retired cia officer and former texas congressman will hurd announced this morning that he is joining the race for the republican presidential nomination launching a long shot bid as a moderate alternative to gop hard-liners. and that does it for us this morning, we'll be right back here tomorrow, yasmin vossoughian picks up the coverage right now. ♪♪ it is 10:00 a.m. in the east, everybody, i'm yasmin vossoughian. good to see you this morning in for ana cabrera today at msnbc here in new york city. we are watching three major stories this hour, first up we got the supreme court. today is a day where we could see historic rulings on affirmative action, student loans, gay rights as well. we're watching that very closely. second at the white house, president biden rolling out the red carpet for india's prime

minister for a state visit. looking at pictures there now, india of course a critical ally to the united states at a time when relations with china are more strained. and then in the north atlantic ocean, a final push to findsubmersible, the big question this hour, have they run out of air. and we want to begin with that story, the critical deadline in the search for that submersible with five people on board that went missing on a voyage to the titanic. the u.s. coast guard estimates that oxygen may have run out as two new search vessels arrived this morning. we want to go right to tom costello. bring us up to date, where are we on search efforts this morning? >> reporter: absolutely. and from boston coast guard command center, here's the latest. we are now well past that 96-hour window when they thought air might start to just simply be gone, that it might be exhausted inside that sub. keep in mind, the sub went into

the water sunday morning 8:00 a.m. or so, and so now we are well past that, four days. this morning more on site resources. we mentioned canadian coast guard vessels are on site. we've got photos of one of them that arrived this morning, then in addition an arctic research vessel has arrived on site. that has already dropped a robotic submarine, if you will, an rov down to the bottom of the ocean. looking for any signs of this missing sub. we've also got a new french ship that has arrived on scene. it has also now dropped an rov down. however, as we made perfectly clear, the clock has now expired on that 96-hour window. hope, however, is still very much alive. an already urgent effort to find that missing sub in the north atlantic is kicking into an even higher gear this morning as rescuers face an incredibly ominous fight against time. with the supply of air on the

vessel that disappeared on a dive to the titanic wreck believed to be nearing its end. still, the coast guard and others are not slowing their efforts. additional resources coming in by air and sea overnight and throughout the day. >> this is a search and rescue mission 100%. we'll continue to put every available asset we have. >> reporter: on wednesday canadian air crews who dropped sonar buoys into the water reported once again hearing unusual noises in the water, which some said sounded like banging. experts are using specialized acoustic equipment to analyze the sounds to rule out other ships or marine life. so far their effort to identify a source has been inconclusive. the bottom line is there are a lot of sounds in the ocean. >> that's right. the needle in the haystack is to separate that signal that they want to hear from all the other sounds that are happening there. >> now video is emerging captured by a crew member on board the sun's mother ship showing, she says, the moments the submersible began its

descent. for family and friends of the five people aboard that sub owned by oceangate and dubbed titan, it's been an especially stressful time. >> i'm in a state of shock at the moment. >> reporter: in pakistan, mohammad hajim says he's had a tough time sleeping. his long time and friend and his son are still down there. >> he was very adventurous, but from inside he was a very soft, kind, and very selfless kind of a person. >> reporter: titan lost contact on sunday during what should have been another submersible journey to the titanic's resting place. discovery's josh gate went inside the sub during a test phase in 2021 filming for his show expedition unknown. >> there are aspects of the sub's designs that are incredibly impressive. >> reporter: but he says ultimately they scrapped plans to do an episode going all the way down to titanic. >> you know, we had issues with thruster control, we had issues with the computers aboard. we had issues with coms. i just felt as though the sub

needed more time, and it needed more testing, frankly. >> reporter: we've talked to a lot of experts in the last few hours, retired u.s. sub commanders, for example, other experienced divers, all of them are at this point very pessimistic that a rescue could be effected, even if they find that sub at this very moment. it's not just a lack of air, rising carbon dioxide levels within that sub could prove to be fatal, and then on top of that, if they find it, they got to somehow use robots to connect a wench, again, no divers, connect a wench robotically, haul it up two and a half miles from the bottom. this is really, really at this point, it would be a hollywood ending. back to you. >> right, and they haven't even found the submersible as of yet. nbc's tom costello for us, thank you, tom, appreciate it. i want to bring in now retired u.s. navy sub mariner, brian clark. he served on multiple submarines over his 25-year career including as chief engineer as well. thanks for joining us, sir. appreciate it.

