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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the supreme court rules against republicans in north carolina in a major election case of concern to voting rights advocates, a 6-3 decision with chief justice roberts writing the majority decision. kavanaugh rejecting a theory that would have given state legislatures authority over federal elections, stripping state supreme courts of any role. we will have analysis and reaction. former president trump in new hampshire today. lashing out over the release of damning audio from a new jersey meeting where he appears to show visitors a secret document about a war plan against iran.
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vladimir putin today appearing with his advisors as he tries to reassert his authority, saying he is in control despite the wagner group's weekend rebellion. >> translator: you can see the army, society, and people were one. this has allowed us to overcome the extremely dangerous situation that the country was in. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we have breaking news from the supreme court as the session comes to a close this week or next. a decision written by chief justice roberts rejecting republican efforts to allow state legislatures authority to
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regulate federal elections without review by state supreme courts. the decision was a big relief for voting rights groups who had feared the high court would validate republican efforts to prevent any challenges to gerrymandering of congressional districts. the dispute began in north carolina after their supreme court struck down a new congressional map drown in 2021 by the state's republican-controlled legislature. joining me now, laura jarrett, danielle holly, the president-elect and dean of howard law school and doug high. laura, to you. i want to play what we heard this morning from the lawyer who argued this before the justices. >> there's a lot of commentary through the 18 months or so of this case that this court is too biased, they interpret things a
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certain way and there's no way we could win and that this was a way to give the republicans major control over federal elections. i just didn't buy that. maybe because i'm a supreme court lawyer. my job is to argue there. in the end, i do think that history can provide clear answers to questions. >> laura, there was such an interesting mix of justices in the majority here. take us through the decision and the majority opinion, as i said, written by the chief justice. >> written by the chief justice. also joined by barrett and kavanaugh, rejecting what has once been sort of a fringe outlier of a theory but made a re-emergence most powerfully in 2020 by the former president and some of his allies. the idea was really about power. who has the power when it comes to deciding some of these federal election disputes? should state courts have a role to play? is it really just the power
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vested in the state legislature? today the court said, we will hold with precedent here and we will maintain the status quo and say state courts have a role to play when it comes to some of the disputes. not just gerrymandering and not just north carolina but voter i.d. and the idea of setting the polling place hours. the republican legislature brought this case had gotten their way, state courts would have no role to play at all. think back to all of the disputes we saw in 2020, in all those cases where state courts really served as a check on the system, if they had gotten their way, the state courts' hands would have been tied. today, the high court deciding they did not want to buy into that theory ahead of 2024. >> danielle, this has been a staple in similar situations throughout history. how important is today's ruling? i would expect from what laura said, this is a big deal.
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>> this is really a big deal. at the beginning of the tefrm, people were talking about this being a case that could end democracy. in the sense it could really rebalance how we think about the way that state legislatures operate in the area of voting. to have the supreme court reaffirm that there's a role for state courts is a big deal. if they don't have that discretion, it would have allowed state legislatures to commence with what could be really extreme voting suppression. we have seen a lot of that. this was an important moment to see the justices really reaffirm those basic bedrock constitutional principals of judicial review. justice roberts starts with a case that's a classic judicial
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review case in telling us that, of course, there's a role for the state courts in reviewing what state legislatures do. that's one of the most important checks and balances that we have in our system. >> doug, talk about the politics of this for future redistricting decisions and for the republican party. >> the number one thing i hear when i talk to congressional or senate republicans from north carolina or their offices is not only this decision but what the congressional lines are going to be. i think this decision is a long-term and a short-term thing. the long-term more significant here. in the short-term, this is where alabama and louisiana may be more specific. we have a republican super majority in the house in north carolina. with a republican court, we have in north carolina, and a republican house and senate, most likely we will see not a 7-7 split between republicans and democrats, we will probably see 11-3.
