people dead, and dozens injured. we're waiting a news conference updating us all on the situation. we're gonna have it live for you. the fallout from three major supreme court decisions playing out on the sunday show. as both guys react rulings on affirmative action, student loans, and an lgbtq rights. >> this far-right extremist and balanced supreme court which seeks to make history for all the wrong reasons. this is if they were a caucus in congress they would be the boot strap or, -- don't say gay caucus. they have all but eliminated and he boots or straps to social and economic mobility. >> the democrats are upset because things didn't go their way. but the people. one >> these are the types of rulings that second on a dangerous creep towards authoritarianism, and sexualization a power in the. court >> i believe in the freedom of religion, freedom of conscious of every american.

in this case the supreme court drew a clear line and said yes to religious liberty. >> and that donald trump south carolina rally this weekend wasn't the former president getting all the attention. we'll tell you about a republican stalwart which was booed off the stage. we'll have more on that. and anyone about lamar's italy officials are instructed to give us an update on the mass shooting overnight in baltimore. two people were killed. 28 more were hurt. nbc's marissa perez there in baltimore were also joined by former fbi supervisor rob d'amico. marissa wiley standby here for this update. please bring us up to speed to what we know so far? >> yes, where things stand at last check, we're waiting for an update any minute now. these details could be subject to change hopefully we'll learn more soon. but here is what we know right now. at least 30 victims, to people, that they were adults but they were young. an 18 year old, a 20 year old, and among the injuries we had a

28 were injured. and several in critical condition as of this morning. still waiting more details but let's talk about what we know unfolded last night. we understand this happen around 12:30 in baltimore as brooklyn neighborhood, it's south of the downtown inner harbor, south baltimore. and we understand this was during a neighborhood block party. and you'll see some of these images on your screen. you'll see scattered debris, cops, signs of what was clearly a joyous celebration before the sound of gunshots. and really disturbing -- so many people reported hearing what they thought were fireworks. and only finding out later that they were gunshots. and fleeing for their lives leaving everything behind as you can see on the streets here. baltimore's mayor brandon scott has been in office since 2020 pleading with anyone who knows anything to come forward. as of last check there was no suspects who have been publicly identified. again, the press conference hopefully might give us more details. but we do not know anything

beyond that as of right now. but also the mayor taking a moment to stress the need for stricter gun laws he says in both the local region and on the national scale. let's take a listen. >> this brings an highlights not just for baltimore but for our country. the need to deal with the flow of illegal guns into our community. it's especially from neighborhoods outside of there. we will continue to be focused on that here in baltimore. but our country needs to be focused on it as well. >> so lindsay was a long ago i had a chance to speak with a family member of someone who was among the victims were shot. a 16 year old shot twice in her back. that 16-year-old according to the family member was discharged. but we're still waiting to find the status of so many of the victims. we know 12 were taken right here at the university of maryland medical center shocked rahmat. we know for patients for technique to the pediatric departments. so, lindsey although there is a lot we do not know yet, we can

assume among those injured there were several minors. >> all right, as we wait to hear from police, rob, what are you gonna be listening for? >> i'm gonna be listening for if they're coming out with things. if they're still asking for people to give information that could be a clue that they don't have a suspect. yeah not that they're not going to ask but i think how much they're asking and what they're putting out to the public may indicate. that there's probably a lot of police sources that are reporting on this. but they need to get the evidence to actually do an arrest warrant. they may have a suspect that they know a. but getting those suspects and then getting evidence to get arrest warrants is a little bit different. you need to start getting into the technical side of things, cell phone coverage, who may be present and those things that their suspect. >> julie but or the belief that they may have an idea who

could've been involved in this, rob, if they don't have any idea what would you be telling them to do right now? >> i think with that many witnesses in those communities it was an event that they have every year. communities it could've been a random thing but i don't think so. i think it was something a bit different. i think with all the witnesses someone's gonna understand who it was. or on the other side as people do it and they talk that word gets out in the police have tons of sources out there. i think as the mayor said he's good with his community. he's saying, hey, look put this in your shoes if it was your child, your son, your daughter, your friend. and get people to start reporting. because that's what they. meet a lot of people they know that aren't saying anything. and something like this gets them from what the mayor says gets a call. and >> what about federal involvement here and how federal and local authorities work on something like this,

