ten days later, you are states first in the nation reparations task force will conclude in nearly three years of work by submitting its final report and recommendations on preparing and justice for black californians. they will submit it to the state legislature, among the rapper represent -- a state apology, new programs to address california history. perhaps the most controversial proposal cash payouts possibly over 1 million dollars per

eligible residents. now, california's solemnly democratic. still it remains to be seen what the state legislators, even democrats, will get behind the recommendations and the price tags reportedly as high as 800 billion dollars. will your state made history by finally addressing in its own way,, its own way that no other state is ever addressed, senator. >> it must do that. happy juneteenth. my grandfather was born in galveston. my great-grandmothers was born in galveston, texas during slavery. i was born in texas before they moved to southern california. i understand the importance of juneteenth. you have to connect that to repairing the damage, it is reparations. as it relates to the enslavement of africans in this country for over 250 years. we have, of course, jim crow, we have segregation,

institutional racism. it's very important to look at repairing the damage. i am so happy and excited that our governor signed this bill into law several years ago to establish this task fourth. our secretary of state introduced the legislation to really put california out there leading once again on issues that are really hard for the country to understand we are the vanguard of this and hopefully the legislature will be able to move forward and provide, finally, let me say, reverend's when you talk about reparation, or talking about a system of government. it enslaved people. generational trauma. the wealth gap is huge. you look at covid. you look at the health care disparities. you look at incarceration rates. you look at the housing disparities. you look at every systematic disparity that african americans are disproportionately impacted by. the study we just --

did not happen ever happened as a result of being enslaved for so many years. the generational trauma. the generational impacts are with us today. thank god california stepped up and we are moving forward. >> i notice that yesterday there were non black groups from the latino community, the asian community, the jewish community that rallied and said that we support blacks get reparations in california. i think it is not just a black issue. it's certainly based on the history that blacks have gone through. -- one thing there. this is an international concept. reparations have been enacted throughout the world as a result of human rights violations. all other crimes against humanity. this is nothing new. i'm really pleased the coalition and our allies are stepping up with us. >> let me go to this issue. the rhetorical shots being

fired in the feud between governor newsom and florida governor ron desantis are getting louder, frankly. newsom has publicly criticized desantis policies on abortion, immigration, education. calling for a state investigation and possible kidnapping charges over desantis forced relocation of migrants from texas to california. desantis has -- as prompting a mass exodus over his policies. last week, after the interview aired, newsom said he would debate desantis. desantis responded by taunting newsom to challenge president biden for the democratic nomination in 2024. what do you make of these two heavyweight governors throwing jobs across the country. some say it could become a battle for the white house in 2028.

>> i think the point of this is, the gloves have taken off. i'm very pleased that our governor, gavin newsom, is taking this man on. what desantis is doing, trying to turn the clock back on so many constitutional rights. we have to have someone to be the counter to that and to fight like that. joe biden has been a great president. he's going to win this next election. we are rallying around president biden. believe you me, i'm confident that if we do our work in terms of making out the vote for president biden, we will see another biden harris term. that means we have to do the work. the governor of my state is making sure that the issues are confronted front and center. so we know there's a contrast between democrats and republicans. the governor's, as i said, taking off the gloves. really forcing desantis's hand so the country can see exactly how fragile our democracy is.

we have to fight to protect them. how we have to make sure that our democratic values are held in this next election. i'm very pleased that the gloves are taken off. the governor is taking him on in a big way. >> you are currently running to succeed selling in dianne feinstein, vowed to finish her current term before retiring next year. two years ago, your governor newsom -- as the replacement if she stepped down early. both los angeles karen bass and the head of your state legislative black caucus endorsed your point in that case. however you obtained the office, you could become the only black women in the u.s. senate since former california senator kamala harris became vice president, why is your time in california time now to do this come gross woman? >> our time is now for many reasons.

first of all, reverend al, since 1789, when the first house and senate went into into session, we had two phenomenal african american women serve as senators. senator moseley-braun, and vice president kamala harris, can you imagine the perspective and the experience our country has lost by not having the lens of an african american women at the table? as far as i'm concerned, my experience, what i bring, what i've done in the past working with republicans and democrats to pass significant legislation when i was in the california legislation, now in congress, as a progressive african american women who has the support of many people in california, they understand the diversity and representation matters. it's about being able to deliver. the affordability crisis we have here in california. reverend, we have 20 million people out of 40 million leaving one paycheck away from poverty here in california. inequality is huge.