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republicans could gain seats even as a result of this decision. highlights two other things that i point out. one is, north carolina being a good example of this where we have judicial races that are -- whether partisan or not, they will be more important now moving forward in elections. they don't get a lot of attention typically. that's going to change. the other is as we see with this court, danielle said we talked about the end of democracy, the supreme court has been considered since kavanaugh and the dobbs decision as a doomsday machine. that isn't true anymore. this is a decision of 6-3. not bipartisan but certainly liberals and conservatives coming together on it. not what we were told this supreme court would be. >> danielle, finally before we go, the remaining decisions, affirmative action, huge, student loans, big, as well. what do you think is going on? if they don't do something by
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thursday or friday, this is going into july, which has happened before, but unusual. >> it's unusual for it to go into july. but we have big cases left. obviously, the biggest the affirmative action cases that still need to be decided. clearly, there must be a lot of people writing opinions, a lot to agree and disagree on in order to go down to the wire like this. we have thursday and friday as additional opinion days. everyone is watching very closely. this and the lgbtq case about the web master who refused to make websites for gay couples. that's another huge case that will be coming this week. we have a lot ahead. >> we will be looking for all of you coming up as well. thank you laura, danielle, doug. thanks so much. caught on tape. the former president in his own words heard apparently showing off what sounds like secret information after leaving the
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white house. how and what could be damning evidence might impact his federal case and his political future, that's next when "andrea mitchell reports" is back in 60 seconds. stay with us. you are watching msnbc. snbc ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourists taking photos that are analyzed by ai. so researchers can help life underwater flourish. ♪ at pnc bank, so researchers can help life you can find us in big cities and small towns across the us,
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>> this was referred to in the 37 count indictment, but it was not shown in full. the conversation was recorded in july of 2021 at trump's new jersey golf club during a meeting with two staffers, a publisher and a writer, none of whom possessed a security clearance. trump reacted overnight accusing smith of working with the justice department and fbi to, quote, illegally leak the tape which trump says exonerates him. most legal experts say it's the opposite and there's no evidence at all that it came from the prosecution. trump called smith derange and a thug. nbc news reached out to the special counsel's office for comment. we have not received a response. joining me now is justice reporter ryan reilly, former u.s. attorney joyce vance and jonathan lemire and host of "way too early." ryan, any indication how this audio was made public?
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what do you think the impact is? there's a real difference between reading a partial transcript in the indictment as we did and hearing the audio, hearing the papers shuffle. the former president said on fox, i believe, that these were just clippings -- newspaper clippings. but he refers to it as being secret. he is shuffling papers. he refers in this audio to, you know, i found this here and it's very clear what he is talking about and it's not a newspaper clipping. >> we know the special counsel's office pretty much exclusively speaks through their court documents. there are a lot of hands on this audio. this was something probably widely available. when you go in for an interview, there's a press aide who puts a recorder on the table, the party doing the interview. there could be multiple recordings. there's a lot of -- >> the press aide testified. that press aide could have volunteered it. >> exactly. the trump campaign, a major
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theme going on is to try to accuse the special counsel's office of leaking things. that's a theme we have seen. they have been playing it by the book, frustratingly for reporters. there's a wide universe of people who this could have come from. i wouldn't put the justice department at the top. >> hardly. it would be at the bottom. joyce, we have seen the complete transcript. the joking about hillary clinton and anthony wiener. for anyone who dealt with secure documents -- i'm sure you have in some of your cases -- it's chilling to hear secret documents -- apparently secret documents being handled so cavalierly. >> i think that's right, andrea. the audio tells a deeper story than just seeing the words on the printed page. this is powerful evidence. i think this is a smoking gun, frankly, when played for a jury. you hear the former president talking about secret documents,
