tv Lindsey Reiser Reports MSNBC July 4, 2023 10:00am-11:00am PDT
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we have a lot more to cover on this second hour of msnbc reports. i'm lindsey reiser. we got an update from police on that mass shooting that left five dead and two children suffering gunshot wounds in philadelphia. investigators now say they have two suspects in custody. we'll have the latest. and israel, a significant escalation, israel's military presses on with its biggest incursion into the occupied west bank in some 20 years. seven people were injured in a car ramming and stabbing attack
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in tel aviv. we'll break down the latest round of violence from jerusalem. plus, how democrats are hammering republicans on abortion rights ahead of the 2024 election. even in senate races where a candidate has yet to declare. we begin this hour with the extreme weather threatening the nation from coast to coast. joining me now is meteorologist michelle grossman and nbc's guad venegas. we just learned the famous nathan hot dog men's eating contest has been delayed due to lightning in new york. walk us through the extreme weather we're seeing nationwide. >> i don't know how they prepare for that. they have to do it all over again. we're looking at the chance for scattered storms throughout the day and lightning with the storms as we're seeing. we expect in new york city for that to decrease as we get past the 7:00, 8:00 hour. let's look at what we expect for the whole country today. we have the chance for steamy spots, stormy spots, showers as
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well. we're looking at green on this map. that's indicating where we do expect the chance for showers. so it is a lot of us. we're expecting it from the northern plains to the upper midwest, parts of new england and the northeast. we're seeing some really heavy rain through new england. right now, also looking at the chance for isolated storms throughout the gulf coast states, the southeast. we're dry throughout the southwest, but really warm and that warmth extends up to the pacific northwest, we're looking at triple digits in some spots. it feels like 120 in some spots. radar showing us unfortunately on this july 4th, we have lightning, a lot of rain across the area, especially the eastern half of the nation. just scattered storms. we have a cold front that is draped over the area. we have a lot of warm air in place and that's triggering these storms. so, even seeing some heavier downpours, that's where you see the brighter colors, reds, oranges, yellows and looking at a lot of lightning. a lot of electricity with the storms as well. this will be the case as we go throughout the first part of today into the evening hours and
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we expect some improvement in spots later on this evening. first, 14 million people at risk for really strong storms. winds gusting over 16 miles per hour. that could bring down some trees, power outages, power lines leading to power outages. some hail, few chances for tornadoes as well. the likely spots for the storms anywhere from minneapolis down to kobe, denver, colorado, dodge city. it brings you that orange shading, the yellow shading, those are the likely spots we're seeing strong storms. strong thunderstorms along the gulf coast states. we're seeing that now. where you see the green, departs to the south central states, that's where we're expecting the chance for some thunderstorms and heavy downpours. that could lead to flash flooding, some spots up to two inches. we'll end it here too. 31 million people are impacted by dangerous heat. we're looking at temperatures into the triple digits near 120 in some spots back to you.