my experiences as a yeoman on public assistance having to deal with childcare i had to take my kids to class because -- ray still dealing with that. it's unacceptable. the experiences i, bring my history, my perspective is lacking in the senate. we have to have someone who's going to fight to protect democracy, reproductive rights. environmental rights. labor union rights. we have to have someone who's going to fight against these extremists. and the person to do. that i know based on my experience i can. >> all right, we're going to have to leave it there. thank you, as always. congresswoman barbara lee, joining me now is a georgia democratic congresswoman lucy mcbath. thank you for joining us as well. let me go right here, you and i have known each other for a long time. you have turned your -- i will never forget when you stop me on an airplane telling me about the shooting that

happened to your son. you use that pain to go into politics. serving for all of your sick constituents. i want to start with this. you recently wrote an op-ed for msnbc highlighting aj owens. a 35-year-old mother of four. fatally shot earlier this month by a white neighbor in florida following a dispute over the victims children. you pointed out that because of flores -- stand your ground law, they were legally acquired to investigate whether it applied to this case before they could make an arrest. now, i was in florida, as you, know earlier this week delivering the eulogy at the funeral of a.g. owns and your son was tragically killed by gun violence as well can you elaborate more on why stand-your-ground laws is so important? >> absolutely.

thank you so much for having me. stand-your-ground is going to become increasingly more a policy or going to have to look at in terms of gun violence prevention. as you know, when my son jordan was murdered, he was murdered by a man who claimed stand-your-ground. calling my son and his friends game diners. afraid he was going to hurt him. we have, of course, self-defense laws across the country. based upon the council doctrine. evidence incited to be able to protect their person or communities. with the stand-your-ground laws, 30 states now have some form of standing rowley. they have watered down the castle doctrine of self-defense la to no duty to retreat. the individual has the ability to shoot first and ask questions later and this is what we are dealing with in

such a destructive way they are basing their own perception what's fearful and what's a threat to themselves. shooting first and asking questions later. we continue to see these kinds of cases again and again. i'm so devastated by what happened with miss owens. i'm so devastated by the fact that her child was right there with her. we will continue to see over and over again that people will be trying to defend themselves and understand your ground, claiming they were afraid, oftentimes, how do you determine in their mindset what is a credible threat? >> you know, the trauma going through his grandmother's -- we talked, we spent some time at the funeral. i try to encourage him. he watched his mother get shot. not arrested for days the. mother of trayvon martin attended the funeral.

her son was shot. zimmerman, you stand-your-ground. let me go to this. earlier this, week you introduced an assault weapons ban. and large the effort of the house democrats to force their republican colleagues to act on gun control reform. you and your colleagues are using the discharge petition to force a vote on the house floor on these measures. can you talk to me about how you and your colleagues felt it is necessary to reach this point? where do you go from here? >> absolutely, we know that our colleagues have taken no other stance for gun violence prevention other than to say, morgan's, carrie, you can have a gun anywhere anytime, no accountability, no responsibility. one thing i will say is that having worked with countless number of victims and survivors people in this country are crying out for congress to do

something about the scourge of gun violence. they are pleading with us. if our republican colleagues are not willing to take a stand and do what's right and also to make good on the oath that they took to protect and serve, my colleagues and i are happy to leave the charge. to force the vote, they are unwilling, which i sit on to bring these pieces of legislation through committee and on to the floor. so, once again, we have not had any republicans that are willing to sign on. so, this should be a very good sense of expression to the country that my democratic colleagues and i are willing to do everything we can to keep them safe in their neighborhoods. so they are not a afraid to go to the grocery store or to go to church or to go to concerts or for our children to be in school.

