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because she talked about everything she loved. >> does anything you say to teresa right now, if she could hear? >> just that you are still in my heart and i'll never forget you. >> i just want to know that whenever i do die, i want people at love to know that whenever i die, that i was happy. >> -- -- that's all for this edition of dateline. i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. watching >> happy saturday, kids, thank you so much for tuning in to us and sending spongebob squarepants. i'm going to, you morning show we can't will be far more rewarding for you. let's dive right in with some of this week's top conversations. >> today, we are on the floor of the house, the other side
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has turned this chamber, where slavery was abolished, where medicare and social security and everything were instituted, they turned it into a puppet show, a puppet show. you know what, the puppeteer, donald trump is shining a light on the strings. you look miserable. you look miserable. the only advantage to all of, this is that instead of reversing what we did on the i.r.a. say the planet, or reversing what we did to reduce the cost of prescription drugs, you are wasting time. >> you look miserable, former house speaker nancy pelosi calls out republicans for the grievance politics, and using the house floor to appease donald trump by centering democrat adam schiff who the first impeachment against the former president. it comes as there is a growing rift between two of the most outspoken far-right members of the house, over how and when to impeach president biden.
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also ahead, we are learning more about the case, special counsel jack smith is building against donald, trump and the classified documents case not looking good. good morning, welcome to morning, show a lot going on this, morning with us we have the host of -- at politico jonathan lemire. washington bureau chief for usa today susan page, and u.s. national editor at the financial times -- is with us as well. >> you know, before we get started, let's just get an overview very quickly of what this republican house majority is doing, you know, we were warned that there were insurrectionists, we know they would be reckless if they were given a bit of power, loose, they have censored -- they can't really tell us why, other than he investigated what margaret rubio's intelligence committee senate intelligence
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committee called, quote, a grave counter intelligence threat to the united states of america, that is what schiff was investigating, let me say that again, he was investigating something that marco rubio specific intel committee said of trump's 2016 interactions with russia, affords a access with officials close to the associated the russian intelligence services represented a grave counter intelligence threat okay, so he opens up an investigation against that, and brings up again, so many things that are disturbing. then, we keep hearing about the biden crime family, but you ask the question, what crime? they cannot tell you. wall street journal editorial page rightly says, a lot of smoke, no fire.
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you have grass ling, the most senior republican when confronted about why document they are looking, for and how it really doesn't do anything to suggest joe biden did anything, wrong because we don't care whether they are right to, wrong you have -- going out and saying we do not, care we are just trying to bring down the poll numbers. >> absolutely, comer, so, then yesterday i think maybe the saddest and most pathetic spectacle of all, when john durham who is made a fool of himself time and again, but one case after another trying to slander the fbi, trying to slander hillary clinton, he goes before a house panel, and he claims to be completely ignorant of things that happened that were on the front pages of the new york times, and marco rubio's intel
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committee -- even claimed that he did not know about that grave counter intelligence threat to the united states, he did not know that donald trump had asked russia to find hillary clinton's emails, he did not know when news item after, another and his response was, i did not follow the news. i did not really read newspapers and watch television. this would be the starting point for any investigation of the investigators, and yet, they keep making fools of themselves. they are just gesturing to the most extreme members of the republican party, including durham, people who get their news from chinese religious cults. >> you know, if you were to ask me as a republican party today, closer to mitt romney, or to george santos, who is you know, a clown of the first order and
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should not be in the house, i'm sad to, say i think it is closer to being the party of george santos. the -- the sensor of -- the valued an incredibly powerful and important tool of legislature, disciplining its own chair members for criminal conduct, for extreme ethical breaches, what adam schiff did was -- the constitutional duty of the house to provide oversight of the executive, at a time when the executive was breaking all kinds of rules. it has become conventional wisdom to stay, not just on the right, but you know, amongst polite conversation to say, there is a report exonerated trump. i re-read that 448-page report a few months ago, and having read it virtually at the, time it is extremely damning document corroborated as you
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say, by the senate intelligence committee, report signed off but senator republicans, it establishes multiple counts of obstruction of justice, in the investigation into the alleged russia collusion between the trump campaign and russia. there is no doubt that there was russian collusion. there's absolutely no doubt, there was an attempt by donald trump to get putin to assist his election, it was not critical, probably just election in 2016, so there has been some overstatement of that on the left, but of course it happened. so to censor a congressman, adam schiff, it makes this the party of george santos, just one last point, adam schiff said, look one day trump will be gone, but your dishonor will remain. this is dishonourable. this is deeply dishonourable. >> right, it is deeply dishonourable, and jonathan,
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again, we keep hearing about the biden crime family, here's another example, you have durham going around, with the fbi, you have these right-wing freaks, insurrectionists, weirdos lying about the quote biden crime family, you have a number of the supreme's wife taking part in activities around january the 6th, you know, standing in emails around two, people, and saying the biden crime family should be put on a prison barge, outside of four, crimes i always ask what crimes, they have no answer, did we stand here yesterday, people in the media have been saying for years, what hunter biden did, it is unethical, it looks, bad he is a crack attic, nobody here is defending him, there is no
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media blackout, i mean there is a massive piece is written about hunter biden, during the 2019 and 2020 time period, nothing, and yet, they keep saying but in crime family, but in crime family. he keeps talking about investigating the investigators, russia hopes russia -- when marco rubio's senate intelligence committee said, they said, after the 2016 campaign, when margaret was already kissing up to donald trump, that the trump campaign's connections with russian influenced people, cost, quote, a grave, a grave threat to u.s. counter intelligence, a grave threat so, the person who is in charge of the committee, and the health should not investigate that? and now they are censoring him
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for doing that. you have that, you have durham, you have this biden crime family, and -- oh my god. oh my a. thank god we do not have a 31 trillion dollar -- that donald trump basically gave us, these same republicans give, us thank god we do not have any concerns with, china think that we didn't have any concerns with the economy, think about we do not have any concerns about skywriting college, cost thank god it is far more important for him and lauren boebert to fight each other on the, floor calling each other, because because they are having a race to impeach joe biden over what? nothing. more gesturing. this is what we warned about, if they put insurrectionists, we are those, and freaks in charge of the people's house, and they have put we are, those
