tv Chris Jansing Reports MSNBC June 21, 2023 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
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department says there have already been 108 fires linked to lithium ion batteries and 13 deaths. this surveillance video from february shows just how quickly those fires can spread. so does this demonstration where a lithium ion battery fails or explodes, it can often happen because of faulty design or over charging. this is a harrowing video of a battery exploding right next to a child who barely escapes. we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports," let's get right to it. at this hour, house republicans plot their next move after the president's son struck a plea deal with prosecutors. they're not hauling a special committee session on hunter biden. also, grueling violence in the west bank, homes and cars torched in the after math of a deadly shooting.
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we're live with the latest. plus, taste the expletive out of the blue, a january 6th rioter who bragged about using a stun gun on police learns his fate from a judge. and the race against time in the atlantic, with less than a day's worth of oxygen inside a missing submersible, more ships are rushing to a search area two times the size of connecticut, hoping to find five people alive. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. i want to begin right there with the latest on the search and rescue with nbc's kristen dahlgren, we don't know for sure how long they may have breathable oxygen. we know yesterday it was 40 hours, now we're probably down to 15 if that was right. but clearly from the press conference we just heard, this is 100% search and rescue still? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, chris, and as for that question about how much breathable air is on board, they wouldn't field
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that today, they said there were a lot of factors that play into it. they were reluctant to give a number. and they did say repeatedly, we need to have hope. this is a massive operation. it is still search and rescue, it is still ongoing. so there are five vessels now searching. three of them arrived today. they are expecting five more on site, including a french vessel that has a remote operated vehicle that they say has incredible state of the art technology on board that is expected to get there sometime late tonight or in the overnight hours so they're hopeful for that. they are trying to zoom in on where these noises are coming from. the canadian planes heard noises last night, and again today. here's what they said when they were asked about it in the coast guard briefing today. >> with respect to the noises specifically, we don't know what they were. >> is it possible a ship in the ocean or even some mammals out there could mimic that kind of
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sound? >> so i can tell you from my experience with acoustics that there are sounds by biologics that sound manmade to the untrained ear. the people listening to these tapes are trained. there are a lot of vessels in the area, and they each make noise, right, so all of that has to be eliminated. >> that was carl heartsfeldt. he's helping in the search. he's from woods cole graphic institute. they have assembled a massive team of people with different types of expertise. one thing that is interesting, chris, he did describe it as banging, you have to keep in mind just how much debris, how much metal is in that area, so they say they know they are looking in the right place for the noises at least. they're hopeful that the noises are coming from that submersible, chris. >> kristen dahlgren, thank you so much for that. a federal courthouse in d.c. where a
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january 6th rioter has just been sentenced. let me bring in ryan reilly. a large sentence but quite a rant before the sentence was handed down. >> reporter: that's right. this individual, danny rodriguez is really very much so into the belief that donald trump won the 2020 election. that's what this is all about. his messages right after the 2020 election up until january 6th and after january 6th were all about keeping trump in power, and of course he drove that stun gun into the neck of former d.c. police officer mike fanone. so he spoke in court. he wasn't really apologetic. he didn't quite get to that part, but he said fanone had served that day, he referenced the bible. he's been doing a lot more reading. he tried to hint at contrition. it wasn't anything certainly over the top, and i don't think what he said in court before he was sentenced really did much to dissuade the judge from imposing a significant sentence here. judge amy berman jackson saying there needs to be a message sent
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that americans can't do this no matter what their political ideology and, you know, belief in what conspiracy theory, they can't storm the u.s. capitol. danny rodriguez was sentenced to 12 1/2 years. a bit shy of what prosecutors wanted. they want the 14 sentences. after the sentence was imposed according to mike fanone and multiple others in the room, actually when he was being led back this individual declared that trump had won, in fact, yelling that as he was being headed out of courtroom to spend the next decade behind bars by the u.s. marshals. he's sort of going down still believing the lies about the 2020 election as millions of americans do, and that's a message that i think the judge here really wanted to get home is that no matter your believes, you cannot do what this individual did on january 6th. >> ryan reilly thank you for that. meantime, there's been a violent attack in the occupied west bank, this time involving
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israeli settlers who set fires to the homes and cars of palestinians. nbc's meagan fitzgerald is following the story. they were seeking retribution for a deadly shooting, what more can you tell us? >> reporter: you're absolutely right. what we have seen in the region the last several days is some of the most fierce fighting we have seen in years. we'll start with today where we saw hundreds of israeli settlers setting fire to dozens of palestinian cars and homes, palestinian officials say one person was killed, but as you mentioned, this is in retaliation for what you saw on tuesday, killing at least three people inside that restaurant. then exiting and killing another person who was filling up his tank with gas. we know that a civilian was unable to kill, shoot and kill one of those gunmen before israeli officials were able to take down the second gunman.