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documents that were prepared for me by the military. then he says, it's so cool. almost as though he is someone who found himself caught up in the high access that he had as president and couldn't let go of it down the road. this is the sort of evidence that convinces a jury that a defendant had the state of mind the government has to prove in order to get a conviction. >> let me just ask you one follow-up question here, on the legal matter. one of the things he complained about to an audience was, they are accusing me of espionage like a spy, a former president -- i'm paraphrasing here. in fact, they have not accused him of spying or of espionage, as we know it. it's the espionage act, which is to retain documents and not turn them back. which is very clearly the case by his own words here on tape. >> that's absolutely right. look, congress has naming rights. congress is the one that names
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the laws it passes. this is a large act called the espionage act. it encompasses conduct we would traditionally think of as spying. but it also encompasses retention of documents, classified material, national defense information that someone is not entitled to possess. trump was not singled out here. people are charged under this statute routinely, including two former cia directors and people who have been charged within the last year with retention of documents. >> the other thing is that he was not charged with disclosure, even though it's clear he is showing it to people. that's something that they could hold in abeyance. plus, as a break glass, if the florida judge were to dismiss the whole case, this is a count that they could bring in new jersey, perhaps more favorable
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venue. jonathan, let's talk about the context behind this. it shows that trump was really angry at the chairman of the joint chiefs, general mark milley. >> that's right. he and chairman milley clashed a few times while trump was in office. milley has spoken publically about how embarrassed he was to have accompanied trump on that photo op with the bible during the george floyd protests at the church across from the white house back in june of 2020. there had been a report that appeared that we can -- in 2021 in "the new yorker" about iran and this was trump trying to push back on that account and take shots at milley again. in doing so in a way -- it's breathtaking. we knew -- we read the transcript. we knew this tape existed. to hear trump in his own words, speak so cavalierly about classified information. literally, waving a paper around. look, i'm committing a crime right now. yet, certainly, this would be a
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key piece of evidence, one would assume, the special counsel will put forth. to your point, the idea of dissemination could be something -- some have speculated he could charge in new jersey. time will tell if he does. >> ryan, jack smith, the prosecutor, the special counsel, is investigating january 6th and the special electors. he is going to talk to brad raffensperger in georgia. potentially parallel to the state case. >> that's right. we know the grand jury interviewed a number of the fake electors who appeared for testimony in d.c. this is an ongoing, serious investigation that's coming to a critical moment based on who we know went into the courthouse thus far. i think an important thing to remember is that this isn't just about january 6 itself. we shorthanded it as the january 6 investigation.
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but it is more about the peaceful transfer of power and efforts to interfere with this. this is something that prosecutors are looking at closely. it's undetermined whether brad raffensperger will actually have to testify before the grand jury or where that will stand. i think it's a very serious investigation that we could see news coming out within the next coming weeks. >> we know the former president is speaking in new hampshire. you could get more reaction within this hour. to stay with us on all of this. ryan, joyce, jonathan, thanks to all of you. nearly four years after jeffrey epstein was found dead in his cell, a justice department inspector general report today finds a cascade of errors and misconduct by employees of the manhattan jail where he was being held allowing the sex offender to hang himself. the report found no evidence contradicting the official conclusion that epstein was not murdered, that it was suicide, death by suicide. the facility itself, the metropolitan facility in new
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shocking weekend rebellion by the mercenary wagner group challenging his power and his military leaders. putin meeting with military officers and units in moscow after calling kremlin allies to assure them he is firmly in charge. also today, kremlin officials saying they have no information on wagner group leader prigozhin's whereabouts after mark warner told me that he is believed to be in belarus. belarus president lukashenko, a putin ally, claiming today that he convinced prigozhin to stand down during what lukashenko described to be an emotional expletive laden phone call. you can imagine what that sounded like. keir, what have we heard today from vladimir putin? describe it. >> reporter: andrea, just inevitably in russian politics, a whole number of things are happening at once.
