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china. plus, with pomp and pageantry, as scotland throws its own party to celebrate king charles iii. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments, but we begin, though, with the latest on that mass shooting in philadelphia. rehema ellis is following this for us. >> they are still investigating. there was a preliminary arraignment for the suspect in this case, a 40-year-old man brought into court this morning, charged with multiple counts of murder, aggravated assault. no bail was allowed for this person. he's being held without bail. as a result of this killing of five people, one as young as 15, the oldest, 59 years old, and there were twin toddlers who were hurt. one was shot in the leg as they were in the car with their mother, another's eye was injured as a result of shattered glass. the community also came together this morning to talk about what
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can be done with this violence. one doctor said they deal with it on an every day basis, but what happened over the weekend was unusual in terms of the type of weapon that was used, the number of people killed and the wounds reverberating through the community. we hear from the nurse who was a part of the emergency team that worked with the victims. listen to what she said about how even health professionals who deal with trauma on a daily basis, they too are affected. take a listen. >> it's just really hard to comfort them, and it really takes a toll on my colleagues and to go through this, like dr. caspin said, very frequently, just doesn't get any easier. >> doesn't get easy for anyone, and in fact, they talked about how these families now not only dealing with their grief, but trying to figure out how do they
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buried their loved ones when this is something they were not expecting at all. lindsey. >> rehema ellis, thank you. let's go to the white house, where nbc's mike memoli has more on president biden's scheduled meeting today with the prime minister of sweden. what message is the president hoping to send with his meeting today ahead of the big nato summit next week. >> we have heard from president biden multiple times, one of the things he's proud of is especially in the wake of russia's invasion of ukraine, he's not only prevented putin of achieving his goal of providing the west he's keeping the western alliance in tact and expand upon it with the addition of finland to the nato alliance, and sweden's application is pending. the swedish prime minister literally pulled behind me, arriving to the west wing entrance just a few moments ago, and he'll be sitting with the president where president biden will pledge the u.s.'s support for sweden's joining of the nato
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alliance, and they'll have the chance to discuss the important business of the nato summit, even if sweden is not participating. why has sweden not yet exceeded into nato. there are two members, hungary and turkey, who have not gone through the process of ratifying their membership. the trip that the president will be making next week to lithuania, the host of the nato summit will be part of a broader trip, including a meeting with king charles and end with a trip to finland. why is that significant? significant has joined nato, one of the newest members, but president biden's visit to helsinki will recall what president trump did during his time in office. he met, sat down face-to-face with vladimir putin of russia. it was a rather friendly discussion in which ultimately president trump seemed to side with the russian president on the question of whether russia was involved in interfering in our elections in 2016. so on a very important diplomatic trip, this will also be potentially a bit of a campaign message in which the president can remind the
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contrasting views of his predecessor, and his foreign policies. >> thank you. treasury secretary janet yellen is on her way to china right now for a high stakes visit. morgan brennan. >> high stakes is the right word, secretary yellen coming three weeks after secretary of state blinken's trip, after a flurry of visits by ceos of the largest u.s. companies, tim cook of am, elon musk of tesla, call this a clear effort by the biden administration to reinstate lines of communication, and the treasury secretary travels there with the goal of finding areas of common economic ground amid what is increasingly a turbulent relationship between the world's two biggest economies. so in that sense, this will be the first major test of a policy she outlined earlier this year, focused on defending u.s. national security without trying to hold china back economically or, at least to completely decouple these two major economies. that said, even as the rhetoric
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softens, policy moving in the other direction. china slapping export controls on key metals used to nak semiconductors with a chinese official making just a start. this is the western tech curbs put into place. rare earth minerals, which is a market china controls, and is key to the manufacturing of everything from iphones to electric vehicles could be curtailed by china next. meantime, the u.s. reportedly poised to curb china access to cloud services from the likes of amazon and microsoft. if adopted that's a rule that would require government permission before providing the cloud services that use advanced artificial intelligence chips to chinese customers. this is high stakes backdrop by yellen over the next couple of days, and it comes, lindsey, as the chinese economy has not grown as the world expected coming out of the pandemic
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lockdowns. two months after his lavish coronation, king charles got a big celebration. this time in scotland. ali arouzi is live from buckingham palace. give us the highlights from today's events. >> he was in scotland for what people are calling a second coronation. technically they're marking the first one that happened two months ago and it's a ceremony steeped in ancient traditions since the union of the crowns in 1603, there were big crowds on the streets of edinboro to welcome the king, and a lavish ceremony. he was presented with a sword, a scepter, the crown worn by mary queen of scots in 1643. lots of pomp and pageantry here. the stone of destiny, also known as the stone of scune was there. playing a very important role in
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his coronation at westminster abbey. accompanying him was queen camila, kate, william, but conspicuously absent was prince harry. nonetheless, there were thousands of people on the streets of edinburgh, waving flags. not everybody was celebrating, lindsey. some anti-monarchists had a rally outside the scottish parliament. there were elected officials there as well as scottish parliament ministers but i don't think that dampened the mood for king charles. he left st. charles cathedral to a 21 gun salute, back to the palace, the official residence of the king in scotland. he'll be there for the rest of the week, for events and ceremonies marking the important week, marking scotland and the king, and then he's back to london to buckingham palace
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behind me. it was a continuation of the coronation two months ago, and now it's all official here in england and in scotland. he's been crowned across the uk with the oldest crowned jewels in the country. >> thank you. still ahead, the mystery in the west wing, how did a bag containing cocaine get there. we'll get a live report. a live . i brought in ensure max protein with 30g of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks.
