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hey, everybody, we are following big breaking news this hour. president biden set to speak next hour after the supreme court strikes down his student loan forgiveness plan. a decision with consequences for 43 million americans. we are live at the white house coming up. plus, what today's decision means for the economy long term, as millions of borrowers start making payments again. that means less money for everything else. also healed this hour for us, a frightening arrest near the home of former president barack obama, a january 6th rioter caught with weapons and materials to make explosives. and france and fury, over 40,000 police officers fanned out and hundreds arrested as violent protests continue after a teen was shot dead by officers. our nbc news reporters are following the latest developments, and they are joining us now.

we begin with nbc's monica alba, outside the white house for us. monica, what is president biden's reaction to the court's decision on the student loan program? >> yasmin, he is pledging to fight this, to say that it is not over for the millions of borrowers who were relying on this debt forgiveness plan that now has been blocked by the supreme court. we expect to hear a lot more about the specifics on how any of that is going to work from the president himself around 3:30 p.m., he will address these concerns. he will speak and detail some of these new potential executive actions that his administration can take, and he is framing this as one reaction of severe disappointment, calling it unthinkable, and specifically talking about the fact that had this plan been able to move forward, something like 90% of those who would have been beneficiaries of the relief make

less than $75,000 a year. speaking to the real need here, again, for millions of borrowers who were kind of in limbo when this was held up in the courts last year and to wait to see what kind of a response they were going to get from the supreme court, we knew that the pause on payments was going to end either 60 days after this decision and/or at the end of august, so that's coming down the pike, so there's plenty here to plan for from a financial perspective, and people are just waiting to see what more the white house can do here, but this is just a severe blow, not just to a campaign promise from then candidate joe biden, but really it comes after some losses on other key issues that this white house has been talking about. if you look at the entire context of all of this, i think what he said yesterday is a good preview of what we can expect to hear later today, which is when he was asked by a reporter if this is what's known as a rogue court, he said this is not a normal court. so i think you can expect him to talk about that disappointment and then, again, what he says he

could do here, though, whenever he proposes could face legal challenges once again down the road. >> monica alba for us. thank you. let's talk implications as well, folks, that student loan decision, it could have an effect on all areas of our economy. morgan brennan from cnbc on msnbc. talk us through this, how this ruling might affect everything from spending to travel. >> and it is going to affect everything from spending to travel. retail as well, which is an area that analysts have been writing quite a bit about when it comes to the impact on businesses. it's a key question for the economy because that has been holding up so much better than experts had expected it to up until this point largely because of the resilience of the consumer, and all of that spending. a resumption of student loan payments is likely to slow economic growth, how much, though, that is up for debate. economists that jeffries believes this will have a quote,

significant impact on consumer spending and thus could be a tipping point to push the economy into recession. economists at morgan stanley don't seem to be quite as dire, though, they think it will have a tangible impact but a more modest impact on spending. a little bit of background here. an estimated 45 million student loan borrowers in the u.s. who have not made these monthly student loan repayments in three years due to the pandemic, a total of $1.6 trillion in outstanding student loan debt. the supreme court decision puts half a trillion dollars of that sum back on household balance sheets. you got about 53% of student loan borrowers owing $20,000 or less but this is going to be a very big impact on all of those borrowers on the back half of this year. it depends on what the biden administration does now, but as of right now, those payments are set to resume come october. >> that's a lot of money.

morgan brennan, thank you. >> i want to get to the terrifying security scare near the home of former president barack obama. nbc's ryan reilly is following this story for us. what do we know about this january 6th rioter that was arrested? >> i worked with an line sources in 2021 to identify taylor taranto. what video shows is that taylor was carrying a cane that had sort of a weaponized function on it inside the capitol that day. he was involved or in scuffles with police officers that day. he has identified himself online posting on his wife's facebook account, video showing him inside the capitol, and starting back in 2021, why he hadn't been arrested, said something along the lines of let's get this party started and he was posting things so that people would turn him in. but, you know, almost two years later, he still had not been

arrested. in recent weeks, he's been hanging out by the d.c. jail, and posting on his telegram account and living in a van there, and they said he was bathing in a ymca, so he posted about myself, and he posted about other memes and conspiracy theories, also on truth social, donald trump's social media, i guess, empire, and that's where he actually found, it appears, the address of the obamas because one thing that donald trump had posted was the address of the obamas in a screen shot that he had posted to truth social. so that seems to be how he ended up at the obamas' residence yesterday, and law enforcement officials have said that they found some sort of weapon inside the van. we should find out more about that soon. when we expect these charge for him in connection with january 6th to be brought to fruition. >> and we're just learning now, expected to appear for the first

