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decisions in minutes with major cases like affirmative action, student loans and lgbtq rights still undecided. this as tomorrow marks one year since the most consequential decision in a generation. >> it was devastating on top of terrifying, on top of infuriating. >> one year after the court overturned roe, where the battle over reproductive rights stands today. also ahead, the titan tragedy, what went wrong, and did the navy know the search was hopeless before anyone else? plus, if you've been waiting to buy or sell, you don't want to miss this. more on a shake-up in the housing market that we haven't seen in a decade. let's begin this morning at the supreme court where, again, we're awaiting news any moment with the court's term winding down, we could get decisions on some major cases, on affirmative action, lgbtq+ rights and student loans.
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while we wait, we can't forget the significance that tomorrow will bring, one year since the overturning of roe v. wade, a year that has seen opponents actively working to ban abortions. joining us now is allie raffa, nbc news correspondent ali vitali, and lauren leader, cofounder and ceo of all in together, a nonprofit empowering women to participate in the political system. let me start with you ali vitali, you've been talking to women impacted, patients, doctors, and more. how would you sum up the personal and practical fallout from this ruling based on what you're hearing? >> reporter: for the people i spoke to, they are feeling a lot of anguish on this one-year anniversary. it's a very stark contrast from where i am right now at the conservative evangelical faith and freedom gathering. you've got mike pence on stage behind me talking about how he's celebrating this as the one-year anniversary of dobbs. if you listen to the
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conversations that i had with these women who have had abortions themselves, they're feeling exactly opposite. take a listen to part of our conversation. when the supreme court's decision on dobbs came down a year ago, amanda was furious. >> i was outraged, but i was also actively undergoing fertility treatment, and so i did not think that an abortion was something that i would ever need or want because i didn't understand fully how abortion is health care. >> reporter: months after amanda finally got pregnant, doctors told her the fetus wouldn't make it, but also that they couldn't help. >> she couldn't provide an abortion. she couldn't do any of the things that she was trained to do because of the restrictions in texas, and as a result it landed me in the icu with sepsis. >> knowing that you had to get worse in order to get the care that you needed, can you just talk to us a little bit more about how that felt? >> it was devastating on top of terrifying, on top of infuriating.
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you know, we had already gotten this news that we were going to lose this baby that we wanted so desperately, and then on top of that, we had to wait for something even more terrible to happen. >> reporter: it's a scenario dr. babit kumar, a provider based in texas knows too well. >> have the expertise to help them, but we're in this very difficult place where we can't. >> how does that feel as a doctor? >> it feels awful. i have the skills. i have the training. i went to medical school, residency for over a decade, and instead of helping them i have to say no over and over and over again. >> reporter: and so of course ana, there we're seeing from people who have made these decisions for themselves and who are at the very center of this, both of those people, for example, from texas where we've seen restrictions placed even before the national federal levels were set by the supreme court. here in this room, even as we were listening to that sound, i heard from former vice president mike pence saying to everyone here in this room that he is advocating for a 15-week
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national abortion ban. that's something he would push for if he were elected president. it really does set the precedent for the rest of the 2024 field as they try to jockey around this issue, some of them skirting the idea of where that weak mark should be. others of them saying that doesn't go far enough. of course florida governor ron desantis put in place a six of week abortion ban in his home state of florida. even as all of these views are out of step with the national average according to polls we've tone over time. >> right now democrats are trying to fight back. we learned this morning that the president is planning to sign an exec ty order on contraception access. what more can you tell us? >> we know the president is limited in his powers here. we've seen that focused on over the last year since the dobbs decision, and so ever since then, this issue has taken on a whole new focus for this white house, especially for vice president kamala harris who's really spearheaded this issue since the dobbs decision. and in the last year, we've seen
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the president -- because this is really the only thing he can do -- issue these executive actions to expand birth control access, to expand abortion access. the two of them we've already seen so far, one of them is aimed at among other things making it easier for women to travel to other states if need be to access abortion care, and make sure that health care providers don't delay their access to that health care. another tries to protect their privacy, their access to that abortion care, and the one today is aimed at expanding birth control and family planning access. it's going to direct these federal agencies to suggest to them that they should urge insurance companies to cover all abortion care access, all contraception access that has been covered and approved by the fda. it also calls for them to look into ways to improve that access to make it more affordable. and ana, we've seen over, you know, the last year in poll
