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rnet. i was just trying to improve our signal, so some of the trees had to go. i might've taken it a step too far. (chainsaw revs) (tree crashes) (chainsaw continues) (daughter screams) let's pretend for a second that you didn't let down your entire family. what would that reality look like? well i guess i would've gotten us xfinity... and we'd have a better view. do you need mulch? what, we have a ton of mulch.
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speaking to a music journalist, it's monday, the 26th of june. of the most serious threat to vladimir putin's grip on power, still no sightings of two men at the center of this crisis. go get screened. fergie says she's screened herself for cancer and urges earn else to get checked. also, the health minister, on weather they'll look at review board expectations for the staff. >> the point is to have a process where you have expert advice. >> this isn't no way to run a country. they should have been sorting these out a long time ago. we should have never ended up in
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this position. >> keeping the legend alive, andy murray tells "sky news" he wants to play on for as long as he can. >> i want to keep playing for a bit longer. i know it's not going to be going on forever, but i have an idea when i would like to finish, and it's not this year's wimbledon. ♪ beyond the yellow brick road ohhhh ♪ >> reaching the end of his road with his final live uk performance, sir elton. ♪ what do you think you do then i bet that you down the plane ♪♪ 76 years old. what a legend. more on sir elton later on. before that, though, after a
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weekend that shook the kremlin, the united states is warning that the rebellion shows real cracks in vladimir putin's government. the whereabouts of the leader of the mutiny by the rehn gate wagner mercenaries yevgeny prigozhin has been unheard of since coming to an agreement on saturday to avert bloodshed in the russian capital. but another important figure back to work. defense minister sergei shoigu back to work. the implication is mr. shoigu is still in post after being in yevgeny prigozhin's crosshairs. let's get the latest. diana is standing by for us in moscow. good morning to you, diana. it looks like the minister is still in post. where are the other two?
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>> i think as you said about that video, there is speculation of russian programming that it was reported in advance, so we don't know if he's up and about, but certainly the defense ministry wants us to think he's up and about inspecting his military forces. it's to show he's very much in control and in position. as for vladimir putin, we haven't seen anything of him. there are rumors that he was going to be meeting with his ministry of defense board at some point, but we haven't anything confirmed on that. what i expect is that the kremlin will put out video of him going about his daily business very soon to suggest there's nothing to see here and all is firmly under control. as for yevgeny prigozhin, i imagine he will be tucked away in belarus and not really encouraged to post anything any time soon. if you go to his wagner telegram
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posts, you can't connect through to them now that they've started to dismantle the wagner system here in russia interestingly, so i think he will be urged to take quite a quiet position for the time being. but as you say, lots of comments that this is the beginning of the unraveling of the putin regime. i think we shall have to see. it is possible that putin will think about changing his top military command at some point, but i doubt he'll do that any time soon, because he won't want to look like he's responding to pressure, and he does like loyalty, and sergei has been very loyal to him. >> thank you. we have our reporter on the ground in dnipro in ukraine and he sent us this update. >> reporter: they do think putin's been weakened by this,
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this revolt was launched so easily. it was welcome as heroes in parts of russia. putin saud they will be punished. they have not been punished, which shows he's weaker. but i think they're not getting carried away with this, ukraine. for them, if they seize the beginning of it as has been predicted by many analysts over the weekend, the key question is how long is that going to play out because they're on a clock here, they believe. they know that western appetite for support in this war probably is not infinite. there are candidates selected-- candidates select in the u.s. that are not likely to support ukraine. they have to get the support they're getting right now. we're hearing from president zelenskyy they must not lose their guard. i think there's a sense they are encouraged by this, but they
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don't trust anything they hear from russia or believe. they don't really believe what they've seen or what's been presented so far. in terms of whether it's helped the military or not, the latest from the defense ministry this morning is they've taken 130 square kilometers of land since the counteroffensive began. no change here from a military defense at all. now to the claims that ministers could take the next step of rejecting some recommendations of pay view boards for workers. i pressed the health worker on it. she insisted the government wouldn't resist. >> we have a number one priority of bringing down inflation, and actually the job in government and the job of prime minister is
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to make tough decisions. >> just to clarify, can teachers expect between 6 and 6.5 as has been recommended? >> i'm not going to preempt the review of the government bodies. >> we've talked about perj pair increases. you've always said we have to abide by what the independent pay review board suggests. >> i don't believe that's what we've said. usually i've said in the past, i believe, is we look at the recommendations. it's very important they provide us -- >> the chairman is chosen by the prime minister and you tell them what the budgets are. what's the point? >> the point is to have an expert for expert advice on pay, but the government has to make decisions. >> it was only a few months ago they said they couldn't possibly