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>> that's hot. michelle, thank you so much. have a wonderful fourth. to guad on miami beach. looks like a beautiful day. how are things looking? >> reporter: it is a beautiful day. it is hotter than usual here. the temperature is in the upper 80s, 90s. the heat index, feels like 100. that sand behind me, looks beautiful, it is so hot that people are walking on it with shoes. you cannot walk in that barefoot because it burns. so south florida with the famous beaches, it is a top destination for this fourth of july. according to hopper.com, miami beach is the number one beach destination in the country for july 4th because of hotel bookings and airplane flights, airplane bookings. the miami airport authority says they plan to serve about a million passengers throughout the entire weekend. we had large crowds all around south florida. all of florida, the beaches are very popular for tourists that
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come to the state that, by the way, has the most beaches out of any state in the continental united states. so authorities here telling people to keep in mind it is always important to follow the basic rules, but people sometimes forget to drink water, stay hydrated, wear sunscreen. and also get some shade throughout the day if you plan to be on the water, those things are all important because the heat definitely can sneak up on people. one more thing, lindsey, we have so many tourists, not just here, but other parts of the country, visiting the beach, it is important to pay attention to rip currents. rip currents are actually the most dangerous thing about going to the beach. it is recommended for anyone that plans to go in the ocean, especially tourists visiting and not too familiar with the water to make sure they do it near a lifeguard and to also check for any signs that may identify the possibility of rip currents being in that area. >> good advice. hope you and your crew can find shade or dip your toes in the
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water. thank you. to some deadly gun violence outside of fort worth, texas, overnight. three people are dead. dozens are injured after two separate shootings. one out of fourth of july party with hundreds of attendees. priscilla thompson joins us. what do we know about the shootings and any potential suspects? >> reporter: no potential suspects at this moment. 9 police say they are still investigating, but what we know is this is an annual block party that occurs in the como neighborhood, on the west side of fort worth. and last night just before midnight these -- this gunfire erupted as you mentioned, 11 victims, three people who were killed and eight others who were injured. we know that at least one of those victims is a juvenile. police say that when they got there, they encountered a very chaotic scene, talking about hundreds if not thousands of people who were at this block party and they said there were cars everywhere, people on foot
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everywhere. they pulled up into a parking lot where they found several of those shooting victims. but it was so chaotic and also such a large crime scene of a couple of blocks that ambulances weren't even able to get in and they shared one incident where a police officer found a victim and had to put that victim inside their police vehicle and get them to an ambulance in order to try to get them some help. eight people remain hospitalized. no word on the extent of those injuries. the big question here is who did this, was this one shooter, was this multiple shooters and what was the motive? no answers on either of those questions or the question of what type of weapon was used. what police are urging is anyone who may have information or may have video from the events that happened just before the shooting or during the shooting to please share that information with police as they continue to investigate this and i should also point out, just a few hours before this in fort worth, there was another shooting at a
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private residence where there were four people injured as a result of gun violence and we do know they have -- they have a suspect in that case and the gang unit is investigating according to police. lindsey? >> priscilla thompson, thank you. now to an update on the mass shooting in baltimore early sunday morning. investigators now say they're looking for at least two shooters who used as many as three weapons killing two and injuring 28 others at a fourth of july block party. police say they're working to find who is responsible, but also concerned about possible retaliation. >> we are concerned. we're always concerned about retaliation at every single incident. we do multiple meetings to share information where we think retaliation is coming. >> baltimore police detectives are continuing to interview victims for more information on this tragic shooting. president biden is now weighing in on the latest round of gun violence saying in a statement, jill and i grieve for those who
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have lost their lives and as our nation celebrates independence day, we pray for the day when our communities will be free from gun violence. now to the latest on the mass shooting in philadelphia that killed five people and injured several children. two gunmen are in custody, but a motive is still under investigation. nbc's rehema ellis has been following this story. what do we know? >> reporter: we know one of the gunmen, the primary person, a 40-year-old plan, not yet been identified by authorities. but police say yesterday last night that person apparently was armed with an ar-style 15 rifle, handgun and another gun and began shooting in this neighborhood. authorities say they were able to arrest this person while 9 the shooting was going on. they approached the person, spoke verbal commands to him. the person apparently surrendered to police without police having to fire any weapon whatsoever. they thought they had four people dead, then several others