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after poll that this is an issue that has broad bipartisan support, this issue of support for the expanded access of contraceptives. later today we expect the president, the vice president to speak just blocks away from here at the white house to a group of -- to several groups, reproductive care groups, and that is coming on the heels of some new endorsements by groups like emily's list, like planned parenthood, the biden campaign manager announcing those endorsements this morning. expect it to take even more of a focus as 2024 heats up with essentially, you know, on this white house, on this campaign's win list is to codify roe into federal law. of course we saw that tried and failed in the aftermath of this dobbs decision. >> we have caroline kishner
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who's with us as well. in the year since roe was joef turned, 13 states have banned abortion, with some limited exceptions with many more introducing restrictions to make access more difficult. in the meantime, just overnight you have a judge in wyoming blocking what would have been the first ban on abortion pills in the nation. so i guess so much has shifted in just the last year. on the state level, it's hard for us to keep track of it all. how difficult is it for women to even know what's right, what's wrong, what the rules are in their states? >> you know, just last night, ana, i saw on instagram an abortion rights group in montana putting out a call saying abortion is still legal here. it's something that a lot of states are struggling with. a lot of states where abortion is still legal, they're trying to get out the message that, you know, even though roe v. wade is overturned, access is still
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available within our borders. it's a real struggle. i think it's extremely confusing even for me. i cover abortion full-time and it's really hard to keep track of the changing laws and the court cases and things being blocked and unblocked. there are a lot of cases still pending and i don't see that really stabilizing anytime soon. >> lauren, what is clear is public opinion is pretty strong on this. a brand new nbc news poll finds that a majority of voters remain opposed to the court's decision to strike down roe. 61% tis approve, including nearly 80% of female voters between 18 and 49, and even a third of republicans think it was the wrong decision. also, a vast majority of independent voters who don't like the decision. how big of an issue do you think this will be for voters heading into 2024? >> voters told us, democrat and independent women told us that abortion and guns were the
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number one and two issues that they are -- that are most important to them going into the election and a huge number also said that it was a deal breaker issue meaning that they would not support candidates that didn't agree with them on the issue of abortion. it's a huge factor and even internal republican polling, which was reported recently, found that the abortion is actually giving democrats the advantage on the generic ballot. republicans are seeing it as a plus 3 net for democrats on the senate races. i don't think there's any question this is a critical issue, and i think every democratic candidate running is going to be making a lot of hay out of it as they should. on the other hand, i think it's a very complicated and difficult subject for republicans because their own voters are deeply divided over this and feel that many of the laws have gone too far. this has totally rewritten the rules.
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>> the fall of roe came right in the middle of last year, and according to the society of family planning, there were more than 30,000 fewer abortions in the six months after the fall of roe compared to the six months before. so what does that tell you about the access to abortion in america right now? >> well, the chaos is real and the fear of women and doctors is very real, and it is having a chilling effect on women seeking the health care that they need or being able to make the choices they would like to make about their families, and that is exactly what the point was for lawmakers who have passed these bans. it is what they wanted to accomplish. but i think the bigger issue, which we are starting to wrap our arms around is the vast health consequences in states that have abortion bans or have limited abortion, maternal mortality has increased, and those things go together. it's the complexity of government essentially regulating health care. the consequences are sometimes unintended, but as you heard from ali's reporting they can be
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devastating, and i think we'll be hearing much more about this as the months and years wear on. >> thank you so much for the conversation. i appreciate all of you. and we have some breaking news right now from the supreme court. this is an 8-1 decision on u.s. v. texas, which was a republican challenge to president biden's immigration enforcement priorities, and i want to bring in nbc's julia ainsley who's outside the supreme court. julia, what do you know about this decision? >> reporter: hi, ana, we could still be getting more decisions in moments, but right now a decision that came out is in u.s. versus texas where eight out of the nine justices said that the states here that challenged the biden administration's immigration policy lack standing. they sided with the biden administration 8 to 1 saying that the states did not have standing to sue the biden administration over this policy. the policy allowed i.c.e. to prioritize who it deported from insides country. it prioritized people who were
