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left. >> reporter: it all capped off a week of dangerous weather across the country with over 500 reports of severe weather since sunday, including a damaging tornado in moss point, mississippi. but after the storm, the community coming together. a high school football squad teaming up to clear debris. shying a ray of hope amid the ruin. miguel almaguer nbc news. >> we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports." let's get right to it. at this hour, decision day at the supreme court. justices give the biden administration a big win ruling eight-to-one against a republican led challenge to his immigration policies. and the search for answers after the titan tragedy, investigators now working to piece together the final moments of the crew
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before that catastrophic implosion. a light fast repair just days after a fiery collapse. the major highway that millions rely on back open for business in philadelphia. and attorney general merrick garland commenting just a short time ago on those charges against president biden's son hunter. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with nbc news's ryan reilly on what we just heard from attorney general merrick garland. unexpected for the attorney general to talk about it. he doesn't answer a lot of questions. but what did he have to say this time? >> i think based on the allegations that had come out through the whistleblower, he felt responsibility to lay it out here. essentially what he said is he has not taken any action in regards to this hunter biden investigation. take a listen. >> mr. weiss, was appointed by president trump as the u.s. attorney in delaware and
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assigned this matter during the previous administration would be permitted to continue his investigation and to make a decision to prosecute any way in which he wanted to and in any district in which he wanted to. mr. weiss has since sent a letter to the house judiciary committee confirming that he had that authority. i don't know how it would be possible for anybody to block him from bringing a prosecution given that he has this authority. >> i think what you're essentially going to do is take, you know, garland's long history of credibility and his former spot as a federal judge along with the word of this trump appointed u.s. attorney who said that he had ultimate authority in this matter, and then weigh it against these allegations that we are hearing from these whistleblowers, which are sort of second-hand recollections of what this u.s. attorney in delaware was telling them during this one particular conversation. from all of the available evidence thus far, we've seen no indications that merrick garland
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interfered in this matter, and we have seen indications that hunter biden was charged in this matter. and this was something that seemed to be controlled in all by the u.s. attorney out of delaware who of course is a trump appointee. chris. >> ryan reilly, thank you. now to the investigation into the titan tragedy and what caused that catastrophic implosion that killed five people. nbc's ron allen is in st. john's, so what are the next steps now? >> reporter: we're waiting for the return of the polar prince, which was the ship that took the submersible out to the north atlantic and launched it. this is its home base. we expected to come back with the crew of about 17 or so in the next 12 hours or so. we also believe there are some relatives of the victims aboard that went out to get as close as they possibly could to the search and rescue operation when that's going on. that's one development. out there where the tragedy happened, the coast guard says
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most of the vessel involved in the search and rescue operation have returned to their home bases. there are still a few vessels out there. there's at least one or perhaps two remote operated vehicles on the ocean floor trying to map the area where the debris fell, perhaps to try to do some imaging. it's unclear whether there will be attempts to remove the debris and bring it up to the surface, it sounds like a complicated and difficult operation. the coast guard emphasizing that this is a very very unforgiving part of the ocean where it's very difficult to do anything. it's still very unclear how the investigation will proceed from here, we have a number of nations involved, united states, canada, france, the uk and as we know, the victims are also from several different countries. we also heard earlier that the coast guard has asked the u.s. national transportation safety agency to get involved in this to help with the investigation. they of course look at all the crashes in the u.s. that's where we are, the investigations moving forward,
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about the crash itself, about the submersible, and whether it was, in fact, sea worthy for an expedition like this. a lot of questions in the community about that. and that's going to be one of the main questions going forward, chris. >> thank you so much, ron allen in st. john's canada. now, let's go to julia ainsley who covers that decision, is wasn't sure an eight to one was possible in the court, but here it is. what are the details? >> it's hard for many justices to find much to agree on. chris, they did, at least eight of them agreed on one thing and that was that the states of texas and louisiana did not have standing to challenge president biden's immigration priorities which allowed i.c.e. to go after undocumented immigrants living inside the united states primarily if they were threats to public safety or national security risks, had a past
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criminality. in this case, the justices said that texas and louisiana would not be unduly harmed by that and that states can't tell the federal government to go out and arrest more people. they pointed back to other cases of where people couldn't tell their own state to go out and arrest more violators of child abuse laws. it's simply not what the states can do, and immigration is a federal law. justice kavanaugh said they could have had standing if the biden administration said they're not going to deport anyone. this is part of the reason we're seeing so much consensus here. it allows any administration to come in and continue to have the broad executive authority to set their own immigration priorities. that means that right now it's a win for the biden administration, but if there's a more conservative, hard-line immigration policies that come in place with a republican administration, the court will then agree that they have that
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kind of authority to set their own enforcement priorities. right now, they're not even weighing in on this policy specifically, they're just saying, look, states, it's not up to you. it's up to the executive branch. >> julia ainsley, thank you for that. meantime in philadelphia, that section of i-95 is back open. less than two weeks after a fiery collapse. msnbc philadelphia reporter, lauren maeke is live on the ground. how did it done so fast. >> first of all, what you're looking at on i-95 is a temporary fix to get traffic moving again. they had workers on the ground working 24/7 to get this done. there was a live stream that people could watch to see that happening. officials here in philadelphia.