rob? >> the shooting -- the federal agencies are all there to help. so, atf, fbi are all going to be putting things out there. even the locals have got better technical things, southland coverage that used to doing, you're gonna see that the federal side need the lighting assistance on the lab, it could also be that the assistants, the fbi has victims assistance that they can get up to baltimore to help the local victim assistant folks. the federal people are just there to help. baltimore homicide are great folks. i don't think they're gonna need help in the investigation but again the federal people will be there to take information and put it in a larger database and see what we can come up. why >> marissa, what is the -- calling people's fears at this point with a shooter or shooters still on the lam? >> there's been some very, very

i would say a harsh words from the mayor for anyone who knows anything or may have been involved in this. he said anyone who knows something should come forward. but stressing to the public that we will get to the bottom of this. you can see how he's trying to reassure the public who has no doubt feeling many emotions. there's a lot of drama that comes of this in a lot of fear. he has side and put out the information for what is now communities under that will be a place for the local agencies are trying to pull together resources among many things that they're trying to address also. and giving people a place to go to in case they need help with addressing the trauma of. this, again when you have at least 30 different victims and many of them probably largely from this neighborhood. it's gonna have a significant emotional and mental impact. with -- a physical impact here as well. >> marissa power, out rob d'amico, you'll stay with us as we wait that news conference. we'll bring you that live when it begins. we do want to turn now to

kansas were seven people have been shot, two others trampled overnight at a nightclub in wichita. according to police no one died. the victims range in age from 21 to 34 years old. one person is in custody and investigation is still underway. the biden surgeons laying out its plans for alternative forms of student loan debt relief after the plan to forgive more than 400 billion dollars and dad was struck down by the supreme court. white house correspondent monica alba has more. what we heard from the education secretary today, monica? >> lindsey for weeks the white house thought that maybe the law would be on their side when it came to the presidents student loan forgiveness program. once it was blocked from the supreme court they actually revealed that they've been preparing for that worst-case scenario, and identifying some contingency plans and that is why now the president has asked his education department to pursue a new regulation to create it from scratch essentially. we do not know who would qualify now and around much.

that's how they think they'll be able to still provide some debt relief to 43 million americans potentially that's how many are affected and hanging in the balance throughout all of this. while they go down that path there are some additional steps the administration is taking. we heard about those in detail from the education some retiree, mike alqam donna, on msnbc earlier this afternoon. >> we're providing to other things, and on rumble were calling an on ramp wall interests will accrue and payments are due we're not gonna be harming those who are struggling to make payments for the first of eight months we're calling it an on ramp we're not gonna be giving information to credit reporting agencies. we want to make sure preventing people from defaulting into delinquency. and we're creating an on ramp again. we're also ruling out our save income driven repayment program. >> the education secretary was also asked whether there is any chance that that payment pause

had taken place during the entirety of the pandemic. it could be extended once again and he said no the payments are set to resume in the fall, that's why they're trying to offer -- and it's always been talking about in the context of several decisions from the supreme court at the end of the term. expressing severe disappointment and pledging to continue to fight for some of the rights have been ruled back and continuing to pursue some of his executive authority here to see what can be. dan but overall he has said that he believes in his words that this is not a normal court. >> all right, monica alba, thank. you coming up in 60 seconds we hit the campaign trail, and find out what trump surrogate got booted in his own state. this as candidates make the sunday shows play. >> i think we can with a price presidential elections and understand that national polls just don't matter right now. >> there may have been a time when affirmative action was

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trump rally not because the candidate one of his allies in south carolina got booed by the crowd, political contributor and analyst matthew dowd is here to look at the state of the race. let's start with vaughn hillyard who is there. ivan, what happened? >> senator lindsey graham and donald trump have had the odd romantic relationship in the last day. ears it's had its ups, it's had its. downs yesterday was the latest chapter. let's just take a look at what happened when lindsey graham the latest endorser of donald trump took the stage in his own state of south carolina. >> welcome to -- thank you for coming. thank you very much. thank you.