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threats to national security, had previous criminal past. it was their way, they said, of trying to use prosecutorial discretion because they don't have the resources to deport all 11 million or more undocumented migrants living inside the united states. it's something the obama administration also did. it may seem surprising that you would have an 8-1 opinion in this court and that so many conservative justices sided with the biden administration here, but there's something important to consider, if they had gone the other way they could have set up a precedent that would have allowed or disallowed rather another administration coming in, say a more conservative republican administration, from allowing -- from allowing them to set up their own enforcement priorities when it comes to immigration. immigration is a federal law, and they want to allow this presidency and future ones to be allowed to set up their own priorities when it comes to how to enforce the nation's immigration laws. there is an important piece, though, that we read in the opinion where they say, look, if the biden administration had,
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for example, decided they weren't going to enforce any of these laws, then the states might have standing to come forward and say they would be unduly harmed by these policies. but they think this policy as it stands doesn't affect the ways -- affect the states in any ways that would allow them to have standing in this case. 8-1 opinion. they are allowing this administration to go forward with the policy. >> okay. julia ainsley, appreciate that bottom line here. again, biden administration can really prioritize going after public safety threats when it comes to immigration enforcement at the border. we know we're awaiting one more, at least one more opinion today, so keep us posted. when we're back in 60 seconds, titan tragedy, what investigators know about the catastrophic implosion that killed all five on board. plus, part of i-95 is reopening today after that partial collapse in philly less than two weeks ago. the high speed effort to get traffic moving again. also ahead, two republican lawmakers are looking to expunge
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both of donald trump's impeachments. i'll talk with democratic congresswoman zoe lofgren who was part of trump's first medical treatment trial. and later, outgunned but not out of the fight, a front line view of ukraine's war in the air. of ukraine's war in the air. (vo) this is sadie, she's on verizon. the network she can count on. and now she has myplan, the game-changing new plan that lets her get exactly what she wants and save on every perk. sadie is moving to the big city and making moves on her plan, too. apple one, on. now she's got plenty of entertainment for the whole ride. finally there! hot spot, on. and she's fully connected before her internet is even installed. (sadie) hi, mom! (mom) how's the apartment? (vo) introducing myplan. get exactly what you want, only pay for what you need. act now and get it for $25 when you bring your phones. it's your verizon.
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welcome back. a tragic ending after a desperate search, the coast guard says the missing titan submersible experienced a catastrophic implosion killing all five people on board. the news came after a canadian team found two debris fields consistent with an implosion. the navy also revealing a new detail about this disaster. the navy detected what they're calling an acoustic anomaly. on sunday the day the titan disappeared that seemed consistent with an implosion or an explosion, but they say it wasn't definitive that the sub was lost. let's bring in nbc news correspondent tom costello in boston at the coast guard command there.
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tom, what more are we learning about this catastrophic implosion? >> reporter: well, the navy says that it did notify coast guard incident command that it had picked up that audio signal that seemed like an implosion, but coast guard command felt like it still had to mobilize a search and rescue in case there were, in fact, people who needed to be rescued. so it went forward with that operation, and it wasn't until they put the rov down in the water and down on the ocean floor yesterday morning that they found the wreckage of the sub. the missing sub. what else do we know? breaking news this morning, the company oceangate announced just in the last few minutes it is closing indefinitely as it deals with this catastrophe and it mourns the loss of its ceo and the others on board. exactly how long will they remain closed, is that forever? we simply don't know, but this company now under intense scrutiny and its founder, stockton rush right there under intense scrutiny. he died in the accident, but he was already under fire for many
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in the community suggesting that the sub was not prepared, was not qualified for, not designed for going that deep, and now according to the coast guard, it appears it did, in fact, implode on this dive an hour and 45 minutes in on sunday. ana. >> there are still so many questions to answer about how the implosion happened, what was it that failed specifically. what was it about the design that may have made it vulnerable. tom, we're also hearing from the families of the lost. here's the aunt of the 19-year-old victim here, suleman dawood. let's listen. >> the thought of a 19-year-old trapped on that is just next level, because you know,s other crew members were older. they were there of their own interests. they were there for their own reasons, but suleman was just there for a father's day bonding experience. >> father's day bonding experience. we can all relate to that. what more are you learning about those aboard the titan? >> reporter: yeah, heartbreaking there. i mean, she's got a thick