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insurrectionists, and freaks in charge of the people's house, and this is what people in those districts get. dishonourable, dishonest, and unserious, that is what this is, it isn't serious. it is not a party that is engaged in governing, it is about gesture and playing for most common denominator, whether fox news, viewer or podcast listeners, or the person writing them a check for the next campaign. it is the biden crime family quote quote quote, yes, as we just mentioned, hunter biden, certainly appearances of unethical behavior, he was charged with crimes, the three week he pleaded guilty. no widespread corruption, nothing about enriching the president or himself because of official business, but rather because of tax matters and he shouldn't have purchased a gun when he did. those are crimes, he pleaded guilty. there is no biden crime family, that is not stopping republicans from trying to spin this up into something, to do donald trump's bidding, and certainly to donald trump's
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bidding in terms of adam schiff yesterday. this is a rare thing, only happened three times this century, the last representative to be -- you remember this, paul gosar two years ago, why was he, because he tweeted out an animated image of him murdering a colleague, a democratic congresswoman, and threatening to kidnap president biden, then he was censured rightly for that behavior. adam schiff was censured for this behavior, the behavior of simply doing his job, of investigating donald trump's behavior, they dropped the 16 million dollar fine that was on the table last week, but he still has now been censured, more than a third representative this century to do so, and joe, to your point, next up yesterday impeachment, speaker mccarthy was able to table that for a little while, but this is something that should only be used in the most serious matters, only been used a hander of times, in the history of the united states, we are dangerously getting
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close to it being another thing that happens, that republicans can use to score points. >> express it in new defense for what he kept -- classified materials that mar-a-lago. >> how many are there? >> white one fox news analyst said what shotgun on all trump was said was -- you can actually apply that to things he said over the past eight years. we will talk about that after a short break. will talk about that after short break. we know patients are more than their disease. that's why, at novo nordisk, we've spent a hundred years
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conservatives are expressing surprise and shock over former president donald trump's primetime interview on fox news this week, in which he doubled down on his handling of nuclear secrets after leaving the white house. during the interview, trump defended himself against the federal indictment brought by special counsel jack smith. spelling out 37 counts against
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trump, with a trial date now set for august 14th. conservative radio host and blogger erick erickson tweeted, quote, guys, champ admitted on tv tonight he withheld documents from the grand jury, game over legally. what an idiot. talk show host ted morsi tweeted, the first rule of federal indictment club is, you do not talk about your case. the second rule of federal indictment club is, really do not do this, trump, just admit obstruction on national television, frequent legal commentator for fox news jonathan turley tweeted, red bear conducted an extraordinary interview with donald trump who discussed the criminal allegations in detail, the statements of this kind are generally admissible at trial. here is what former new jersey governor and republican presidential candidate chris christie had to say. >> the problem for donald trump
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and all of, this is his own conduct. he is his own worst enemy. none of this would have happened to, him if he had just returned the documents. it appears to me last night, as a former prosecutor, he admitted obstruction of justice on the air last night, to bret baier. i can tell you this, his lawyers this morning are jumping out of whatever window they are near. >> yeah, that is the thing, >> you can see it's a witch hunt when you admit to doing it. >> well, when you admit to doing, it and also, you know, this is the thing we are looking at, erick erickson, add more, see anti-mccarthy, the national review you have a group of conservative commentators who have either been pro trump, or anti trump during donald trump's reign. and, these, in this conservative media, this
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construct, there are a lot of people hearing for the first time, donald trump's guilty, donald trump has admitted to obstruction of justice, donald trump is toast, said one. donald trump, and then mccarthy said donald trump has no defense in this case. >> he just made it worse. >> and every time, it is crazy, john, we all know he has no discipline, but every time he goes on the air, he moves himself one step closer to prison >> yeah, not good. i mean, it is, if he hadn't done this, consistently, since the fbi showed up at mar-a-lago, this is a consistent pattern of his, he more or less has -- to miss one earlier, he continues to maintain the things he is admitting, two or
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not illegal. this is where the cognitive dissonance comes in for trump, he has this area somehow contrary to everybody else, about the statues involved, or understanding the law, that if your president you can do what you want. it is kind of like -- if you are president you can do anything, you can the documents, if you think there are declassified in your, had they become declassified, and they basically are his. his boxes, his documents, we will do not apply to him. this is how he thinks. but from a legal standpoint, devastating, and again, you're joe conservative lawyers who have stood up for trump in almost every instance, they are not looking at him and saying, dude, you are taking this hole so deep that with all the help in the world, you're not going to be able to get out of it legally. i will say, politically, if you want to make the counter case, 2016, a split republican field, you do not need 50% to -- you don't need 50% to winner take all in the primary. donald trump nearly won 50%
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back in 2016, and a split republican field, the trump base looks at all these documents, and, says they do not believe -- they think fox news is not, liberal they dismissed, all can trump continue to, when can trump when a republican nomination with a split field, and it hard-core 40% of the republican party, i'm not saying he will the bill will maintain that maybe it will dissolve over the next few months, but that is a winnable ways for donald trump if you can keep us 40% who laugh at the ad more sierra crest and and -- they just say, we are with trump no matter what. you can worry about. exactly that way. >> right, but, sam stein, we are talking about something really bigger than a republican primary contest. we are talking about donald trump's pending case, and his freedom, our whether an ex
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president is going to jail, because what he does may hold a minority of republicans together, supporting him, but he is not only proving as again, eric erickson, add more c, and in mccarthy, bill barr, you name, it chris christie, you go down the list, he is not only proving that he committed the actions, he is on tape proving the intent of lie he is doing this. this case, it is open and shut. the only thing trump can hope for is jury nullification. this case, if you look at trump's own words, as all these other conservatives have said, open and shut case against him. >> well, no, you're wrong, there's a statute that says you do not have to comply with a subpoena if you're documents
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are during -- and trump knew that, that is why he -- all of these legal commentators, they need to go back to school, and study the law. no, it is pretty damning that -- yes, if i really, this is classic, trump he speaks, and he causes more trouble for himself, and it is almost like a fake it till you make a type of attitude about the law. eventually, it will catch up to you. i will disagree with one, thing i do not think the only endgame here is jury nullification. i think it isn't and game. i think another one is too dried, out scintilla you are elected, again, fake it till you make, it and then give yourself a pardon. >> that isn't and game. >> yes we are talking about this as if it is a form of political strategy, but in and of itself, it does underscore the sort of craziness, the seriousness of the times that we are in, in which we could very well, in fact likely have
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a leading presidential, candidate one of two people in line for the presidency who could go to jail, and it is really a race between at the justice system in our politics, to see which one comes first, that is nuts. >> coming up, a new poll that success donald trump is losing republican support following his second indictment. what a relief. how many indictments will it take we ♪♪ allergies don't have to be scary. (screaming) defeat allergy headaches fast with new flonase headache and allergy relief!