thank you. thank you all for coming. thank you very much. thank you, thank you. thanks a bunch. well? well, you want to find something in common? >> what was that last thing he? said >> you want to find something. uncommon he was gonna make a statement saying i like donald trump and one man yelled, well we don't like you. for lindsey graham after january six 2020 lonnie went to the senate floor and said enough is enough. he was sad to see his relationship with donald trump and that. way lucas back up on the stage try to get back into donald trump's good graces. the front runner for the gop nomination. >> you shot video to. want to put that up? >> thank you all for coming. but -- [crowd chanting]

[bleep] >> this has been a perilous eight years for so many republicans. like pants, obviously try to take donald trump had on, others that aren't running for president like lindsey graham realize that donald trump could very well be the next president of the united states. and as you see from his voting constituency that they do not forget what he's -- in the past here. and nikki haley, tim scott, when they got a mention by donald trump there was no cheering or applause, and it's fascinating to watch the stronghold that donald trump has on the party. here and for lindsey graham it's an acknowledgment that the republican base is so far from where even he is. marjorie taylor greene was one of those pre-events speakers last night. she mentioned her support for cutting up funding to ukraine. to which the crowd gave a thunderous applause. lindsey graham has renamed one

of those fierce foreign policy hawks within a shrinking part of the republican party. somebody that that crowd feels is out of step with the republican party for donald trump, when he mentioned lindsey graham and running again. he said whoa, whoa he's been good he's endorsed up, >> -- it's been so, matthew, what this is a to hear about the loyalty that trump's followers expect for him? does something like that have a chilling effect in terms of other republicans speaking out against trump? >> it's definitely had a chilling effect over the course of seven years, as less unless republicans speak out against him. the ones that do lose like liz cheney and adam kinzinger, lose in the primaries and decide not to run. this is a full trump political party now. it's interesting that not long ago in 2016, when lindsey graham ran against donald trump, lindsey graham said if we nominate donald trump, it would be the end of the republican

party. the funny thing is, he was right. it's the end of the party as he knew. this is donald trump's political party and says more about what the party has become and what is fundamentally about donald trump. if you want to give the republican nomination, you have to either get complete support of donald trump or get out of his way. >> trump is leading his other republican primary rivals. he is trailing and one category, campaign travel. he's been have to the cities that rhonda scent this has been to. does he need to stomp on the trail? he does not really need to introduce to voters who he is or who he stands for. >> you know what, the fascinating thing for me is that trump is basically the incumbent. his popularity among republicans is high, it's as if he has the high -- even though he lost the office seat. voters see him as the incumbent in the race. when you look at the numbers,

it shows how little the travel is impacting the race. ron desantis has traveled much more and spent much more money than donald trump. he's actually lost support over that period of time. i actually think donald trump can run the old front porch strategy in this race. the only question of vulnerability he might have is in a place like iowa, where there is an expectation of that. as of today, the last poll i saw in iowa, donald trump's 25 points ahead in iowa. he is not the one that has to do any catching up. so far, the campaign's day run, nikki haley, ron desantis have gone nowhere. >> all right, thank you both for your time. still ahead, a live report from paris, on the latest days-long protests of the police shooting death of 18 driver. ath of 18 driver i do a lot of hiking and kayaking. i needed something to help me gain clarity. so i was in the pharmacy and i saw a display of prevagen

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repercussions of the rebellion in russia will play off for some time, according to new comments from cia director william burns. burns also said that the unrest creates a once in a generation opportunity to recruit spies, and opportunity he said his agency is not letting go to waste. so far, the kremlin has done everything in his power to downplay the violence and attempted revolt, with the foreign minister calling it minor trouble. joining us now is mike -- former intelligence service office at the cia and msnbc contributor.