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accent. we interviewed her from pakistan, but she was saying that 19-year-old really didn't want to go. he was very nervous about this trip, but he went to be with his father. and of course all of them perished. so now the question becomes who runs the investigation. we don't know that yet. it will be an international agreement between the u.s., canada, britain, and france who leads the investigation. it could be the u.s. because this happened in the u.s. coast guard priority search zone, despite the fact that it's in international waters, and then separately, you know, will they attempt to recover the remains of that vehicle. for that matter, what about the victims. that's very much an open question and not to be decided immediately right now. it may be just simply not possible to bring the remains of that vehicle up at such a depth. >> i know everything was just hoping and praying for a miracle and a happy ending to this story. tom costello, thank you for bringing us the latest. in less than two hours, a crucial stretch of highway in philadelphia will reopen to
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traffic. crews going into overdrive to get the temporary roadway in place less than two weeks after a tanker truck burst into flames collapsing that key part of i-95, and it has been an all hands on deck effort to get traffic moving again. crews even brought in this nascar jetdryer to help them work through wet conditions. this has been major news in philly with the local bars even live streaming the construction. nbc's emilie ikeda has more on the repair and how it happened so fast. >> reporter: a very different picture compared to last week when i was here. a total transformation, and crews have been working around the clock to make it happen. overnight, we saw the final paving of the roadway. we also saw the lines, the markings being laid out on the road, and we've seen this time line continuously remain fluid for a number of reasons when you consider the variables that go into a reconstruction process like this, including the weather, on and off showers
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we've been seeing, nascar lending a hand loaning its jumbo jet dryer if you will. the other thing that engineers are hailing as something that expedited the time line is right hear, this recycled glass aggregate. those six newly paved lanes are sitting on nearly 2,000 tons of it, and so that will serve as a temporary roadway. when that reopens, expect it to reopen in just a few hours at noon today. then crews will begin the construction of the more permanent overpass around it. i was speaking with the transportation secretary. he assured this is a safe and tested material utilized in 20 other states in various projects across the country. still, when talking to drivers about how they feel about the expedited process, the speed of the return of this roadway, a critical thoroughfare that 160,000 vehicles rely on, some expressed some hesitancy, but many are welcoming any kind of
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relief because of the snarled traffic we've seen across the region. still, keep in mind that we will see the number of lanes narrowed down to three lanes each way, and then those lanes are actually more narrow. so there will be a dip in speed limit, so we could see some lingering traffic, but overall, a vast improvement compared to the past two weeks. back to you. >> emilie ikeda, thank you very much for that reporting. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," what we know about the extensive first batch of evidence special counsel jack smith turned over to donald trump's legal team. plus, impeachment in the spotlight on capitol hill as some house republicans move to expunge trump's impeachments and an effort to impeach president biden. i'll talk with congresswoman zoe lofgren who was part of donald trump's first impeachment trial next. trump's first impeachment trial next
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developments in several impeachment fights, both new and old. on thursday the house voted to send a resolution from colorado congresswoman lauryn boebert to impeach president biden back to committees instead of to a floor vote, and so that will at least delay a controversial vote that moderate republicans want to avoid. this happening as congresswoman elise stefanik and marjorie taylor greene introtus resolutions to formally expunge both of donald trump's impeachments from house records. nbc news correspondent ryan nobles joins us from capitol hill. ryan, two impeachment stories here in one day. let's start with the biden matter. what happens next there? >> reporter: yeah, there was a period of time where impeachment talk was very rare on capitol hill, but that no longer seems to be the case. to your question about this effort to try and impeach the current president, joe biden, at least for now the house speaker kevin mccarthy has at least successfully rerouted that process. there's no doubt a significant group of conservative republicans, perhaps not the majority of republicans, but a
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significant group that seriously want to move forward with impeachment proceedings against the current president, enough so that they are to a certain extent making life difficult for the house speaker. it's important to keep in mind if this vote ends up coming to the floor, it's in a committee process right now, it is very unlikely, in fact, almost impossible that it would then lead to a conviction in the senate. it is something the senate would have to deal with. still, there is really no sense that there are 218 republican votes to impeach joe biden right now, but this is something in the committee process now, ana, it's not necessarily going away. >> ryan, turning to the trump side of things, is it even possible to expunge an impeachment that already happened? >> yeah, it's a great question, ana, and not one that constitutional scholars necessarily have an answer for. i will tell you this. if you have 218 votes, you could pass anything on the house floor. the question is whether or not