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hamas, keep in mind, has said those two palestinian gunmen were members. of course, this then comes after what we saw on monday, which was some fierce fighting. israeli military officials saying that they went into the northern part of the occupied west bank into the janine refugee camp and they were looking for two militants. they conducted this raid. that triggered fierce fighting where we saw five palestinians killed, at least eight israeli soldiers that were injured, and we saw this helicopter gun ship firing from up above. israeli forces say this was to try and rescue some of their soldiers that were trapped in this hours long battle. this is the first time that we've seen this type of aircraft so we're talking about two decades ago. what we are seeing in this region is a continuous escalation of violence that continues to boil over. chris. >> meagan fitzgerald, thank you for that. and now to capitol hill
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where republicans are intent on keeping an investigation of hunter biden alive after his plea deal with federal prosecutors. nbc's ali vitali is on capitol hill for us. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, chris, we're seeing republicans continue to say that this is only further examples of a two-tiered system of justice. this is the same kind of talk that we heard after federal charges were announced against former president donald trump, but now of course we're hearing it in reaction to the plea deal taken by hunter biden, and we're hearing it from people like house speaker kevin mccarthy, but also from rivals who are on the campaign trail and here in congress, like senator tim scott who had this to say. watch. >> we cannot be the city on the hill if we are not first a nation of law and justice. we cannot fulfill our destination, our destiny as america if we do not have the lady of justice wearing a
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blindfold. we all have to be treated equally under the eyes and the laws of our country. and when the bidens get away with that, we need to thank god for senator grassley and congressman comer for doing their jobs. >> reporter: and it's what the senator is referencing at the end that's going to be important as we track this story going forward, chris, because there's a big question about the investigations that are still going on on the house side of this building. the republicans are wielding the gavel. chairman comer on the oversight committee vowing he will continue looking into hunter biden and any wrong doing he thinks will happen there, and on the senate side, we're watching comer walk with senator grassley, who does have a partner in senator comer as they push forward in the allegations. in the words of retired submarine commander, it might as well be on the backside of the
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moon. he will join me next to talk about the extraordinary challenges in the search for the missing submersible. we're back in 60 seconds. missing submersible. we're back in 60 seconds i will be a travel influencer... hey, i thought you were on vacation? it's too expensive. use priceline, they've got deals no one else has. what about work? i got you.
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looking great you guys! ♪ go to your happy price ♪ ♪ priceline ♪ the search for the missing titanic submersible is becoming more desperate by the hour with dwindling breathable oxygen in that vessel right now, but a lot more equipment and personnel heading to the area. the u.s. coast guard just gave an update last hour on the size and complexity of the search area. >> the surface search is now approximately two times the size of connecticut and the sub surface search is up to 2 1/2 miles deep. exponentially expanding the size of the search area. >> it is a search and rescue mission 100%. we are smack dab in the middle of search and rescue, and we'll continue to put every available asset we have in an effort to find the titan and the crew members. >> i want to bring in captain david markay, retired submarine
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commander for the u.s. navy. it's good to have you back. we had another expert on the last hour who was listening to the press conference along with us. he has never seen a mobilization like this, either of equipment or manpower even in a movie he said. what is your level of confidence that given everything that's going to that site right now that there really is still hope for those five people to be found alive? >> because we haven't gone 96 hours yet, but hope is dwindling and my level of confidence in the successful resolution is low here. we need to find them first, and i think they're on the bottom, probably somewhere amongst the debris field. the good news is we're getting more ships that have rovs that can search for them down there. the bad news is we have more ships where we can have a sailor, a sailor on one of the ships has a weekly routine, every wednesday afternoon, change the oil filter, he goes