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they knew that the spotlight was on them with this project. for several reasons. first of all, this section of i-95, this a critical piece of road, not just here in philadelphia but nationally as well. transportation secretary pete buttigieg was here and made it clear that this was an important part of i-95, and that if it was down for a long period of time, that could affect the supply chain. that could affect how much you pay for stuff. there is also a political back drop to all of us, how we handle crises, hurricanes and natural disaster, and pennsylvania governor josh shapiro has been front and center with this. there has been quite a bit of fanfare to the opening here today. he had sports mascots out here. this was something that he knew
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people were watching. this is also a critical piece of infrastructure. that is an issue that is important to the biden administration, and they have made clear that the federal government will pay for the repairs here. president biden himself was out here in philadelphia this past weekend of talking to local officials about this project. talking about the importance of infrastructure, and also about the importance of union labor, which was used to build this fix. chris, back to you. >> lauren mayk, thank you so much. how do investigators find out why the titan sub imploded and why were so many warnings ignored. an underwater exploration expert joined me in 60 seconds. joined me in 60 seconds. ever notice how stiff clothes can feel rough on your skin? for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & gentle downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer,
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titanic sub imploded is a inextricably tied to a second equal question whether it was safe to launch it in the first place. the aunt of suleman dawood, a college student said her nephew had been hesitant about making the trip. >> he had a sense about things, and he had a sense that this was not -- this was not okay, and he just, he was not very comfortable about doing it. he was very very not into doing it, but it was a father's day thing. it was a bonding experience. and, you know, he wanted the adventure of a lifetime, just like his father did. >> in fact, experts inside and outside the company had warned that the titan's materials might not be able to sustain the
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incredibly high pressure, arguing that more testing was needed and the liability agreement, all the passengers signed, mentioned the possibility of death no less than eight times. according to previous reporting by cbs, that same agreement made it clear the sub had not been approved or certified by any regulatory body. i want to bring in tim taylor, ceo of tiburon sub sea. that's an obvious question, most people would make assumptions that you have to be certified somewhere. when i go to an amusement park and i want to get on a roller coaster or ferris wheel that has to have been inspected. what's that about? >> okay, so the problem here is going to shed a light on an industry that has been self-regulated for 50 years with zero accidents. what you need to do is divide this industry. the standards and procedures are in place. the coast guard has rules and
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regulations for submarines. this company didn't appear to have one. they were warned by the industry. they were warned by the industry and told that don't -- >> unequivocally warned. >> don't do this because we have such a safety record, you're going to destroy our safety record. it was less expensive for him. there's a lot of factors that went into it. it is not the only thing he did that's outside of this industry. he had a -- my understanding they had an equipment housing in the back that's a gas-filled glass ball, and great, they work on all sorts of equipment, but on manned systems, they can implode and they're basically a grenade at depth. if they implode, they could have caused a shock wave. i'd be interested in the sound recordings that the navy has and see if there's explosion first and another explosion afterwards. that could have been not the hull that failed but the
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equipment dome in the back. >> and will we find that out? do you think if a lot of the wreckage is able to be brought up, is that something that you would be able to determine? >> i think if they know enough about the construction, if they can get the people that are still left to know how this thing was built, they can take the evidence that they have and work backwards and there's a strong chance they can find out what happened. i think that the industry is a great industry, and should not be held accountable for this one rogue type. and i don't want to call him rogue, because he was a visionary, and he wanted to make changes. but when you add those changes outside of the certification process, to carry passengers, that's it. he could have done this all day long. james cameron did this. >> let me ask you about that, one of the things that stockton rush, the head of the company had basically said, some of these regulations can be an unnecessary drag on innovation. i want to play what he said last