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most visibly is what president putin has been saying and what that's about is trying to demonstrate strength to the russian people. his angry address to the nation yesterday where he described this as a criminal act that was going to be bloodshed, his meeting with security officials late into the night where he said the russian state has funded wagner and so in other words, we can choose what we do. then standing in front of the ranks of his security officials today and describing them as heroes of the country, of the nation for preventing this bloodshed from spilling out. take a listen. >> translator: you have managed to stop the mutiny. without your action, it would have been chaos. you have saved our motherland
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from catastrophe. you have actually stopped civil war. >> reporter: at the same time, i think what we are seeing is a degree of flexibility by the kremlin, telling those wagner fighters they can join the russian army or go home to their families or go to belarus. today learning that they are not going to prosecute the members of that militia. then as you mentioned, we are hearing these extraordinary stories of how there were desperate attempts to solve that problem on saturday, particularly from president lukashenko, those two or three phone calls he describes saying he was struggling to get ahold of prigozhin, managed to get ahold of him and those expletive-laden phone calls where he makes this offer for prigozhin to go to belarus. i think that also in itself paints a picture of prigozhin
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was in a corner over the weekend and lashing out. all of that, i think, is a picture of actually a group of russian elites who have known each other a long time where their rivalry exploded, and they are trying to fix it. what we are seeing is papering it over and going back to normal service, if you like, which is president putin in charge. >> it's fascinating. thank you so much. putin -- they are both from saint petersburg. one was the patron of the other. now look at it. glad to have you there. thanks. phone a friend. putin reaching out for support from his allies as ukraine reassesses its counteroffensive, following the russian mutiny over the weekend. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports." more on that coming up on msnbc. . [buzz]
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ukraine's deputy defense minister says the counteroffensive is, quote, gradually but surely making progress toward bakhmut. after the weekend revolt, prigozhin is now in belarus, claiming less than 2% of his troops are being absorbed by the russian military. not clear where the white house -- the white house is not clear where the rest of the forces are or where they're going. let's bring in two russia experts, michael mcfaul and from
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kyiv, former director for european affairs for the u.s. national security council, lieutenant colonel alexander vindman. putin might be remembered as putin the weak. he controls the air. at the same time, they are dug in. they are mining the whole area. there has been slow growing. it's been a slog, a lot of casualties on both sides. >> my piece is about his hold on power inside russia. i go through various things that show why this has weakened him. you are asking the most -- in my opinion, the most important question. does the appearance and the facts of weakness back home
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undermine the morale of russian soldiers occupying ukrainian territory right now? to me, that's the crucial issue. of course, we don't know that. we don't have public opinion polls of those soldiers. if i were one of those soldiers and i was watching the chaos back home, i was watching how my commander said, we are going to be tough against the defectors, against them and let them go to belarus for nothing, i would wonder, why am i fighting? they don't have to listen to me. they have to listen to prigozhin. that's exactly what prigozhin was saying to them a few days ago. i wonder, will that message carry there? i think that would be a crucial blow to their efforts inside ukraine. >> alexander, you are there in kyiv. how are ukrainians viewing the cracks in putin's power? do they see an opportunity now to -- because no matter what happens, the russian military is
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in in disarray. >> i think the events of the last several days are a head scratcher everywhere, including in ukraine. what seems to translate is that putin is weaker today than he was this time a week ago. putin is less sure than he was a week ago. i think that is by -- the wheel he put in motion himself, he started this war that is disastrous for him, for his regime, his legacy. he thought that he had time on his hands. he thought he could just play for another year, maybe through the next election cycle. he had time on his hands. i think what he is coming to the realization about -- you could see that in his multiple statements, a lot at odds with each other, is that time doesn't seem to be on his hands. he put in motion forces that he can't control. this long operating private military company was a threat to other regimes. it was a threat to order around the world.
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now it's a threat to him. he doesn't know next time that this war will spill over into his own corner again. for the picture inside ukraine, what's fascinating is this is going to have an impact on the morale of the troops and their ability to fight. it also should have an impact on the u.s. government. there is no simple solution to this war. there's no minimum amount of equipment that's enough to help ukraine win but not push russia over the edge. they need to provide ukraine with all the equipment they need. there are only hard solutions forward. that's what we should learn from this. >> ambassador mcfaul, we have a nato summit in two weeks, exactly two week fwrz today. zelenskyy will not get what he wants in terms of rapid asession to nato. he is not sure he will go because of that.