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to change the oil filter and can't get it off, and he bangs on it, and now the airplanes detect banging, and we locate it, oh it's near the titanic, send the rov over, we can't find anything. we need discipline in the fleet assembling to not make any noise so any noise we hear is coming from the submarine. >> even the fact that they have heard noises, multiple surveillance planes have heard them over the course of yesterday and today, even given that, how difficult is it, then, to take that information and really figure out where it's coming from? >> so these planes are propping what we call sono buoys, they look like a poster tube. and they drop out of the airplane, antenna stays on the surface, and they go down a little cable underwater, and they're listening. now, they're listening -- the ocean is noisy, there's fish,
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there's wind, there's wave. even an airplane flying over the top of the ocean will transmit noise, but they're looking for specific sounds that sound like manmade. if one buoy hears one, then that's great. it's somewhere near that buoy. when two buoys hear it, that's better, we can say, ah-ha, and we can triangulate it and get an area the size of a football field or maybe the parking lot of a mall, so it's a lot smaller area, but it's at the bottom of the ocean. it's pitch black, then we have to run one of those rovs over there. now someone is looking at a little screen, use ago joy stick to drive a pattern so they don't miss anything. they've got the lights from the rov going, and they're just peering into this darkness, hoping to find the submarine and not just another piece of wreckage that's broken off from the titanic. >> painstakingly difficult doesn't even begin to describe
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it. it sounds like, as you say, that's only the first part of it, which is to actually locate this. there are a number of possibilities, one of them is that somehow it got stuck, right, trapped in the titanic. there was one man who took a similar trip and he recalled the serious problem he faced. let me play that for you. >> we got slammed right into the blades. the propeller became trapped behind the blades of the propeller, and not only did we feel the collision, but also huge pieces of the titanic started falling down on us, and we knew we were in trouble, as our pilot tried to jog us out and he wasn't succeeding, i finally really hit a brick wall and realized, no this is the end of it, and this voice in my head said to me, and i'll never forget the words, this is how it's going to end for you. so sick to my stomach to think of those poor people down there. i know what it's like.
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>> the emotion of that really hits you, but is that one of the better case scenarios that they are there in the titanic. they are not, i don't know, they're in a findable place, essentially, because the titanic would seem to be a big place where they would focus the search. >> yeah, i think that's probably -- i would call that one of the worst case scenarios. >> worst case. okay. >> yeah, first of all, they shouldn't be going that close that they could accidentally bump into the ship and get caught in there, because part two of this after we find them is we got to reel them up. fortunately the navy has a deep cable system which is designed to take apart, put on airplanes and sent out there. it's been sent out to newfoundland, it's out there, and they're going to mount it on a big oil service ships and take it out there. hope flip tllre o
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time, but if it's just sitting on the bottom, then i can use an rov, grab the cable, hook it into the submarine, and i can visualize it, it comes up clean. but if it's inside or underneath or underneath the propeller, man, you got a big problem there. >> so finally, tell me what you're going to be looking for in terms of information over the next 12, 24 hours, what you're going to h t hear from the coast guard, what kind of information will tell us whether or not there is still hope? >> yeah, number one is locating them and locating them with high certainty, which means to me one of the underwater rovs sees it and has been able to go around it, inspect the hull and the hull seems in tact, which means there's probably air inside still and that people have a chance of being alive. that's what we're looking for. a, finding it, inspecting it, having it seen in tact.