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place. warmer vice president mike pence and former u.s. ambassador nikki haley round out the top, four with no other candidate pulling above 5%. the poll also shows, trump's unfavorability rating has fallen ten points among republicans since last month, from 77%, to 67%. additionally, 27% now say they have an unfavorable view of the former president compared to 18% in may. among all americans, 59% say trump should and his 2024 campaign, now that he has been federally charged. the number is much higher at 85% among non-republican voters, and finally, 55% of americans say the former president broke the law with his mishandling of classified documents, while another 30% say his actions were unethical, but not illegal.
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i want to know who those people are, because trump himself says he broke the law, he is saying with his words, and they still cannot get there, -- >> so, let's go through these numbers, the numbers for donald trump, and you know, maybe hands up winning everything, who knows, we have a long way to go. but, i've been saying for sometime people discounting desantis and the entire republican field, we have a long way to go at this point, when the show first started in 2007, people were talking about hillary clinton, running against rudy giuliani. a long way to go at this point. in 1979, jimmy carter was losing to ted kennedy, and about one third of the democratic vote to ted kennedy's two third of the democratic vote. a long way to go. let's go through these numbers first, less than 50% of republicans now according to this poll support donald trump in the primary. this is a guy obviously former
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president of the united states, less than 50%. one third of republicans now say, one out of three republican, say they have an unfavorable view of donald trump. six in ten american say, about six in ten americans say he should get out of the race right now, and when we talk about 55% of all americans say he broke the law, but when we take out the hard-core gop base, we look at democrats, independents, swing voters, the people who are going to decide this election, 85% of americans say, you should get out of the race right now. and, the question that this bags is, what in the -- are republican voters thinking that they want to actually win the white house back in 2024?
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>> well, joe, what are they thinking, i think a large, and a growing number of them are thinking, how do we get out of, this and i think this is the connection between these two sets of pulling. you have to think about them as different things, and we talk about it all the time, you have this nomination fight, then the general election. we are all familiar with donald trump's vulnerabilities as a general election, those are growing. they have now apparently started to see some connection between the two. they are separate, but connected. you now have some substantial, not yet majority of republican voters, but a substantial number of them who are, the thing that people saw before the raid at mar-a-lago, and last year they were getting trump fatigue for saying he is a loser, give him, watch let's figure out some way to tell this man he did miss carmaker great, again and have him sent off to a happy retirement.
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talk about how republican voters looked at it, then they rallied around him, ever since then. now it seems like they are starting to see some signs in this republican mission, where the older the prior dynamics can begin, the republicans who want to, win again all of, them the bases still incredibly loyal to trump, i will say began, the most powerful person in our politics is the intensity of people who love, trump that is enough to make him formidable in any gop nomination play, but the numbers are starting to show some signs of wear, and some signs of cracking around the place in the party, and that is critics -- for some of his rivals. >> and, sam stein, two numbers here that trump would be very concerned about, if i were trump, i would be much more concerned about spending the rest of my life in jail. politically, and i'm serious about that. but, two numbers, and that is,
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a majority of republicans do not want donald trump to be their nominee, he is under 50% for people who say they will support, him that is a majority of republicans do not want him as their nominee. a majority of americans, 55% say the guy who committed crimes, those two numbers are very hard to get around if you are donald trump. because, what we are going to see most, likely's seat new jersey indictments coming, georgia indictments coming, we are going to probably see the january six indictments coming, and they are just going to stack on top of each other. >> yes, so, you know, there's two things that can be triggered. one thing is, we have been on this road before when the wake of an immediate scandal involving trump, we see a dip in his poll numbers including among republicans. this happened for instance
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after -- that have been for instance after the impeachments happened, after january 6th, and then inevitably it takes backup overtime. the second thing that can be true, this could be a very unique circumstance or other reasons you just pointed to, which is, this legal trouble he finds himself, in by definition it is not going away, he still has to go to trial, there will still be days where he is in court, where evidence is being presented against him, it is not even the extent of his legal trouble that we know about, there are at least two cases in which we could see subsequent indictment. so, this has the issue here is not simply is being heard by this indictment, it is that this is a continuous news cycle that could keep these poll numbers down, and trending downward for even still, even with all this, as you, know 21-point lead nationally for desantis and the majority of
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republicans do not want to see in albany, but you just need to win state delegates in the republican primary, in need to be the one who wins the state in order to get all the delegates, and we have been down this road before, 2016 that is the -- they may not like the, guy that may want to get rid of the guy but enough that they may just be fine with it they are bound to the man. >> sam makes a good point about how this is not a story that will go away not only mourn diamonds likely on the horizon from all the reporting that we know but they are going to be coordinates, appearances, this is not something you can shrug off. now, can jump ses done before be able to use that as a rallying point for republicans? possibly. but it could be -- this is the moment where that republicans who liked, champoux voted for, him once probably twice, they really want to win, and they have to look at, this and go, this is not going to help him next, year those
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independent swing, voters, women voters to actually decide elections, none of these indictments are going to help trump's case with them. there is simply not. so, if it is not trump, who is it? it should be noted, no -- for desantis, whatsoever and the launch is not gone well, -- long way off, there is time for those numbers to grow, but at least so far, as trump shows a little wobble, he's not seizing the moment. >> after the break, a congressman who -- of california talks about his new bill designed to regulate artificial intelligence. psych! really? dude, that's a foul! and now you're ready to settle the score. and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, well you could end up paying for all this yourself. so get allstate.
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calling for regulations over a.i., he is proposing a, bill i want to get to that in just a, moment but congressman, explain the danger of just a political campaigns of the use of unregulated a.i.. >> well, thank you for your question, as we are covering a science, major i'm fascinated with a, i and the good things that is going to diversity. it can also cause, harm and i think that is what it is important that we have regulations and laws that allow a.i. to innovate, but prevent harms and put in guardrails.