mark, help me understand your role. why is now a rape opportunity to recruit spies. >> i think my old boss, mr. burns, is right, whenever the u.s. embassy overseas, asking for russians to come in, because there are problems inside russia. it's turned into a pariah state. it's a country rife with corruption, and now it looks like putin has problems under his own roof. if you are a russian official, and you're looking at the future, what does that mean for you and your family? the notion that they perhaps might reach out to the united states is not something that would be surprising, and i am sure my old colleagues are busy these days. >> marc, i am so sorry, i will have to interrupt you. we are going to a live press conference in baltimore about the mass shooting overnight. this is a live stream at the event. >> i want to reiterate what i said this morning that this was

a reckless, coward act the violence that has taken two lives and altered many, many more. as i said earlier, we will find those who are responsible and will not stop until we do so. again, this tragedy is a another deep violence in this country and particular gun violence, and the access to guns. this year alone -- [inaudible] because it's so easy for them to get. we will continue to hold those individuals who use those weapons in acts of fallen sick this one accountable. we will seek accountability at every level, from those selling and trafficking the weapons into baltimore from outside of our state to the companies that

manufacture the guns and disturbed gun laws in our country. and we also need community responsibility as well. we had to be better for us, as baltimore. we need to say when we know it, especially young people because we have a responsibility to ourselves about what's going on, and a government agency has to us. we ask that anyone that knows anything about this mass shooting, that's what i will call this, a mass shooting, we want everyone to come forward and say, treat this as if it is your daughter, your son, your brother, your cousin that was out here and got shot at this event. we must come together as baltimore and wrap our arms around the community and each other. again, as i said earlier, we have to be better for ourselves. i will quickly now turn it over to --

director stephanie -- >> thank you, mister mayor. i am here to say that my office stands in solidarity with the community in the aftermath of this horrific event. as of 12 pm today, the -- we will be having a presence focused on healing was this is for you to support the presence here. the number of agencies that i want to say thank you to being here including the partners that have expressed their willingness to step in and play a role. i want to give a special shout out to the red cross, to the residents that were affected in the immediate area. we are also putting a priority in the immediate hours after the incident with mental health clinicians and response. we want to make sure that we are able to help the healing process for this community, as -- well have a presence in the community to partner with ronny

city agencies the over the next 45 days. we'll have -- we appreciate the partnership from everyone so far in the community and look for to being. >> just to reiterate what the mayor said, i think we look at a federal, state and local partnership, i want to thank all those involved, working around the clock. what we understand is that this indiscriminate, callous -- extends the trauma to hundreds, particularly, our vulnerable adults in the community, our children. -- for those who have been impacted, those who have information, come forward. don't just rely on the baltimore police department and our partners to solve the crime. these are events about celebration and coming together

and should be sacred to our communities. when if you decide to go and generally create a mass shooting, it's completely unacceptable, and i ask folks in our community to step up, whether it's your son, sons friend, neighbors, folks know online. please ensure that you do the right there, particularly for the victims who lost their lives in the family, whoever is impacted by this particular event. >> thank you, mister mayor, mr. commissioner, mrs. president, first and foremost, i want to say to the families, i am sorry. we should never, ever have to face something like this. this is a societal problem that we are doing with, a mass shooting. where disagreement turns into 28 people shot. this is insanity.

it cannot be the society that we are expected to live in. we have to do better. we've done all we could at the state level to try to find ways for it to be harder to get guns into people's hands, but this is the problem with too many guns. it's not okay, something has to give. this is not how i anticipated the sunday. for the 28 families directly impacted, i am so sorry. to the hundreds that witnessed it and who will forever be changed, i am sorry. and to the thousands and thousands who marylanders who on this day would have to think about the mass shooting that occurred here in baltimore, something as to give. i stand here as a representative of the state saying that the state is in partnership and conversation with the governor to provide the resources necessary so that no committee asked to deal with what we're dealing with here today. >> thank you, everyone, for

being here. i am angry that i am sending my son back on holiday weekend. baltimore has always and forever been and of elected community. this is not the time to forget this now. it's the time to come together and stand in solidarity with them and provide the necessary resources for the local, state and federal level. i will not stop fighting for my community, and i will not stop now. >> we are going to start with questions. i will call on folks. we'll start with our local media, baltimore sun. >> yeah, i am wondering how many victims under the age of 18 or hurt. >> what was the question? >> how many victims under 18 or her? >> we think is around 14. we are still confirming ages of everyone. >> i am also told that there was no police presence on this day i'm like last year, i

