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section of interstate. 14,000 trucks. the detours get so critical, concerns that the interruptions here could interfere with the supply chain, city of philadelphia, the state working on detours in and around the area to get cars moving in and out as quickly as possible but again, right now that time line has been expedited. we initially heard months. now we're hearing two weeks. of course people are skeptical the governor says they are committing to getting the work done all eyes on the work on i-95. >> george solis in philadelphia, thank you so much, and that wraps up this hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart you can always reach me on twitter and instagram@jdbalart, thank you for the privilege of your time. the great chris cillizjansing p with news right now. it is good to be with you on
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this juneteenth, i'm chris jansing. with begin with developments in donald trump's classified documents case and a new ruling from the magistrate judge with strict restrictions around classified documents and warning to him and his defense team that they cannot release evidence to the public or the media ahead of trial. but will the former president cooperate? meantime, the one competitor who trump trails in the polls is slow rolling his start two months after officially announcing his reelect campaign, his first rally over the weekend, and today, his pitch to voters and donors in california. and what we know about secretary blinken's high stakes meeting in beijing, can it calm international fears over the chill between these two countries. >> and multiple states under dangerous weather warnings at this hour. we've got the latest on the deaths, the impact across the
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southern region and that weekend of severe storms and tornadoes we'll have a live report from texas now under an extreme heat alert. but we begin with those new developments out of the state of florida where a magistrate judge bruce reinhart just sent a clear message to donald trump in the classified documents case, don't talk about the evidence. the question is will he cooperate? especially as legal experts predict his team will try to stall the proceedings. new reporting from the "washington post" suggests that donald trump and his lawyers could have options to at least in theory delay his trial until after the election joining me now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, legal affairs columnist and former federal prosecutor, renato, and political analyst, matthew dowd. walk us through this ruling from bruce reinhart. >> this is a standard protective order. what happens is now that the prosecution has brought the
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charges, all the evidence they have gathered in this case, all the testimony they have put in front of grand juries, now donald trump and his attorneys get access to that it will be a gradual process, eventual they will have all of that, including names of the witnesses. they are not allowed to disclose any of that to the public and donald trump is not lieu allowed to keep information a bout that personally this applies to all criminal defense. obviously this gets particular scrutiny because donald trump has a habit of making public information that he gleans from his lawyers in a variety of criminal cases, and witnesses who appear in cases involving donald trump tend to have threats and death threats directed at them there's concern about the security of the witnesses, security of the evidence just to be clear, this does not apply to the classified material in this case that will be subject to a whole
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different set of rules donald trump's attorneys will have to get security clearance and there's going to be a big fight about what access they get to classified information that isn't mentioned in the indictment and what they are allowed to present in this case. >> we're going to talk about that in a bit. we're going to look at this, if these rules aren't followed, if donald trump decides he wants to put this out there, what happens? >> well, obviously one problem is going to be a contempt of court proceeding that could be essentially a separate second avenue of legal jeopardy in this case for donald trump if it, you know, has its own potential set of charges i think more than likely what's going to happen is evidence that could be used in the trial against him. i mean, in other words, if i was jack smith or on his team, what i would be, you know, doing if i saw this information is wanting to include that on my exhibit list i would want to have a witness testify that even in his own
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case, he couldn't be careful with classified information. he couldn't keep himself from sharing that classified information. he didn't take it seriously in this case after the charges were brought. it would be very powerful evidence i'm sure his lawyers are going to try to do everything they can to keep him corralled and keep him from, you know, disseminating this information, and if he does so, i think that's going to be a big problem for him if he ends up not following their direction sgls it -- directions. >> it is going to be an interesting thing to watch, isn't it donald trump has gotten away with a lot of things for a very long time, has done what he wanted to. he's written about it, talked about it, proud of the fact of it, right burkst he's never been this situation before, matthew. >> as i was listening to thris,