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this. this is an area that has a lot of people going in and out. it may be difficult to narrow it down from a broader list of potential suspects, i suppose, because, you know, when you have the video coverage and you have a number of people going in and out, it's going to be tough to determine who exactly was carrying a little bag in their pocket or something. something that wouldn't be immediately obvious that they were carrying it. so i think that, you know, this could be a little bit of a challenge for them to narrow down who it was. you can't say when the windows started, when it was last checked by someone. we don't know precisely where it was found, so, you know, i think narrowing it down is going to depend a lot on what the video evidence shows and if they're able to get the time frame down to when it was left there. >> ryan reilly, thank you for that update. president biden is facing renewed pressure for supreme court reform. for members of his own party after recent supreme court decisions. in the house, representatives khanna and buyer reintroduced
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term limits. and candidate adam schiff is taking it a step further, campaigning on adding seats to the supreme court. so far, president biden has been hesitant. here's what he told my colleague nicolle wallace last week. >> if we start the process of trying to expand the court, we're going to politicize it maybe forever in a way that is not healthy. >> that you can't get back. >> that you can't get back. >> here to discuss is basil smikle, former director of the new york party. do you think that most people can get behind term limits as opposed to expansion of the court? >> well, that's where the difficulty is. i think voters want some kind of reform, not just because of the recent decisions but because of the concerns around ethics. something needs to get done. the question is, what's the best way forward. president biden had his own commission established to look
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at this, and they weren't even tasked with specific recommendations and there was concern, not just concern, there was some discrepancy as to how to move forward. these are some of the best legal minds in the country. it's not an easy fix. that's one problem. the second problem is biden himself is a bit of an institutionalist. if you think about his language around the filibuster, it's not unlike what we hear in terms of the supreme court. he's concerned about what happens after he's gone. the one point i want to hone in on, this shouldn't be a politicized thing. the court is political. and once we establish that, we can find a way to move forward, trying to believe that it's apolitical, and particularly given the recent decisions, i think that's long gone. >> given what we heard from the president, he doesn't have an appetite for expanding the court. you have politicians like adam schiff that are campaigning on that. is that giving far left voters false hope here. it doesn't appear like there's
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bipartisan appetite to do something like that. >> this has actually been argued going back to fdr when he was trying to push through elements of his deal. it's not an old argument. the question is who is going to be the face or who are the faces of this movement to make this change? part of the challenge is getting over this hurdle where so many voters think that what is old is sacrosanct. if that was the case, i would be in chains. we have to find a way to move forward, and we have to do it through a concerted movement and an effort where we can closely agree on what's going to happen next, and the problem is not only has that not happened, but i don't know if biden in the time that he has through the selection to be able to do it. so the question is what can he do now to give voters an indication that there is going to be some movement? maybe ethics reform is probably the best way to go in the shorter period of time. >> when you hear what some folks are saying, like schiff and khanna in terms of some kind of
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reform, expansion or term limits, do you get a sense that democrats are charting strategies for 2024 in terms of, look, this isn't about what we're hoping dobbs galvanizing or any of these votes on affirmative action or student loan debt and the like, do you feel like now they're going to be running on some kind of reform? >> they have to. i believe it's very important to do that. you cannot be a candidate in this modern environment and turn your back on what has happened with this particular court. i think the majority of voters whether you're democrat or republican but certainly if you're a democrat, indemnity voter, disaffected republican feel that something needs to be done. that's in part why biden got elected. >> you feel like moderates and independents, even disaffected republicans, you feel like they don't have a party before, they're eyeing reform? >> they're individuals affect bid governance, ethics violations of this court that we
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can see fairly quickly, and affected by the issues, lgbtq rights, how do we galvanize support and make a concerted effort for a movement of change, even if it's not sweeping change, we have to agree that incrementalism may be the best way to go in the short-term, but we have to move forward one way or another. >> president biden isn't eager for any of these reforms, do you get a sense that his, for example, the new onramp for student loan debt. we don't know yet if he's going to call for doing away with legacy admissions like we have seen in a civil rights lawsuit at the department of ed, do you get a sense that the small steps that the administration is trying to make within the purview is enough for voters to say, okay, they're doing what they can given that their hands are tied by scotus. >> small steps are better than no steps. they want to see you doing something. again, i'm not a huge fan of