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it actually means anything, and in this case, there is an effort by elise stefanik and others to try and expunge the impeachment of the former president donald trump, both impeachments. at this point it seems nothing more than a resolution, not really worth more than the paper that it's written on should it pass the house of representatives because, of course, impeachment itself is only a house-led effort. it wouldn't necessarily have to go to the senate to effectively become something that is in the public record. whether or not it means anything really is a matter for scholars to debate. of course in both cases, the former president wasn't convicted. the situation ended right there. so it seems in many respects, ana, this is nothing more than a pr stunt by those, again, looking for cover for the former president as he deals with his current legal approximate. >> the former president wasn't convicted in the senate. he was officially impeached both times. joining us now is california
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democratic congresswoman sow zoe lofgren. i want to get your response to what's happening on the impeachment front. you have republican colleagues starting to try to impeach president biden, while there's also this separate effort to expunge both of former president trump's impeachments. what do you make of all of this? it's a tremendous waste of time. lauren boebert's impeachment resolution is nonsense. the constitution says you can impeach a president for treason, bribery, or high crimes and misdemeanors. nothing is even alleged in her resolution that would meet that saturday. and the other two resolutions to expunge the impeachments, i don't even know if you can do that, but it's ridiculous. you know, i was one of the managers for the first impeachment. it's worth noting that more than -- we had 52 votes to convict, 53 on the second charge. you need two-thirds, but
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certainly a majority of the senate thought that he was guilty and voted to convict, and as to the second impeachment trial, again, we didn't get two-thirds, but 57% of the vote is considered a landslide in most elections. 57 senators vote to convict, and the republican leader said he would have -- he found the president guilty. the only reason why he wasn't voting to convict was that the president was no longer in office. so this is -- you know, why are aren't we doing something to help middle class families expand their security, to gain further security in the economy? this is really a dereliction of duty on the part of the republican majority. >> i just have to wonder, you know, the way it's been just thrown around impeachment as if it's an everyday tool to pull out of the tool chest. is the power of impeachment what it once was, or has it been
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cheapened? >> well, impeachment isn't for you disagree with somebody. >> right. >> if you disagree, you can vote no, but impeachment is a serious matter. i think i'm the only member of congress who was involved in all four modern impeachments. as a young staffer in the nixon administration, i was on the judiciary committee during the clinton impeachment and of course the two trump impeachments. this is for serious misconduct, treason, bribery, or a high crime and misdemeanor. it is an important tool in the constitution. it shouldn't be degraded with these frivolous resolutions. >> let's turn to the developments in the ongoing special counsel investigation into january 6th. we just learned yesterday that a top trump campaign official who was involved in election day operations appeared before the january 6th grand jury. this is in the special counsel's probe. gary michael brown has been accused of being involved in
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that so-called fake elector scheme after the 2020 election. you were on the january 6th house select committee, and your committee subpoenaed brown in your investigation as well. so what information can he provide the special counsel, and what does it tell you about where this special counsel probe currently is? >> well, apparently they're looking at the whole fake electors scandal, which the committee did as well. we got information from this gentleman, but that wasn't the only information we got. there was a plot involving the national republican party. we even had tape recordings of staffers calling, trying to pressure republican legislators and state legislators to overturn the election. we have a lot of information that's open to the public. all of it's posted so the doj has it, and they have a road map on who to bring in to a grand jury. obviously they need to have their own testimony.
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but i'm glad to see that they are pursuing this. it's a serious matter, and the committee uncovered, as you know, a wide ranging plot led by the former president to overturn the constitution and to essentially have a coup. >> quickly on that last point, "the washington post" reported this week that the fbi resisted opening a probe into trump's role specifically into the attack on the january 6th capitol, on january 6th i should say for more than a year. what's your reaction? >> i was stunned. you know, it never occurred to me as we proceeded in the committee that we were the only people looking at the plot. and i'm glad we did because according to the post, the department of justice was sitting on its hands not doing anything. obviously the actual rioters need to be brought to account, but to ignore a plot that was led by the ex-president and
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implemented by a whole variety of other individuals ignores really the gist of the matter, and so i guess our committee played a much bigger role than i even imagined. >> thank you so much, congresswoman zoe lofgren, happy friday. for more on the investigations into trump, we are joined by michael zeldin, former federal prosecutor and former special prosecutor to robert mueller. you have this new testimony from brown who went before the grand jury in d.c. this week. you also had a couple of the fake electors we've learned who testified before that same grand jury on the very day last week when trump was in court on the classified documents charges. so the doj's investigation into january 6th has been going on now for a up c couple of years, where do you think we are now on this? >> it's ongoing.