are you also pessimistic at this point considering that we have passed that window of available oxygen that tom costello was just talking about? >> yeah, yasmin, i'm getting more pessimistic every hour. although, i think there's a potential that they've been able to extend their oxygen supply and somehow remove some of the carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, these are pretty ingenious guys that are on the submersible, they're experienced. they've done these kinds of dives before. so they may have come up with some ways to extend their oxygen supply for longer than the 96 hours. there may be a potential for them to be still rescued. >> talk about strategy in sending down this unmanned submersible that could feasibly help rescue this crew. how would that work? especially when timing is essential, and they have not yet even located them? >> right, so the submersibles, the rovs that tom costello was talking about are going down to

pinpoint the location of the submersible because right now they just have sounds that they have triangulated to a particular location in the ocean, so they're trying to send some vehicles down to use active sonar and cameras to locate if that is actually the submersible that they're hearing and where specifically it is. and then once that happens, one of those rovs could attach a winch or attach a cable to it, but then you have to haul it up to the surface because the submersible is closed from the outside. it's bolted shut, so there's no way for the occupants to get out on their own. they have to be brought to the surface and that door has to be unbolted for them to be released. so they have to bring the vehicle all the way to the surface, and the navy is sending down a crane that is able to do that kind of operation. >> how long does it even take to get the vehicle back up to the surface? >> it could take several hours to bring it up to the surface because you're talking about more than two miles. it's obviously not going to be brought up very quickly to avoid damaging it or getting it

entangled, so they'll bring it up as fast as possible, but you're limited by ocean conditions, and you're limited by the condition of the vehicle if it's entangled in something at the sea floor. >> considering that they've likely already run out of oxygen supply, then they're going to need a couple more hours if they're able to locate this thing, rescue them and then over the next few hours bring that to the surface, hence the reason why it seems like there's so much pessimism surrounding a real rescue here. >> that's right. you're talking several hours still. >> can you talk to me a little bit about what goes into getting on board one of these things? and i ask this because i know there's been a lot of question per the company and how they prepared for a mission like this and how the actual vehicle was prepared as well and constructed. i also want to tell folks what we're looking at now. this is a virtual reality set that we had corrected here on set to give folks a real inside look as to what these individuals are dealing with as

they are on the bottom of the ocean it seems. a fairly small cylindrical shape here. when you prepare for a dissent like this, are there any kind of psychological exams that you have to go through being in a confined space considering there could be malfunctions like we're seeing happen now? >> well, normally there would be some, you know, screening, you know, that you do to -- before you put people onto a vehicle like this. in this case you've got paying customers. as it turns out, most of them have experience doing this kind of exploration before, so they've had experience being in confined spaces. so that probably was not as much a concern here. right, you would normally want to do some kind of screening to ensure people that get into this vehicle are going to be able to handle it psychologically and not get claus tree phobic. we're going to keep updated and bring you any updates as we get it. thank you, sir.

the president is welcoming india's prime minister to the white house for an official state visit. it comes as the u.s. works to strengthen its relationship with india on several key issues. nbc's allie raffa standing by in washington, d.c., as we're watching these pictures. we see the president there, the first lady as well along with india's prime minister momodi. india has the fifth biggest economy in the world. i know we're expecting to hear remarks from both the prime minister along with the president in a moment or so as they're taking the stage here. and let's listen in as they take the podium, and then allie, i'm going to come back to you after they speak. >> of the republic of india followed by the national anthem of the united states.

>> while we're waiting for the ceremony to begin it seems with the national anthem before both the president and prime minister get started, what are we expecting to hear today? >> yeah, yasmin, well, you're hearing that multigun salute in the background here as over a thousand people along with the president, the first lady, the vice president and second gentleman welcome prime minister modi to the white house. and it really can't be underscored enough how rare and important these state visits are. these are seen as really the greatest honor that the white house could bestow upon key, critical u.s. allies. this is just the third state dinner held by the

president's -- held during the president's term, and there's been some criticism over this rolling out of the red carpet for the prime minister for a couple reasons. there's been criticism over the fact that india has been reluctant to really take a side in ukraine's war with russia. we know that india has continued to buy russian oil since this war began. there's also been criticism of modi's really sharpening and directing towards authoritarianism. there's been criticism that there's been some abuse of muslims in india, and so what is -- what the white house sees as this key partnership as a tradeoff in strengthen his partnership with india as a key ally to be able to counter this increasingly aggressive china, we talked about how sensitive the relations between the u.s. and china are right now, especially in the wake of that