wonder if you could respond to that? >> sure, that is what we were trying to investigate. this was an unpermitted event. our job now is to figure out why this was occurring. if we made mistakes, will fix them and move forward and make sure they don't happen again. >> yes, we heard from residents that it seemed like the crime scene was not secured, people walking in and out of the crime scene after it occurred, and even folks that saw city officials came in to sweep the crime scene and then investigators came and put that evidence about this. >> this was a huge crime season, talking about multiple blocks. we had crime scene tape. we did still have people walking to. we stop people from walking through, but we have people live in the area that we had allow them to get their houses, so we had officers escort them to their homes. we also did, as we do with every crime, won't we get some

daylight, our canine can't look at more shell cases. we are to put more crime taped up. still, when you go over to the scene now, federal partners are still looking for evidence, and we will continue to look for evidence until we found a need to prosecute. >> go next to wbal. >> do you have an idea of a suspect, or do you think that there could be more than? one >> we knew for sure there are more than one, we don't know how many, but we know there is more than 1% shooting. >> wjz? >> i have a question about -- can you tell me about the injured? we had two that, 28 injured, are they all collective gunshot wounds, tell me about the conditions of the victims. >> what we do, we decipher whether it's a gunshot or somebody who is injured. the all 30 other victims were

confirmed gunshot wounds, so where the deceased. all but nine have been released from area hospitals, so we still have nine in area hospitals. >> my queis, there have been many video circulating online about a kid pulling a gun out of a bag. do you know if this might be a potential suspect, or is there any way that we can confirm or deny? >> i've seen the video. i want that as a gun is a natural suspect, so they are looking for any kind of video. if anyone has any cameras, any other video that you can see the help us, please send it to us. >> on that now, when we talk about this incident, those videos you selves -- when did it become okay for adults to film kids having weapons and no one says anything.

we have to be better. this was a multi generational event. yet all folks, folks appellate like myself. we have to have a better -- we should not see a grown man filming some young person with a gun and not say something. too afraid to say something. -- not after posting a video to get likes and is the gram. >> can you talk about your partners, we see atf and all the partnership out there, of report and is it for them to work with you guys? >> it is extremely important. if you don't see them here, they are here. regardless if you see them, they are helping us constantly with the investigation. i talk about the fbi, atf, state marshals, state attorney called me. everyone, the u.s. attorney called me, just about everyone,

call to support whenever we need it. we are walking with multiple agencies to try to figure out -- [inaudible] >> all right, everybody, it looks like we lost that live stream, but there was news that we want to make that to get to. -- former fbi supervisor rob d'amico joining us as well. first, marissa, let's get to that news. we still had a number of people killed overnight at this mass shooting to. we had 28 injured, all but nine have been released from the hospital, nine in critical condition. 14 of the victims were under the age of 18. marissa, now the police believe there was more than one shooter. what else did at the but the press conference? >> obviously, a lot of us were hoping that you would get details about what exactly

they're looking for, but i think what you heard was a plea for information because they said it themselves, they have no hard leads. they just know that there was more than one suspect, and they are asking, pleading anyone, with not just information but any video. if you look on social media, there are a number of video circulating on mine in the hours since the mass shooting, and they said that they are aware of the videos. many of them have been reported to them. they say, keep it coming, whether it's on your ring doorbell camera, whether he took it on social, on your own phone, they want to see anything and everything you have because, so far, no one is in custody. that update was not an update on somebody in custody but rather a plea for more information and more help. and also, a recap on where things stand with those victims, for those just joining us, again, we know 30 victims. and what we did confirm, lindsey, was that there was a lot of questions on the extent