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later, lindsey, they found another man was dead in his living room. all and all, again, police say that there was a second person who picked up a gun and was firing it at the shooter. they have arrested that person as well. so what we know is that seven people were shot, five of them are killed, all men between the ages of 20 and 59. and in addition, two others were injured, two children between the ages of 2 and 13. the big question authorities are have now is why did this happen, what is the motive? you can imagine the investigation is still ongoing. we're hoping to hear something from police soon. lindsey? >> rehema ellis, thank you. still ahead, a terrifying attack in tel aviv. a driver slams into pedestrians and gets out of the car with a knife and keeps attacking. we'll get a live report from israel when we return in 60 seconds. when we return in 60 seconds. (vo) this is sadie, she's on verizon. and she's got the new myplan, so she gets exactly what she wants
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we're following developments from israel where eight people were injured in tel aviv when a man drove into a crowd and then went on a stabbing rampage. hamas is hailing the attack as heroic revenge for israel's sweeping military operations against militants in the occupied west bank. matt bradley is reporting from jenin, our first live report from that area today. also with us, admiral james stavridis at nato and msnbc's chief international affairs analyst. matt, what is the situation there in jenin right now? >> reporter: well, the situation as you can see behind me, a lot of destruction. this is a densely populated area of this city. it is not just jenin the city. a refugee camp within jenin being attacked by the israelis. the largest israeli incursion in the west bank in the past 20 years, ever since the second intefadeh in the early part of the -- what i've been seeing here, young palestinian men, the
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ones behind me here, throwing rock, molotov cocktails and live ammunition. they have small arms. and they're shooting against israeli armored vehicles and if you can listen for a second, lindsey, you might just be able to hear the drones swirling around overhead and these drones have been monitoring the situation and firing on people in this camp. that is the first time starting yesterday that we started to see the israelis firing missiles in the west bank. we have seen that before in the gaza strip, but not here in the west bank. so, again, that thing you saw today, that attack, by a young palestinian man, a 20-year-old, he came from around here, close to where i am in the west bank, he attacked in tel aviv as you mentioned, hamas praised and took credit for that attack, which injured a couple of israelis about eight of them now so far. this attack was a reprisal for this enormous operation that has been going on here. i got to tell you this
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operation, it shows just how serious this new right wing government of benjamin netanyahu is about taking care of militant sy in the west bank, not just in the gaza strip. we could see as we did in tel aviv more reprisals, an extension of this tit for tat back and forth fighting between the israelis and palestinians that is flaring up in so grandly now. that's what makes this so incredibly threatening for everybody involved. lindsey? >> matt bradley, thank you so much. you and your crew, stay safe. admiral stavridis, what is your reaction to that report? >> we got to commend our reporters, richard engel, matt, many of them in ukraine who go forward, put on a bulletproof vest, helmet, to tell us the truth, to tell us what is happening. i really commend our folks who walk in the path of danger. in terms of the situation, yeah, this is the biggest flare-up we have seen in about $20 year.
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when i was commander of nato, my u.s. responsibilities included all u.s. israeli military relationships. so i spent much time in the state of israel, worked with their military. threes going on here, lindsey, that are driving this at this minute. number one, the new elements in the israeli overall government, much more right wing, that's creating tension and flare-ups as more settlements are built. number two, the breakdown of the palestinian authority. typically, it has been weak, but now it is almost dysfunctional. that allows greater latitude in the west bank. thirdly, the long hot summer, the building tensions, this is a very dangerous time in israel. >> how concerned are you this is going to start drawing into other palestinian militant groups? >> i'm very concerned, lindsey.
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and, by the way, it will not only be those kind of palestinian groups, but a sure you iran, hezbollah, which itself is a terrorist organization, a creature of the iran, syria, all of them will be circling around. they'll look at how they can enhance these tensions because it puts more pressure on.netanyahu government and israel has its own domestic tensions that are being driven at this moment as well. >> admiral, to russia now. vladimir putin appeared at a virtual conference of asian leaders today telling china, india and others the russian people are consolidated like never before. what is your assessment of his hold on power back home and the impact that the armed revolt had on russia's few close relationships at this point. >> let's start with a simple fact. when we quote vladimir putin, we
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are quoting a well known practiced and frequent liar. this is a, quote, leader, unquote, who told us repeatedly in the run-up to the invasion of ukraine that, oh, it was only military exercises. we have no intention of actually invading. oh, russia is not committing any war crimes despite the fact they're unbelievably well documented. russia is not attack civilians, yet we see that evidence day after day. point one, putin is a liar. when he says everything is swell back home in moscow, you can add that to the tower of lies we heard from this guy. second point, the rest of the world is getting more and more skeptical. here in the west, we have long since lost any shred of belief in what comes out of putin's mouth when he lies like this to president xi, to modi of india,
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to the rest of the global south. it undermines the credibility of russia. you can feel that starting to crack. that will be part of the calculus in ukraine. >> before we let you go, ukrainian president zelenskyy says until crimea is back in ukrainian control, the war is not over. do you think it is possible ukraine could reclaim crimea? >> i think almost anything is possible. but the likely course of events here ultimately is going to depend on ukrainian fighting ability. we'll know more in a couple of months when we see how they do as the counteroffensive really lights up. my guess is actually conquering crimea and bringing it back into full ukrainian control is going to be a very tall order. >> admiral james stavridis, thank you for joining us. how a tough new immigration law is spiking concerns about the future of florida's economy and the undocumented workers who