time in court we'll be watching for that as well. ryan reilly for us, thank you, appreciate that. ahead overseas now to josh lederman following the protest of a police shooting of a 17-year-old during a traffic check. what are authorities expecting tonight? >> yasmin, the protests that we have been seeing in france have only been growing the last several days. police and authorities in france are bracing for the possibility that tonight could be even more significant, more violent than the previous nights. we have seen a shift by president macron's government in the last 12 hours or so, whereas the last several days, they were trying to strike a balance between calling for peace and calm, and also allowing the french public a chance to vent anger and frustration and what they see as bias. the french government sending the clear statement that this has to stop. president macron flying back to

france, convening a meeting of his emergency crisis group with top national security officials, releasing a statement afterwards, calling the protests absolutely unacceptable and unjustifiable. he is pleading with parents to keep their children at home. he's also announcing a number, a very significant amount of steps, shutting down buses and trams from 9:00 p.m. tonight, in multiple parts of the country, a curfew in effect before sun down, cancelling large scale events and gatherings and an interesting move, president macron says he's speaking to social media companies to ask them to remove content that is inciting the riots, and so that is already raising profound questions about free speech in a democracy, but in the meantime, the french police, they are really coming out swinging, making it clear they are not going to tolerate this any longer. the french police union releasing a striking statement called now that's enough, in which the police union says that

faced with these savage hordes, asking for calm is no longer enough, it must be imposed. the union going on to say that the police are in combat because they say we are at war. >> a lot going on there to say the least. josh lederman for us. thank you. all right. back here at home, conservatives across the country reacting to the supreme court's decision on student loans. i'm going to speak with some leading a group that brought one of the lawsuits before the bench in just 60 seconds. we'll be right back. seconds we'lbel right back. ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourists taking photos that are analyzed by ai. so researchers can help life underwater flourish. ♪ to you? so researchers can help life underwater flourish. you get roped in with phone offers, that bind you to a 3-year device contract. break free with t-mobile! introducing go5g plus, the first plan that always gives new and existing customers the same great device deals, and you're upgrade ready in two years versus three.

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plan. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. you call this a great victory for the american people. when you look at polling, half of americans, if not more, support student loan forgiveness. >> well, thanks for having me on, and this is a great victory for all americans because it's a victory for our constitution. this was an egregious example of probably the worst egregious example of executive overreach in the history of this country. the president didn't have the authority to create a program, a $400 billion program under the heroes act, but here's the thing. we agree with the administration and we have said all along, we agree with the administration that there's a crisis. we're talking about $1.7 trillion. we just disagree with his solution. these students are being crushed under crushing debt, but we need to hold the real culprits responsible, and that's these unaccountable colleges and universities that are sitting on

$700 billion in endowments all the while increasing tuition at twice the rate of inflation on these students. if this program had gone through, this would have been a blank check to these colleges to continue increasing tuition at unsustainable rates. they need to be held accountable. >> average tuition, 30,000 plus dollars, had this gone through, it would have excused those with a pell grant, thousand thousand dollars in student debt, and others $10,000 in relief. i want you for a moment to take a listen to a woman in chicago, and here's what she said about this ruling. >> i think it's a real shame. >> reporter: why? >> because i think it's something that's desperately needed, that congress won't act on, and so i think biden has no choice but to act. >> desperately needed, and you know the argument that the biden administration was making, we're looking at three years of a pandemic in which many people were unable to pay basic bills.