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i think what merrick garland is doing is what serious prosecutors do, they build their case from the bottom up, and i think that "the washington post" may be right that it was taking a long time, but i think that's prudent in a case like this. and so what we see with the testimony of the jurors, not jurors, the -- >> these witnesses right? >> fake electors and mr. brown is a ringing around the issue of whether or not there was a conspiracy to defraud the united states by interfering with the orderly transfer of power. so those are key witnesses to understanding what was it that was going on and jack smith is either preparing for an indictment and we're somewhere in the seventh, eighth inning, or he's decided there isn't an indictment to be had, and he's filling in a report. because remember, he has the opportunity and obligation to write a report. so he might say, look, this is not an indictable offense, but i want america to understand fully what happened here and that's why i'm gathering this evidence. it could be one of those two
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things. >> let's take a step back and talk about the federal charges trump is currently facing involving the classified documents. we know just this week special counsel jack smith turned over the first batch of evidence to trump's legal team, and prosecutors said in this filing that these documents include evidence obtained through subpoena and search warrants, transcripts of grand jury testimony in washington, d.c., and florida, witness interviews conducted through last month, and excerpts of closed circuit television footage. this sounds comprehensive. it sounds like the prosecution, the doj is really just laying its cards on the table here. what does that mean, do you think? >> they want a speedy trial, and so what they're doing is giving the defense information that they are more or less obligated to but not so early in the process. they're saying, look, here's all the stuff. you can have it, let's have a speedy trial. you want that supposedly. we want that supposedly.
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so like calling a spade a spade, and they're taking off the table the possibility that there will be motions to say we want this evidence, we want this evidence, and you're withholding this. here it is, kitchen sink, you've got everything. let's go to trial. >> and what do you make of the conversation now around where this trial is going to take place, in the miami area, it's more of a conservative population in general. is that concerning if you're a prosecutor? >> i don't think so. i prosecuted in miami for several years, and we never had problems getting convictions in miami, and i think fort pierce where judge cannon sits is a conservative political base, but it's also a law and order sort of working class staten island-like jurisdiction, and those jurors understand the rule of law. they understand jury instructions, and so i think it's really much ado about nothing. if they have a case that they can prove to a jury, a fort pierce jury, a broward county jury, a miami jury will all convict. if they don't have the case, it doesn't make a difference. >> thank you so much for joining
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benefits. payroll. compliance. trinet. people matter. . turning now to the latest in the war in ukraine where the country's air force says it shot down 13 russian cruise missiles overnight. it's an impressive feat for forces that are finding themselves increasingly outnumbered in the war in the skies. nbc's news foreign correspondent raf sanchez is with us are from kyiv, and raf, you had the chance to go out with one of ukraine's helicopter units fighting on the front lines in the air. tell us about all of that. what was that like? >> reporter: well, ana, we drove
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out to this clearing in the forest, and these aging ukrainian helicopters are just parked there on the grass. there's no concrete. no runway. the ukrainians keep moving them from field to field. they worry if they keep them at a full-time air base, the russians will find them and destroy them with long-range cruise missiles. we saw up close the daring of these ukrainian pilots but also how outnumbered they are by putin's air force. two weeks into their long-awaited counteroffensive, ukraine forces are facing fierce russian resistance, and making slow progress on the ground. part of the problem, they're badly outgunned in the air. russia's fighter aircraft are far more advanced and there are far more of them. a comparison shows ukraine outnumbered 15 to 1 on both jets and attack helicopters. we traveled to a clearing in the woods in the east that's doubling as a ukrainian
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helicopter base. >> this unit has a dangerous mission. they fly out to attack russian forces, support ukrainian grown ground troops taking part in the offensive and then get back here quickly before enemy fighter jets can catch them. >> captain oleksander is one of the few pilots still in the skies. >> how does it feel to be fighting a full-scale war in your own country? >> translator: this is my duty. this is my task as well as the task of all soldiers, the task of all men he says. >> reporter: they fly just over the tree line hunting for enemy tanking and infantry, and with ammunition desperately short, they try to make sure every bullet counts. >> can ukraine compete with russia in the air?