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pay out more than what the pay review body said. today they seem to be saying they're going to your ride the pay review board. this is economic policy by press releases, is it not? they thought they could run this as, oh, these are labor strikes. this isn't no way to run a country. they should have been sorting these out a long time ago. we should have never ended up in this position. you know, we've still got nurses on strike, doctors on strike, teachers that have been saying they want to talk to the government for i don't know how long, and now we have the government vacillating between are we going to pay attention to the pay review body or aren't we going to pay attention to the pay review body? >> great question tomorrow. >> yes, indeed. in december when the nurses strike first surfaced and it was a huge shock for the first time in a hundred year the nurses were going on strike, steve barkley tweeted, we have an
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independent body campaigned to set up and we will continue to defer to that process, and that was a line for many weeks. it is not a panel of minister. there's a panel of independent people who wait for these decisions to be made. about half of the public sector work is covered by the body, whether it's nurses, doctors, police officers, or teachers, but now they've said in a rare interview yesterday that when the next round of recommendations come out and we are expecting the teachers, one will be, for example, over 6%. he said if the government can't afford it, we won't follow those recommendations which they aren't buying, but it's the convention they do. the government, particularly this government in recent years, hasn't always done what those bodies have recommended, but they're informed by the government. the government says this is how much money we've got. this is our inflation target. they look at the issues how much difficulty the sectors are
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having. given this backdrop of huge public sector in the last few months, if the government was to ignore the recommendations and open the door to much more strikes as we head into the year before the election, i think that could really, really escalate the difficulties the public sector are facing and also the people's experiences of the nhs and schools. let's talk about the duchess of york, should we, sarah ferguson. she's urged people to get check after she's been treated for breast cancer. she had a mass textmy. she found out she had an early form of the disease during a routine mammogram. >> i'm telling you i'm going doing this. i'm telling people out there because i want every single person that is listening to this broadcast to go get checked go, get screened. go do it. >> how is she? >> she's making a very good
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recovery. we know she was discharged yesterday from hospital. she's being treated here in central london at the king edward vii hospital, which treats the royal family. she held tea talks where she talked about personal experiences and it's been a very personal experience for her. today the episode has come out with her experience of both being diagnosed with breast cancer and the operation to remove one of her breasts. we understand she's making a good recovery, but she's encouraging lots of people to make sure they have their mammograms because she didn't have any symptoms at all, and so this was picked up on the routine screening you have between the ages of 50 and 71 for women, and so she's really, i think, using her platform to urge other women to make sure that they go and get their screenings to make sure that it's picked up. >> okay. thanks very much indeed.
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so she is recovering with her family is what we're being told, but underlining the facts you'll get called following the screening, it's not very pleasant, but it could save your life. if you're over 50 and a woman who lives in wales, you eat get calls every three years. don't ignore it. the duchess of york had no symptoms at all and yet she had to have a mass textmy. it does make a difference. go for the screening. >> let's take you to russia. extraordinary rebellion may have ended over the weekend, but questions persist about what it's done to vladimir putin's long grip on power and the implications for the war in ukraine. with us now is the ukrainian ambassador to ukraine. hi. how was the weekend for you? >> as for many, many people in ukraine, watching russia and tv
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and trying to understand what actually is happened? >> what is happening? >> there is no shortage of opinions from experts as to who, what, why. prigozhin, careful military man, business man, but the most important is putin is weakened. it's like the spied never the jar. the one who will get out of it will be wounded and weakened. >> but you need to be careful about people like prigozhin. be careful what you wish for is what we say in the west. >> we have no mistake. but the problem is that they started looking for the sort of better project. he was treated like a rock star. look at the bureaucrats. they say the security council was immediately available to support putin on tv. look at the military commanders.
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he had no position. he was 100 millimeters from moscow. and oligarchs. all the system is looking for the better way out. >> how much was better than this? was he actually with his merngs 20,000, 25,000, depending on who you listened to, marched on moscow, there significantly would have been bloodshed? >> i agree. his masters probably thought this would be a collapse or they would have a better view now. we have no idea why he turned back. but actually we're expecting what will happen will be awful. shoigu appeared on tv showing that he's still -- >> that was recorded, that footage. >> maybe, maybe. but that's what is actually happening.