comment that we've been talking about that the president made during that fundraiser on tuesday where he called chinese president xi a, quote, dictator. and so this is seen as sort of a wider advantage to be able to counter that chinese aggression with a key ally in that part of the globe. and so we expect these two to have a bilateral meeting in the oval office. they'll then hold a press conference early this afternoon. prime minister modi will then head to capitol hill to address congress before coming back here to the white house for this state dinner. they're expected to announce a list of initiatives, economic initiatives, military initiatives that represent the partnership between these two countries. we also expect modi to sort of make the case for why the u.s. should increase economic ties and commerce with india rather than china. so a lot at stake, a lot to watch coming out of this meeting

and subsequent press conference between these two later today. >> it will certainly be interesting to listen to. you bring up a lot of good points considering where we are with u.s./china relations right now. the real decision it seems that the president and his administration is making, right, as to which relationship is more important here considering what the prime minister has done with india and india's friendship and relationship and continued relationship with russia in spite of its war on ukraine, but also how integral india is and their economy, especially to the united states considering where we are with china, i wonder, though, from the prime minister especially when he addresses congress later on today, if we're going to be hearing anything about the relationship that the united states has with pakistan, as we well know, the united states gives major funding to pakistan and certainly has relied on them in the past for national security as well. and so we know pakistan certainly is not an ally of india, in fact, is somewhat of

an enemy, and wondering if that, in fact, will come up as the prime minister addresses a joint session of congress, allie. but really, it does seem, and i think it would be important for folks to hear more about this, the decision the president and the administration is making really to stand united with india in spite of its relationship and ongoing relationship really, trade relationship with russia while russia continues its aggressive invasion on ukraine and is not backing down. >> absolutely, and that's been something critical to watch as we've seen india not necessarily stand united with china, but it hasn't necessarily agreed and taken a stern message of support necessarily to the u.s.'s stance with china, especially amid these sensitive relations. so that's going to be something critical to watch as this continues and especially because, you know, india is the world's largest democracy. so we've heard president biden

make this case of the importance, especially leading into the 2024 election, the importance of democracies, the importance that the democratic messaging plays on the world stage. and so that's going to be something to watch, especially in this press conference that these two will hold, something, by the way, that is extremely rare for the prime minister. this is going to be the first time he's taken part in a press conference in nearly a decade, yasmin. >> that's amazing, and let's remind folks once again, i said it earlier, india the fifth largest economy in the world so incredibly important economically and to have these economic ties between both countries. with these state visits comes all the pomp and circumstance, and that pomp and circumstance is continuing as we await an address from both the president and the prime minister. we're going to take a very quick break, folks, and we'll be right back on the other side. n count . and now she has myplan, the game-changing new plan that lets her get exactly what she wants and save on every perk. sadie is moving to the big city

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speaking now on the south lawn. let's listen in. [ speaking non-english ] >> i'm honored to be the first to have you here in 15 years. the united states is honoring and hosting an official visit of the republic of india. prime minister modi, welcome back to the white house. [ cheers and applause ]

[ speaking non-english ] >> we spent a lot of time together going back to when i was vice president and you had just become prime minister, and since -- and since i've become president, we've continued a relationship built on mutual trust, candor, and respect. the challenges and opportunities facing the world in this century require that india and the united states work and lead together, and we are.

>> with your partnership, we've invigorated and elevated the quad between the united states, india, australia, and japan. to advance our vision of a free, open, secure, and prosperous indo-pacific. decades from now, decades from now, people will look back and say the quad bent the arc of history toward global good, as the prime minister describes it. [ speaking non-english ]

>> together india and the united states are working closely on everything from ending poverty and expanding access to health care to addressing climate change, to tackling food and energy insecurity stoked by russia's unprovoked war in ukraine. [ speaking non-english ] >> we made critical and emerging technologies the pillar of our next generation partnership to ensure that these technologies promote and protect our values, remain open, accessible and trusted and secure. [ speaking non-english ]

>> all this matters for america, for india, and for the world. we face an inflection point, one of those moments that only come around every several generations when so much is changing technologically, politically, socially, and environmentally that the decisions we make today are going to determine our future for decades to come. [ speaking non-english ]

>> and as democracies, we can better tap into the full talent of all of our people and attract investments as true and trusted partners as leading nations with our greatest export being the power of our example. equity under the law, freedom of expression, religious pluralism, and diversity of our people. these core principles have endured and evolved even as they have faced challenges throughout each of our nation's histories and will fuel our strength, depth, and future. [ speaking non-english ]

>> and form a special bond among our nations, forged by the special bond among our people, a duty to family and elders, treating all people with respect and dignity, a premium on education and creativity, self-discipline, hard work, entrepreneurship, faith to community, courage in resilience, tolerance, and opportunity for all.