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year and follow it with something that james cameron, who most people know directed "titanic" said about all of this just last night. take a listen. >> i've broken some rules to make this. i think i've broken with logic and engineering. carbon fiber and titanium, there's a rule you don't do that. i did. >> we understood this was the wrong material for submersible hulls because with each pressure cycle, you can have progressive damage. it's insidious and that lulled them into a sense of confidence and led them into this tragedy. >> that's two different takes on what the construction was. >> and james is right, you take carbon fiber, and it separates it, and you pressuretize it, and it starts sawing holes from the inside out of your carbon fiber hull. >> is this a situation, then, where every time it went down,
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that could have been exacerbated and is there any way to check on what's happening in there? >> well, if you're using a new material, that's what this certification process is for. if you want to break ground and use carbon fiber and perfect it for going underwater, there are 3d building rockets now, a start up that's 3d building rocket and they're innovating, and they don't have people on them. he should not have been -- if he's putting test pilots in them, that's one thing. my brother flew f-16s for 25 years, if he became a test pilot after that service, he would have known what he was doing. if you take someone one week a year that doesn't know the background and you're telling them that's safe, you're putting them in that situation. this is all a question about passengers being put on this and expectations and things they have been told. the certification processes are in place for this industry. they innovative. they allow you to innovative.
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they use lithium batteries, ten years ago, you wouldn't use lithium batteries. they have processes for innovation. the processes are inovate, and test and test. it sounds like stockton didn't do a lot of peer reviewing. he did his own thing and his own team and hired young engineers. then you have to put it into the world of scientists and use these, break my stuff, and fix it. that's how the system works and that's why they don't have accidents for 50 years until this. >> one argument that has been made is the folks who went on this knew what they were getting into. it's heartbreaking to listen to a 19-year-old college student's aunt saying he was nervous, but it was a father's day thing with his dad, and, you know, his dad loved to do this kind of thing. we have age limits and certification limits on people for literally hundreds, if not many thousands of things, 14-year-old can't drive a car,
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even if he's 6'2", right, at this stage of the development of going to a place where fewer people have gone than have gone into space, do there need to be those kinds of regulations. i was thinking about this retired admiral who told "the washington post," there's a long history of accidents leading to new regulations or changes. he said laws that are written in blood. >> yes, and, yes, there's a lot of industries like that. so aviation industry is a mature industry after a hundred years. and this is a mature industry. when you're innovating and taking risks, you should be taking risks as a professional who knows what they're doing. when you turn this into a commodity that can be used by every day people on the street, whether they're billionaires or millionaires or just someone getting on a bus and going downtown, manhattan, that bus has rules and regulations and certifications and has been
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inspected. and he has every right to build this vehicle, and go to this titanic, and even without certification, if he really believes in it, but the systems evolve for a reason. they evolve to stop people from getting killed and hurt, even killing and hurting themselves. those rules were meant to protect stockton rush just as meant as they were meant to protect the people there and his family and everything that's going to reverberate through his family, all of these families, and the industry that doesn't need the scrutiny or this false scrutiny is what it is, because look at this industry alone, and then look at passenger carrying submarines and how you separate those rules. the passenger carrying selling people into these rides, if you want to call them that, is what needs to be managed, not get it done away with. just have your regulations in place like you said earlier. >> tim taylor, you are been an
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extraordinary source of information and thoughtfulness throughout this. we thank you for being with us again today. a new charge against the armorer on the "rust" movie set. what she's now facing and how her lawyers are fighting back. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc with its e options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities, while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. e*trade from morgan stanley. from prom dresses to workouts and stay on top of the market. and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b.