yet, as of yet, our republican colleagues have refused to pass any legislation or even look towards preserving human life. >> switching gears, earlier this year in the final days of the legislative session, there was a push in the georgia state legislature to rush to pass state laws that would raise stick to challenge votes in the state. including measures to eradicate absentee ballots, drop boxes and allowing citizens to more easily challenge voting registration. looking ahead to the next year, next election year, are you concerned that voters will be surprised in your state at a scale that could affect the outcome of key races? >> while, i've been absolutely angry and frustrated over the attempts of the republican legislature here in georgia to

silence the voices of georgia voters. and acosta's voters that they've been silencing have been minority voters. of course we know that i was a direct hit with redistricting in georgia in that measure. every georgia voter, everyone has, should have the ability to be able to exercise the right to vote. unfettered access to the ballot box, they should be able to say what's important to them, and everyone should have to see at the table. i'm really, i'm waiting to see what's going to happen, we don't know yet what's gonna happen here with my case in particular. and what the court will do here in georgia. we expect that towards the end of the summer will no. but i hope that democracy will be upheld i hope the justice system will carry out and play out in a way that it should, and support everyone's ability to be able to exercise their right to vote.

i do believe in everything that our great, wonderful john luiz fought for. that we continue to stand on a shoulders here in georgia as i know terri sewell does, and alabama. i'm looking forward to democracy being carried out and that everyone have the ability to be able to vote unfettered. >> all, right thank you congresswoman lucy mcbath, always great to have you. on coming up, the true meaning of juneteenth, it's much more than just a day off for more. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. richard -- >> rife, great sunday. happy father's day as. we'll get secretary of state anthony blinken arrived in china this morning for two days of talks. the hope here is the ease tensions between washington and beijing. but can postpone plans to visit in february following the shootdown of a chinese surveillance balloon over the

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juneteenth began in remembrance of the enslaved people in galveston, texas, who first learned of their freedom on june 19th, 1865. two years after president abraham lincoln's emancipation proclamation. juneteenth suntory an off journey from an informal simulation that marked former slaves to a national holiday was made possible by decades of effort from people like 96-year-old opal lee. dump the grandmother of juneteenth, who recently appeared at the white house juneteenth concert alongside vice president kamala harris. this year at least 28 states, and the district of columbia were legally recognizing juneteenth as a public holiday. a study of 400 large companies found at least a third of them offer juneteenth as a paid day

off, and retailers such as walmart, ikea, and dollar tree have begun marketing juneteenth merchandise to their customers. i'm pleased to see the rise and national profile of juneteenth. but i also hope that the bay can be used to spark a deeper dialogue on topics important to african americans. including the issue of reparations. earlier this month, lawmakers in new york voted to join states such as california and creating commissions to examine the persistent economic political and educational disparities. -- as a result of slavery. and to generate workable proposals for how we can materially redress address these wrongs. not everyone is on board with the idea of reparations. but i would argue recent

efforts by republicans to suppress discussion of race in our schools and public squares is a sign of desperation. as they've lost control of this historical narrative. the right has chosen to try and a race the past rather than confront. at the true meaning behind juneteenth is to ensure backed it never happens again. we must rise up. not only to celebrate the day of our freedom. but to remember that it came ten short sadness. because our bondage was long and brutal. and our liberation came reluctantly and unevenly. we'll be right back. we'll be right back.

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presidential candidates who called the sunshine state home. and although republicans have been dominant in the states presidential politics recently many democrats still see florida as a swing state. and perhaps even a tipping point. we're talking florida with our political panel tonight. i'm joined by two veterans of the states political scene, former republican congressman, florida congressman david jolly, and former democratic florida congresswoman, val demings,, david let's start with a guy that grew up here in new york, like me. but has become in many ways the ultimate florida man. former president donald trump who was federally indicted last week. but it doesn't seem to have affected his standing in the republican primary. politico reports that trump leads his closest competitor by

at least 30 points and three national polls. conducted mostly are entirely after the news of the federal indictment broke. and trump claims to have raised more than $6 million in less than a week after the news of the indictment broke. trump's legal problems actually strengthening his candidacy at least in the primaries? >> they are. he's having his weaponization. it's at its heart, a very dangerous destabilizing arid. of and everyone running against him is backing up on. and you have 12 republican candidates, one of the gets indicted and the other 11 say, i feel bad for the sky. because he really hasn't done anything, wrongs of course it's going to strengthen his hand, and at some point that will have to changes, opponents will have to have stronger contrast with donald trump. what we've learned from the bragg indictment, the most recent indictment in south florida, perhaps even if