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we also have to be humble, and understand, we don't know, and as members of congress we have to acknowledge that we have to have experts, sometimes advised some new technology, that is why later this morning i'm creating an a.i. commission, a bipartisan bill with congress members -- and it will be carried and set aside by senator -- and we'll look at what kinds of a.i. we might want to regulate, and how we might want to go about doing, so including a i-4 use and political campaigns. >> so, speak to us about the challenges of trying to challenge something that is developing so rapidly, a icus is expanding by the, day the technology improves by the, day so how hard is it going to be to wrap your arms around something that is evolving so quickly? >> that is a great question, i'm not even sure we would know what we are regulating at this point, because it is moving so quickly. if you look at all the applications that have come out since chatgpt debuted, it is,
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hundreds literally probably thousands by now. so, some of these may in fact, happen but maybe they do not have, been or maybe we see some new harms. i think it is good to have some time pass, good to have a commission of experts advise this, because if we make a mistake as a member of congress, in writing legislation, we need another act of congress to correct it. >> congressman, for americans who really know nothing about, this can you talk a little bit about your greatest areas of concern? what were maybe even some examples of some ways this technology could run amok, could cause problems, what was it you heard that major state we need to look at this more closely? >> sure, we will do this as a legislature, there is two bodies of -- big ocean of a, i and small lake, so this big ocean, is all the way i would do not care about, so the a i in your smart toaster, as a professor english muffins or toast, we do not care about that. but there is a i we care about,
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you have to ask what would we want to care about that. first, because it does have a province that might -- cause such as a facial recognition, which is a basic technology, but it is biased towards people with darker skin, and if you deploy that nationwide, law enforcement agencies, you will have a huge -- against minorities will be misidentified at higher rates. so, legislation or guarding those. the example of -- carmaking house. >> congressman claire mccaskill, here are those concerns about political campaigns, as you will know, the most powerful weapon in a political campaign is video of the candidate speaking in their own words. many people do not do town halls, during congress, just because they are afraid that they -- will get them on film in a moment where they say something awkward, whether misspeak, and it can be used against them later. i have really a sense of
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urgency about what is going to happen in this next cycle, when people start airing commercials of candidates speaking words they never said. what would your legislation do to prevent that? and is there any sense of urgency in congress to move quickly, at least on the front of having to disclose ar is used in political advertising? >> thank, you senator mccaskill for, question so nothing in this a.i. commission bill preclude congress from acting in discreet areas of a i regulation, i also note that there is a eye that can counter bad a.i.. so for example, you have some companies working on a.i. that can authenticate original videos, and original images, so that could be something that campaigns could use, in addition i do support legislation that requires this, disclosure on ads and social media and so, on so next time for example if you see a pro trump ad, it might just say at the bottom paid for by the
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and just like that will start streaming its second season thursday on max, let's take a sneak peek. >> hey. >> hey. how is it going? >> best getaway ever. the sun, the sacks, the toasted chili salsa, i feel so alive. >> really, because it looks like you are just standing in your underwear in a weird robe. >> standing and my underwear in a real robe ever. shea got stuck in a costume fitting for the tv pilot, so i'm taking their sensory deprivation tank appointment. >> that does not sound like you. >> it is the new me, the best
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me ever. >> joining us now is an emmy and tony award winning actress cynthia nixon who plays miranda on the show. she also serves as an executive producer, so, really great to have you back on the show. >> thank you. happy to be here. >> first of all, i love that these characters are on a different stage in their, life can you describe for those who haven't caught on to angela's like, that what they are seeing, because these women as we watch in the six in the city, they have been through a lot. they have a lot of life experience, what has changed for these characters? >> well, i think, one thing that has always been great about the original show and the new show, they have allowed us to evolve and change, and they have also allowed us to, age so for miranda she was a corporate attorney, for many years, for decades, and she woke up one day i think it was partly a combination of trump and global warming, and the migrant, ben
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and the george floyd, everything came together and she was like i did not want my tombstone to read here lies miranda she was a corporate lawyer. so she decided she didn't want to be part of the problem anymore, she wanted to be part of the solution, so she ditched her job and she is now training to be a human rights lawyer, she has left her marriage, and she has fallen in love with -- a nonbinary character played by salma ramirez. >> love run away, time for many -- it sounds like something familiar, tummy sounds fantastic. next question to jonathan, because he is obsessed. he is still watching six on the city reruns. and, like the whole, thing big, the character, big that freaked him out and he now wants to ask a bunch of questions. jonathan, only one for you. i appreciate that. cynthia we are glad you are
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here. so, miranda, but of course, said the action for us as to where this next season begins, and what i think fans should be looking for? >> so, carrie asked people know, and you just alluded, to big died last year so carrie is a widow, and she has been the last season trying to grapple with that, and i think that is what the title means, and just like that. something terrible or wonderful can happen, and it can transform immediately. so, we find her having moved a little bit away from his death, and trying to get back to her life. we see charlotte grappling with you know, having been in mom mode for so long, and now considering maybe wanting something more in her life. >> what is it like going back and revisiting such an iconic character, and iconic series, in a different context, decades
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later, and do you feel at all for, is it a time, then or now, or did it pick up, did you pick up seamlessly where you left off? >> i think it was pretty seamless honestly. we know these characters so, well we know each other so well, and one thing is, we really wanted to, if we revisited it, we wanted to keep what was, good and improve what was not. so it was always a very white show, so we had these incredible new characters played by these unbelievable actors, and i'm so thrilled that when we put up these unbelievable people, can pittman, and a cool ari parker, serena chao jarry, and they said yes. and, it is actually the new people on our show, they try to youth and, the people they brought on were very much our peers. so a lot of the first season was introducing them, and getting into through the exposition, now i feel like we have really hit our stride and
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we have the seven of, us and we are just hitting the ground running. it is exciting. >> and, cynthia, since the new season of and just like that is streaming on max starting this thursday, can you give a few teasers, or give a bit of what is gonna happen away? >> i will just say that when we left miranda at the end of the last season, she was for the first time in her life maybe, following her heart instead of her head, following shea out to los angeles where they were shooting a pilot, a sitcom so we will pick miranda up in los angeles, which is definitely not her natural habitat. >> all right, once again and just like that. the new season starts streaming this thursday. cynthia nixon, thank you so much, you can chat catch on max. that does it for the first hour of morning joe. >> oh my gosh. >> it went fast.