let alone student loans, resumption of payments on student loans, trillions of dollars need to be paid out by americans who did not necessarily expect to do so. what is your message to a woman like we just heard from there, in chicago. >> senate republicans have introduced multiple pieces of legislation just last week that goes to address the real issue here. the underlying problems are these colleges and universities and you have to address that. otherwise you're simply dealing with one group of people right now. if we don't deal with the underlying problems of these colleges and universities and unsustainable tuition, you and i are going to be sitting here five years from now, and the problem is going to be bigger and tuition higher. why doesn't the president call up republicans and ask them to sit down and talk about how we solve this problem. why don't we see congressional,

bipartisan congressional hearings where we haul these college presidents into congress, much like we did with the banking, heads of bank during the financial crisis and auto companies. this is $1.7 trillion it is a crisis. >> some would argue, why not split it up, right? if you're looking at a $37,000 average student loan, you get $10,000 excused by the student loan forgiveness program, if i'm doing my math right, you've got about $27,000 left. then you appeal to your lawmaker, you appeal to your congressman to go after your colleges and universities. i don't think there's a single person out there that disagrees with that about these endowments, especially at these private universities, right? >> yasmin, sorry, go ahead. >> no, please go ahead. >> congress has to address this.

it doesn't change -- regardless of how much empathy and sympathy i feel for these borrowers, it doesn't change the fact that we have a separation of powers. the president and nancy pelosi both admitted that they don't have authority of executive power. the power of the purse lies with congress, and we have to protect our constitution all the time, even when we feel bad for the people who need help, and this doesn't solve the problem because there are millions of people who five years from now are going to have college debt that are going to need help too. if we solve the problem now, then we won't have to deal with the problem five years from now. >> certain seems like the president is committed to finding out a solution to the problem. >> not if he doesn't work with senate republicans. we're going to wait and see what he has to say today and possible conversations across the aisle. elaine parker, thank you.

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welcome back, we are continuing to follow those major decisions from the supreme court, including a ruling today that could have major implications for the lgbtq plus community. the court ruling 6-3 in favor of a christian web designer who does not want to make wedding

wines for same-sex couples, despite colorado's antidiscrimination law. neil gorsuch wrote the majority opinion, saying it quote, tolerance, not coercion is our nation's answer. the first amendment envisions the united states as a rich and complex place where all persons are free to think as they wish and not as the government demands. i want to bring in marissa parra who spoke with the web designer, and vice president of the human rights campaign. sarah warbelow. i want to start with you on this one. give me your reaction, the last day of pride month today on the most recent supreme court decision. >> this decision is incredibly disappointing but not surprising given that we have a supreme court who has demonstrated willingness to overturn precedent on a fairly routine basis at this point. >> marissa, you spoke with lori

smith, the colorado graphic designer in this case, what did she tell you? >> yeah, well, so we had a chance to speak with her first, as soon as that decision came down, and she said in part, simply put, that she and her team are thrilled that everyone should have the right to free speech, and i'll kind of explain some of what they were saying, the logic behind that when we were talking to both lori smith and her attorneys. she says that web design is a form of alternative, and how she expresses herself is through web design, and because she does not believe in the validity of same-sex marriage, even though she had not yet done a wedding web design yet, she said that it was just the possibility of it that she was afraid of because that is not something she believes in. her attorney made it a point to say today that the court made a distinction between those creating expressive content, free speech, that has been something that we have heard over and over again today, particularly with that majority opinion by neil gorsuch that you

just brought up. she talked about lori smith who's at the center of all of this, how for seven years she's been wanting to design wedding web sites and how she's not been able to do that. that's going to be the first thing she starts working on now that the decision has come down, and so in short, i would say a summary of my conversation with her, she says that this is a win for both free speech and the first amendment. >> from day one, all i wanted is to speak consistent with my beliefs, and i want that for everyone. i want that for the lgbt web site designer, the democrat speech writer, the jewish calligrapher, the pro-life photographer, everyone should be free to speak consistent with who they are and what they believe. and i'm grateful for the court for affirming that the government can't force anyone to say something they don't believe. today is a victory for each and every one of us. >> i'll add on the other end of this, we have had a chance to speak to a number of people

today, and get a number of reactions. one of them being from the lgbtq community, there's a number of people who have told me they feel like this is coming at a time where they're already under attack, and i would say that in response that lori smith said she does not discriminate against the community. she has clients within the community. she simply doesn't want to do wedding web designs, and that's part of her right to free expression, she says. >> this is a conflation of individual speech and commercial speech. when businesses are open to general public, they ought to be open to everybody on the terms and basis. now, look, she is free to create whatever type of web site that she wants, just like a cake baker can decide whether they want daisies as part of their offering on a cake or not. but once you're offering goods and services to the general public, you ought to be offering them to everybody on the same conditions. >> i want to read for you,

sarah, part of justice sotomayor's dissent here. she writes this, battling discrimination is like battling the hydra, when you defeat one form of discrimination another springs up. time and again, businesses and entities have claimed constitutional rights to discriminate and time and again the court has stood up to the claims. today the court shrinks. what type of precedent, sarah, does this decision set? what are you most worried about? >> look, this is a marked departure from where the supreme court has been previously. this decision is also narrow. the court is finding here that the web site designer has a right for free speech because she is offering original customized goods that are tailored for a particular individual.