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remember gorbachev survived only to be replaced in months. >> what sort of impact is this happening on the people in ukraine? what's happening? >> everybody know's what's happening. we're watching. it was quite a wise move of our minister of defense to aur russian soldiers to leave their positions to actually clean up their own house. so they offered them to go back home and tried to do something so they can actually save their lives, but now the worst is back. we took advantage of the situation, of the mismanagement of the russian side. >> what did you manage to do? >> a couple of millimeters here and there, but we're trying to understand where their positions are weaker. >> has this defense begun in earnest? >> it's already begun.
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we hope that through the tries and attempts everywhere around the whole 1,000 kilometers, we'll find the weaker place. >> how concerned are you about prigozhin, the wagner leader, going into exile in belarus, to the north of your country, also suggesting nuclear weapons have been put in place by putin on the federation president? >> the nuclear threat is a real threat, not just for ukraine but everybody on this planet it. we're worried about our own nuclear station. we have to be careful. i do not believe the force will threaten our lands because we're keeping forces strong enough there. interesting point is lukashenko is growing in importance. he was planning all this along
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to become something more important than a russian leader. that's one of the reasons why he believed to become a union state with russia. now's the best time to increase his career. >> i'm interested to learn more. when you talk about the pay masters, who do you think they are? >> what they're not happy with is they're losing. they took an enormous risk to support prigozhin. >> but prigozhin doesn't want to end the war. >> that's why i'm saying they are still our enemies. >> what are you concerned about? >> we're concerned it's not just a way. all the red lines were already crossed. there is a time for fighting happily and we receive support
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from the west. look at this london conference and the climate recovery of ukraine. billions and billions were lost. >> big day in ukraine tomorrow. >> it is. >> tell me more. >> some are saying we've been preparing for quite a while. we'll see how everything will go. >> as far as lukashenko is concerned, do you feel that the leaders of the wagner group, prigozhin going to his countrier has strengthened his position? >> i don't believe that prigozhin is that important, especially anymore. >> really? >> he pledged his own hope. >> he almost brought down the president. >> i know. at least he tried go there and he scared everybody in the hills or the system and some people are obviously supporting him, but we have to watch for another leader to come. prigozhin was not the only one who was quite popular. and i'm just sensing the situation. it was another guy who arrived
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in 2014. he's a minor figure on his own local tvs. >> when are you guys going to get around the table with the russians? >> as soon as things are stable with the borders. >> even if you move russia back to their own border, there's still going to be a problem with that border. >> the problem is quite weak. we'll finish what happened. russia will be a huge danger to us all, especially the collapse. there will be even more danger, but that's what we're prepared to do. we'll prepare to fight. maybe they'll clean out their own system and try to do something better than they used to. >> so the bottom line is for ukrainians, for president zelenskyy, that you will not see an end to this war until you have recovered all of the land that was taken by russia including crimea. >> here's what we're going to do. we're planning to fight.
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we have enough resources to do so. we're very aware of the losses we're having. we're understanding how difficult it is. but at the same time, it's the best chance of us to build our own independent state. >> did you allow yourself at any stage over the weekend to -- in moscow in february of last year you were threatened that your capital would be taken in 24, 48 hours. over the weekend in a 180-degree turnaround, it was moscow who was taken. >> now they're talking about defending their own capital. that's what's happened to each and every aggressor. as to whether ukraine's happy what's happening, i wouldn't say happy, but some relief.