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florida governor ron desantis has been targeting undocumented immigrants in his bid for presidency, including transporting them to other states. his crackdown is also creating a labor shortage in florida's agriculture and construction sectors. nbc's gabe gutierrez has more. >> reporter: the new immigration law that took effect july 1st
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has prompted protests in florida. >> we are people too. we are all people. we are not illegal. >> reporter: the state's republican governor ron desantis signed the bill in may, just weeks before he announced his run for president. >> it is easier to come to this country illegally than it is legally. >> reporter: the law bans local governments from issuing i.d. cards to people who cannot prove citizenship, it requires hospitals that accept medicaid funds to ask about a patient's citizenship status, and it also increases penalties for people who hire or transport undocumented immigrants. and it sxabd sexpands the use o e-verify, that employers can use to check an worker's status. governor, wouldn't you do what you could to protect your family? >> once biden became president, he said come, so they're coming. in that sense, you know, i do have sympathy for the
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predicament they found themselves in because i think they have been sold a bill of goods. on the other hand, we have to have a rule of law in this country. >> reporter: south of miami, in these agricultural fields, yvette cruz with the farm workers association of america says some migrant workers have already left the state. there would be people who support governor desantis would say that's a good thing. >> they would say that. i would say, i tell them, okay, let's wait and see who's going to do the work that no one else is doing. >> reporter: we spoke with a woman who said she's undocumented and asked us not to show her face because she thinks the new law might make it easier for her to be deported. you're going to stay? why? she tells me she plans to stay for now, because this is her home. but that she and other immigrants like her now live in fear. gabe gutierrez, nbc news, homestead, florida. >> joining me is maria theresa kumar, an msnbc contributor.
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thank you for being with us. you have hospitals who accept medicaid asking about immigration status. a lot of people probably don't know but they can decline to answer the question. that's one of the facets here. what are your concerns about this new law? >> i think you hit the nail on the head. this creates a public health concern. imagine if you have someone who has covid and because they're afraid to come forward, they don't get the attention they need and they become a spreader. i say this not lightly out of a pandemic, but what ron desantis is trying to do, instead of coming up with the solution to the immigrants who have on average been here for over 20 years and are part of our community, he's trying to find an expedient way to run for office by scapegoating those who provide us with the very food on our table. i would encourage him to have conversations and come up with a platform of what does having the 11 million undocumented people come forward and how do you integrate them into our community, into our society.
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they're already essential to what we need. if you see what is happening in florida, you have not only agricultural workers fleeing, but also construction workers and construction sites come to a stand still because they recognize there are other states that will welcome their labor and will respect the dignity of work. today is still the fourth of july. we're recognizing all of the people who have contributed to our nation, including those undocumented immigrants. what patriotism is not scapegoating the most marginalized, most vulnerable, it is finding solutions to make sure the marginalized classes are protected and can come out of the shadows. >> a florida construction worker speaking to "the wall street journal" says he lost about half his crew. they went to indiana where jobs there paying more and they won't have to look over their shoulders. what is the economic cost to these policys? >> potentially billions. if you saw what georgia tried to do the exact same thing, six, seven years ago.
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they decided they were going to ban undocumented workers and the agricultural industry in georgia lost close to $2 billion of vegetables that were not being able to be picked. we're talking potentially in a place like florida when someone -- you're saying they're not welcoming undocumented, many people will hear they're not welcoming anybody who is not -- who is not quote, unquote american. for a state like florida, it is not only going to have repercussions for the undocumented labor, but potentially for the tourist industry as it is hurt worldwide, if you're a foreigner, you're not welcome here. >> we know washington has failed to change immigration laws in a substantive way. what does the desantis policy tell us about the kind of changes to the laws he might look for if elected to president? >> we learned the desantis policies back in 1993 when pete
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wilson passed very similar documentation, creating the very first show me your papers laws. what happened in california is that it politicized a young group of americans that were latino and asian and decided they were going to make sure their families came out of the shadows, became citizens and registered and voted. and up to that point, california was a swing state. it became solidly blue because yuck people decided that their family was not going to be scapegoated by politicians. that's what he's trying to do in florida and could be the best thing for the country in some ways, but the biden administration needs to come up with a solution along with congress. we're approaching ten years of the gang of eight where they decided they would provide some sort of relief, not just for daca recipients and farm workers and you have individuals now living almost ten years in limbo without a solution, and they pay billions of dollars to our economy every single year.