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the magistrate has to be prepared for how does he enforce this orderm every step along the way, including his conduct during his presidency was a violation of an institutional norm this was all a series of things he wasn't supposed to do that he did anyway what i would like to know is are they already prepared for something that, in my view, has a 99% possibility of happening in this case. >> you're giving him a 1% chance of actually following the judge's orders okay i'm going to remember that can we go back to the whole idea of classified documents, right, which is separate, and there's a question about whether cpa,ipa could help trump's lawyers stall the trial if they wanted to. could it >> yes because that statute allows what are called interlocutory
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appeals. in other words, typically appeals occur at the end of the case at the end after all of that is done, the defendant will appeal an conviction, assuming there's a conviction it basically pauses everything and has an appeal right away it gives a lot of power to trump's team to build delay by essentially filing appeals, challenging the process, which in some instances might be justified because there are a lot of controversial tools that the government uses to protect information in criminal cases. i would expect some disagreement unless jack smith is really going to accede to, you know, the demands of the trump team. >> so also, renato, it could be a burden to trump's team because they would have to flag the documents they want to use in the trial early. "the washington post" writes this, quote, defense lawyers in national security cases have long argued that this part of
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the cipa law is unfair it gives prosecutors a detailed road map to the trial defense strategy well before the trial begins does this give prosecutors an upper hand >> i think it does candidly, i think that the way that prosecutors try national security cases is very favorable to the government, and they've generally been able to get away with that because there are very important secrets at stake in those cases, first of all, and second of all, you know, courts, you know, take very seriously, you know, keeping those secrets particularly when the defendants in those cases are usually people who might be unsympathetic. i think in this case with donald trump being the defendant, obviously former president of the united states, lots of eyes on this, i could see a court listening to challenges to some of these procedures, potential constitutional challenges and otherwise, and so for that reason, i think jack smith would be wise to tread carefully, to
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try to not, you know, not employ these tools in a very aggressive fashion because ultimately at the end of the day, the goal is a conviction, and you also want to preserve these tools for use in future cases, so i think, you know, it's very challenging choices jack smith and his team will have to make in the upcoming weeks and months. >> whatever happens, whether he's elected president, his republican competitors are being asked about a trump pardon i want to play some of their answers. >> i'm happy to announce, this is my commitment on january 20th, 2025, if i'm elected the next u.s. president to pardon donald j. trump. >> i would be inclirened in favr of a pardon. >> it's wrong to discuss a pardon without having the facts out. >> i don't know why some of my competitors presume the
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president will be found guilty if i have the great privilege of being president of the united states, as i did when i was governor, we would evaluate any request for pardon for any american. >> if you were president biden, would you pardon him right now >> i just think this whole matter is incredibly divisive for the country. >> so, matthew, there's a new poll that shows a majority of americans actually do support a pardon obviously, though, you can see the vast majority of republicans do is this a real issue for voters or only if the time comes when it becomes less hypothetical >> i mean, i think today voters, i mean, my answer to that poll is that voters basically want to get past donald trump. and anything that will get them past donald trump and get off the exit ramp from donald trump whether it's a pardon or not, they want right now. it becomes the biggest issue of the campaign, if in the fall of
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2024 it's joe biden versus donald trump, which is what it's likely to be if you look at all the polls, that's when it becomes incredibly important when voters will focus on it right now, i assume what most voters want is donald trump to go away. >> so renato, one of donald trump's opponents, asa hutchinson suggested that trump can pardon himself if he were to be elected can he >> that's a question no court has ever actually considered because no president has tried to do that before. kind of a crazy notion when you think about it there's a split in how people evaluated that, some people have argued that the mere act of pardoning suggests there's another person involved. in other words, you are granting leniency to someone else, not yourself, thus you need a second person to be the object of a pardon
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others have argued the president can pardon himself because there's no explicit prohibition in the constitution. it's certainly a legitimate concern, and i think governor hutchinson is right that that's something donald trump would try to do. >> rethank you very much. and up next a report from beijing on today's high stakes meeting between secretary blinken and chinese president xi jinping. we're back in 60 seconds whenever you're hungry, there's a deal on the subway app. buy one footlong, get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that's a deal worth celebrating. man, what are you doing?! get it before it's gone on the subway app. ♪♪ imagine you're doing something you love. rsv could cut it short. ♪