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incrementalism. i want to see big change. that i think matters, but most of the country is not there. we tend to want and believe in incrementalism. we don't trust the people in power to make the sweeping changes. if he's going to galvanize and mobilize the vote going into 2024, do something, and he is, but voters want you to appear to be able to recognize the problem and take steps to moving in a direction to fix it, and i think he's doing that. >> basil smikle, thank you for the conversation. ukraine's president warning of possible explosives planted by russia at the site of a nuclear power plant. what he's claiming, next. plus, the american effort to help ukraine thousands of miles away from the front lines. we'll take you inside the pennsylvania factory producing critical ammunition. e pennsylvania factory producing itcrical ammunition. (vo) consumer reports evaluates vehicles for car shoppers in... reliability, safety, owner satisfaction, and road-test evaluations... and the results are in. subaru is the twenty twenty-three best mainstream
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a new report says china's leader, xi jinping personally warned vladimir putin against using nuclear weapons in ukraine in a face-to-face meeting in moscow back in march. the report from the financial times also says that chinese officials have privately taken credit for convincing putin to calm down his nuclear rhetoric. nbc news is still working to independently confirm that report. in the meantime, ukrainian president zelenskyy is sounding the alarm about possible explosives planted by russia on the roof of the largest nuclear power plant in europe. nbc's kelly cobiella is reporting from kyiv, ukraine.
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we know the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant is a constant source of concern since the invasion began. what's the situation now? it's been occupied by russians since march of last year. the warnings and the anxiety over what might happen at that nuclear power plant has ramped up to a whole new level. several top ukrainian officials have warned of a possible imminent attack there. it got to such a point that they were even tweeting out information about how to react if there were a radiation leak. now, president zelenskyy is one of those officials who has been sounding the alarm, and he set out a couple of tweets saying that first of all, ukrainian
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intelligence believed they placed an explosive on two of the nuclear reactors of the power units and that was to simulate an attack and blame ukraine, and went on to say perhaps the russians had been emboldened after the explosion at the dam last month, saying there was no timely large scale response to the dam being blown up and this may incite the kremlin to commit new evil. the kremlin said it's the responsibility of everyone in the world to stop it. no one can stand aside, radiation affects everyone. russia has responded to these games a couple of times now. a few days ago they said these were pure lies, today hitting back and accusing ukraine of planning some sort of attack at that plant. the united nations nuclear watchdog, the iaea says they were actually at the plant a couple of weeks ago. they said they saw no sign of any sort of sabotage there on
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the ground while they were there then, but they are now requesting new access, they say to verify there are no explosives planted anywhere on any of the reactor units or cooling pond. >> kelly cobiella. thank you for that live report. an entire generation of young ukrainians have seen their lives upturned by the russian invasion. among them some 700,000 ukrainian children who live in russia, according to the russian parliament. moscow frames that program as a humanitarian effort rescuing orphans from the conflict zones. but russia and vladimir putin personally stand accused by the hag for abducting ukrainian children a potential war crime. there are so many questions about the children living in exile in ukraine, the devastating impact the war is having on the children is plain to see. joining us from lviv, ukraine, the founding director of the
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national center for disaster preparedness at columbia university. doctor, it's good to see you, thank you for your time. you're there with singer and political activist, joan baez meeting with children who have been injured in russian attacks. what are you seeing and hearing from these kids and parents? >> it's an incredible situation, but i want to make a comment about the nuclear power situation which is something we have explored quite a bit in the united states. this is an act of insanity, even to threaten the potential of a nuclear melt down by exploding a device at plant, and hopefully that will not be verified. in the meantime, there used to be 7 1/2 million children in ukraine. about 5 million have moved from the east and south to western safer parts of ukraine, and another couple of million have
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actually been part of the refugee population. these children are under a phenomenal amount of psychological stress. many haven't been going to school for three years. of course, before the war, they were out of school because of covid. the remediation of these children and dealing with their psychological stress is something our organization and others are deeply concerned about. so we were just there in kyiv. we were in some towns north of kyiv. and we saw a tremendous amount of destruction. one of the things i did do. i'm pediatrician by background, i spent quite a bit of time in hospitals seeing children who have had very prolonged illnesses and long time recovery challenges. the amazing thing, though, is the amount of resilience you see in these parents. they want the russians out of ukraine entirely. they don't really care what it