there's a january six indictment, and a georgian time, it is the indictment insult doesn't hurt donald trump. it actually helps. the question is, what would happen upon conviction. i don't think we'll see conviction. whether he's convicted or not before a consecutive the nomination and march. this primary is over in february, and of. march does he see convection before the general election. who knows. but this becomes a general election for donald trump as the possible nominee and joe biden as the sitting president. and the question becomes do we want somebody that's a convicted. fellow i think the nation will say no. >> ballots, talk about trump's main republican rival right now, florida governor ron desantis. he made a campaign stop in nevada yesterday where he spent a lot of time talking about his record handling clothes in florida. but avoided risky topics like the abortion ban. that he signed into law or trump's indictment. for desantis to gain ground

he's gonna have to have i find a message that except excites republican voters. as someone who's followed him for a long time. do you see that happening? >> reverend sharpton, great to be. matthew happy father's day unhappy juneteenth. i also served in the house of representatives [inaudible] with governor desantis and what i [inaudible] as more votes -- >> i think we need to get your sound going in and. outlets work on your sound. when we go to david. i really want to hear what you have to say. david, yet another florida man jumped into the presidential race last week. let's talk about that while we get vowels sound straight. that's miami mayor frances

soares. he announced he is writing just days after his city played host to trump's first federal court appearance. suarez has an interesting platform, he's plouffe business, anti crime, and wants to take on climate change. what you make of his candidacy? >> he also avoided for andrew gillum overrun desantis. and doesn't support -- he's an intriguing republican candidate. he has quite across from the image of miami to make it a tech. up to talk about lowering crime and economy. and that -- the nation's just getting to know francis suarez. the city of miami is a relatively small jurisdiction that he's the mayor. of the county's actually a large jurisdiction. but he is the most intriguing thing. i enjoy watching, i know, watching his response to so many of the hard traditional publican primary questions. because he's not fully comfortable as the republic.

and so he makes an intriguing canada. as i mentioned he opposed desantis in trump. and he doesn't want to go in the direction that they want to take the. party but he now finds himself in a republican party and a republican primary where he needs to give a nod to that. . you see a candidate with a long shot chance at getting the nomination. but struggling in realtime as to whether or not he can truly give a new voice to the party. it's a hill too high for him to climate. but let's watch him and see what he does. >> we apologize but we've had bad reception with valve damning. i wanted to hear from. her david lets us in on a question that has bedeviled democrats for a few decades now. florida has picked the winner of the presidential election in ten of the last 12 cycles. and since 2000. the state has gone republican two thirds of the time. including the last two elections for trump. some democrats have ridden

florida off as a swing state. but democrat donna deacons upset in a win as mayor of jacksonville in a race earlier this year has some excited again. can democrats win florida and 2020? four and how will they do? it >> i think they can but maybe not for the very parochial florida reasons that may want to approach the topic. but for the national trend regions. you're right florida has been voting republican for almost two. decades but by just a pointer to rick scott famously i don't think he's ever won by more than a point and a half. but if you look at this last. race rhonda scent is won by 20. and that's why a lot of national democrats have suggested that maybe we don't spend the critical resources in florida. but then you saw that major race at democrat winning the city of jacksonville. a town that the suburbs of which rhonda scent is has held himself.

that he hails from. i think what it speaks to is the national -- 18 and 20 and 22. that the suburbs are trending democratic when the republicans are focused on donald trump in culture war issue. when i would suggest is take your message everywhere. concentrate on those suburbs. and when the swing voters that can deliver florida for the democrats in 24. >> top the issues that people are concerned about. thank you former congressman, david jolly, and val demings. we're sorry we couldn't get that sound straight. coming up, i state such as california consider reparation, new book spells out exactly how wide the wealth gap between black and white americans really is. and how it could be closed practically. we'll talk about it with one of the authors next. the authors next (tap, tap) listen, your deodorant just has to work.