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quote, stabilize the badly deteriorating ties between the two countries but blinken told reporters china rebuffed a request for better communications between their militaries something the u.s. considers crucial to avoiding conflict, especially for taiwan. i want to bring in nbc's janis mackey frayer from beijing, what's the latest? >> reporter: the secretary of state seemed to think that this was a very positive visit for him. this was a visit, remember, that was called off four months ago in the after math of that spy balloon being shot down. when i asked him at the very end of the interview if he believed that the spy balloon incident is over now with china, that it's water under the bridge, he said that chapter should be closed, suggesting that he's seeing these talks in beijing over the past couple of days as a new starting point where he did admit that he did not make any progress was in
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reestablishing defense lines of communication. these are the military-to-military phone lines between the u.s. and china if something should go wrong. they have been silent for months now despite attempts to get them reopened here's more of what he had to say on that. >> it's a good and i think important start. both china and the united states, i think, recognized that we were in an increasingly unstable place in our relationship i think this is the start of a process to put a little bit more stability into it. both of us recognized that we have an obligation to responsibly manage the situation. that starts with communicating, with actually engaging across our government, and this was an opportunity to do that, an opportunity to make very clear where our deep differences are, and to have very detailed
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conversations about that, as well as to see if there are areas where, in our mutual interest, we might actually cooperate. >> this visit did not secure assurances from beijing that china was willing to reopen defense channels of communication. these are direct lines between the u.s. and chinese militaries to avoid any miscalculation or m misinterpretation which is becoming increasingly important, given the close calls, near collisions in the taiwan strait and over the south china sea however, this visit does appear to be paving the way for more high level visits from the u.s., from the commerce and treasury secretaries, perhaps within the next few weeks, and possibly xi jinping traveling to the u.s. to meet with president biden before the end of the year. >> janis mackey frayer in beijing, thank you very much for that. six people are dead, more than 640,000 still without
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power. with southern states reeling from the impact of severe storms that hit the region yesterday afternoon. take a look at the town of lewin, mississippi this is where a suspected tornado killed one person and injured 20 more. and in perryton, texas, where the victims of a deadly tornado included an 11-year-old boy help for those who survived is desperately needed here's what mayor kca mayor carn said earlier. >> we're going to work toward that federal aid that federal aid is months away. what we need is money now to help these families. >> and as if that isn't enough, the national weather service has issued an excessive heat warning for north texas and southern louisiana today. the heat index is 120 in some places with no immediate end in sight. let's bring in nbc's priscilla
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who joins us from perryton, texas. what's the latest? >> reporter: it's been four days since the ef 3 tornado ripped through perryton, texas. people began clean up late last week but had to stop over the weekend as another round of storms and tornado threats swept there this area. today, folks are back at it, trying to clear out debris and assess what is left for them i spoke to oscar hernandez, he owns this business and three others up the block, all of them destroyed, and he tells me he does not have insurance, and he got emotional as he talked about what comes next. take a listen. how are you doing emotionally right now? >> it's hard it's really hard
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i got friends and family helping us. >> reporter: the mayor tells me he believes 90% of the 200 homes and businesses that were destroyed are uninsured and he's not yet sure if this disaster is going to meet the requirements to qualify for federal aid, and so there are a lot of questions about temporary housing and where the money is going to come from to rebuild. the mayor says this is a very small town, and he worries that if people don't rebuild, there may not be much left here. i will tell you, it's also a very resilient town. we have seen folks out with barbecue grills making hot plates for folks so that as they're cleaning up, they can have a hot meal. there are also cooling centers that have been opened for folks who don't have electricity right now. there's still a few hundred without electricity, and they're able to go there and get some cool air and sort of cool off as they're cleaning up. and so certainly a lot of hope and resilience in this
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community, but also quite a path forward as they try to recover from this disaster back to you. >> yeah, as we can see around you. priscilla thompson, thank you for that. we have breaking news, right now, the u.s. coast guard is searching for a missing canadian sub. it offers tours of the titanic wreckage more than 12,000 feet below the ocean's surface. the company that runs the tours, oceangate says it is working with multiple agencies to bring the vessel and its crew back safely it's not yet known how many people are on board. and coming up, a weekend of gun violence as americans celebrated father's day and juneteenth leaving several dead and dozens injured. but first, president biden kicking off his campaign into a higher gear. we're on the trail with him in california what's his message to voters and can he bring his approval ratings above water?