it is not opening the door to widespread discrimination with this particular case. that being said, we know that there are organizations and individuals who are hell bent on ensuring the lgbtq people are not able to operate in the public square, and they will continue to bring litigation to try to expand this ruling. >> sarah warbelow, thank you, marissa parra, thank you as well. will the supreme court decision be a galvanizing factor in 2024? the new reaction we're hearing from presidential candidates next. you are watching msnbc. we'll be right back. u yoare watching msnbc we'll be right back. (bobby) my store and my design business? we're exploding. but my old internet, was not letting me run the show. so, we switched to verizon business internet. they have business grade internet, nationwide.

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>> with a conservative majority, though, locked in for the short-term, at least, can supreme court issues still be a galvanizing factor in 2024 for both the voters and for the candidates as well. i want to bring in nbc's ali vitali who's on capitol hill for us, and stewart steven, senior adviser to the lincoln project and former chief strategist for mitt romney's presidential campaign. start things off for us, if you will. give us a sense of what more we're hearing from 2024 hopefuls. >> reporter: look, last week, i spent time at a conservative gathering of evangelicals in the after math of supreme court rulings, we heard praise of the supreme court there, and we're hearing it again as 2024 republican hopefuls gather in philadelphia for another conservative cattle call, and the responses sound similar to what you heard from nikki haley. senator tim scott, and ron desantis, first, watch tim

scott. >> joe biden wants you to pay off the student loans of lawyers and professors. i want to strengthen vocational education and apprenticeships, college isn't the only path to the american dream, and it's time for a president who values hard work and the people who do it. >> reporter: not only is senator scott responding to this latest supreme court ruling, but he's also up on the air waves with it in places like iowa. we know that he placed a multiple dollar ad buy already, he's one of the few candidates who can get up on the airways and from now until the iowa caucuses and keep hammering a message. he's taking advantage of having the financial advantage, and then of course there's what governor ron desantis said, using this as a moment, not just to praise the supreme court but also to go after donald trump from the right. referencing an old "meet the press" interview that trump did with chuck todd that trump seemed to say he was okay with affirmative action, desantis spotlighting that as an example

of the way that desantis is trying to effectively run to the right of the former president. we're seeing that not just on issues like the one you see on your screen, desantis reminding that trump said he's fine with it, when asked about affirmative action. but then also trying to run to the right of him on issues like abortion, like parents' rights in schools, all of those key red meat issues for the base, and it's why i think even as you reference the fact that the court may be static and we say may because you just never know with these kinds of things. even if the court is static, there's so much that can galvanize both right wing voters who have seen the fruits of those labors already over the last two years, and democrats see this as something they want to hammer with their voters as well. >> let's get into this a little bit. it is fascinating stuff. you have the real calls for educational reform in the republican party, amongst 2024 hopefuls, we saw at this event happening today, moms for liberty, and you see kind of

governor desantis, yes, running to the right of the former president of the united states, but also in a way, by showing how he saw affirmative action in 2015, himself as quote, the real deal conservative. do you think this is something that could work for him? >> it's a very interesting strategy. i don't think you're going to win a race by running to the right of donald trump. you're certainly not going to win a general election. but if i could just say something, you know, the reference to the evangelical group that was made, that was a white evangelical group, and we sometimes lose sight of the fact that african-american evangelicals which are high numbers, are overwhelmingly opposed to trump and to desantis, and continually vote democratic. i think it's important that we not lump all evangelicals together. what's happening here is that a lot of these cultural issues are

really having more intensity with the democrats now than republicans. if you look at the dobbs decision, 60% of the people oppose it. it used to be the intensity was on the anti-abortion side. now the intensity is on the abortion rights side. the same on the gun issue, overwhelmingly the intensity on this is with gun issues, and you're going to see this on student loans. the intensify for those who want student loan forgiveness are going to be other voters, and those voters have really become a base for joe biden, and without them, he wouldn't have won in '20, without them he couldn't win in '24. >> i talked about this in the last hour, voting for the courts has never been a major issue for democrats it seems up until now. it kind of speaks to what you're talking about because now there's a conservative majority,