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then we get the hook down, we get them up, we get them out of there. >> captain david marquet, if only that would happen. we appreciate you and sharing your expertise at this time. appreciate it. we're also keeping a close eye on the breaking news out of paris where authorities now say at least 29 people were wounded. four seriously by explosion in the city center. i want to bring in nbc's ali arouzi. what do we know about what happened here? >> hey, chris, as a massive blast hit the building in paris's left bank, it ignited a huge fire that sent smoke soaring across the paris skyline and prompted evacuation of a lot of the buildings around it. the building charged in the fifth hour on these in the capital's latin quarter, and the building was engulfed by flames, much of it appears to have collapsed. the building was identified as the paris american academy
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private design school for international students. now, there are numerous firefighters and police on the scene. about 270 firefighters and 70 fire trucks. we also got a statement from kent state university in ohio, they said that they were aware of the explosion. they have nine students at the academy as well as faculty and staff. they were contacting the students, they've heard from nine of the students, all the students they had there that were all thankfully safe. there was concern about them initially. we heard the mayor of paris, interior minister on the scene, they are warning people not to go to the area where the explosion took place and it's also known as a very student populated area. we've also heard eyewitness accounts, chris, from people that were there. they say they heard a huge boom, a ball of fire, about 100 feet high in the air before the building collapsed. there was also a lot of smell of
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gas, but the french police say they're still investigating the exact cause of the explosion. >> ali arouzi, thank you. i know if there's additional information you'll keep us posted. much appreciated. supreme court justice samuel alito defending taking luxury gifts from a hedge fund billionaire, the questions about the lack of ethics rules for the nation's highest courts. that's next. hics rules for the nation's highest courts. that's next. hah! kelly clarkson, we have a kid... and harold. wayfair's got just what you need... performance fabrics, stains don't stand a chance. no chance! -woo! dog friendly and wallet friendly... pug-proved. get nice things with nice prices at wayfair. ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪ ♪
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an extraordinary and highly unusual back and forth between investigative reporters and supreme court justice samuel alito. a brand new report from propublica details how in 2008 justice alito took a luxury alaska fishing trip with conservative hedge fund billionaire paul singer, which alito declined to note in his financial closures. singer's hedge fund has repeatedly had business before the supreme court. alito has never recused himself. now, even before that story was published, justice alito responded in a "wall street journal" op-ed saying he followed what he understood to be standard practice, and that he was under no obligation to recuse himself in any cases connected to singer. nbc supreme court reporter, lawrence hurley is following this report for us. and criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos. so lawrence, what else did we
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learn from the propublica reporting, and how is justice alito responding? >> there's two key claims made in the story, one is that justice alito should have disclosed this trip on a private jet that he took to alaska fishing trip back in 2008. and in the second thing, he should have recused from these cases involving singer's company that were before the supreme court in the years after this trip. justice alito in this unusual op-ed in the "wall street journal" rejects both of those claims. he says that in terms of the disclosure, under the rules that existed at the time, he wasn't required to disclose it. that's a similar point to the one that justice thomas made in the similar claims about him traveling on the jet owned by another billionaire, harlan crow and both justices made the same point that the rules that were just changed earlier this year to make it clear that you do have to disclose travel on a private jet, back then he didn't have to say that, and for the
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recusal, he says he didn't even know singer that well. his relationship with him was very limited. his engagement with him was limited and also that he didn't even know that his companies, singer himself was associated with these cases that were before the supreme court. although, it has to be pointed out that it was widely known and reported at the time that the company and his name was associated with those cases. >> at the very least, when you're talking about a flight that under normal circumstances would cost $100,000 for a passenger, is there at least danny, the appearance of conflict here. >> a supreme court justice is by definition a professional opinion writer and a professional opinion writer on the most opinion writing body in our country, so when this supreme court justice wrote an op-ed, i was ready to be persuaded. i was not persuaded. and the air fare argument was one of the weaker arguments that
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i think alito made. >> the seat would have been empty anyway, isn't that what he said? >> that's the argument. number one, the law does require disclosure of private flights. alito's argument was essentially, well, they'd already made their arrangements and this was a seat on a private jet that would have gone empty otherwise. i struggled to come up with an analogy, but it's almost like if i drove a ferrari up to a cliff and gently pushed and said, well, it's either going to go over the cliff or take the ferrari because other side it's going into the crevasse. i don't know that you can argue that a private jet flight is not just a seat on a plane. it's lobster, it's catered food. >> i do not know that, but i'm going to take your word for it. >> i have no idea what it is. no personal knowledge, but everybody knows a private jet flight is so much more than an empty seat that would have gone empty no matter what, and alito describing it that way in his
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op-ed is tone deaf, the same way he describes this trip as a rustic fishing outing. this was a rich guy trip. you see these all the time, going fishing, hunting, whatever it is, i haven't been on to any of them, i have friends, they know who they are, they go on these trips. i don't. they are what they are, he needs to be honest about that. his op-ed, i had a lot of expectations out of someone who writes persuasively at the highest level, and i was not persuaded, and a lot of other folks weren't persuaded either. >> how does this report play into the larger ethics questions that are facing the court right now, from the average person's perspective is why don't they have to play by the same rules as other federal judges, as other federal employees? >> exactly right, and that may be a benefit from this controversy involving both alito and justice clarence thomas is that there will be a new look at ethics requirements for judges that at least hold them to the same standard as other federal
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government employees when it comes to accepting gifts and maybe clarifying so there's no doubt in justice alito's mind that he doesn't have to go, as he did in his op-ed to arcane sections of criminal law, a statute he cites, deals with the breadth of interstate commerce, a facility including transportation. that begs the question, when alito took the trips, did he look up all the vague statutes in advance or did he do it after the controversy crept up. i don't know which one is better or worse. the bottom line is this may draw attention to an issue and be cause for change. . >> danny cevallos, lawrence hurley, guys, thank you so much, appreciate it. a key primary in 2023 now telling us a whole lot about what could happen in 2024. that's next. lot about what could happen in 2024. that's next. *trade makes complex trading easier. react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won't miss an opportunity.