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candidate joe biden is back on the road today, raising money and raising awareness of what he sees as his administration's accomplishments. he's heading to california right now after weekend stops in connecticut to tout gun safety legislation signed one year ago, and pennsylvania surveying that collapsed section of i-95
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navigating candidate and president, a slow walk toward reelection, with his campaign infrastructure only now beginning to take shape. biden's fundraising efforts which got off to what insiders described as a disappointing start are just beginning to pick up he is starting to name more senior staffers, but has yet to open a campaign headquarters joining me now nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli, usa today washington bureau chief, susan page, and matthew dowd, chief strategist for the bush/cheney 2004 campaign. the biden campaign is coming out of hibernation, when you look at those things, campaign headquarters, senior staff, sunday raising that may be behind where people think it should be. what does joe biden say, what do his campaign supporters say about where the campaign is right now? >> well, chris, the split screen is tough for biden advisers
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because we're seeing every day republicans on the campaign trail, and it inevitably asks the question why isn't the president doing the same thing on saturday, and we spoke there with a biden adviser who said this is pretty much how things usually work when you're talking about an incumbent president seeking reelection i covered the 2012 obama reelection as well he didn't hold his first campaign rally until may of 2012, so almost a year beyond when president biden announced when he was running for reelection the president runs by being president. he has that day job, which is important. you'll see the president continue to use a lot of his official events to drive home key campaign messages like what he's doing here in palo alto, talking about ways he's been able to use legislation he's passed to take steps to combat the climate crisis that's why we have this beautiful backdrop behind us to drive home that message. that's what the president is going to be speaking before later. you see the biden advisers saying we are going to do more
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political events perhaps than what obama did at this point in his reelection campaign but that it is more about this point, making sure key constituent groups that are going to be important to be energized into 2024 mobilized you saw this unprecedented, early endorsement by the labor unions on friday, leading to the rally on saturday. you also saw a coordinated endorsement by green groups, environmental groups last week we expect to see as the president is speaking about the anniversary of the dobbs decision, prominent women's group making a similar show of support for the president. the campaign is going to keep building itself out and be ready for what the campaign adviser say is a key moment. when we have a republican nominee, you'll see the president join full in the race as well. >> biden runs by being president but that makes democrats nervous, not that democrats aren't usually nervous they're worried about money. this week alone, president biden has four fundraisers, just in
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the san francisco area, over 20 in the back half of june, featuring the president, the first lady, the vice president, the second gentleman, they're going to be all over the place raising cash the campaign has been mum about how much they're raising right now. is it too early for democrats to worry or is it never too early >> well, in their mind, it's never too early. i think they were born worrying. so if i were democrats, i would be like, okay, just take a chill pill, it's going to be okay. i mean, to follow up what mike just said. when i was doing the bush reelection in 2004, we basically said let's go as long as possible, as long as we possibly can and build out the structure like what biden is doing, and not campaign with the president, have him be president. he's got a bully pulpit. show he's working for the american people and let the campaign be the campaign until it's ready in the final four months from the effort of the convention onwards i think that's a smart strategy. obama did it, we did it.
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and it was successful both of us in the course of this. democrats shouldn't worry about money. money is not the most important metric to use in how we're doing. there's so much money in politics today as we know in the midterms, there's billions and billions and billions of dollars, more money than anybody needs to be involved in a presidential campaign presidential campaigns are decided, one, by fundamental things, what's the economy doing a year from now, who is the opponent in this, how are they rated. and far down that list of things is how much money you have in the bank. >> so susan, president biden has been busy touting his accomplishments, and still his polls have been consistently under water. on the 41% of americans approve of the job he's doing, but he's trying to rally the base, and for starters, this weekend, he was in front of a union crowd of about 2,000. take a listen. >> weave've got a fight on our
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hands, and my question to you is simple, are you with me in this fight. >> i ean, that's another thing matthew didn't mention, but it is part of a trajectory, right, you start with the base. maybe save money until you actually get a serious challenger because you don't have one in the primary, and just wait for the general to really ramp things up. what do you make of it, susan? >> well, you know, joe biden has the great luxury of not having a credible primary opponent. the same situation matt faced with george w. bush, his father, george h.w. bush did not face. he had no choice but to get into an early and rigvigorous and wounded campaign i would argue, though, and this is a point mark was making, there is no line between being president and being a candidate. this election will be determined by whether voters think biden
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has been a good job as president and whether going forward he would do a better job than his opponent, and we're not quite at that point in this political process. >> is it also going to still be as it was in the midterms, susan, about abortion because i know you guys have a new poll on that, and it's not just the president who's going to be talking about it this week, as mike pointed out, the first lady is going to be leading a panel tomorrow they've got a whole week of events focused on abortion access >> you know, one of the amazing things we found in our usa today poll is views on abortion, which traditionally have been well set, people generally don't change their views on abortion, they have been shifting in the year since roe v. wade was overturned, and one in four americans have told us that they have become more supportive of abortion rights over the past year as they see action by states to really restrict abortion, and that includes 28% of independent women
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there's no group of voters, swing voters that has been more crucial in 2020, and 2022 than independent women, and this issue has had a big impact and a changing impact on those voters. >> when you take it all in, from issues like abortion and infrastructure, over to donald trump's mounting legal troubles, 2024 as a major test, i'm going to quote him here, the nation is about to witness a bold experiment, it's a test of whether normal governing, building stuff, spurring economic development and job creation, trying to anticipate future challenges still plays a significant role in american politics does it, matthew >> you know, i think it's a point to be made, but i think we're in a unique moment, and let's say the candidates are joe biden versus donald trump, and i would argue, it's not only just whether voters reflect on what joe biden's accomplished, are they afraid of what donald trump