of those injuries. they said that they can confirm all 30 of those victims were gunshot victims. so we talk about 30 different people shot. we don't know the extent of all the injuries, but we're learning again, like you said, the extent of how young some of the victims were. 14 victims under the age of 18. we know the two people that died, they were adults but were young. 18 years old, 20 years old. the mayor had strong words. he's been reiterating the words all morning, all afternoon and said, again, just now, and the press conference, quote, we will not rest until the people responsible are held accountable. you also heard more details on the community center, the community resources that are being brought to dignified. this is the brooklyn neighborhood and south baltimore, and we know this is already a hard hit area, hit even harder with 30 victims in one spot at this one neighborhood party that was supposed to be a block party, a joyous festival. obviously one that turned not

only deadly but chaotic and scary for everyone else involved. they said they would bring community healing resources for this community who is devastated right now, lindsey. >> rob, i want to bring you in. your reaction to the police confirming that they're looking for more than one shooter and the fact that one we discussed a shower, there are so many witnesses, they had to have some leads. they're saying today that they don't. >> yeah, so, the one thing that did come out the governor's office, they said -- they may be, unless he misspoke, some people have talked about a dispute that turned into gunfire. i still think they are looking for evidence, they may have names or suspect and not have any quote to write an arrest warrant. it may be that they are hearing some things, but they need some video. the boston bombing was where video really came into play, changed how law enforcement took in video because when we

first ask for the boston barman, it overwhelmed our systems, so now we're starting to understand how to get some phone cameras all into the system and then to start looking for it. if they had names, then thicken up for, hey, this is a piece of evidence at the scene that can go into an arrest warrant. just because they know or hear things, does not mean they can have an arrest warrant. they may have an idea and start hearing some things, but they are not looking for harder avoidance. >> we did hear somebody at the press conference say that there was a disagreement that tended to all the shots. wait wait for confirmation about what exactly is meant by the. rob, before we let you guys go, there were questions about the crime scene and letting people, anecdotally, they were hearing people that they allowed people to walk in and out of the crime scene, with the police commissioner saying that this was a huge scene. people had to get back home. any potential issues that you see from some of the back and

forth that we heard? >> so anytime the crime scene is like that, it can bring things up, but eyewitnesses, evidence, guns that have the same casings and all of that, you condensed are arguing about how a showcasing was found. it is a huge crime scene, so they do the best they can overnight. they'll try to get folks out there, but hard evidence, to really convince someone, it has to be locked down tight. it's just tough. i think one part that went over was an unpermitted event. now, there started to look at went to please find out but event because if you had police around this permitted event, you would have a certain police presence, that might have made a difference. i think they'll start looking into the. the crime scene is to lock down that big. again, people start figuring out that the crime scene is

further than we thought to begin with, and they start finding shell casings that something might have happened after. >> and we did, when we lost access to the live stream, police did say that they did not know whether the shooting was targeted, or whether it was indiscriminate. when you think about 14 people who were shot were under the age of 18, it's unfathomable. how do the investigations that those two different types of shootings, how does that change things? we don't know if it was targeted or indiscriminate. >> so, the big thing is if you're talking about a dispute, who is around that heard the dispute who can say that those are the same people that came back and shot. a targeted one, you start looking for suspects, and then he will start looking for evidence to say it was targeted. cell phone, text, maybe people talking that we will go over and get them at this time. so, i think the scene itself will start --

it could have been a targeted dispute, where they had an ongoing beef with somebody that started an argument that then turned into a shooting, so i think it is going to be a combination of witnesses talking about what they saw when it first happened and then based on the, they'll have to start going back into get some technical stuff. the people start talking about it on tax or whatsapp or whatever they're using, and then they tell people about. criminals always and up talking about things, and others start listening and pushing that out. the case is, again, there needs to be investigations. it is going to take some time. it will not come out overnight. on something like one person saw, but everyone will have a different take on what happened. >> thanks to both of you, we'll be right back. be right back. by providing blankets for comfort and warmth