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our country would not have been able to meet the needs of not just providing food but making sure our economy is still roar ing. they are the ones at the end of the day that were true patriots at a time when our country needed it the most. >> thank you. we now know that police are going to be giving us a press conference at about 3:00 p.m. eastern, which we will carry on msnbc. the latest details from the shooting two men in custody, five people killed in this, with several children injured. this will be at 3:00 p.m. eastern. we will show it to you live on msnbc and update on that shooting in philadelphia. still ahead, is it the issue that could reshape the senate in 2024? how democrats are using the battle over abortion rights to drum up support for their campaigns. r abortion rights to drum up support for their campaigns. (vo) if you have graves' disease,
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we wanted to update you on a quintessential fourth of july activity here in new york city. we know the men's hot dog eating contest at coney island has been postponed due to weather. no word on when it will be able to go off. but we have been talking the last 90 minutes or so about extreme weather throughout the country. severe storms as well in this area. we'll keep an eye on that. senate democrats facing tough re-election contests in
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2024, hope to re-create the voter enthusiasm fueled by liberal frustration over the supreme court's decision overturning roe v. wade. the early strategy for democratic incumbents is simple, talk abortion rights early and often, and try to put your likely general election opponents on defense. but while politicians plot strategy for 2024, americans across the country are struggling with the reality of the dobbs decision. healthcare providers try their best to help women in need. >> good morning! good morning! good morning! happy tuesday. >> i am dr. shelly, an obstetrician gynecologist and specialist in maternal field medicine. i have just over 40 patients on my schedule. we see patients from out of state every single day. this part of the country, a lot of the surrounding states there are complete or near complete
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abortion bans. georgia has a six-week ban. we see many patients from georgia. >> i made a four-hour drive. my choice was heard. there was someone there to listen and understand what i was going through. i could feel the weight just lifting off my shoulders. and i literally drove down here with my kids in the car. >> called mifepristone. this is the pill that stops the pregnancy from developing. about 60% of women and patients seeking an abortion already have a child and relief is a predominant feeling that they have. they're not ready to be pregnant or they have to prioritize their health or another child's health and it is a very simple decision. >> it is the choice that necessarily nobody wants to make, but it is something that we have to do to deepen our future, and what we feel is right by us. because it is still our bodies. >> we're in a true public health
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emergency. it is very sad. it is devastating. i provide the care that i can to the best ability that i can. i advocate for my patients in every way i see possible and from an emotional toll, it is more just i'm very, very sad for the women of this country, the patients of this country, for what has happened to what should be such a basic and fundamental right for 51% of our population. >> joining me now, ali vitali. maria teresa kumar is with us and brandon buck. ali, starting with the politics here, the senate map is brutal for democrats in 2024. why is that? and what is behind the strategy of speak abortion rights early and often? >> reporter: it is a brutal map because you look at some of the places where they're playing defense on seats. there is such a slim majority in
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the senate. playing defense is the key to protecting that. you're looking at states like montana, west virginia, all of these are places that tilt red and it is going to be incumbent on the people who are incumbents there to be able to maintain those seats. but abortion becomes a big issue when you look at states like arizona, nevada, wisconsin, all of those are things that the head of the democratic senate campaign arm gary peters told me this is going to be a central issue at play there, in part because of the enthusiasm that we watched democrats be able to leverage in the first election post roe. for those of us covering politics, for republicans it has been a promise of toppling roe. now post roe, we're testing those theories in real time. what democrats are seeing on the ground in states like wisconsin is for republicans, it is not an issue that now that they have gotten to the point where they were promising they wanted to get, it is not an issue that is an easy sell for them.