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would do if he returns to the presidency in any normal election, those things matter. the crisis is key, and in voters' minds, democracy is on the line, i would argue that roe v. wade played so strongly in the midterm because it was part of a broader sense of what's happening to freedom and democracy in america, and is this what the america we want to live in is like, and so in a normal time, of normal presidential candidates and normal political betters, what ej wrote normally applies, but we're not in a normal time most people in america think the fundamental nature of our country is at stake. those normal things don't apply. >> matthew dowd, mike memoli, thank you, guys, very much susan page, don't go far we're going to be talking with you in a few minutes. up next, what can be done after another weekend of gun violence acrs osthe country, including the deaths of several kids
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barracks, opened fire on marked police units with a rifle, and then took off. he later shot and wounded a trooper who caught up with him and killed the other as that trooper drove by the gunman then died in a shootout nbc's jesse kirsch is in cleveland. a father is being held on $20 million bail after admitting he lined up his three sons and executed them. what in the world is going on this weekend >> reporter: yeah, chris, and that map you just showed really underscores what we're talking about here not an isolated incident, not an isolated community, we're talking about across the country, shooting after shooting over, as you said, what should have been an entirely peaceful and celebratory atmosphere for a holiday weekend. i want to mention these are unfortunately just a handful of the several shootings that we have been keeping an eye on over the weekend, and kellogg, idaho, four people were shot and killed
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sunday with a suspect in custody there, according to officials. in washington, d.c., our nation's capital, an incident, four people were shot, including a teenage boy who was killed, according to officials in washington state, two people were killed near a music festival at campgrounds in what has been described by officials as a shooting at random. one of the incidents that's getting a lot of attention, outside of chicago in willowbrook, illinois, officials say there was a celebratory juneteenth event, a peaceful gathering saturday evening at a strip mall that turned deadly with reports of 20 people shot, one person killed during that incident again, 20 people shot reportedly, just one person killed in that incident. obviously even just one death is too many, and then in st. louis, ten people were shot in an incident, including a 17-year-old who was killed here's what one person said on the ground in st. louis over the
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weekend. >> ten of our babies shot downtown and a young life lost it's every parent's worst nightmare, tenfold >> reporter: that's the mayor in st. louis. and i want to also show you a stat, chris, that has been developing throughout the day so far. 315, that is the number of mass shootings so far in this country, this year according to the gun violence archive, which tracks these types of shootings. that's an incident in which at least four people were shot. 315 so far this year, and again, that number has gone up since we started keeping an eye on it today and just looking at all of our reports online throughout the weekend, the number has been going up throughout the weekend as well, chris. >> jesse kirsch in cleveland for us, thank you. back with me, susan page, washington bureau chief for "usa today. president biden tweeted last
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night, quote, congress needs to act on gun safety, and let me be very clear on something, if this congress refuses to act, then we need a new congress. we know, and we just talked about this, abortion drove people to the policy, but there is little indication that guns have could that change? >> well, i do think that crime is a rising issue that could become important in next year's elections. if people are concerned about public safety and with this number of mass shootings, surely most americans have concerns about public safety, then crime and public safety will be important issues not necessarily gun control, though the president's tweet is an acknowledgment of that that betrays little hope of legislation passing unless there is the new congress elected that has more supportive of limiting guns, and of course the supreme court has played a part in this. it's just been almost exactly one year since the court greatly expanded the rights of gun
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owners to have a constitutional right to guns outside their homes, and that is something that is having ramifications all across the country >> the supreme court ruling last year, expanding gun rights by finding the second amendment goes outside the home is, in addition to a number of lower court rulings against gun restrictions since then. i'm going to put some of them on the screen the biden administration wants the high court to uphold restrictions on people with domestic violence restraining orders i mean, so many of these things are things that people will say. this is just common sense, and yet somehow, susan, as common senseas it may seem and as much polls show people want them, they stay the way they were. >> yeah, and in fact, what we've seen in the past year since this high court decision is limits on
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guns being thrown out. not new limits being imposed on ownership of guns. you know, you think about somebody who has a domestic violence order against them, and how many times have we read stories about women who have been killed by abusers that they've gotten a protective order against, and yet they show up and harm them the administration has some hope that this might be a restriction the high court would overturn. it would first of all, to take the case, but then overturn this lower court ruling the lower courts have been responding to what the supreme court decided last year, that made it harder, not easier to control guns. >> susan page, thank you so much appreciate you coming on on this juneteenth. and coming up, we'll take you to galveston, texas. the birthplace of juneteenth, where the struggling black community there is still fighting for the freedom it was promised you're watching "chris jansing ports" only on msnbc
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it aims as well to help visitors learn to uncover their own family's history, including my colleague, craig melvin, who got an exclusive first look at the museum and learned about his own family in the process. >> that is your line and who owned them and in his will, where he's divvying them up. >> so my great, great, great. >> it's three. >> were enslaved. >> this wasn't that long ago, in terms of -- >> no. >> but this was the man who would have owned by great great great great -- >> absolutely. thank you for this this is great. >> wow the museum will open its doors to the public on june 27th and in the birthplace of the juneteenth holiday, galveston, texas, a once thriving black community is still fighting for the freedoms that were promised more than 150 years ago. joining me now, nbc news correspondent trymaine lee that fight continues, right?