right, in the supreme court. i'm wondering, though, right because this has been such a galvanizing issue for republican voters for so long, now that they have quote unquote, what they wanted, right, will it be galvanizing issue in the next election, and will it only be a galvanizing issue for the former president. can ron desantis run on the supreme court, right, can nikki haley, despite the fact that she stood up there and said god bless the supreme court or thank god for the supreme court, can she actually reason on that? it was donald trump who appointed all of those justices that are making these changes. >> yeah, yeah it was. but i think you have to look at what's happening in the aftermath of these decisions. so for all of these decades, right, they said all we want to do is overturn roe v. wade so states can make decisions. how long did it take after roe v. wade was overturned for republicans to introduce national legislation on abortion. and that's what this group like moms for liberty are doing.

they say they're going to put more control with parents, but they want national control. they don't want local control. what is going to happen in their school, they don't want the parents of the school to decide. so a lot of this is being fought out legislatively now. and i think it's point to go this sort of basic hypocrisy in the republican party that they say that they're against big government but very much for big government when it supports the issues and the ideology that they support. >> stewart stevens, thank you, ali vitali, i think we need one of those drinks off your shirt at the end of this week. as always, my friend, thank you for that. all right, everybody, another legal setback for donald trump after a federal judge rejected his claim of presidential immunity in the defamation lawsuit brought by writer e. jean carroll. the judge ruled that trump's quote personal attacks in carroll in 2019 had no connection to his duties as president setting the stage for

a second trial, which is scheduled to begin in january. you'll remember that the first trial ended last month with a federal jury finding trump liable for sexual assault and defamation, related to carroll's claims that he attacked her in a department store dressing room. trump is appealing that verdict now. all right. americans scramble to go get their holiday destinations with 51 million expected to travel this weekend. that's a heck of a lot of people. after a week of delays and cancellations, can airlines make it up to customers. we're live as one of the nation's busiest airports coming up next. up first, though, sad news to report today, academy award winning actor alan arkin has died. his three sons confirming the passing saying in part this, our father was a uniquely talented force of nature, both as an artist and a man, he was adored and will be deeply missed.

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weather and airline logistics as well. united airlines ceo blames the faa. nbc's george solis is reporting from newark international airport, also joined by nick yuen, director of content at the sports bet. >> reporter: a lot of blame to go around. a lot of people playing the blame game. people want accountability. they want refunds, they want some kind of help with all of their struggles. as you mentioned, so many flights delayed and cancelled. united taking the brunt of that blame from a lot of frustrated travelers, specifically here at newark and in denver, which is seeing a significant number of delays. for people, this isn't just about vacation days lost. many of them are losing out on work. many have parking fees, many telling me, you know what, we can't get rental cars. you know what we're going to have to do, we're going to have to rent u-hauls to drive across state lines, and that's in cases

of domestic travel. a lot of international travelers telling me they can't book a flight to get back home either. you can see where the frustration is coming from. a couple of travelers said this is the peak of their summer travel, they will never fly again. that is how dramatic and serious this is for travelers to just say this has been the worst they've seen it, talking about seasoned travelers. they say they have never seen it like this. take a listen. >> i have been traveling all many i life. i know it can happen, but, you know, when we go here last night, the first flight was sunday night, i can give you one night. hold on a minute. the disruption created be i you is going to cost me money. >> reporter: it's not just united of course. the airline says they have seen meaningful improvements. still, though, there's still a backlog. other airlines offering delays and cancellations.

the faa and department of transportation kind of highlighting the fact that overall, though, the cancellation and delay rate has been steadily declining. obviously that's very little comfort for people who have been stuck here for days, hours, and still trying to figure out how they're going to get home. again, this is just the peak for fourth of july. many wondering if it's going to look this way the entire summer. >> it's literally one of the worst things to have to deal with when you're traveling, delays upon delays, no explanation from the airlines, no compensation, booking, and getting on a phone call with them and waiting for -- you have seven hours and 30 minutes hold until your next representative can help you. right? i spoke to secretary buttigieg before the memorial day holiday, and i asked him about how confident travelers can feel ahead of the holiday season, and he pointed to this web site, especially flightrights.gov, which tells us our rights as travelers. the faa pointing to that as well.