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in what is surely a first, india's prime minister, narendra modi, leader of the world's most populist country, flexed his interest by commandeering the north lawn, and literally flexed, leading a yoga class of hundreds, with richard gear and eric adams. next up, washington, d.c. where tonight, president biden will welcome modi for the state visit at the white house, just the third state visit the president has held during his presidency.
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cnbc's kayla tausche is at the white house for us. talk about the importance of the visit for the president and the prime minister. >> chris, india is a critical partner of the united states. it's not a treaty ally, but it is a partner in commerce and other issues, especially as relations with other big population centers like china have deteriorated. the u.s. trades $130 billion in goods with india every year. the u.s. invests $50 billion directly into the country, and india is the largest defense exercise partner of the u.s. so certainly that is a partnership that they want to expand. the white house wants to expand some of those partnerships on critical technology and intellectual property. where india has previously relied heavily on russia, and that's one of the main reasons india has so far been reluctant to condemn the invasion of ukraine, which is another area the white house will be looking for prime minister modi to make
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comments. experts from the center of strategic study says the white house will be looking to india which is a member of the so-called quad alliance with japan and australia. to make some new commitments to really help to defend against china's aggression in the south china sea, chris. >> president biden has faced criticism for welcoming modi. this is a rare thing as we pointed out, a state visit. india's democracy has been backsliding, many will say, under modi. what is the word from the white house on that, and what does he say to his critics? >> that's something the white house is going to have to defend in the coming days. no doubt about it, chris, especially given some of the backlash from human rights groups. the los angeles times calls it a swing state from autocracy. for visits like these, the thorny issues are usually reserved for other talks, other
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dialogues for another day with these pre-packaged deliverables, pomp and circumstance, offering that show of support. >> kayla tausche in washington, thank you so much. we want to take you live to the st. john's launch site where we're hearing from some officials about the latest on the search for that submersible near the titanic, let's listen. >> and the polar prince. the captain and crew have been steadfast in providing support during this very difficult time. we have been supporting the titanic expeditions for several years. the polar prince, a 72 meter vessel remains at the titanic set participating in rescue efforts, an iconic canadian ice breaker, provides research and expeditions, board services to clients, primarily in the arctic. the horizon purchased the polar prince in 2021. the horizon arctic is also involved in this mission.
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the 94 meter vessel is one of the most powerful and versatile offshore support vessels in the world. often working internationally, this canadian flag vessel has recently performed rig moves, offshore wind infrastructure installation, and surveys before returning to newfoundland and labrador. the horizon was on route to the site and returned to port to pick up equipment. late last night, the arctic crew loaded a rov, arrived by air to st. john's airport late yesterday. the vessel departed the port of st. john's at 5:00 a.m. and will arrive at the titanic site tomorrow morning. we are very aware of the time sensitivity around this mission. our crews and on shore team are experts in their field and will continue to support this effort in every way we can. we remain focused on contributing to the search for the titan crew and continue to hold out hope that they will be located and brought home safely.