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he doesn't have the f-16s. training is still taking place. the decision has been made, but they have not been rapid enough with every stage of how they have ramped up the weapons. now is the time when they need them. >> i think so. you and i have talked about that for a year and a half now. i think there could be another lesson from this fiasco in russia. which is all the things you listed, right, nato membership, f-16s, i could add to the list, atacms, other weapons systems, the administration and other nato allies have been reluctant to do those things because they constantly worry about escalation from putin. we can't do that, he will escalate. we can't do that, he will escalate. we have to give them an off ramp, which sometimes translates as ukrainian territory, otherwise he will fight. look what we learned over the weekend. he was challenged internally
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with a mutiny against his armed forces. this jujitsu, those were putin's folks. he got up and made a very tough speech, just like the old putin. then he capitulated. he didn't escalate. he didn't double down. he didn't use the nuclear option metaphorically. he negotiated. i think that is a very important lesson for all of us to think about. the notion that there's only one way out, to be careful, it might be the opposite. helping ukraine go on the offensive might actually cause putin to begin to negotiate. >> on that point, alexander, colonel vindman, what do you sense is zelenskyy's appetite for negotiations given putin's reluctance to take negotiations
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seriously. >> there's a far right that's captured by donald trump and is catering to donald trump, but support from my sense is pretty much ironclad also in europe. constantly, there's an effort for the faction to raise this idea of negotiation that gets beaten down quickly. i'm sure we will see articles that say the risks are too high. ukraine needs to capitulate. that's not going to happen. there's no appetite for any negotiation, now especially that the ukrainians smell a victory in the near future. what we need to do is as the ambassador said is provide maximum support. there's no -- they no middle ground where we do just enough for ukraine. all we are doing is extending the war. we are not easing the burden on russia, the enormous turmoil that is going to unfold in russia when russia loses.
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that's a forgone conclusion. that was written in the cards as soon as the russians started this campaign in february of 2024. now, can we end this sooner without additional risk, without nuclear disaster, without some sort of erratic faction taking control in russia? we give ukraine all the resources they need. >> alexander vindman, thank you very much. of course, ambassador mcfaul, as always. donald trump and ron desantis vying for republican voters miles apart in new hampshire today. we are expecting the former president's remarks minutes from now. that's next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. mitchell reports" on msnbc
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january 6 issue. how important is new hampshire for the two frontrunners? i think you have some sound of what he had to say, desantis. >> reporter: right. new hampshire is going to be important for anybody coming out of iowa, especially knowing that donald trump won easily eight years ago in the state. while ron desantis may not be in a position to win the state, to remain competitive to go to south carolina is key. the issue is, trump aides have told me over the last weeks that he is owning all of the oxygen in the republican room, around the indictments, around the investigations into him, while there's a great many folks around the country that don't think they are good for him, at the same time it's dominating the conversation within the republican primary. ron desantis tried to turn this on its head earlier down the road. take a listen. >> if this election is about biden's failures and our vision for the future, we are going to win.
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if it's about relitigating things that happened two, three years ago, we're going to lose. so i can tell you this -- [ applause ] >> reporter: the problem for ron desantis is he is looking at polling down significantly not only nationally but here in new hampshire. i was having conversations with a few of the women here before this event began. i asked them about the legal perils that donald trump is facing. one told me, she goes, some people view it as him withstanding tornadoes. she goes donald trump, he is the tornado. ron desantis is trying to make the case to look beyond. there are others cheering tornadoes on. >> for sure. charlie, i want your reaction to a new nbc news poll that shows a growing lead for donald trump, expanding his lead with republican voters, primary voters over desantis.