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there's been a major new development in the case on the deadly shooting of the movie "rust," prosecutors filing charges against the armorer. the original charge was involuntary manslaughter. prosecutors say she gave drugs to another person so she wouldn't be caught with them on set. her lawyer issued a statement saying, quote, something is rotten in denmark. it is shocking that after 20 months of investigation this special prosecutor now throws in a completely new charge against
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ms. gutierrez-reed with no price notice or witness statements, lab reports or evidence to support it. nbc legal analyst, and criminal defense attorney danny cevallos is here with me. you have followed this case closely. you have been critical of the prosecutors. is it possible that this new evidence just came to light? >> it's possible, but where was this evidence in the year plus that these prosecutors have investigated this case and keep in mind, they investigated it for a year before they charged alec baldwin and since then, they have dropped the charges against alec baldwin. that means at one point they were certain alec baldwin was guilty, and now sure he is not guilty. now remaining is this defendant, hannah gutierrez-reed, i have to echo, if there are no lab reports, if there is no evidence that she was intoxicated, which would be relevant in a criminal investigation for criminal negligence, but if they don't have any evidence that she was
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actually under the influence, then it seems a little strange they would charge her with evidence tampering and especially if there doesn't appear to be any underlying drug charge itself. strange, maybe that's the way they do it in this particular just jurisdiction, but unfortunately i suspect not. >> the defense, they say the new charge stinks to high heaven, that's a quote, but would they have been required, would prosecutors have been required to turn over anything that they found in putting this new charge forth? i mean, would they need a witness statement? would they need some sort of physical evidence, and what could they -- what would they need to have to make this charge? >> i'm just drawing an inference here, but i suspect that the source of the information that made its way into a criminal charge for evidence tampering for giving someone drugs probably came from a human source, and not a cachet of drugs that was found in a drug
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box or somewhere else. that's my inference -- >> either the person she was alleged to have given it to or somebody who witnessed it. >> aware of it or had a lead on it or heard about it, and given that information to prosecutors. >> but would you prosecute somebody based on, well, i heard that this happened? >> yeah, in the law, we generally have a requirement called the corpus. i mean, it's not enough to call a witness to say, hey, i saw that guy with marijuana last week. normally the rule in american law is you need some proof of the actual drug, the contraband, maybe even the body. i mean, corpus literally means body, and to some degree, in a murder case, you often need the body, although i have defended a no body murder case, they happen. the point is you normally can't have a conviction, just based on testimony alone. you need actual evidence that the crime happened. i mean, that's a safeguard against wrongful convictions
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that has endured in american law. i imagine or hope the prosecutors have something more than a witness who just said, hey, that person gave me a bag of whatever contraband, narcotics, it doesn't matter. i expect they would have more than that. and the big question arises that you pointed out, why now, why so much time has passed before now they're finding out they have a new charge they want to level against this defendant. >> danny cevallos, we will be talking about this again, thank you so much. have a good weekend, danny. and while new polling suggests an overwhelming support across the u.s. for abortion rights, is that going to provide the lift democrats think it will in 2024. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc and on mas the us, you'll find pnc bank. helping businesses both large and small, communities and the people who live and work there grow and thrive. we're proud to call these places home too.