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>> reporter: i think yes, even though we really don't have enough modern equipment for this, he says, modern planes, modern helicopters, but with what we have we are very successful in completing the task. british military intelligence says russia is reinforcing, which makes the plea for american f 16 fighter jets more urgent. it may be months before aircraft arrive. they will make do with what they have, staying in the air and staying in the fight. so ana, some pretty incredible flying there from he and his fellow pilots. they said to us that they need more ammunition, modern aircraft, and they need it fast if they really are going to stay in the fight. >> a really great look at what's happening there in ukraine, raf sanchez, thank you so much for bringing us that report. up next on "ana cabrera reports," a shake-up in the housing market we haven't seen
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here's democratic senator richard blumenthal on his finding. >> i'm not only concerned but i'm convinced that they are surveilling and storing consumer data and very private confidential information about americans and, therefore, we should be taking action. and furthermore, the chief executive officer of tiktok very likely lied or at least misled congress about what they were doing. >> senator blumenthal and republican marsha blackburn are now pushing for bipartisan action against the company. we're following a major shake-up action. a new report by the national association of realtors finds u.s. home prices fell last month at the largest annual rate in more than a decade. let's bring in host of public radio's full disclosure. robin, nice to see you. what's happening in the housing market now? is it finally a buyer's market again? >> no.
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in fact, i think it's safe to say we're in a housing crisis. there's not enough inventory. with the resets of the pandemic you have more older people, wealthier people holding on to inventory. it's frustrating people of lower incomes. we talked about millennials before. there are so many hopes locked up in the airbnb and vrbo markets. you're seeing very meager inventory out there. i wonder how it will play out if and when the economy falls. >> so the problem is there's not inventory. >> so little inventory. >> turning to wall street speaking of falling, the markets experiencing their worst week since march. currently down 164 in the dow. what's going on? why has it been a bad week? >> to quote classic, yes, i get up, i get down. it's all right.
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this is how markets work. markets are gonna market. we've had an amazing run this year. big tech has had a roaring comeback. you had the top five or six or seven of s&p account for 50% of the indexes. it's going to give back. that's the price of admission. you should be more worried if it keeps going up relentlessly. as we know, there's going to be a pullback. this is not correction and not a bear market. >> i imagine parent of the reaction here is to the comments we heard from fed chair jerome powell expecting more interest rate hikes after the recent pause. where do you see the rate hikes going or landing? >> doesn't it feel like deja vu that we start off every year romancing the idea that this is it, it's the end of the rate
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hike cycle and we can fantasize about rate hikes. we're told by the fed curb your enthusiasm. i worry that traders, investors, home owners, the banking market, there's something else going on. there's a great story in "the wall street journal" about how much ppe fraud has affected things. if you want to call it a bailout or whatever it was, the enormous amount of money that went into the system that hasn't been mopped up from 2020. >> we're all curbing our enthusiasm. i'm focusing on the fact that it's friday. that's my glass half full. thank you so much, robin. up next, the once in a generation 7'5" french basketball phenom whose dreams came true at the nba draft. >> i've dreamed of this so much. you know, i can't -- i got to cry, man.
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household names. 58 players picked in the 2023 nba draft. french phenom victor wembanyama went to san antonio as the number one pick. stephanie gosk has much more. >> reporter: they call him webby and this morning you can call him a san antonio spur. victor wembanyama, the 19-year-old from france was the first to go in the nba draft kicking off an exciting and emotional night for the league's future stars. with a once in a generation prospect waiting in the wings, one of the nba's premier franchises made it official. >> the san antonio spurs select victor wembanyama from france. >> reporter: 7'5" french phenom
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victor wembanyama, the first round pick. >> accomplishing something i've been dreaming of my whole life, hearing that sentence from adam silver, i've dreamed about this so much that, you know, i gotta cry, man. >> reporter: he hopes to follow in the legendary footsteps of past spurs who went first, david robinson and tim duncan. >> i'm going to try and learn as quick as possible. >> reporter: spurs fans in san antonio going nuts when the pick was announced. back in brooklyn, 58 young men shining and realizing their dreams. alabama's brandon miller and scoot henderson rounding out the top three. with the highly coveted thompson twins going back-to-back fourth and fifth. >> feels nice to make history
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with amen. >> reporter: on a night when everyone dressed to the nines brady dick stole the show with a nod to the wizard of oz. victor wembanyama is the second tallest player ever to be drafted first overall. it's his passing, shooting and defense that had scouts clamoring to get him. he's the corner stone of the spurs franchise. back to you. >> stephanie gosk, thank you. that does it for us today. have a great weekend. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern. 8:00 a.m. pacific. a tragic end to the frantic days' learn search that captivated the world. the submersible set to visit the titanic suffered a catastrophic implosion. now the search for an
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