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only 36% of americans supported the decision, 61% opposed it. and if you're sitting there going, oh my god, who could've seen this coming. anyone who had been actually looking at polls over the last 20, 30 years. hardly ever, and i'm serious, we've heard about overturning roe versus wade, it's always only been around a third of americans. this is happened, it's had horrific consequences for women, for their health. we've heard one horse story after another. i will say though, this is a political program for the most part. we try and tell people what's coming. the politics, just a political earthquake. and i think very few could've imagined just the scale that the tremors could be felt all the way to wisconsin, kentucky, kansas, and in deep red states. >> that's exactly right joe, if
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you look at the recent polling from the nbc poll, you have 80% of women between the ages of 18 and 49 who oppose the overturning of roe. you have 60% of independents, 30%, one third of republicans. those are earth shattering numbers. in many ways, as you said, for a long time there has been greater support for keeping abortion access in place then getting rid of it, this has awakened women, men and women, independents, people of all political stripes across the country. we saw that in the midterm elections. it looks to be that that enthusiasm, the anger, the passion has not subsided, as we are seeing these fights happened state to state. as we mark one year tomorrow, it's just a reminder of how the political electorate has been
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awakened by not wanting their rights to be taken away. >> their rights. let's focus on that. because i think while the concept on the far-right might be okay, we have prevented the rights to abortion, what they've really done is overturn 50 years of women's health, and anybody, whether republican, democrat, whether they're christian, whatever they call themselves, whatever they base their values around, anyone who has had a baby, or know someone who has gone through pregnancy knows this isn't just about abortion. this is about women's health. and the right to health care has been taken away for women across the country. and we're seeing in realtime. >> and the thing is, it's not just that a 50-year riding has been taken away. it's what republicans have done with this moment. they've taken a situation that would've been dangerous for them politically, and they've
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made it exponentially worse with radical viewpoints that cause ten-year-old girls who've been raped to flee their state. candidates in michigan who end up losing in a landslide, saying a 14 year old girl being raped by her uncle is a perfect reason to have laws that would have this state compel her to have a forced birth. and you can go down the line, time and again, they have made one agree just decision after another. you can look at wisconsin. keeping in place a total ban from 1849. i mean, let's be really clear here. the majority of americans support an abortion ban at 15, 16, 17 weeks. if you look at a polling, they want abortion laws much like you see in europe. in france. and other european countries. but right now, the democrats, democrats are getting free reign on this issue to point to
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the extremism of republicans. and not have to answer many questions themselves. because the republican support such extreme bans. and it, as i said before, it is crushing them and wisconsin judicial races, in kansas, and kentucky, in a lot of red states. >> right, you know, joe. the thing that is been so hard to get a lot of people on the right to understand, that will still make people scream when you say it, is that the regime under roe v. wade, the system that it installed was a compromise. it was not a system that allowed for abortion on demand at any point in a pregnancy. it allowed for laws that restricted abortion in many ways. the trimester system that was created in that really was itself a political compromise, and said we can restrict abortions to a limited degree in the third trimester.
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and then it also meant that you would not have a full overturning, so that itself was a compromise. and for political reasons, reinterpreted that, arguing different ways and said that roe v. wade had allowed abortion on demand. it never did. so what had been a stable political compromise, built on top of a supreme court president that granted is certain right, that was taken down by this decision. and then republicans had a choice. what the ruling did was through this back into the political arena. i would say, a savvy political operator, would say hey guys, go slow here. this has never happened before. a fundamental right has never been taken away before. the history of the court, and there was a stable compromise that was in place for 50 years. if you mess around with this, and try to claim ultimate
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victory, grab all ground you can, there is going to be backlash. and it was predictable in that sense. you couldn't predict how much energy it would unleash on the part of women who were standing up for their health and rights, but you could've predicted backlash. and republicans did exactly the dumbest thing they could've possibly done in a lot of these states. which was all the things you cited. do you think that would be easy to campaign against, because they're so outrageously radical. >> and that's why you look at polling, even now. i discount polling. i don't care who it's positive for, or negative for, i discount polling, just like we discounted pulley before the 22 election. everyone was talking about a red wave. and abortion was only being cited by 5% of the electorate as being important to them. we didn't believe it at the time. and everybody around this table -y, we were right. it's the same thing now. there may be people who have
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problems with this issue, or that issue with joe biden or the democrats. as we get closer and closer to the election, it is gonna become more in focus. all the things that everyone from the wall street journal editorial page to and culture, who've warned republicans about, that they have to get smart on abortion, or else are gonna keep losing elections. well they aren't getting smarter on abortion. and bad things will happen. i have to say, i'll talk to jon meacham later about this. the united states supreme court, in a political crisis unlike any political crisis it's been, at least in my lifetime. even after the 2000 recount. their approval ratings recovered very quickly after that, they were respected interested again. but you look at just how raked the process has been, and i don't want to go through all the things that happened in the united states senate, with merrick garland and others. but if you look at the billions of dollars that people are pouring in now to influence
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this, you look at the will of the people. e 65, 70% of americans being ignored? e and overturning a 50-year precedent. unfortunately, they have destroyed the credibility of the court. the far-right has. and my prediction is, it's coming. there is going to be reform. in the judicial branch. i don't know what that reform looks like. but i think it's gonna start with the united states supreme court. because their approval ratings are going to just keep going down as it gets more and more politicized. and let's face it, bought off by an element that has billions of dollars. they're using billions of dollars to buy off the supreme court fights. and at the same time, with the supreme court, right now, that is just running rough over ethics.
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just basic ethical considerations. so again. they're doing this to themselves. and when there is reform, and when people talk about a new supreme court that will be less political, and more representative of the country, they can scream and yell all they want it's gonna be their fault. when >> it's all there are only doing. >> it will be poor court packing. this is going to be, i predict, a bipartisan group of people that are gonna come together, and say how do we reform this court? and take vicious politics, and the billions, and billions of dollars -- >> >> where does that money come from? >> that the federal society has, to twist and distort this process. >> next, only the best people, until they're not. donald trump falling out with many of the members of his former administration. what he had to say about that, this week. >> this week. >>
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have hired the best people. >> only the best people. >> only the best people, and trashing them after they leave his administration. take a look. >> we are going to appoint mad dog mattis as our secretary of defense. they say he is the closest thing to general george paton that we have, and it's about time, it's about time. >> mattis was a highly overrated general, didn't do the job, didn't do good on i.s.i.s.. it was prior, as you know, by president obama, and i fired him as well. >> rex tillerson, secretary of state. he's gonna do a great job. he's respected all over the world, i think is gonna go down as one of our great, great secretaries. >> in an angry tweet this morning, he called tillerson, dom as a rock, and totally ill prepared and ill equipped to be
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secretary of state. >> -- he was a highly respected gentleman, with a great career, west point, harvard, a tremendous talent. -- acting secretary of defense. >> he has said quote, you were a lightweight, a figurehead. he said mark esper was weak, totally ineffective. he said he would do anything i wanted. >> secretary chair, you've been so fantastic in so many ways. transportation, it's just moving along, and you have done a fantastic job for me, and for the country, and i appreciate all that you do. >> in his post on truth, trump said mcconnell quote, has a death wish, and must immediately seek health and advice from his china loving wife coco chao. >> by the way, we got through all these other things, but when he puts a death wish in all caps, he's calling out to
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his supporters to kill mitch mcconnell. >> so in the interview on fox news last night, host brett bare pressed donald trump about that long list of staffers who no longer support him. and several more who trump himself has attacked, and called names. >> we put people in that were great, and we put people in that weren't. i now know washington probably better than anybody. i know the good ones, and the bad ones, we will have really great, strong people. i already know who they are, but we will have really great strong people. >> okay, in 2016 you said that. i'm gonna surround myself with only the best and most serious people. >> well i did do that -- and look, we have the best economy we've ever had, -- >> your vice president mike pence is running against you, your ambassador of the united nations, nikki haley, she's running against you. mike pompeo says he's not supporting you. you mentioned national security, he's not supporting you either.