the thing is it's not adding up. right? a lot of travelers saying that's not what's happening, this is not how they're being compensated. i want to hear from travelers, a woman in boston, and then we'll talk. >> i'm now on stand by to 50, if not, i had to stay here three nights. >> three extra night you've been stuck here? have they given you help, put you up in a hotel? >> $15 vouchers. >> reporter: $15 vouchers? >> yes. we called hotels 20 miles out. every single one is booked. >> i think there's a disconnect. what's happening? >> i think the big issue, and it's really related to just the broader system is that there's so little flex right now. kwhuf a combination of weather and staffing issues and air traffic control issues, it

creates these kind of catastrophic or potential for catastrophic situations, and i really encourage travelers to really advocate for themselves. if they find themselves stuck for overnight or multiple nights to continue to utilize that web site, show it to the agent, let them know they are not living up to their end of the bargain. one of the other things to do is after the fact, make sure you investigate what credit cards you use to book your flights because you may wind up being covered, if you are delayed overnight, you have those unexpected expenses. if you use the right credit card to book the ticket, you pay be able to submit a claim and get reimbursed for added expenses. it's clear that airlines have a lot to do. the faa has a lot to do, and this is why a lot of people are clamoring for a formal passenger billion of rights. obviously that's something that takes extended time, but hopefully something will come and provide relief going forward. >> i got to challenge you on that, nick, because it's pretty hard to get the attention of a customer service agent who's

dealing with thousands upon thousands of customers by showing them the rights that you have on flightrights.gov. they don't care in that moment. what is in your estimation, the best way to get the attention of the airlines in the midst of this situation, a woman delayed for three nights with a $15 voucher and you probably can't get anybody on the phone. >> there are a couple of things i would recommend. first and foremost, be proactive, have the airline's app downloaded on your phone. oftentimes you can know before a formal announcement is made that a flight has been delayed or cancelled and you can grab the seats or change plans if there is availability, rather than having to stand in a long line and wait to speak to an agent. if you are flying with an airline, go to one of the airline lounges and see if they have a day pass that can get you

in. there are agents in the lounges that can offer quicker support, proactive support. that's another option. finally, try reaching out directly on social media through direct message on twitter or a lot of airlines do allow you to text these days. i know there's a backlog. airlines are doing their best to work through it and it's critical that you pull out the stops, if you're traveling with a party of 4, maybe you have one person stand in line, one person get on the phone, one person try texting, one person go to the lounge. divide and conquer to try it pull out the stops to get to where you need to be. >> that's a lot of work. so frustrating, they were ready for the season, and obviously they were not with the weather. george solis, thank you, nick, thank you as well. new fascinating fbi findings about the suspected chinese spy balloon that flew over the u.s. earlier this year. we are at the pentagon coming up next. at the pentagon coming up next

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earlier this year, ramping up tensions between the world's top two economies, the balloon used commercially available off the shelf technology that was american-made, according to three u.s. officials familiar with the fbi's investigation. nbc news pentagon correspondent, courtney kube is covering the story for us, and joining us now, court, it's always good to talk to you. what can you tell us about the tech on this balloon and what kind of intelligence it was able to actually gather. >> reporter: as you sai this was commercially available, something that could have been both online by the chinese government or chinese military, whomever it was that put together this balloon and flew it over toward the united states. so this was not sensitive technology that china was using here. that being said, you remember a couple of weeks ago, president biden said there were two box cars full of surveillance equipment on this enormous balloon. what we know now, according to these preliminary results from this investigation is that there

was sensitive chinese surveillance equipment on that in addition to this u.s. off the shelf technology, and what we have also learned in just the past 24 hours or so is that, in fact, the u.s. suspected that there was off the shelf american technology on the balloon from early on, when they first sent those surveillance aircraft up to look at the balloon and got the first pictures of it in those early hours, they suspected based on what they saw in the pictures that there may have been some american off the shelf technology included there, yas. >> quickly here, do we know how far along they are in these probes. i know it's the fbi and multiple intelligence agencies here investigating. >> we don't. we have been asking that question. some officials think they are towards the end or even done with it. the critical question, will the american public or the media find anything out about those investigations. i'm not getting a whole lot of sense that we're going to to get a lot of information based on the balloon, based on these findings. we'll keep asking. >> courtney kube, as always, we are appreciative of you, have a

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