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it is out of step with what polling would tell us is the mainstream view in american politics, which is the majority of americans wanting abortion to be safe or legal in most cases. when you look at the polling, there is the question of intensity. stories like this one, i've spoken to providers who said very similar things to me. spoken to patients who weren't engaged on this issue until they realized abortion meant their healthcare and that electrified them. the more those stories are shared, especially in this post roe environment, the more this issue continues to gain steam. that's the way democratic operatives tell me they're planning on keeping the focus here. as we watch states and conservative states continue to take steps, where they're restricting abortion, it only gives democrats more of an excuse to talk about and spotlight this. >> maria teresa, do you see the repercussions to dobbs as galvanizing to voters in 2024?
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>> so, after three years of pandemic, you think i would figure out the mute button. sorry about that. in all seriousness, i think once the stories start coming out that ali mentioned, they're devastating. you hear tragedies of 13, 14-year-old girls who have to go to a different state because they have been raped and they are not able to actually have abortions and that is one of the things i think that when we saw the lack of red wave during the midterm election, it wasn't just the progressive wing of the democratic party, but it was fathers, independent moderate fathers who says i want to make sure my daughter is protected and has the exact same rights my wife had and the people around me. it is going to be something that is incredibly politically charged, especially because even the ones that are on top of the ticket, let alone the senatorial candidates, but the top of the ticket republicans all of them have very strict and severe abortion bans. take desantis, in the dead of
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night, signed a six-week ban. that's right of the right of most of his party. you see opportunities in nevada and arizona and someone like ted cruz, so antiabortion, but who has a population of close to 800,000 youth who have turned 18 since the last presidential, who are absolutely charged because this is not something about religion. it is about economic freedom and agency that they say so seriously. i think that it is not just -- the democrats are absolutely going to run on abortion, but it is because it is a fundamental freedom of who has access to it and who doesn't because sadly, affluent women will always have access to abortion. it is the poor women that won't. and people recognize that becomes a barrier to self-fulfilling and have agency over their bodies and over their future. >> tom tiffany told nbc's adam edelman, we can do a better job of saying here's why we're pro life. it is forward-looking, done in a positive manner. given the polling that ali was
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talking to us about, how would that work and do you agree with that as a strategy? >> i think the republicans need to come up with a better explanation for what exactly their position is. that's the problem right now. it was very simple for many years, republicans just said they wanted roe to be gone. that was one answer on that issue and it wasn't very real. it is much more real and complicated right now. and the reality is republicans are still figuring out that position and they're doing it in public view. it is an ugly process. and until republicans figure out a position and one that is politically viable, democrats are going to keep using it against them. republicans said for a long time that they think there should be reasonable limitations on abortion. at some point it should not be legal. that's backed up by a lot of polling. the problem is republican party now is being defined instead by a lot of states, whether having six week bans or outright bans,
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that doesn't look reasonable. hard to come up with a middle ground position when states are acting like this. it is an enthusiasm issue for democrats. they'll continue to use it until republicans figure out why they land and find a place that works nationally. >> how big will the culture wars be in 2024, with candidates like governor desantis leaning in so heavily early in his campaign? >> i think republicans would love it to be about culture and that's what the whole party is built around right now. that's where republican enthusiasm is. all of the issues, schools and you name it, all kinds of issues, that's what fires up republicans right now. and election is always about enthusiasm. joe biden right now has an enthusiasm problem. a lot of democratic voters are not excited about him. that's where the issue like abortion can help him. a lot of policy issues gets dicey for them. that's why you see ron desantis doing things that seemingly
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wouldn't be very good politics like the reason ad he put out on lgbtq rights. that was shocking, stunning, but that's the kind of thing that gets republican base voters fired up and he needs that kind of thing to make a bunch of enemies that motivate republican voters. >> thank you so much. still ahead, hotels scrambling in california after thousands of workers walk off the job in the middle of a busy holiday week. what kicked off a major strike next. what kicked off a mar jostrike next lactaid is 100% real milk, just without the lactose. delicious too. just ask my old friend, kevin. nothing like enjoying a cold one while watching the game. who's winning? no idea. real milk. real delicious. and don't forget to try some delicious, creamy lactaid ice cream. what's that mabel? (mooo) wow,
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help you save. thousands of hotel service workers have walked off the job in southern california. and what their union is call the largest strike in the history of the u.s. hospitality industry. the strike, timed for one of the busiest tourist holidays of the year, was called after the contract between the unite here local 11 union and more than 60 major hotels expired at midnight friday. the union is demanding better pay and benefits for its 15,000g benefits for its members highlighting the high cost of housing in the los angeles area. what impact is this having? it looks like you're marching with them. >> reporter: hey, happy fourth of july from los angeles. as you can hear, there's hundreds of hotel workers out on strike. the third day in a row.