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chief joe. >> thank you, shaun, thank you all for being here too as well. my name is chief pasel joe from newfoundland, and i can tell you that we are very concerned for the crew of the titan. we are part of the polar prince, its crew, and the work its done, this remarkable vessel, the captain and crew have been giving their expertise and professionalism through this difficult time. i also want to thank shaun and the support team here at horizon for all they are doing to support the search and rescue operations. i've been in constant contact with the operation team that the company had been reaching out to prayer groups across the country to bring the hope to this
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effort. we are praying for our friends on board the titan submersible. we want them to come home. we want them to come home. and we want them to come home safely. we ask everyone across canada and the world to pray with us that we can find and rescue the titan. thank you. >> can either of you tell us whether the polar prince has picked up any sign of life, sonar scanning as well. we heard about the banging noises. has the polar prince heard anything? do you have any sense from your technology? >> so the u.s. coast guard is leading the search and rescue effort as you know. we're taking our direction from them, and all the communication are flowing back through them. they had a fairly in-depth conference about an hour and a half ago, i think, and they've covered all of that. so we have nothing further about
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that. >> reporter: what has the crusade about the conditions out there? how difficult is it to operate? >> the north atlantic is always a challenging place, especially in the region we're in. the weather is not overly significant at this point but it always presents a challenge in the region. >> reporter: the prince lost contact with the submersible on sunday morning. be realistic, how optimistic are you that you will find the submersible and rescue the men on it? >> the equipment that's been mobilized for this is the finest in the world, the most capable in the world, we have to hold out hope. i think as you're aware, there's still life support available on the submersible, and we will continue to hold out hope until the very end. >> reporter: how much life support is there? >> reporter: shaun can you talk about the first time that you heard that you had communication after the dive began after an hour and 45 minutes after you
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lost connection, can you say anything about what, if any, communications you had when the dive started and that period of time that we don't have any information until authorities were made aware that the vessel had missed its arrival time to surface? >> all i can tell you there is all protocols were followed for the mission. >> reporter: technical details from the coast guard about what's going on, can you tell us about your staff on the ship, what are they telling you, what is it like out there? what's the mood on the ship, any of that that you can provide us? >> these are extremely professional and experienced crews. this is an unprecedented situation, but i can assure you they're handling their responsibilities professionally, and fully focused on finding the submersible and bringing those people back safely. >> reporter: have any family members gone out on the vessel? >> reporter: are there families aboard the vessel during the
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search? >> that's a question i can't answer. >> reporter: what support have you given the families? >> the u.s. coast guard is leading. >> reporter: maritime does a lot of different things in the world, this is one of them. i take it this community, this exploration, it sounds like it's been here for many years, they're friends, their family to you guys. you do a lot of things, but what is this situation like? >> core values of maritime services and horizon maritime services is customer-focussed and we're focused on all of our customers and the various missions we operate, and making sure they're carried out with the utmost safety. >> how many trips have you done with oceangate, and did you have -- >> reporter: is there anything out there that's capable of lifting this thing up from the depths that it's presumed to be and bringing it back to the surface? >> there's a lot of variability around the question you're asking there, but the equipment that is on site and coming to site is the most capable in the
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world, and some of that equipment is certainly capable of reaching those depths. >> reporter: how much time do you think is left if you were to have success, how much oxygen, how much time is left to get them out alive? >> there's variability around that question as well, patrick. it's difficult to, for me to give you any more detail than the u.s. coast guard has provided in their briefings. >> reporter: can you say exactly what time your vessel launched the titan, exactly specifically what time sunday morning? >> i don't have that off the top of my head, i'm sorry. >> reporter: can you tell us about the sense of urgency of getting gear off the aircraft, and on to the ship and out of here. can you talk us through that with people who are working. >> i've been in the marine industry since a young age, and i have never seen equipment of that nature move that quickly. the response from the u.s. coast guard, the u.s. military, the folks at the airport, the people
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here. various companies were involved in the mobilization of the equipment to the arctic. it was done flawlessly. >> reporter: can you give us more details about what that was? >> a deep water rov. >> reporter: and how long do they stay out in the search area, expect to be out there for eight days or so? >> how long can it stay out? >> reporter: how long will it stay out? >> it will stay out until the search is completed. >> reporter: can you talk about what if any communication the polar prince and the vessel had before it missed the time line that it was supposed to be surfacing at sea level. what if any communication did the polar prince have with the vessel before we knew it was missing. >> there was regular communications up until a point, and then i think as you're aware, communication ceased. >> reporter: can you expand on what regular means. was the crew doing well, was