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tomorrow's juneteenth holiday we're seeing unprecedented action taken on the issue of reparations for the descendants of slaves. what a long-standing federal bill to explore reparations has lost momentum under this congress. some house progressives are pushing to keep the issue at the forefront with new legislation. several cities in the state of california have established some form of repetitive justice program. and the golden state has established an -- reparation task force which is preparing to turn over a range of recommendations. -- next week. a new book from a team of academics lays out just how the u.s. government should tackled the enduring wealth gap between white and black america.

amplifying a roadmap to an issue that goes back to the civil war. joining me now is one of the authors, duke university professor, william directly, -- black reparations. project for racial justice. professor diary, thank you for joining us tonight. you calculated the wealth gap between black and white americans to be about 14 trillion dollars. it sounds like a staggering sum. but you say that once the number is broken down. that it comes out to about $800,000 per black family. 330,000 per individual. of course you say that that's -- i tend to agree with you. formalities, can you briefly breakdown how you arrived at this number? >> yes, quite straightforward. hysterectomy where consumer finances, which is issued by the federal reserve have

re-three years. the most recent version of the survey came out in 2019. it generated an estimate that the average black households had a net worth that was about $841,000 less than the average white household. so, that differential translates to a figure of closer to $315,000 per person. we approximate that there's about 40 million black americans and the united states whose ancestors were enslaved hair. , so if you simply multiply 40 million by $350,000. you get to the 14 trillion dollar figure. >> you know what i, think a lot of americans don't understand what we say ancestors. they think we're talking about prehistoric time. i remember in 2007 and a local newspaper in new york came to me wanting to do my family tree. they came back and brought me

how my great grandfather was a slave name coleman sharpton in israel, south carolina, i knew my grandfather. his father was a slave. and in fact the name sharpton was the name of his owners. i'm named after my peoples owners. and i think people don't really understand how close the says. because my great grandfather was a slave, my grandfather could not go to schools because of jim crow. my father had to see -- you get to my generation we have this wealth gap you talk about. because it was built up over time. and nothing was done to repair and make the catch up happened. 34 years ago the late michigan congressman john -- h.r.40 to take up the expiration of reparations out a federal level. that bill was approved by the house committee in 2021. it's cosponsor, she led, jackson saying at the time that it had the votes to count the

full house. yet it never dead. -- her faster darity, how do you respond to that? >> i think that that's a decent legislation that i do not think it's particularly well crafted. unfortunately. because it's really the only piece of legislation that stands out there in the process of trying to get to reparations from the federal government. i think one of our task start of all up as appear your piece of legislation that would fulfill four principles. the jar characterize four pillars of what's the appropriate way a reparations plan should be. dan the first pillar is it should establish that black americans whose ancestors were enslaved in the united states should be the eligible recipients for black reparations. secondly, it should indicate

that the amount at minimum should be sufficient to illuminate the racial wealth gap. that's where we come to the 14 trillion dollar figure. the third thing it should indicate is that the federal government should bear full responsibility for meeting the bill for reparations. and the final pillar of a sound reparations plan must be an indication that would prioritize giving the money to eligible recipients in a direct fashion. so, they'd have full discretion over how it's spent. >> going out to -- to at least consider reparations. i've seen where you said that america has the capacity to consider the totality of its history. not just for parts that feel good, or that support a kindf fantasy about our nations past. how do you explain the push within many red states to batten books on academic courses that do exactly that?

do you think there's at least some that are fearful for a full understanding of history will make younger generations even more open to repaired of justice? >> i think that's exactly the issue, if you go back to the year 2000 a study that was conducted by a couple researchers at the university of chicago. it indicated that only 4% of white americans under -- endorse monetary damage for as reparations for black americans. if you come up to the present ear, early in 2023, a survey conducted by a team of researchers in the university of massachusetts at amherst found that it was closer to 30% of white america. who now under reparations for black americans. and it's close to half of all millennials who do the same. so, as folks get younger there more supportive of the idea of reparations. i think that that's resulted in

a backlash that's taken the form of this attack on so called critical race theory. the recalcitrant segment of america's population are very, very frightened by the fact that there is a substantial change in attitude among large portions of the white population. >> professor, we thank you for being with us tonight. up next, my final thoughts, stay with us. stay with us that's why, at novo nordisk, we've spent a hundred years developing treatments to help unlock humanity's full potential. these are the greats: people living with, thriving with — not held back by — disease. they motivate us to fight diabetes and obesity, rare diseases and cardiovascular conditions, for generations to come. so, everyone can meet their moment. because your disease doesn't define you. so, what will? novo nordisk. driving change.

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