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takes, and they seem to be not affected by the loss and grieving and the destruction of their country. they just want russia out of there, and they depend on zelenskyy and the military support he's getting from all over the world, especially the united states to make sure that they're victorious in this struggle. so joan has been with us, as you see, she played beautiful version of "imagine" in a small town that has been completely wrecked by the russians, met with many families, and amazing experience. but the ukrainians of course are supported every other con zefable way and the kids, are suffering significantly. >> and doctor, i know you said these parents are resilient, but when it comes to the psychological trauma, are you
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seeing any evidence, are you thinking that's going to potential -- and what is your organization doing to help? >> there's plenty of post-traumatic stress disorder right now, and many many children are suffering to the point that children are unable to go to school, and they can't get to a classroom, so with all of this supporting a number of entities like recovery cams, where the kids can get really pretty sophisticated treatment for dealing with the stress, and the second thing is that if you can imagine, no teacher anywhere in the world is really prepared to deal with this level of psychological stress, so one of the things we did was we developed an online program to train teachers how to deal with lots of stress among the kids in their classrooms. that actually, we met with members of parliament ukraine, and members of the ministry of
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education, and we have just launched that program to be available for every teacher and not only in ukraine, be also for teachers who are dealing with refugee children in poland and other countries. so it's a tremendous amount to be done. besides the war fighting, these kids really do have to be protected, and make sure they're actually able to get back to school, their medical and psychological prompts are assessed and treated, and that's what we're focused on and will be for the foreseeable future. >> dr. erwin, thank you so much for making time for us. president biden held a bilat with the sweden prime minister. this is taped playback of that. >> sweden is a capable and committed partner, together in our relationship even further, and advancing the bilateral partnership agreement we were
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talking about. but we're also prepared for the nato summit next week, and i want to reiterate the united states fully, fully supported sweden's membership in nato, and the bottom line is simple, sweden is going to make our alliance stronger, and has the same value set that we have in nato, and really looking, anxiously looking forward for your membership. and know that bilateral relationship, sweden and the united states are taking on the challenges that matter most to our people from taking on the climate crisis, to a free and open indo-pacific. across the board, we have seen an agreement on most everything. we're stepping up to protect our shared democratic values including providing security and humanitarian assistance, the people of ukraine, the generosity of the swedish people have been extreme. they've done a great great deal, as ukraine defends themselves
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against russia's brutality, and together, our countries and companies are working in lock step on emerging technologies, including i want to thank you mr. prime minister to build a safe 5g networks, and i want to thank you again for being here. we have a lot to cover, and i yield to you, mr. prime minister. >> thank you so much, mr. president. thank you so much. i really do appreciate it. thank you for the kind invitation to come here. it's highly valued to us. i believe that sweden and the u.s., we share so many values and priorities. not least right now, that goes for how to handle the war in ukraine. i thank you for your leadership. the transatlantic unity, that you have made so much to
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establish. it goes also to how to tackle the climate crisis. climate change, goes for handling transatlantic way, the challenges that china creates for democracies. and i also would like to say that we highly appreciate your strong support for sweden's obsession. that means a lot to us, we do seek common protection. but we also do think that we have things to contribute with, to be a security provider for the whole of nato. >> that's clear. >> i very much look forward to our talks here today. >> i look forward to it, because you're an extremely valuable and capable partner. >> thank you. >> mr. president --
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[ inaudible questions ] >> how confident -- >> all right. everybody, you can see there that the president was asked many questions, including how cocaine got into the white house, but did not answer. just a quick recap, he called sweeten a capable and committed partner. a little bit of background n sweden's bid to try and join nato, we know that turkey has resisted, hungary has yet to ratify that bid. we have the big nato summit coming up next week on july 11th and 12th in lithuania. this is a show of support on the president hoping that sweden does become a member, a nato member. coming up, are we going to need a bigger boat? americans on high alert after multiple shark sightings and attacks on the east coast. we'll get an update from bustling miami beach next. updam bustling miami beach next. your y subway footlong for free. like the subway series menu. just buy any footlong in the app, and get one free. everyone loves free stuff chuck.