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attorney general bill barr, he says you should be president again. he calls you a narcissist and a troubled man. you recently called barr got less paid. your second defense secretary is not supporting you. he called you irresponsible. this week you and your white house, your white house chief of staff -- week, ineffective, born with the small bright. you called your acting white house mick mulvaney aboard loser. you called your first secretary of state, rex tillerson, dom as a rock. and your first offense under terry, james mattis, the world's most overrated general. you called your white house secretary -- i multiple times your transportation secretary elaine chao as mitch mcconnell's china loving wife. so why did you hire all of them in the first place? >> i hired 10 to 1 that were fantastic. we had a great economy, we had phenomenal people in charge of the economy. we had phenomenal people in the military. i'm not a fan of certain
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television people. but i knock down ices. i defeated ices, they said mattis, it would take three years, and i don't think i could do it. i did in a period of four weeks. >> there's a lot of people who praise you for your policies, i just said that. >> that's true. wages went through a list. forget, everyone that you say, i've had that love us. >> there's so many things to get to there. first of all, this is what he does. and everybody look to go. and when he was in the white house, people let it go, even people on this network would say, well yes of course the economy is the best it's ever been under donald. it's not? it's just not! he was seventh, before covid, gdp growth under donald trump was way behind. way behind so many other presidents postwar. even jimmy carter, pre-covid, jimmy carter had higher gdp growth. the economy grew faster under jimmy carter then under donald
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trump. all right? so republicans who attacked jimmy carter all the time, yeah, no. jimmy carter did a better job with the economy than donald trump. it grew faster. as it did with several other presidents. so first of all, let's lay that lie to rest. and the way that he mismanaged covid -- it made him actually the worst president on the economy since her herbert hoover. let me say that again, by the numbers, by his acts of omissions. >> to kind. >> donald trump was the worst president on the economy since herbert hoover. this is a data that you can look up from trump administration. >> and you mentioned, he knew covid was company, it was coming, he knew it would kill tens of thousands of people. he withheld the information. >> he lied. he withheld information. >> it was murderous. >> and who got paid, who paid for that economically? all of us did.
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every american did. and people died. millions of people died. that's one thing, the second thing, i defeated i.s.i.s.. i've never heard a president, i've never heard a commander-in-chief say something so stupid in all of my life. no, the men and women in uniform, that donald trump and trumpers regularly attack, men and women in uniform who went over there to risk their lives, they defeated i.s.i.s.. under barack obama's leadership, under donald trump's leadership. so again, that whole i-defeated -- it's grotesque. >> it really is. >> it's on american. and it explains why donald trump would think that it was his army. like toy soldiers he could play with. they were his. and why he thinks nuclear secrets were also his. my military, no donald, not your military. it's america's military. you didn't do anything.
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i held back. >> thank you. >> you didn't do anything that barack obama didn't start, and that our men and women in uniform didn't execute. they are the ones that get all of the credit. not presidents. >> next. if a justice excess 100,000 dollar gift from a political donor, they should probably disclose that, right? we're talking ethics, and the supreme court, after a short break. short break. better, but i struggled with uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia. td can be caused by some mental health meds. and it's unlikely to improve without treatment. i felt like my movements were in the spotlight. ingrezza is a prescription medicine to treat adults with td movements. ingrezza is different. it's the simple, once-daily treatment proven to reduce td that's #1 prescribed. people taking ingrezza can stay on their current dose of most mental health meds. ingrezza 80 mg is proven to reduce
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july of 2008, say that he went on a fishing trip to a 2000 dollar a night luxury resort in alaska. the justice flew there on a private jet, that would've cost roughly $100,000.01 way. according to propublica, the trip was played for by gop megadonor paul singer. who at the time was trying to get the supreme court to take up a case that involved his company. the justice does not report the trip on his annual disclosure forms, which experts say may be a violation of a federal law that requires justices to disclose most gifts. the supreme court ultimately declined to take singer's case on that appeal. but in the years that followed, singer's business went before the court at least ten times. including a 2014 case in which alito sided with the majority
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in singers favor. raising ethical concerns. in response to the report, justice denied any wrongdoing, in an op-ed in the wall street journal, he wrote in part that he believed he was not required to disclose the trip on the private jet, adding that that seat would otherwise have gone on occupied. >> let's bring in right now to senate majority -- chairman of the judiciary committee. -- >> you might have thought about this. >> we're always talking about double standards here. i served with a member of congress who went to ireland on a golfing trip with a lobbyist, came back, later said something planned, i forget exactly what he said on the house floor, but nothing that mind you made any newspaper reports. he ended up in jail. here you've got a supreme court justice who flies to alaska, gets $100, 000, comes back, and he, he votes on a case, at least one case, i think this argentina case, i'd be shocked