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they say they're fighting for their freedom to fight to be an american, too. marching from the second largest hotel now walking to a different hotel to show everyone here hundreds of thousands of people fly in to celebrate this weekend. that they need to be paid more. they're demanding a $5 raise right now. they're also asking for annual raise increases. they're also for more benefits. they say just like they work here, they also need to be able to live here. listen to what one of the strikers told me. >> we work very hard and it's not just us. it is true, we work very hard, hotel makes a lot of money. every year, it's a lot of millions of dollars and we really struggle to live here around the downtown. many people live about an hour from the downtown to where they live. so because they can't afford it
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to have an apartment around the downtown. >> reporter: after walking outside here of hotels that are sold out and they say that just shows how much profit that the hotels are raking in given the high demand for travel right now, but they are not a part of it. they say they want to be treated like a family. i want you to take another look at this crowd here as they continue their chants. these are the people that work at the hotel, the front desk, the cleaning staff. also, the food service workers. the chefs. all the people you come in contact with at your stay. so here they are. they're wearing red. they're proud to be american. and all they want is to be able to live here. lindsey? >> all right, thank you for that live report. >> still ahead, crunching the numbers as tens of millions try to figure out how they'll pay off their student loans. tom costello has what you need
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because these last 20 years are just the beginning. for 43 million american, loan payments will pick back up in the fall after the supreme court struck down president biden's student debt program but there are some ways to soften the blow. tom costello reports. >> after a three-year payment hiatus during covid, the clock
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is ticking down to a potential wallet buster. the decision means borrowers must resume paying off their loans. >> i planned on saving for my home. possibly starting a family. >> 30-year-old scherron elliot had plans. >> my wife also has 53,000 in student loans so we're both going to be set back. >> with interest rates averaging nearly 5%, experts urge borrowers to make more than the minimum payment. >> if you make the minimum payment on your student debt, you're going to carry it for a long time. >> the average debt, $30,000. now the biden administration is developing a slow repayment onramp. borrowers who can't make a payment the first 12 months with will not be penalized an a plan called save would cut the
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payments in half from 10% of discretionary income to 5%. after ten years of payments, loans of $12,000 or less would be forgiven. >> it's good for the economy. the country. it's going to be good for you. >> meanwhile, public service workers including first responders, nurses and teachers, might also qualify for loan forgiveness. >> there are affordable ways to pursue college degrees and in many professions and occupations, you absolutely need those credentials to be able to pursue those careers. >> college enrollment is actually dropping with fewer stuntss and higher tuition. financial advisers say in state schools and two year community colleges can help make that degree much more affordable. back to you. >> thank you. that does it for me today. very happy and healthy fourth to all of you. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern. in roughly an hour, we expect the news conference from
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philadelphia's mayor and police commissioner. richard lui picks up our coverage right now. i picks up or coverage right now good day to you. happy fourth of july from msnbc headquarters in new york city. in the last 24 hours, two more communities in the u.s. now reeling from a uniquely american problem. gun violence. we have new information after a shooting in philadelphia claimed five lives and a shooting in fort worth, texas, claiming three lives. live reports this hour. plus, shocking images are m coming out of the middle east as the israeli military continues its biggest operations in two decades in the occupied west bank. back in the u.s., independence day celebrations could look a little different this year as millions are under a severe weather watch. that blistering heat leaving some places to switch out fireworks for drones. in massachusetts, one community postponing fireworks all together. >>
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