[ speaking non-english ] >> i've seen this dynamism on my visits to india. i see it in indian american diaspora, it reflects every part of american life and remains a bridge between our nations and only grows stronger with each generation. we see it with record numbers of indian americans serving in the united states congress. we see it here at the white house where proud americans of indian heritage serve our country every day including our vice president of the united states kamala harris. [ cheers and applause ]

[ speaking non-english ] >> the granddaughter, the proud granddaughter of indian civil servant, daughter of an indian student turned american scientist who came to the united states when she was only 19 years old to pursue her dream of curing cancer. a family like so many of ours in our nation that speaks to the thousand stories of determination, courage, and hope.

[ speaking non-english ] >> stories that define the relationship and the limitless possibilities between the united states and india, two great nations, two great friends, two great powers that can define the course of the 21st century. mr. prime minister, thank you for your partnership, and i'll turn it over to you. [ applause ] [ speaking non-english ] >> the president on the south lawn at this incredibly important state visit alongside

prime minister modi. after this they will then move on to the oval office in which they will hold a bilateral meeting and take questions from the press. the prime minister also addressing a joint session of congress around 4:00 p.m., and you all saw the pomp and circumstance leading up to the address there on the south lawn. the president reiterating the strong bond as he put it between our two nations and the partnership that we have as we spoke about with allie raffa a little bit earlier. this partnership coming at a very critical time between the united states and china and the fallout from that relationship certainly india with the fifth biggest economy in the world and continuing their relationships with both russia and china. that is sure to come up certainly, of course, in the bilateral meeting between these two leaders. of course we're going to be watching what comes out of the prime minister here today along with the bilateral meeting as

well, and then the president reminding folks, vice president kamala harris also with her indian heritage and how so many in this country come from india and contribute widely to this country. we're going to watch this, folks, throughout the day. a lot coming out of this meeting and this historic state visit there. we are also watching the search for the missing submersible. but will it be enough? we are live on the canadian coast coming up next. we'll be right back. from big cities, to small towns, and on main streets across the us, you'll find pnc bank. helping businesses both large and small, communities and the people who live and work there grow and thrive. we're proud to call these places home too. they're where we put down roots, and where together, we work to help move everyone's financial goals forward. pnc bank.

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welcome back, everybody, we're following that breaking news still on the fate of the five people on board that missing sub is unclear at this hour as the oxygen supply is dwindling, here's a virtual look at the titan to scale, which is just 22 feet long, by the way. search crews have already scoured a surface area twice the size of connecticut as the race to find it intensifies. i want to bring in nbc's ron allen who's standing by for us in st. john's canada as this search is intensifying and continuing as well. so you got this, ron, remotely operated vehicle. from what we're learning now, reaching the sea floor. they still, though, have not located where the submersible is. what does this all mean for the search? >> reporter: it means that it continues. it means that it becomes more desperate by the hour. the u.s. coast guard was pretty precise about when they think

the oxygen supply aboard the craft ran out some time ago, several hours ago, but it's unclear whether the team down there was able to extend it or not. there's been some speculation they may be able to do that. you're right, they have scoured the surface in a wide area. interestingly, a colleague flying here from toronto on a plane said that there was a message to the passengers to look out over the water as they were passing over the search area to see if they saw something. it's come to that. and now, yes, they are searching the ocean floor as well. there are more ships arriving with these remote operated vehicles, which can go down to the deepest depths of the ocean, and perhaps see something, attach some kind of a line, but then there's still a need for heavy equipment to be on site that can lift the vessel up, if, in fact, it's found. it's unclear whether that equipment has arrived or not. yet, still the words you hear here is hope.