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moments ago in philadelphia, a powerful moment from the sisters of one of the victims of monday's mass shooting. josephine wama, the twin city of joseph jr. and her sister jasmine spoke about her love for her brother who she described as a true artist. >> i really love him, and the fact that you did this to us, like, for your own agenda, for your own reason, it's just really pissing me off. it's really pissing me off, and
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i'm going to miss him a lot. he taught me a lot about myself. he was like a second father to me. i never wanted to tell anyone that, but he was like a second father to me. he was getting me on things i need to do, plans. he was like, you got to plan stuff and then just do it. so he was gorgeous inside and out. i'm going to miss that beautiful smile. i really am. he had the best hugs. >> and he took care of his family. >> she said her brother was an angel taken away. he was among five victims killed. disturbing new details about a january 6th rioter who was arrested near the home of former president barack obama. in a new court filing, federal prosecutors say tailor taranto appeared to target the obama home. he used his own truth social account to repost the address writing quote, we got these
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losers surrounded. he also spoke on a live stream discussing finding an entrance to the obama's home via the sewers. those are some of the extraordinary details we learned. nbc's ryan reilly is following this for us. i understand he allegedly made a number of other threats in the days before his arrest. what can you tell us? >> yeah, so taylor taranto was identified online in august of 2021. he was sued by the family of a d.c. police officer who died by suicide shortly after the january 6th attack. while that litigation has been ongoing, he has not been charged. when i went to the courthouse for the sentencing of david wallace kaufman. he showed up in court, talked to by the u.s. marshals because he was using his phone during that event. he's readily and easily identified by online sleuths and journalist who is pay close attention to what's happening down by the d.c. jail because he
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was living out of there in a van. what the court filing says and indicates from federal prosecutors is they claimed that because he had no fixed address, they were having trouble finding him leading up to this arrival at obama's residence when he was live streaming on social media. but he's, you know, been a constant presence in d.c., and has, in fact, clashed with other supporters of january 6th defendants who post up at that d.c. jail on a nightly basis because his views were too radical, and you can see him rocking back and forth incoherently, he's counting stones by the congressional cemetery, and seems to subscribe to any conspiracy theory out there. isn't sure if ashley babbit was killed that day. 400 rounds of ammunitions by the president's home is something
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you want to pay close attention to, and something now federal prosecutors say is a reason to hold him. he doesn't have this fixed address. he doesn't have family ties, and i don't know, came to d.c. because kevin mccarthy said that he would make video tape from january 6th available. so kind of a disturbing portrait of taylor taranto's life. a hearing on his intention will be held in 20 minutes. a former smallville actress is out of prison a year early after serving time for extortion and forced labor for her role in the cult group nexium. allison mack best known as playing superman's friend on the show. she avoided a longer sentence by cooperating with federal authorities in bringing the case against nexium leader, keith renear, accused of building a secret society in which women were brainwashed into sexual situations and branded with his
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let's take you to new york, this bird's eye view of a school of sand tiger sharks navigating the waters. there have been five incidents that involved a shark, including a 15 year old boy bitten on his heels and toes while surfing. what's happening? >> reporter: historically, unprovoked shark attacks are rare. globally, 74 a year. when you think about the millions of people swimming. based on what we have seen in recent days and weeks in florida and new york, it feels like a lot more than that. let's start with new york where there were three incidents or three attacks. on july 4th, five in two days, all in long island, from fireland to quad. a couple of menace in their 40s, one bitten in the knee.