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if he didn't know that paul singer was involved in that argentina case. even though it was a 71 vote, at the very least, if you don't recruit yourself, shouldn't we have basic ethical guidelines in the supreme court? that makes these justices, left and right, disclose those financial entanglements? >> well joe of course we should. i think because summary of the situation was complete, but for one fact. one ruling by the supreme court in paul singer's favor was worth 2.4 billion dollars to his company. we're not talking about minor rulings on issues that are irrelevant. these are substantial. here's a bottom line as far as i see it. the disclosures about justice leto, strangely, and sadly, parallel, the same disclosures about justice thomas. it appears that there is a feeling of the supreme court that it's none of our business. the public doesn't need to know about these conflicts of interest. and justices don't need to
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recuse themselves from critical decisions that are worth billions of dollars from people who are befriending them on vacations. that has got to come to an end. there is one person who could end it before the sun sets today. chief justice john roberts. it's time for him to step up, and announced that there will be a code of ethics for the supreme court, and the disclosure laws will apply, and they will follow at least the same rules as every other federal judge in america. not doing so is really at the expense of the reputation of the court. >> yes, and don't have them voting -- he said into institutionalist who has at times fiercely try to protect the reputation of the court. so you think that he would do that. i do wonder senator. how much power do you have? what is your jurisdiction in the united states congress to pass that sort of code of ethics? people don't understand, but you know, the supreme court didn't used to be as powerful as it is. in fact it used to sit in the
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basement of the capitol. >> i can tell you this joe, we passed a law last year about disclosure of stock ownership, and the justices of the court assume that it wouldn't apply to them, and they would comply with it. we found too many cases where federal judges were ruling on matters about corporations that they own stock in. that had to come to an end, they accepted a law that we passed last year as a standard that they would live by as well. the same thing is true about the ethics, the ethics law we passed several decades ago. not only are we following, it but in the cases of leto and thomas, the failed to disclose a very basic things. joe you and i know very well, having served in congress what the rules are in terms of gifts that you can accept, and whether you have to go to the ethics committee for approval. and what you have to disclose each ear annually on your financial disclosure. at a minimum, the supreme court justices ought to be held at the same standard. >> next, a dramatic shift to
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with near unanimous support, despite deep political divides. joining us now with more, nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel. richard. how are they able to get this done? >> well, the secret is it wasn't even that difficult. there were these two mass shootings last month, they were extremely rare, people were outraged, they took to the streets, but they weren't just dismissed as tragedies, dismissed as part of a problem that is too difficult to confront. the people got together, the government got together. lawmakers from a variety of political parties put their differences aside, and they radically changed the entire country is relationship with guns. e >> serbians didn't see it coming. yes, they have a lot of guns in this country, the third most per capita after the united states and yemen. but they've never been used
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like this before. on may 3rd, a 13 year old boy, for reasons still unclear, stormed into a school with two of his father's guns, and a hit list. he killed eight classmates. the next day, a man in his twenties, with a history of violence opened fire in a village, killing eight more. but then came more than thoughts and prayers. outrage became action. tens of thousands demanded not just tighter gun control, but a re-orientation of society, away from violence. a reaction against arm range. >> i think a lot of us have had enough, now it's a make-or-break point. >> -- nine year old daughter zora was in the school when the 13-year-old boy went on a killing spree. >> what would you say to americans who have been through this, and then see no change? >> i would say to them, you know, safeguard your democracy.
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if you still have it. and mobilize. and act. >> within weeks of the shootings here, new laws were introduced, and old ones and forced. now, all existing gun permits are under review. all sales of new guns, of any type, are banned for two years. gun owners must submit to in-person psychological and background checks. and owning in illegal gun is punishable by up to 15 years in prison. many serbians are deciding being armed isn't worth the risk or the hassle. and are turning in their guns voluntarily. >> there's lots of a case and assault rifles. >> there are 70,000 guns in this police warehouse, surrendered under no questions asked amnesty. the deputy minister says this is only the start. he wants to take 90% of guns off the streets soon. >> what do you think when you see all of this? >> i see life saved.
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i see children's lives to save. i see betty, better safety for society. >> serbia is deeply divided politically, over populism, abortion, and gender identity. but overhauling con loss was universally popular. -- [inaudible] >> there's outrage every time there's one of these mass shootings in the united states, every time, but every, very little is done about it. why is it you think you are able to cross political divides? >> i'd say the, won the precondition for that is that we are not having this, these big gun lobbies, and begin to see behind it. >> there had been more than 300 mass shootings in the united states this year so far. just two in serbia, that was more than enough to change people, or to convince people to change course. >> wow, that is incredible. >> nbc's richard engel. thank you so much. >> next, as we mark one year
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the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, allowing states to restrict abortion. but, in minnesota, the legislature moved this year to codify abortion rights. this week we talked to minnesota governor tim walz about this. here's our conversation. well governor walz, thank you so much for coming on the show. tell us more about your state, and how it is handling abortion access. and argue finding that women are coming to your state to get that health care? >> yes, good morning. yes they are unfortunately they're coming from across the country. we have the radical notion that we trust women to make their own health care decisions.