we heard from the ceo of the craft, the polar prince that took the titan out there. here's some of what he had to say late yesterday. take a listen. >> our crews and onshore team are experts in their fields and will continue to support this effort in every way we can. we remain focused on contributing to the search for the titan crew and continue to hold out hope that they will be located and brought home safely. the equipment that's been mobilized for this is the finest in the world. the most capable in the world. we have to hold out hope. >> his ship has a crew of at least 17, he said. they are in regular contact with them. this is the ship that lowered -- that took the titan out there to the north atlantic. he's been in touch with them as much as possible. no clue as to what's going on beyond what we're hearing publicly from them, but you could hear the stress. you could hear the tension. you could hear the concern in his voice, and that's what you hear from everyone here in this

town who are watching trying to see what's going on. but again, at this point there seems to be very little definitive information about locating the ship. we heard these reports about noises heard, but they were inconclusive. that's where we are as the hours tick by. >> yeah, right now of course we're going to continue to monitor this story. with any developments please let us know and we'll come right back to you. we're monitoring that along with what you're seeing on the bottom of the screen as well, prime minister na rin dra modi, we'll bring you any updates from there. a new step forward in the case against the former president, donald trump, over those classified documents. plus, as i said, we've been watching the supreme court, a decision is out that you're going to want to know about. it is not one of the big ones, but it's incredibly interesting. that's coming up next. ing up ne. ♪ the thought of getting screened ♪ ♪ for colon cancer made me queasy. ♪ ♪ but now i've found a way that's right for me. ♪

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regarding water access for the navajo nation means that the federal government does not have to ensure water access for the navajo nation. that's a blow for the navajo nation. it's one of their most important issues. they've been fighting for water access. they say that the united states needs to do more to make sure their large swath of land, bigger than the state of west virginia is able to get water access, and today justice kavanaugh saying the law didn't provide for that and it's not up to us to rewrite a 155-year law. >> wow. that is incredible to hear about and certainly obviously very important to the navajo nation, that decision there. julia ainsley for us, we thank you. switching gears here, everybody, there were cries on capitol hill of shame. what prompted those outbursts? you're going to want to listen to this next. and now she's got myplan, the game-changing new plan that lets her pick exactly what she wants and save on every perk. sadie is getting her plan ready for a big trip.

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investigating the former president. democrats erupting in protest when the vote was announced. >> on this vote, the yeas are 213, and the nays are 209 with six answering present, the resolution adopted without objection, the motion to consider remains on the table. house will be in order. >> shame, shame, shame! >> there you hear that shame coming from the democrats, joining me now elena beverly, a former white house aide and former national director and david jolly, msnbc political analyst. elena, let me start with you on this one. and ask you what does it say about republicans about the gop to censure someone like adam schiff but not george santos? >> right, yasmin. so sometimes the best compliment are the people who consider you their enemy because here they're censuring adam schiff for standing up for democracy,

ensuring and running down the claims that donald trump was colluding with russia in the 2016 elections. they made him the boogeyman of the republican party. so this is really just political optics and trying to demonstrate that they are coming down hard on the man that has come down hard on donald trump. he handled this with dignity and explained that this is, in fact, a compliment to him for doing his job effectively. >> david jolly, is this about '24? is this about looking ahead? is this about the trump voter? >> you know, it certainly is. i think it is, though, as much about retribution, and i think that's what we can draw from this. it's hard if you're not a republican today to sometimes recognize the deep conviction that republicans have that there was indeed a witch hunt against donald trump, despite the facts that we know. we know through our intelligence agencies that russia interfered in the election, and we know among 100 other pieces of

information that donald trump's campaign manager shared internal polling with a russian asset. is that grounds for congress to launch an investigation and adam schiff lead that investigation? of course it is. what we learned yesterday is republicans deeply believe that adam schiff led a witch hunt and misled the nation, and they used their power to censure him. i think it also tells us two things about the current republican party. one, this new crop of elected republicans are leading this effort. this was a freshman member of congress that did it. and then secondly, kevin mccarthy as leader has to bow to that new crop because he doesn't have the power to contain it. this is a time stamp of today's republican party. >> when we're looking at this classified documents case with regards to the former president and the evidence that has now been handed over to the former president's team so far, i want to talk -- elena, i'll go to you first on this -- about some of the polling that we're seeing, and if you could help interpret

this for us. coming out of cnn, trump's handling of classified documents, 55% saying it's illegal. 30% saying it's unethical but not illegal. and 15% saying that he did nothing wrong. but i want to add this onto it, 71% saying politics played a role in that charging decision. what do you make of that number? >> i think it's disconcerting, and he's going to try to use this as his talking points going forward, again, that this is the department of justice that is playing politics and this is all a witch hunt. it's all in a selective prosecution. however, i think there's another series of polls that the emerson poll came out today that shows that his support is lagging just a bit and desantis's support is increasing, and i think as we