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>> your commander fighting in bakhmut, he was sitting watching the video watching popcorn. >> yeah, that's the story, eating popcorn to watch this drama unfolding, but fortunately for us, it was short lived. we hope it will distract most of the authorities on the ukraine front. >> that's what you want, to have a distraction on your own turf to bring forward your advances. >> listen, i would be happy if our security forces are so good we created the precaution and help. i'd like to think this way. but i believe there are internal problems we'll take advantage of for sure. >> how worried are you with what's happening with the nuclear power plants? >> this is the biggest power plant in europe. the nuclear disaster is possible
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for everyone and that's what president zelenskyy is trying to reach the leaders around the globe that we have to do something before it's too late. the question is what do we do. >> before we go, is this another pivotal moment in the world? >> i believe it's very important and we'll know more in a couple of days, but i believe it's very important. the leader of russia is so weakened, they will have to rescind their stretches, that's for sure. >> what do you expect will happen? >> i hope there will be something done with the military demand. don't forget they have their elections. it is not only you or us, united states. we have to expect to see a different result. >> it's good to see you. thank you very much for joining us, mr. ambassador. still to come, sydney world goes into administration. we'll tell you more in just a minute. you more jinust a minute
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hello, again. we're telling you about the movies before the break. what on earth is going on. the man in the know. here he is. good morning. >> good morning. we found an announcement from cineworld, major player in this country. they've got more than 700 sites around the world including 128 in this country. that includes the picture house chain. the company said this morning it's going to be going into administration this. is part of a long-running saga in which the country is essentially being overwhelmed by its debts, which according to a statement in the u.s. came to some 8.8 u.s. billion dollars. it was a business founded really very aggressively on the back of expansion plans and involved a lot of borrowing along the way. however, during the pandemic the company was brought to its knees. no one was allowed to go to the
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cinema, and some of the big it markets in chiefly the u stanltsd united kingdom, it was a sad situation where they continue continue paying their debts. they've handled it over to its creditors. that will reduce its borrowings by $4.5 million. there's going to be a new share issue of some $800 million. but in the process the company's shareholder is going to be wiped out. going to be handed over to its creditors. it's going to carry on trading as normal so people who bought tickets with the company will still be able to carry on, going to the cinema, but it's a big change of ownership from what was once a massive company. it was founded in the billions at the height of its power. a very sad story.
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we've had many of them. we've had many businesses that were laid low during the pandemic. >> thanks a lot, ian. now, next monday it is that time again. strawberries, tennis, yep, it's wimbledon. andy murray heading into his 15th wimbledon, surrounded by questions whether it will be his last. but he told us he isn't finished yet. >> i hope not, but you never know. it's why the athletes need to make the most of it whilst they're still able to because if i were to have another big injury, that would finish me, and i wouldn't try to come back from another major operation or surgery again, so, you know, i want to keep playing a bit longer, you know. i know it's not going to be going on forever, but i have an
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idea, you know, when i would like to finish, and it's not this year's wimbledon. >> but it is a stressful lifestyle, isn't it, and it was said you had suicidal thoughts when you lost a match in 2019. does that surprise you? >> probably not. i don't mean in nick's case, but individual sports, it's difficult when you're on the tour. when you're staying in hotel rooms on your own and you've had tough losses and you're away from your friends and family and those sorts of thing, you can have some really tough moments and it doesn't surprise me when athletes struggle their mental health. >> it's been a really big talking point. belarusian players had not been allowed to play. go f you had to play with one of those players from those
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countries, would it affect you in any way. >> i have competed with players from those countries. it hasn't affected me. i have the utmost sympathy for those players playing in that situation. i can only imagine how difficult that must be, you know, for them to deal with, and also the tournament, i thaev on but in a difficult situation as well with the governing bodies. >> well, the will there be sunshine? will there be sunshine well, if they were playing today, they would be fine. there will be some showers, but longer spells of dry weather. rain later in the week, though, after a hot and humid weekend.
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most places will have a plaenltd start this morning with plenty of sunshine and just a few isolated showers in the breezier west. what's going to happen next week though? now, if you were watching at the weekend and you saw what happened with louis capel and the crowd, it would have melted your heart. we'll tell you more in just a short time. l tell you more in j short time ♪ ...i'm over 45. ♪ ♪ i realize i'm no spring chicken. ♪ ♪ i know what's right for me. ♪ ♪ i've got a plan to which i'm sticking. ♪ ♪ my doc wrote me the script. ♪ ♪ box came by mail. ♪ ♪ showed up on friday. ♪ ♪ i screened with cologuard and did it my way! ♪ cologuard is a one-of-a kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45 plus at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for cologuard.
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is . hello, again, everyone. we've been talking about sir elton john. you said -- we talked about the arctic monkeys. >> gordon used to love them
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apparently. >> he has it on his desk. >> you're making that up. >> if gordon said it, it must be true. i was never a electronics guy. i'm more of a -- >> it seems potentially otherwise. >> yes. it used to be the government defense ultimately when you had these calls for them to say, this is what the independent pay review body says, and you must have the government hiding behind it. now you have a situation where the government is thinking is the independent pay review body talks about it. there are concerns about inflationary pressures. there is precedent for governments occasionally to ignore independent pay review body either way, but i think as your question correctly puts out, you have a situation where it looks a little bit so the
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government is using them when it's helpful to them. >> i understand that inflation is not dictated to by public sector pay. am i wrong. >> no, you're not wrong. if you increase the pay for teachers, the cost of going to school doesn't increase. i don't have to pay more for my kids. so you don't have to pay more. there's no price makers. anyway, public sector workers are only 14% of the work force, 18% in britain actually work in the private sector, so it's a crazy idea, and i think it's another excuse to hold down something the government can hold down on and it seems very odd for the conservative government to be floating, and it's going to turn down the police pay review body as well. margaret thatcher would never have done sh. she gave them a whacking increase. she understand the politics of it. i think it's getting dangerous. the doctors are dug in.