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they have not put forth the vast majority of their forces for the counter offensive. the enemy gets a bow, the russians are well dug in, they're entrenched, and then the ukrainians are still trying to get the manpower and sources ready for this, so i think these timelines that everyone talks about, i feel in many ways that they're artificial. we want to see ukraine make some gains, it just may take some time. again, we're talking about months if not a year of still some serious fighting ahead. i would just say that i really hope that not only ukraine but also the west does not get wobbly. now is the time to push more to the ukrainians, including these attack missiles, but given time, i am not concerned about any kind of slow offensive in the making. look at there. >> what do you make for the argument that putin's leadership in russia is actually better for world stability than someone taking

over? especially given russia's largest nuclear arsenal. >> yeah, that is a tough one. i think it started with the thomas friedman article and dinnertime to a couple days ago. it's always this notion of the devil we know is better than the devil that we don't. i think we have to remember, vladimir putin is an awful individual. the russian military under putin's command has killed thousands of ukrainian civilians, institutionalized torture and rape. putin is indicted by the international criminal court trying to get ukrainian children. that's not to say that he's not also done things such as offensive cyber operations, election interference, this is globally. remember, he put bounties on our troops in afghanistan. it's an awful individual, and in some sense, i find that motion 11 says that, perhaps, it could be worse under someone else. it's only intellectually lazy in the sense of what does that mean? should we stop supporting ukraine?

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on recession. christopher at the ap writes that the warnings have been sounded for more than a year. a recession is going to hit the united states. if not this quarter, then by next quarter or the quarter at that, or maybe next year. so is a recession still inside? let's ask kaitlan silver, investigative reporter. good to see, caleb. it also points out that consumers are still spending. employers are hiring, gas prices are down, so were these recession warnings wrong? >> maybe, but if you keep predicting a recession, one will eventually come. we know that. the economy is stronger and more resilient than a lot of people expected. -- about 1.4%. then consumers continue to spend even though credit card there is a record high, and we do have this for coming ent loa. those will have the resume in september and october, about 250 per month that 40 million borrowers have not had to pay

back over the last few years. we'll see what happens there. so far, consumer spending and the economy holding up despite words of a recession. >> the fed did signal potentially to more rounds of interest rate hikes to come to bring inflation down. do you still anticipate that, and what would that mean for the economy and the average american? >> there is a another fed meeting coming up in about 22 days, not like i am counting or anything like that. the fed is counting to race about 4% again because they want to hold that inflation number closer to 2%. we just got the personal expenditure index, the feds personal measure of inflation, it's lowered for the first time in two years. inflation is still a problem, but it's moving down slowly. we'll probably get one more rate hike in july and then september. >> the feds own economists have a new report, warning, essentially, we'll put a picture here, a historic surge in the percentage of distrust american companies could worsen the fallout that the feds

inflation battle. that is more than a third of companies that the four in the coming months thanks to tightening monetary policy. what does that mean? >> that means that the cost of money continues to increase, as the fed raise interest rates, they borrow more money, company borrow more money to hire workers to expand. we've already seen a record number of default in the first half of the ear because companies cannot deal with the higher interest rates, just like consumers. expect to put more pressure on companies that are vulnerable from an economic perspective. that could mean more layoffs, could trigger a recession, but consumers continue to spend, and consumer spending is 70% of our gdp. let's see how long we hold out as consumers. >> assuming things that don't go in the wrong direction, is the sea economy that president biden can run on in 2024. >> it's not that strong, it's not that way week either, but i would not be an honor to heavily, because a lot of us feel like we're heading into a recession. in the last few years, even though we had slate wage

increases, persistent inflation has put pressure on a lot of americans along different classes. i don't know how long that still will be to sit on to run on. >> okay, caleb silver, thank you so much, enjoy the rest of your weekend. a lot of people will go to great lengths to protect your pets, some even risking your lives. that was the case on friday in maine, when a 64-year-old woman punched a black bear, like the one you see here. it was chasing her dog, prompting the bear to paper. officials say the woman was treated for puncture wounds on her wrist, but the bear has been seen since. officials say they are trying to set traps to try to capture it alive. that wraps it up for this hour, everybody. thank you for spending some of your holiday weekend with us. i am linsey in for yasmin vossoughian. i will be back tomorrow at two pm eastern. yasmin vossoughian we'll be back next saturday at two pm eastern. and symone starts right now. tarts right now.