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we are now at the end of one year without roe v. wade, and support for abortion access across the u.s. has only grown. our new nbc poll shows 61% of voters now disapprove of the supreme court decision. democrats continue to see abortion as the key issue to help them win in 2024 and ap reports today that president biden is banking on reproductive rights to be a galvanizing issue. but punch bowl news got ahold of some internal polling by the dccc. it shows the race for control of congress next year is much closer than democrats had opened with republicans up 3 points on the generic ballot. so are democrats counting on the
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abortion issue too much. joining me now, nbc senior political mark murray. symone sanders townsend, and nbc's ali vitali at the faith and freedom coalition's road to majority conference in washington, d.c. big draw for gop candidates. so, ali, what are those folks saying today about the issue of abortion? >> reporter: while democrats think this is going to be a galvanizing issue for them, especially in a general election, republicans first still have to get through the primary, and you're seeing here at this conservative gathering a largely religious crowd here at faith and freedom. many of these candidates getting on stage, speaking directly to the issue of abortion. and it sound like this. watch. >> every republican candidate for president should support a ban on abortion before 15 weeks as a minimum nationwide standard. >> if congress acts and if
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congress acts, i will sign a federal law to restrict abortion as well as president of the united states. >> thank god all mighty for the dobbs decision. absolutely. we are creating a culture of life in america. >> reporter: and look, there is broad agreement here that there's a celebration for the folks who are here and the candidates on stage for the dobbs decision, but when it comes to where that weak mile marker is, 15 weeks, 20 weeks or lower than that, that's where candidates start getting into a little bit of disagreement, and they're all racing to the right on this issue, good for the primary, but could be problematic based on the poll for the general election. >> mark, walk us through the nbc poll. it tells people's opinions, but is there anything that suggests a tie to 2024, whether it will be motivating, that kind of thing. >> yeah, chris, overall this has
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turned into a wedge issue that democrats can potentially exploit, and the reason why is it cuts off, like it has wide support among the middle parts of the electorate, and also ends up putting a sizable portion of republicans on defensive. you end up having 66% of suburban women who say they disapprove of the dobbs decision, and the overturning of roe v. wade. 60% of independents also disapprove. and even 31% of republican voters, and so when you still have a third of republicans who end up saying, i end up disagreeing with the dobbs decision, that is significant. when it comes to 2024, chris, probably what stand out most in the poll is at least the intensity right now. it's hard to say what will be a galvanizing issue 16, 17 months from now. in our poll, we have 87% of democratic voters who say they strongly disapprove of the dobbs decision.
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that's compared to 52% of republican voters who say they strongly approve. that's a 35 point gap in an intensity, and at least as we're kind of measuring about what could be issues that fire up democratic voters, and put republicans on the defensive. it is why we're talking about abortion. >> so let me give you the worried democrats' take on this. >> there's lots of them out there, chris. >> there's a few i've met. the republicans are all in. the director of state public affairs at susan b. anthony, pro life america told nbc news, we're not done. we're not even close to done. they are targeting a nationwide abortion ban after 15 weeks, which tells you something. that's something they think is achievable, right. they know their voters go to the polls on this. should democrats be equally confident? they did in 2022, that's for sure. we have the indications mark just talked about, but is going
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largely in in the way the biden administration is and some of the candidates we've heard are maybe a bridge too far? >> i would say, no, chris, and this is why. the abortion issue, democrats have been framing it as an issue of freedom. now, it was not framed in this way from the beginning, if you will. but since the dobbs decision leaked and we saw the actual dobbs decision about a year ago tomorrow, democratic candidates have come out and we have the 2022 midterms, we have races before then, i think of new york 19, pat ryan, who was in a district that donald trump had won, that biden had won, and he won the district by framing the issue of health care, the issue of abortion. all of these issues in the bucket of freedom, and talking about privacy, and your rights, and that is something that i think has a bipartisan ring to it, if you will, something that appeals to both democratic voters and republican voters and
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is a winning framing for democratic candidates. i would argue where democrats will get in trouble on this issue is if they go back to the debates folks used to have five, six years ago, timing, gestational age, all of those things. we are not in a theoretical place anymore. we are in 14 states in america, abortion is banned. it is illegal. therefore it is illegal. many more states, it is restricted, at least two states, it's restricted at six weeks, and that's before many women know they are pregnant. so i think talking about gestational age and weeks, and that is not a winning issue for democrats, and they should steer clear of that kwfrgs. >> data -- question. particularly in red and rural states, we know there are large numbers of doctors who don't want to practice in states that have bans. our kristen dahlgren asked a