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i don't know how the nhs is held by having a shortage in staff and having the pay held down. >> along with stopping the votes i was told by the minister this morning. it's going to become a big problem for him and jeremy hunt, as well, i'm guessing, in the form of the chancellor. what can we do? >> there's been reports we might ignore some of the recommendations and the brokerage minister has not said anything to dispute that narrative. they used to have reports about breaks in talks and bonus payment. it may not be enough. again, it could be different see naer owes for different professions. i mean we could be seeing something along those lines, and i think particularly on junior doctors, it does go completely against achieving one of the prime minister's five
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priorities. >> longest strike in history they're planning. >> and when you speak to figures in the house on this, it's junior doctors that are on strike that they think most affects the nhs waiting lists. while that's ongoing, i think that's one where they'll have to pay particular focus. as you say, if they turn these things down, it's going to be politically problematic. you have the governor andrew bailey saying everyone should be taking wage increases. we've seen from the criticism he's received, it's been a difficult argument. >> yeah. now, labor is not without its issues, it has to be said, and there are suggestions that he's had enough and he's going to demote him. >> i don't think so. look, it's always difficult to have a former leader in your
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government. when i spoke to him privately about politics, he saud to me pretty much what a lot of them say to me. i think the politics. >> lotto, i never heard that before. >> lotto. they're kind of agreed on the politics. you notice that when rachel walked it back, ed came in behind that because actually the language she used was ed's language of first we'll use it to cut prices by insulating homes, and second, we'll create jobs. it's more of a strategic agreement in the top of the office. look torque be honest, if there is a reshuffle, we need it now, we need it before the recess. so whoever's appointed can read into their issues and make a great speech at conference, probably the last party conference before the general
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election. >> i hope so. what do you think? >> yeah. i mean, i think it could be -- i think it's unlikely there's an election this year. i think the debate next year is still ongoing and by autumn, they'll defelt. there's a reason the spring election is proceeding. all things would improve given the problems, but getting people out on their door step to vote and so forth, i think with a cabinet reshuffle, it could be a little less exciting than people want it to be. i don't think she wants it to be too dramatic in terms of positions. there's an interesting point. there are particularly, i think, some playwrights who are not completely over it. but they also -- many in the labor party thinks he sends a
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quite important signal potentially to labor green swing voters in terms of what he says on the environment. >> labor leader needs to not be complaisant. he said that every torey mp who doesn't have a majority of more than 15,000 is in danger of an election. >> what was found out was the sampling was wrong, that the tories were actually solidly in the lead. labor never had a chance. they've refine and refined and refined the policies. i think one of the points is when labor are between 15 and 20 points ahead in the lead, it doesn't matter how tight the election gets or how fast it
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narrows. what happens is there's too many votes to recover on the tories who have lost the votes. the biggest issue on the doorstep, i've come by the election and the issue on the doorstep is mortgages, fear of rises and the impact of rises this. is the fear. there's in case for having an election this year. it's hard to see a case from having a general election next year if you're a strish, and that's the problem. there really is no good news coming for a very long time, it feels. why do politicians always feel that they need to tell us that they're done with the people? >> they're always trying to find ways to be relatable. i mean rishi sunak listens to michael buble, to the horrors of many of the staff. lots of people said, oh, the spin doctors would have told him
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to say that. actually i think most of the spin doctors are horrified that his tastes are as cheesy as watching jenny cooper. >> i like jenny cooper. >> now, look. i know keir likes indy music. when he says his favorite song is orange juice, he's telling the truth. he's a bit of a muser. his taste is from a former student, but katy's absolutely right. politicians want to be relatable, and the thing is, the way to be relatable is to be yourself and not be somebody else. that can be embarrassing like listening to julie cooper or
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michael buble. if that's who you are, that's who you are. >> my favorite sock of all time "sitting on the dock of the bay." it's a great song. this song as well is one of my favorites. ♪ beyond the yellow brick road ohhhhh, ohhhh h, oh ♪♪
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elton john performed his greatest hits during his first and last festival last night on what he said would be his last ever uk gig. he treated fans to "your song," "yellow brick road," and "tiny dancer," as well as a tribute to