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everything going as planned? was there any moment that they communicated that they were in any sort of distress of having any sort of issues? >> i'm not aware of the details of that. >> reporter: there's been a lot of concerns raised already about the safety of this and what oceangate is doing. did you consider that when you partnered with oceangate? >> oceangate runs an extremely safe operation. our full focus right now is getting that submersible located and getting those people brought back safely. >> one more question. >> reporter: at what point did communications cease? >> when they were diving to the titanic at some point. >> do you have a time line ton on that. >> not off the top of my head no. >> reporter: how often you were in contact -- >> that's it, thank you. >> reporter: how often were you in contact with the crew and what kind of information are you getting. >> we're in constant contact
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with the crew of the polar prince, our emergency procedures kicked in immediately. our emergency room next door is staffed 24/7 with a group of extremely capable people, and there's live communication with the vessel. >> how many crew are aboard out there? >> six. >> reporter: we've got 17 crew on board the ship. that's it, thanks. >> thank you. got to go. he was with horizon maritime surfaces issue one of the co-owners of the polar prince, essentially the mother ship, so when the submersible went down toward the titanic, every 15 minutes, they were in that constant contact with the polar prince. letting them know that everything was going according to plan. then on sunday, when they didn't check in, that's when this massive operation was triggered. i want bring back in nbc news correspondent kristen dahlgren who is in boston, captain david
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marquet, retired marine commander for the u.s. navy. obviously he said everything was done according to protocol. they were in touch with the polar prince until they weren't. anything else notable that you heard in the press conference, captain? >> yeah, so first of all, on the time line, what's been consistently reported before is that they commenced the dive early sunday morning, and then an hour and 45 minutes into the dive, they lost communication. so that would be the answer to that. what i heard that was hopeful was he talked about an rov that they had received from the united states government. i think what he's talking about is a system called a fadoss, a system designed with a long cable. he described it as an rov, and talked about it mounting on the other ship that was taking it out. that's a long cable, and this is what we actually need to get it
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off the bottom and bring it up to the surface. he said that ship would arrive out at the titanic site early in the morning. so potentially now we have a complete time line that we can get them off the bottom. it's going to be nip and tuck, right at the top when they run out of oxygen, but we need to find them. >> let me understand, assuming they locate them, and you have this u.s. fadoss, it goes down to the level of that submersible, it's able to hook on to it, and then under the power of that u.s. rov, it's able to in theory, bring it to the surface? >> it's a long cable, has a big drum, and so it's a system which is mounted on another ship, typically oil well servicing industry ship kind of thing.
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>> oh, okay. >> so it's designed to be taken apart, put in airplanes, flown to where it needs to go. it's designed for exactly this thing, go to where it needs to go. find a ship, and he mentioned the ship, which then was coming in, but then got diverted in to pick up a system which he said, he described as an rov. there may be an rov component to it. that makes sense because you got to hook it. but there is this big cable, and then that cable can then reel -- we used the ship's power and the cable system. we don't need the submarine to do anything at that point. it will reel it up to the surface. >> given the movement where that would likely be at the bottom of the ocean, how complex is it just to get that hooked on? >> it's not trivial, but it's been done. the system has been tested and it's retrieved -- it's designed to take things heavier than this
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submarine from water deeper than the submarine's in, so it is the thing we need there to get the submarine up. we just need to find it. >> well, yeah. obviously step one, as you were saying earlier, but kristen, i think the consistent thing we have heard throughout the day, whether it was in these press conferences, the two that we just listened to, the experts that we've had on throughout the day, here on msnbc, everybody agrees if they can do what captain marquet says, if they can locate it, there has never been an operation like this, perhaps more prepared to get the folks out of there, and potentially, in what many people would consider to be a miraculous rescue get them out alive, kristen. >> yeah, absolutely, chris, and keep in mind, these are the owners of the support vessel. what i heard in that press conference was them holding on to hope saying things like i have never seen an operation like this before. i have never seen equipment moved this quickly on site for a
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rescue operation, and that the equipment that is either there or is coming is the most capable in the world, so they are hopeful that they will be able to get those rovs, get those things on site, and be able to quickly, once they locate the submersible be able to try some type of rescue orientation to -- operation to get back to the surface. talking about the weather, we have seen tweets, and you hear things like 6 to 7 foot seas, and winds gusting to 30 knots, which sounds like it might be an impediment. he said the north atlantic is always tough and he doesn't see that right now as something that they have to worry about too much. chris? >> kristen dahlgren, captain david marqet, thank you so much, we appreciate it. jerome powell was in the hot seat on capitol hill today. we'll have a live report. seat on capitol hill today we'll have a live report i was diagnosed with afib.