see the indictment play out, as we get closer to trial in august, as he continues to repeat and almost admit evidence that should be used against him in trial, i think that we're going to start to see people moving away from him a bit. we're going to start to see his support soften. >> it's interesting you bring that up. david jolly, i want you to weigh in on this because i have some other polling from cnn as well, and i think that kind of speaks to what elena is mentioning, which is moving away from the former president. amongst republican-leaning voters, you look at donald trump now,47%. last month, 53%. ron desantis, same, same. then there is this, favorable rating, last month, for the former president, 77%, down to 67%. and the unfavorable rating up to 27 from 18%. >> yeah, the intersection of law and politics is a tricky one,

has a lot of fender benders if you will. >> you think? >> you see some movement around this question. i think the question is are you seeing the emergence of rational republican voters who are saying, hey, we really want to beat joe biden, donald trump may not be our case, are you seeing a moment of conviction where a small percentage but some are saying this is a bridge too far. i think history has told us there really is no bridge too far. what i'm curious about where we are now and seeing a shift in the polls is it really about donald trump or is it a reflection of the ground game and hard work of someone like ron desantis. ron desantis has a massive political operation under way. he's doing everything a political candidate should be doing. >> david, do you think that desantis has upped his game? because you and i spoke last month, i believe it was -- we speak so many times a day, not a day, but a month, these days, you never really know, but before desantis announced he was running for president, it seemed

as if he was losing footing, right? and the assessment was he was not doing well. do you feel as if he's doing better now? he's kind of gotten his rhythm? >> right, we don't know. what i would say is certainly his effort has to pay off in terms of voter conversion. they are touching so many voters every single day. massively funded operation that you probably see some. i think statistically we have not seen ron desantis breakthrough the ceiling that he ultimately has to break through to be a true contender for the nomination. he's trying. but he's someone that the more you get to know him, the less you start to like him. that's the drag on his numbers at the same time. >> david jolly, elena beverly, thank you, both. the deadline looming for george santos. it is about information he's fighting to keep secret. we'll be right back. formation hs fighting to keep secret. 'll be right back. from prom dresses to workouts and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss.

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welcome back, everybody. right now we are waiting to learn who paid to bail out congressman george santos. a federal judge ruled their identities will in fact be released today at noon, despite resistance from santos himself. nbc universal news group is part of the media coalition that requested the documents be unsealed. ryan nobles is standing by for us on capitol hill with more on this. ryan, i guess the question here is why did santos fight so hard to keep the names secret, and when in fact do you think as i said, noon, the names will be

released, what could that tell more about the story? >> reporter: yeah, it is such a great point. you know, the idea that george santos would keep these names secret, he has said is because he wants to protect people that have nothing to do with the criminal allegations that are against him and obviously there has become an incredible media circus around the congressman wherever he goes because of the controversies that are surrounding him. so he wanted to alleviate that pressure on whomever these donors turn out to be. but, there is a public interest in these facts, right? because the financial situation around santos is very murky. he went from having hardly any money during his first run for congress to, you know, putting out that he was worth more than a million dollars in his second run for congress and then also loning himself a significant amount of money to his campaign of which the details of where that money came from still remains a mystery. so that is part of why the group

of journalists that you spoke of pushed to find out who is behind the -- putting up the money to bail him out of jail, prevent him from going to jail while his case is pending and we're going to get that information later this afternoon. and then we'll, of course, see if santos has any comment as to why these individuals decided to help him out in this case. >> take us inside a real housewives moment on capitol hill yesterday. it was a face-off it seems with marjorie taylor greene. i thought these two were friends, but there were pretty harsh words exchanged. at one point, marjorie taylor greene calling lauren boebert an expletive. what happened here? >> reporter: since you opened the housewives analogy, they're frenemies, they're not friends. they're both very close -- closely associated with the former president donald trump but they're certainly not collegial to each other. and this was borne out in real time on the house floor right

there. and what we're told is that, you know, marjorie taylor greene took issue with the fact that lauren boebert had offered up this privileged resolution to impeach the current president joe biden and marjorie taylor greene felt as though she was just copying another resolution that she had already authored. there were some choice words between the two, of which i can't say on television, but suffice to say they're not going to be very friendly for the very near future as a result of all this. >> "rhocp," i would watch it. >> the reunion special, i would be all over it, for sure. >> that does it for me. thank you for watching. i'm going to see you this saturday and sunday starting at 2:00 eastern on msnbc. ana cabrera is back tomorrow. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning, it is 11:00