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michael george on what would have been his 60th birthday. take a listen. ♪ beyond the yellow brick road ooooo, ooooo, oh ♪♪ >> oh, if you haven't seen it, you really should. joining us is music journalist paul stokes. hey, paul, what was your favorite bit? >> it was just hit after hit after hit. it was great to see brandon flowers from the killers come out. and "don't go breaking my heart." he was giving a leg up to artists and the big moments in their careers going forward. >> was it best performance of all time? in terms of the kind of headliner behind the hits and
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going out, it certainly definitely immediately is up there. what i think is amazing for someone like elton john, you can imagine your last ever uk gig, you want to control all the elements, you want to be in command of how the lights go. he didn't do that. a lot of people who bought the tickets for that set wouldn't know he was playing when he playing for them. there's so many variables. it could have raineded. that's a testament to a great artist. he took a gamble. >> the highlights for me personally was that of louis cappel. let's listen and then we'll talk about him. ♪♪ ♪♪
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>> oh, honestly, tears in my eyes, paul. tell us what happened. >> louis cappel was playing. he took a time-out to sort of get his mental health and everything right. he started to feel he was losing his voice again and he was stopping a big with the evoke cal tick he had and the crowd took of and over and sung the song. they helped him through the last couple of numbers. it was an amazing moment. it was the same with another she went on late and they had to cut the sound, so then the crowd sung the last song for us. it's a great festival for that. you have moments where strangers come together and singing in tune. >> lewis capote yesterday saying he's going to take a step back. we're going to hear from him again, though, richardson we?
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>> i think so. i think he will work out how he's going to perform. whether he will do the bigger hits like this again or whether he will find a way for it to work, we will see. as for sir elton john, we'll hear more records. >> what about deborah harry. she sung. ♪♪ ♪ the time has come but i'm holding on i want to be your number one ♪♪ >> love her, love her, love her. how does she get on? >> absolute legend. in an afternoon -- obviously i mean she absolutely stood out as true sort of icon that she is.
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>> and then also we had youssef or cat stephens. let's listen to that. ♪ we had imaginings we had all kinds of things that we laughed and i needed oh and i remember you ♪ ♪ remember the days at the old school yard we used to cry a lot ♪♪ >> that was a great song as well. this is a legendary glasgow performance, isn't it? >> absolutely. headlining on a friday through the weekend. always helps me have sunshine through the whole of the festival. i'm very jealous watching on the telly. i think it will go down as the
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best at glastonbury. >> you talk about the arctic monkeys. not the usual applause. >> yeah. it's interesting. all the people who were there really enjoyed it and a lot of people watching on the telly say it didn't come across the same way. the front man is not going to talk between songs. he's going from song to song. i saw them on the telly. a lot of people said they were good. >> not enough women as headliners. >> yeah, that has been an issue. obviously across the whole festival, there were a lot of women and they were very conscious and proactive in terms of getting people into slots like that. the focus always comes back to the pyramid stage. they had somebody else lined up, and so they headed to guns n'
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roses. one of the problems for a big festival like this, you're going to be the subject of logistics and people's diaries and things like that. i think they run a very good product. i don't think that will be a long-term issue as long as the artists come up. elton john gave a leg up to new artists. >> okay. as far as that glastonbury is concerned, as i said, it may well go down as one of the best of all time, would you agree with that, and if you were to look at it over the three days, what was your favorite moment? >> i think, yeah, i think it definitely -- it's the first one i've watched so much on the telly. it's an interesting perspective. it's certainly the best one i've been to in a long time. to me in terms of my favorite moment, there's a moment who
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played on the park stage earlier. one person was on stage playing acoustic guitar. it was an absolutely captivaing performance. one person standing on the stage could control the whole people. it's amazing. just before i let you go, the headliner on the pyramid stage next year on a sunday, is it going to be taylor swift or not? everything is pointing toward that, isn't it? >> there's a big gap in year. i wouldn't want to say it's definitely sunday, but we think it will be one of the three days. >> friday and saturday she's selling for wembley. some days diary is clear. >> who knows. you know. >> who knows. who knows. >> they could pull anyone out of the background.
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>> it's good to talk to you always. thank you as always. can we listen to elton one more time? can we? one more time. one more time. ♪ beyond the yellow brick road ohhhh, ohhhh, ohhhh ♪♪
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