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he is up by five points since his indictment on the federal case, despite his legal troubles since april. desantis is down by nearly ten points. you can see it's 51/22. that's a big lead. when asked for a second choice, desantis is at the top and tim scott does better. is he climbing up into third place? he might have big advantages in iowa as well. >> the situation has some fluidity. i can't help but think about donald trump's first campaign for president and after he rolled it out in 2015, he was -- i mean, his position is far more dominant than in 2015. he went on to win the nomination. most of the other republican candidates, with the exception of chris christie and asa hutchinson and will hurd, think they will topple donald trump by clinging as closely to him as possible, by not going through him. i think that's naive. i don't know how you do this,
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how you beat somebody without going directly at them. i think that ron desantis has a very interesting troll, the fact he has that sign behind him, restore sanity. not tremendously subtle. he is not willing to go further and say, look, this man is unfit, if you listen to the tape, there's no way we should put him back in the oval office. right now, donald trump is in a dominant position. republicans are engaging in the magical think of thinking something else will take them out and they don't have do it themselves. >> today, charlie, on cnbc today, speaker mccarthy was asked about the impact of donald trump's legal troubles. remember, he went down to mar-a-lago after january 6, after criticizing trump and then swore to him. >> if he has got all these trials and all of this stuff overhanging -- >> it makes it complicated. it also helps him. >> do you think he could win an
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election? >> can he win? he can. >> you think he can? >> is he the strongest? i don't know that answer. >> equivocating on donald trump. we haven't gotten the reaction we may get in this hour, actually, when trump gets on the stage. >> give itminutes. give him five minutes with mccarthy, wait until he gets the phone call from donald trump and see how fast he reverses course. we have a pretty good read on what motivates kevin mccarthy. >> and sabrina, let's talk about the nbc news poll, other data in it, the poll has president biden beating donald trump in the hypothetical matchup by 68% of the voters though are worried about his physical health. what is the white house strategy? i know from talking to them, they're very aware of the age issue. nothing they can do about his age, but how do they present? >> well, i think you're seeing the biden campaign largely focus
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more on his record. and talking about issues that they say matter more to the american public, like the economy and jobs and really trying to tout the legislative accomplishments that they say his administration has delivered, but, of course, they are aware there is a lot of focus on his age and my colleagues at "the wall street journal" reported the entertainment mogul jeffrey katzenberg has joined a group of advisers counseling president biden to embrace his age, to use it as an advantage that shows his experience, to even have a sense of humor about it. we'll see if that's a strategy they take. but the thinking largely is if this is a matchup once again between president biden, former president trump, yes, there is somewhat of a lack of enthusiasm around biden, but they believe that a lot of the legal troubles that are surrounding trump and just a general dissatisfaction or desire to move beyond trump within the electorate is something that will still work in the president's favor.
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>> well, thanks to you, sabrina, and to charlie and vaughn. remember what ronald reagan did in 1984 against walter mondale when the age issue against reagan was very much against him, he said in the debate, i'm not going to take advantage of my opponent's youth and inexperience, drawing a big laugh and going on, of course, to win re-election. and not over yet. the rebellion in russia may be stalled for now, but does that mean vladimir putin can rest easy? we'll talk to richard engel coming up. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. up. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. (alternate voice) denture disaster, darling! we need poligrip before crispy popcorn. (regular voice) let's fix this. (alternate voice) poligrip power hold + seal gives our strongest hold and 5x food seal. if your mouth could talk, it would ask for... poligrip.
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in addition to addressing the public with his second brief speech since the weekend rebellion, vladimir putin has spent the past 48 hours making phone calls to kremlin allies around the world. nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel joins me now. you said it is not entirely clear the unrest is over. what do you think prigozhin or putin could do next? richard, i think we have lost communications with richard. we're going to try to re-establish those quickly because what we're talking about here is vladimir putin, of course, and prigozhin. prigozhin, as we believe, according to mark warner
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yesterday, the chair of the senate intelligence committee, he is in minsk, belarus, in belarus as of yesterday. he has said that his units are disbanding. doesn't know where they're headed. some may be going into the russian military. so far that has not happened. and there are reports that he never had as large a force toward the end of this fight, only had about 8,000 men, not the 25,000 men, but still a significant challenge, significant challenge, of course, to vladimir putin. we'll be following all of this and richard will be reporting throughout the day. we're so sorry we lost our communications with him toward the end of our show. but we want to thank all of you for watching today. all of our coverage on ukraine, on donald trump, the politics. stay tuned for what's happening
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in new hampshire. desantis has concluded and, of course, that will be -- waiting to hear from donald trump. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online, on facebook and on twitter at mitchell reports. "chris jansing reports" starts after these brief messages. ts "chris jansing reports" starts after these brief messages
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good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. it's one thing to read it, it is a whole other thing to hear it. shocking new audiotape of donald trump that laid the groundwork for special counsel jack smith to file charges against the former president. >> except it is, like, highly confidential. >> yeah. >> secret. this is secret information. but look, look at this. >> so how could that play in
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