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republican state senator ed seltzer who sponsored georgia's abortion ban about that, and here's what he said. >> the life act balances the difficulty circumstances. i think the idea that there's geographic barriers for certain women in certain communities misses point that there's a living beating heart in a child that's worthy of protection. >> so if you talk to folks who are from that background, they believe that's why they're up three points on a generic ballot. they believe that this can be a winning issue in many congressional districts, consistency of message, so is it a bridge too far to look at a dccc polling and look at it as a wake up call or do you think that totally has nothing to do with the abortion issue? >> yeah, i think the dccc polling should tell,
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particularly, again, democratic house candidates, taking a look at the generic house ballot, tell them they need to do a very good job of articulating their positions and frankly, if they are an incumbent, what they have done for their constituents, and if they are an incumbent down in the generic ballot, it speaks to democrats across the whole. that means democrats need to speak about what they have done, how they are, and this does not immediate abortion is not a quote unquote winning issue. if anything, it means democrats have to be clear and concise. frankly, republican candidates need to be clear and concise. this melee, full, i have been watching ali all morning, and all day. now is the afternoon at the form that she is at, and the candidates have literally been all over the place. they are trying to differentiate themselves in a republican presidential primary. what does that mean for house candidates, and senate candidates because the senate
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and the house are also on the ballot. >> mark murray, symone sanders townsend, great to have both of you here. thank you so much. in wyoming, abortion pills will remain legal for now after a judge blocked a new ban on the pills from taking effect. wyoming was the first state to explicitly ban abortion medication. the new law was set to go into effect on july 1st. a county judge ruled yesterday to put that ban on hold, saying attorneys for wyoming failed to show that the ban would not harm the plaintiffs while they wait for a final ruling. the judge also temporarily suspended the state's near total ban on abortion. donald trump shoring up support, landing some post indictment endorsements in one key battleground state. that's coming up next. ins one key battleground state that's coming up next. . ♪ ♪ it was time for a nunormal with nucala. nucala is a once-monthly add-on treatment for severe eosinophilic asthma that can mean less oral steroids. not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of
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as the republican field continues to expand, donald trump is shoring up support in a major way landing pennsylvania endorsements post indictment from republicans who clearly don't think two high profile indictments have hurt the former president. we are hearing reports that his campaign is announcing today that he has won the endorsements of half of the pennsylvania house delegation, in addition to 56 of 63 republican house members who have endorsed overall so far. i want to bring in nbc capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles. also here with me maura
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gillespie, as well as former adviser to speaker john boehner and former congressman adam kinzinger. let's talk about this slate of endorsements from the pennsylvania delegations, what are we to make of that? >> reporter: well, i think more than anything, chris, it shows that the house republican conference in particular is still pretty solidly behind the former president donald trump, we see them play that out in realtime on a daily basis with the investigations that they have going on into the current president joe biden, and their investigations into the investigations of donald trump as a demonstration as how they're attempting to provide him cover, but these are significant endorsements in one of, if not the most important swing state for the former president. most of the names are not that big of a surprise. these are members of congress who have been solidly behind donald trump since he began his political career. scott perry, the chair of the freedom caucus.
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the one thing that stood out to me, guy, the republican star in the conference. another member of republican house leadership has picked a candidate in the 2024 race is significant. i also think the other important part of this, to keep in mind, is while donald trump continues to rack up endorsements with house republicans, ron desantis, the governor of florida who is theoretically his toughest opponent right now had a few endorsements right out of the gate, but has not really seen much support coalesce around him at least from members of the house republican caucus. this just continues to demonstrate more than anything how donald trump continues to enjoy a significant amount of support particularly with the republican base. chris. >> and you can look more and not just at the house, but endorsements overall, and you can look at the 538, which waits endorsements, right, in the
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primary -- weights endorsements, right in the primary. ron desantis, the next closest one down at 39. do you have a theory as to why indictments don't seem to matter? >> endorsements are great, right, but it really comes down to the voters. that's what matters, the will of the voter and what they're looking for to in the republican candidate. if they're frustrated at this point with biden and having an 80-year-old in the white house, trump is not their candidate. if they're frustrated by the nepotism in the white house, trump is not their candidate. if they're frustrated with the abuses of power and lack of integrity of institutions, trump is not our candidate. i think that republican voters need to be looking at endorsements. >> voters are saying in polls that by an over -- it's not just endorsement, an overwhelming majority, 20, 30 points, it's donald trump. >> and it's hypocritical, is what i'm pointing out here. for republican voters who are