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>> that's right. juneteenth, we remember, but we also look ahead. >> that's right, for a very long time, the fight was just to bring attention back to galveston, and to remind folks that folks that had fought and toiled for freedom, but now the fight is actually to keep their hands on everything that had been built by those people, the de descendants of freed and enslaved people that tried to build communities and houses, are struggling to hang on to what they built. >> we're at the southwest corner of 22nd and strand where the juneteenth story began. >> it's been 157 years since the very first juneteenth celebration. here on the island of galveston in texas where the last of america's enslaved black people were finally freed sam collins is the cochair of the juneteenth legacy project. >> we're at the colored church on broadway where the union soldiers would have moved through the city and posted the notice, general order number 3 on the door here. >> general order number 3
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required absolute equality, but it has been anything but absolute. >> people talk about black wall street in tulsa but there were many communities that were successful outside of those stories of places that were destroyed. galveston was one of those thriving communities. >> he says low paying jobs, a rising cost of living, young and middle class black folks fleeing for better opportunities elsewhere, all drained historic neighborhoods, and then in 2008, a near death blow to the black community, hurricane ike. >> galveston is a soaked and shattered disaster zone. >> 75% of galveston's houses and other buildings were taken out by the storm, including nearly 600 units of public housing. the primarily black residents who lived there had no choice but to relocate. between 2000 and 2010, galveston's black population plummeted by 37%
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the city was eventually forced by the federal government to bring some public housing units back then came the pandemic as struggling families dislocated, galveston drew in wealthy investors. >> so many of the homes that used to be occupied by black families are now short-term rentals. >> black families moving in? >> no, i have almost never heard of any black families moving in at all >> generations of june pulliam's family grew up in galveston by this century old house >> i recognize the front porch. >> it's the front porch of where we are now, my great grandfather, ralph albert skull, 5 the year of june 15th. >> folks used to call this place, island of color, a name that's faded with time. >> i guess what's at stake is just the preservation of this very important history they made homes for themselves, they educated themselves
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they formed organizations. >> i want to bring back black folks having some economic influence on the island. >> long time resident anthony griffin is breathing new life into old black galveston >> we want to put commercial development there, place a hotel on the other side of this street, be on three, four lots on the other side. >> his plan, buy up as much land as he can, to house and employ families still fighting for the true freedom processed. >> if you don't own economic opportunity. if you don't own land, if you're not able to fully participate in the american dream, you're not able to have economic equality. >> it's hard to disentangle but the land used to hold a black hotel, black restaurants, and a black cab company. he wants to bring some of that back. >> what happened >> you had a slow bleed because there weren't opportunities there, there weren't good paying jobs folks couldn't afford to be there, once the big money came n and so thousand they're trying
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to rebuild from scratch. they have juneteenth, the name, people are celebrating across the country today. hopefully folks are thinking about us, and pouring their spirits out, maybe something will help. >> and i understanding history is one thing but the future is another. is there any level of optimism they own the land now so there's that, right, and that's not nothing, but are there investors, are there people who believe the way they do? >> in small measure. the spirit is there for folks who want to see the community do well mr. griffin is one man who has been able to buy up the vacant lots there's a strength of pride and folks who were enslaved, doctors, lawyers, politicians who built communities and institutions, that feills peopl with strength, and the forces, the city is happy there are more tourist dollars and money coming in so there we have it. >> trymaine lee, thank you so much for that report maybe next year you'll go back and we'll see where we are in
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