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one week after pausing the yearlong inflation, chairman powell is teasing that more rate hikes are likely. cnbc's morgan brennan is with us for cnbc on msnbc. give us the whole story. what else did powell have to say? >> a lot was covered in the first day of testimony. the fed chair endorsing two more interest rate hikes. that's despite the central bank's decision to leave rates unchanged, testifying in front of the house financial services committee, chair powell emphasizing that the fed is in no hurry to hike rates but two more is a pretty good guess. inflation, too high, while he acknowledged it has moderated somewhat, powell said the process of getting inflation back down to 2%, quote, has a long way to go. for context, inflation is
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running at about 5% currently, much higher than the 2% fed target. it's down by half from peak inflation rates that americans experienced last summer. powell said the labor market is still tight, though there are signs that conditions are easing, for example, there's a recently increase in the number of people looking for work. and on the economy broadly, the fed chair saying it's expanding at a modest rate. consumer spending has picked up and housing remains weak. there was discussion of bank regulations after the collapse of silicon valley and two other big banks in march. discussion about the multitrillion dollar balance sheet which is being whittled down slowly. bottom line, while it will take time for the full effects of all of those interest rate increases that have already happened to quote, be realized, the expectation set by the fed chair powell is that more will still be needed, and speaking of more, we're going to get more of powell when he testifies in front of senators for day two.
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>> we'll be following that closely, morgan brennan, thank you. as ukraine pushes on with its counter offensive, antony blinken is in a summit discussing how to rebuild ukraine once the war is overment the scale of the destruction is staggering, unlike anything since world war ii, and there is no end in sight to the fighting. the sums are also extraordinary, ukraine says it will take $750 billion to rebuild. nbc's raf sanchez is reporting from kharkiv, ukraine, one city that has seen the full force of russia's invasion. what are you seeing, raf? >> reporter: chris, we are seeing devastation on a scale unlike anything in 70 years. here in kharkiv alone, there are more than 4 1/2 thousand damaged apartment buildings. we went to visit one in the north of the city earlier this week, and we met a woman who lived in one of those apartments, her name is
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svetlana, she's a psychologist, and, chris, i asked her, what were the first things she saved from her apartment as those russian shells started flying down. take a listen to what she had to say. >> and when i go in my flat, i look around. it's -- >> reporter: explosion, explosion. >> yes. i think stop, don't worry, and i try -- >> reporter: try to gather up your photographs? >> sure. >> reporter: the first thing you took were the photos. >> at first it was letters from my mother. >> reporter: letters from your mom. handwritten. >> yes, yes. >> reporter: those are the first things you have to save. and, chris, i have been all over
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the world in war zones, in natural disaster, and when you ask people what is the first thing you save from your house or your apartment, the answer wherever you go is always the same, people save their family photographs. chris. >> we only have a minute left, but when we talk about rebuilding after the war and as you say, you have been to many war zones, they're notoriously around the world rife with corruption. what's the conversation there as clearly the request is going to be for billions of dollars to come in from other countries. >> reporter: yeah, so ukraine still ranks very poorly on global corruption indexes, but we have heard the same answer from every ukrainian official we have put the question to, can american taxpayers feel confident that if the u.s. gives billions to rebuild this country, it's actually going to get to people like svetlana who need it. it's not going to be stolen by corruption. the answer we get from ukrainian officials is a new ukraine is
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being built from the fires in the war, committed to a culture where corruption is no longer tolerated in the way it once was, and they say they need the help, they want to be part of the west, and if it's given, they'll use it appropriately. chris. >> we like to leave on a message of hope, whether it's for people caught at the bottom of the sea or people who will have to deal with the after math of an extraordinarily brutal war. raf sanchez, thank you so much for your reporting. that's going to do it for us this hour. join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. they have heard something, but so far have not seen anything. searchers combing both the surface and the seabed are still looking for the submersible that disappeared near the wreckage of the
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