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as we've seen this march across the country, on restrictions since the dobbs decision, we simply in minnesota aren't gonna let it stand. we need to make sure that we are not just passively doing things, we are aggressively moving forward in order to protect women, providers, and protect folks who unfortunately have to travel from across the country. and the neighborhood where i'm at, people all around me have the strictest abortion laws around me. six-week abortion ban, no exceptions. i think it's important to get the story out there, there are states making moves, and in minnesota, we're gonna continue to expand freedom. we're gonna continue to make that a priority. >> so susan page, you can take the next question to the governor. i know usa today has a report this morning on support for legal abortion rising. >> in the usa today poll, we found one in four americans tell us they are more supportive of legal abortion then they were before the
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decision came down. that they have changed their opinion on an issue where public opinion was pretty well solidified to be more supportive of legal abortion. governor, i want to ask you, we talked about how minnesota has states around it that restrict abortion, even at six week. are you worried about the consequences of having this patchwork of laws in the united states on this issue of access to abortion? >> it's horrific. i think susan you recognize this, especially women who are economically challenged. it's difficult. what do you do? go to minneapolis? try and get a hotel? those type of things? i want to applaud folks across minnesota, are nonprofits, planned parenthood, the dakotas of minnesota, making sure that we're providing some of that access. but of course, that's exactly what's gonna happen. we're gonna see more complications. it doesn't surprise me that those numbers are up in support of this. because since the dobbs decision, a lot of americans, especially men, got educated that abortion is health care. these are absolutely, they've
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heard horrific stories of pregnancy is gone bad. and i think many of these minors trying to say look, this is my, wife my daughter, my sister. and this idea that for political reasons, to restrict a, long established medical procedure that helps women deal with and make their own choices, it is simply going to be popular. i do not know there that republicans have absolutely no agenda other than restriction of rights. the collapsing of set precedents, and then bringing fear in. i think in minnesota, we're saying, that's not gonna happen. whether it's abortion, it's not gonna stand. >> i want to turn you to the economy. now there is been some good news suggesting inflation is cooling. but for so many americans it is still high, every day items are still costing more than they believe they should. give an idea to how folks in your state are doing. and what more do you think the federal government could do, or you know, whether you at the state level could be doing to
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help americans in minnesota's in this case with inflation. and rising costs. >> well first of all thank goodness for the arpan dollars coming out of covid, thanks to the iag. eight infrastructure dollars, and the i.r.a.. with that being said, minneapolis was just listened as the city with the lowest increase in inflation. but it is still high. i think what we did in minnesota, we made a commitment, in a whole agenda was to make life more affordable so it could be the best day to raise a family. whether that sending back rebate checks, which we're going to do. reducing taxes on the middle class, making sure we're making childcare affordable. i'm tell, you are employers, we're home to 16 fortune 500 companies. we have incredibly low unemployment rates. we know there's people on the sidelines that we need to make sure that we're making childcare affordable for. we've done something, we made free breakfast and lunch for all students in schools. i know a lot of people say, lower income students got that. those are a challenge for folks that are making, 80, 90,000 a year. so i think moving those things to make life more affordable
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for the middle class, making those things that they care about, whether children's education, access to health care. and then sending back a little bit of money and forms of checks, especially in time for when school get started here in fall. we're still feeling, it but it is improving, and i have to tell, you there's a sense of optimism out there. i saw on earlier segment, manufacturing, chip manufacturing, we are the center of medical device manufacturing. medtronic, 3 am, boston scientific. those companies. but is spreading further than that. manufacturing, that our children are seeing, skilled trades, skilled manufacturing is an opportunity for them. >> minnesota governor tim wallace, thank you. in so many ways, thank you for being on the show this morning. >> thank you mika. >> coming up, actors josh gad and andrew reynolds are reuniting for a new broadway musical. it has been 12 years since they perform together. >> do you want to dance with them? >> they're gonna do it for us. they gave us an exclusive sneak
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♪ ♪ ♪ >> that was grammy award winning actor andrew reynolds, at the tony awards in 2011, performing the song entitled i believe from the hit broadway musical the buck of mormon. and now andrew and his book of mormon costar, josh gad, will reunite on broadway for the first time in over a decade. for guttenberg the musical. you're back the two of you are back. and i think to say to you josh god. >> we're back! >> yeah you're doing it. i'm scared for your audience. you want to know why? can i explain why? i'm gonna tell you why, because let's see 12 years ago my
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daughters were 11 and 15 and josh you know where i'm going with this. >> i remember this. >> tickets to the book of mormon that was me i was watching i believe right there and everything else that happened on that stage. and so was my 11 -- i think they suffer post traumatic stress still. >> no, they just needed to learn those words. >> it did serve a generation for the worst. >> they were gonna learn them eventually, but yeah, we probably should or put warnings outside the door, do not come to the show if you are under, maybe 17. >> maybe. >> i'm sure they've turned into a lovely young women now, so this is great. >> lovely young women with filthy mouths. >> exactly. you guys just nailed it. and thank you both. so andrew, you said after years of relentless stalking, and countless restraining orders, josh got has finally gotten me to agree to stare the stage with him again.
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so is he a little aggressive? >> it's true. what's going on here? >> he's pleasantly, pleasantly aggressive. we have been, you know, talking about, this thinking about what show would we like to do, to come back to broadway together. >> and then phantom closed so, -- >> that was out the window. >> wicked would not have us. we tried, we tried. >> no cats? >> no cast. >> still too soon. >> still too soon for cats. >> and too late. >> but that was 2012 that josh and i left the book of mormon, at the same time. so it has taken all of this time, but we finally, we finally found a show that seemed to really fit the bill, it's called guttenberg the musical. the amazing alex timber, who is directing the show, came to us with this idea. and josh and i -- >> we mediately fell in love with it. >> we did. and we, we asked if we could do it as a movie, they said no.
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so we're gonna do it on stage. >> yeah, so josh is decided to come crawling back to broadway. >> well you know what, i have to say, that is great news for broadway. and i am also just going to point out here. that you guys haven't changed one bit. like i'm sitting here, like a lot older, and you guys look really good. what is going on here? it's not fair >> it's a new skin face filter that we are both using, is artificial intelligence. >> they're filming us through a horse plank it right now. >> we actually both have gray hair, and i'm actually much -- yeah. >> thank you for saying that. >> i'm much larger. >> sometimes you look back at those book of mormon photos, and they're rough. >> i mean no, but, like time has passed. >> you guys look perfect. okay, so you said guttenberg is a hysterical love letter to musical theater. tell us about it. and are my, are my nieces, who
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are now the age my daughters weren't, are they safe to see it? >> this one is totally safe. >> totally bring your nieces to it. >> as long as they also are foul mouthed children. no, this is, the book of mormon, this is not. it is as funny, but i think, i think younger audiences can come to this one. >> most definitely. it is a, you know, it's very much a love letter to musical theater. josh and i will be playing two characters name bug and dog. >> did you say bud and dug? >> who have written this musical. they want to write a hit musical, and they've decided that historical musicals are probably the most successful on broadway. >> because they are. >> they just randomly pick yohan guttenberg, the inventor of the printing press. >> we audition this out in front of a live audience, antron i got to play about 12
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characters each, we sing many delightful songs, it really, i had been looking for a show to come back to for over a decade. and i read this script, we read the script in 2020. i immediately called up andrew, i go, i think i just read the funniest thing i've read since mormon. and i think you have to read this. he read, it and we did a workshop of it over the course of a week. and then we were like, this is it, let's do this. and andrew went home, and it was, it was an inconsequential month. i think it was march of 2020. >> i think that's right. >> we did that reading, and for some reason -- josh, as i'm closing the segment, do you want to do some of those vocal warm ups, just to sort of give us a sense of your range? >> we'll enter, which songs of all the songs, which one do you like. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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♪ ♪ ♪ andrew reynolds and i are gonna seeing together every night for the next four months. >> guttenberg musical will be coming to broadway this fall, as you can hear, with its opening officially set for october 12th. angela reynolds and josh dad. god, thank you both very much. >> and that does it for now. rebecca monday morning, it's 6 am eastern, have a great rest of your weekend. >> good morning. katie phang, you normally see at this time, as the weekend off. breaking news. unrest in russia. president vladimir putin tries to calm and anxious nation, as his one-time confident and mercenary fighters accused of
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