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still looking at trump, it's hypocritical to how all of these frustrations with president biden, when they very much mirror things that are right up donald trump's alley. >> so let me ask you what you think that the democrats can do. is there a way to win any of these voters over? i keep thinking about this interview that my colleague lindsey reiser did with a trump voter in suffolk county about the indictments. listen to this voter. >> they're trying to smear him, to give him a bad name. but he's called the teflon don for a reason. he keeps bouncing back. the stuff slides off of him. and it's like he has some divine power looking after him, because everything they do tends to turn to crap. >> he keeps bouncing back. >> again, it's so hypocritical because they're lamenting about hunter biden for having paid off different, the latest accusation
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about prostitutes, donald trump, the same president of the united states is paying off a former porn star, how do we not compare. i don't understand some of these voters who are so die hard, and it's going to take a lot for the candidates that are up there, the 11 gop candidates for the 2024 election to point this out, that we cannot have another trump presidency. >> do you expect them to at the debates? >> they absolutely should. that should be their number one priority to point out the parallels. >> maura, ryan nobles, thank you both so much. american tech giants are looking to india as their next frontier as the u.s./china relationship grows more tense. just a couple of hours ago, the ceos of some of our nation's biggest companies met with president biden and indian prime minister modi at the white house to talk innovation, investment, and manufacturing. cnbc's leslie picker joins me for cnbc on msnbc. this comes after ceos like apple's tim cook, and sundar
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pichai rubbed shoulders with the prime minister. a lot of people saying the celebrities were actually the silicon valley ceos. >> it's a really big deal. lots of shoulders rubbed here. the purpose of the meeting was to boost the ties of the two nations. a particular focus was the u.s.'s growing reliance on manufacturing in india, as opposed to china, and india away from china. apple recently, for example, opened two retail stores in india after moving iphone production there, and cnbc previously reported whether apple is moving production from india to china as well. my colleague, seema mody caught up with tim cook outside the white house earlier today. she asked him what he discussed with prime minister modi. >> we opened two stores there, when i was over there, and we'll see, i think it's a huge
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opportunity. >> reporter: did modi seem receptive? >> that one i'm not going to comment on. >> other multinational companies with exposure to india like marriott and commons sent their ceos as well, and several commercial deals spanning the two countries also took place, general electric announced that it plans to coproduce military jet engines in india with hindu stand, aeronautics, just to name one of those big deals announced as part of this summit. chris. >> leslie picker, thank you so much. and before we go, we got to talk about last night, hopes and dreams fulfilled at the 2023 nba draft. we don't do a lot of sports on this show, but i got to talk about 7'4", french phenom victor
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wembanyama, he's going to debut next season. stephanie gosk is here. i'm a cavaliers fan. i follow it a little bit, especially when we win the championship. this guy, i can't stop watching him. >> you said 7'5", right, there's a little bit of dispute. >> i said 7'4". >> some say 7'3", whatever his height, there is no dispute on how talented this 19-year-old player is. and it is a combination of just being that tall but playing like he's 6'3", and with the kind of skill set that someone that height plays with, there was no doubt he was going first, and once san antonio spurs who finished second to last this season got the first pick, there was no doubt he was going to the spurs. but it still was an exciting and emotional night for him, and this is what he had to say just moments after he was chosen by the spurs. >> accomplishing something that i have been dreaming of, you know, my whole life.
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hearing that sentence from adam silver, you know, i've dreamed of it so much. i got to cry, man. >> a really sweet kid, right. a dream come true, but, chris, this is now when the real work starts for him. >> they're going to pay him a little bit of money, i'm guessing. >> he'll get some money for sure, but they are also expecting championships in san antonio. you know, they remember tim duncan who won five championships, he was the first round overall pick for the spurs, and so that's what they want from this 19-year-old, and, you know, he seems like he's got it together. and he's strong emotionally. he's going to need to be because that's what the expectations are going to put on his shoulders. >> you know, one of the things that really -- i don't think we have it because i didn't ask for it, but he threw out the first pitch at a baseball game, right, and it looked like he was holding a golf ball. there it is. it literally looks like he's holding a golf ball.
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his paws are so big. he's amazing. i mean, he is going to be. >> it's going to be fun to watch him. >> i don't think he ever took a baseball in his hand before, so he kind of missed the plate but you know what, good for him. >> they don't play a lot of baseball in france. >> isn't it fun to do a fun story on a friday. that's it for us this hour. joining us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00, now our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" next. cs with "katy tur reports" next wans and save on every perk. sadie is moving to the big city and making moves on her plan, too. apple one, on. now she's got plenty of entertainment for the whole ride. finally there! hot spot, on. and she's fully connected before her internet is even installed. (sadie) hi, mom! (mom) how's the apartment? (vo) introducing myplan. get exactly what you want, only pay for what you need. act now and get it for $25 when you bring your phones. it's your verizon. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪
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