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they are all being treated for nonlife threatening injuries. while in florida, some scary scenes mere, not far from where i'm standing in surf side, which is the miami area, there was a hammer head shark sitting off the coastline, additionally in navar beach, the pensacola area, there was a dorsal fin bobbing up and down, as people were screaming get out on to shore. no one was injured in that situation either. but there are some tips that experts want you to know. you should be swimming in clear water so the shark sees you and doesn't confuse you for food or bait. make sure you're not wearing shiny jewelry, and no excessive splashing in the water. stay safe as shark sightings anecdotically feel like they're up. >> sam brock, thank you. the white house press briefing is underway. karine jean-pierre was asked about a small bag of cocaine, let's listen. >> can you give any more details
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on where the secret service found the cocaine in the west wing? >> as you know, this is under the purview of the secret service. they are currently investigating what happened over the weekend, so i would have to refer you to the secret service on all of this. but one thing that i can share that i'll share a little bit more information, as you know, the president and the firstly day and their family were not here this weekend, as you also know, they left on friday and returned yesterday. where this was discovered is a heavily traveled area where many white house, west wing, i should be even more specific, west wing visitors come through this particular area. i just don't have anything more to share. it is under investigation by the secret service. this is in their purview. we're going to allow certainly the investigation to continue, and we have confidence that the secret service will get to the bottom of this. >> the president said, let's get
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to the bottom of what happened here? >> i just said that we have information that the secret service will get to the bottom of this. the president follows the reporting here, and he was briefed by his staff on everything we know so far. but the secret service is investigating this. investigating what happened over the weekend, and we have confidence that they will get to the bottom of this. >> secondly, is there still a chance that sweden will be approved -- >> and that small bag containing cocaine, which tested positive for the substance was found during routine patrols. secret service is now looking at cameras and logs to get to the bottom of it. it's being called a game changer for policing in a california town. how drones are being used to uncover crucial evidence. why some have some concerns about it next. have some concer about it enext
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japan just got the green light to release treated radioactive waste water into the ocean. 12 years after the fukushima nuclear melt down. approval came after a safety review from the u.n.'s nuclear watchdog. the international atomic energy agency says the water, which has been treated to remove radioactivity will now have negligible impact to people and the environment, when released in nearby waters. send in the drones, and one california beach town, the technology may be the first responder. proponents say it helps police capture crucial evidence, but it's still relatively new.
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nbc's ken dilanian looks at the potential benefits and concerns. >> an eye in the sky, helping police deescalate gun confrontations and put away violent criminals. >> about 88 to 90% of the time the drone is on scene before officers in the field arrive. >> we'll be responding east to lincoln boulevard. >> reporter: in beachside, santa monica, police officer peter lashley can survey a city block for a reported suspicious person from a command center a mile away. or zoom in to read a license plate. last year, the drone was the only witness to a brutal assault, and its footage was used to convict one of the attackers. >> how have these drones changed the way your department does its work? >> it's a fundamental change. it allows an experienced police officer to see what's going on in realtime and communicate those facts to the officer's responding. >> reporter: they say the
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drone's eye view can prevent officers from overreacting. santa monica police got a call last year about a man with a gun. at first, drone footage appeared to confirm it. but then. >> as i'm watching him, i can clearly see, and you'll see he exhales a little bit of smoke in a second, i'm 99% sure that's some type of lighter. >> reporter: given that, police didn't need to approach aggressively. drones can also help police on dangerous operations. we got a demonstration of the lemur, which s.w.a.t teams can use to break windows and fly inside buildings, even talking to a barricaded subject. >> this is the police department, we're here to resolve the situation peacefully gl we don't have a problem with drones being used for particular emergencies. what we don't want to see is drones being used for routine mass surveillance where they're watching everybody all the time. we're afraid this is going to lead to that. >> seattle has banned the use of police drones, and other communities have demanded strict
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rules. >> there are some people that are just uncomfortable with the idea of the police flying anything that could conduct overhead surveillance. >> we respond to calls for service. we don't utilize it as a random surveillance tool. i think as it rolls out on a national level, that's going to be incumbent upon those agencies that deploy it to be responsible with it. >> and important for communities to keep watch on those who protect and serve. ken dilanian, nbc news, santa monica. a quick programming note before we go. on friday, richard engel examines the trajectory of the wagner leader, yevgeny prigozhin. how putin's former property jay turned on his boss, watch on assignment, revolt from within, the rise of wagner, on friday at 11:00 p.m. eastern. that does it for me this hour. tune into "chris jansing reports" every day from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern.
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i'll see you tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. and our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. there is movement today from the florida judge who approved the fbi search warrant for mar-a-lago. judge bruce reinhart has ordered more of the justification used to search donald trump's private club and residence he made public. joining me now is nbc news investigative correspondent, tom winter. this affidavit was the subject of a lot of debate and conversation leading up to what we saw with the indictment. what could we learn from the affidavit that we have not yet learned from the indictment? >> right. we had a lot of pages that looked like this. that's what we were able to receive last august, as media organizations fought to get access to the affidavit, which is essentially the fbi's

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