to be someone reported eight years ago. here's the puzzling part. apparently he had been living with his mother all along. here's nbc's priscilla thompson. >> reporter: draped in a towel but alive, new images of rudy farias, as the mystery around his disappearance deepens. the 25-year-old was allegedly found last week outside a church and unresponsive, his family says. eight years after he allegedly vanished without a trace while walking his dogs. his mother, janie santana reported the then 17-year-ooaec >> at this hour, a tech rivalry heats up. twitter accuses meta of stealing trade secrets for a new app and threatens to take mark zuckerberg to court. mending ties, treasury secretary janet yellen begins a high stakes trip telling china the u.s. isn't looking for a winner take all fight. the fallout over crack cocaine -- cocaine found at the white house. calling it a shameful moment in history. >> and millions of americans sweltering under triple digit temperatures as one city cease a week-long streak of 110 degrees. our nbc news reporters are following the latest developments for us, and we do begin with that sizzling heat that's baking parts of this country. nbc meteorologist bill karins is here with me. i mean, look at all the red there and the hot pink. it looks like the entire country is being impacted and for how

long. >> it's been a rough start to the summer season, and we're seeing the worst of it now shifting. a lot is going to go where you have a lot of friends, heading toward the west coast. so far most of the suffering has been throughout the south, texas, a hot fourth in areas of the northeast, and today the hottest has been in the areas of south florida, miami feels like 105 degrees. the problem with miami is it's been very humid too, and hasn't had time to cool off. last week at one point, up to 15, 16 million. we're down to 14 million. a few spots in florida, and now we're focusing the dangerous heat into the southwest. you're going to start to hear wild numbers coming out of the desert areas as we head through the week next week. it looks to peak somewhere around wednesday or thursday. today, 111 in phoenix, a little bit warmer than it should be. normally it should be 106 this time of year. they've had six days in a row above 110. just in the back of your mind, the record in 1970s was 18 days in a row in phoenix above 110. we're at six now, we have a

chance of getting towards the record and breaking it. that's how long the heat wave is going to last. phoenix, 112, 112, 112, into monday, typically the third or fourth week of july is the peak of the heating season in the summer, that's usually when we hit our average highest temperatures. when it's above average at the hottest time of year, that's when you get dangerous and all time record highs. that's going to be west texas through the phoenix area. as far as rainfall goes, cooler weather from the great lakes to the northeast. how hot will it get next week? the hottest ever in phoenix is 122 degrees, it's happened a couple of times. next week, 117, 116, this is a week away. these numbers could fluctuate. if we have a chance, it could be wednesday or thursday, getting up to the 118, 119 levels, so we're going to approach some of those all time records. top ten hottest, guaranteed

possibly into the top five ever. other stories out there, we haven't had a lot of bad severe weather the last couple of days. not expecting a ton today. we will have a chance of a few areas getting some strong storms in north texas. we continue with heat headlines as i'm sure a lot of people have been seeing. the last four days on planet earth have been the four hottest we have recorded. >> you know how i'm telling you, i would prefer is 110 degree heat that's dry over humid, for one day, maybe, not 6 or 18, poor folks in phoenix. let's go to capitol hill where garrett haake is following the republican reaction to the cocaine found in the white house. what can you tell us about the briefing that the house oversight committee wants on this. >> reporter: the house oversight committee which has jurisdiction over anything it wants in most cases is asking for a briefing, a staff briefing about the

discovery of cocaine and about the security procedures around it. they want to know how something like this got into the building, how it was discovered, and what then triggered this alarm that led to an of the evacuation of the building around the discovery. i think it's also fair to look at this, especially given the time line. there's a bit of an opportunity by house republicans to keep the story in the headlines, late next week, especially given our white house team is reporting, the investigation is expected to be wrapped up as early as monday. an opportunity for republicans to try to continue making some political hay out of this, make this an embarrassing story for the white house until late next week while we wait to find out a little bit more about what was going on here. >> garrett haake, thank you for the update from capitol hill. janet yellen in a high stakes meeting in beijing. we have allie raffa at the white

house. welcome, what did yellen say? >> reporter: this trip is a really tight and tough balancing act for the treasury secretary because she has to appear firm in defending u.s. interests while trying to strengthen and restore trust and communication lines between the u.s. and china, the world's two largest economies after we saw the impact that that chinese spy balloon incident had. you add to that the potential ban of tiktok in the u.s., because of its ties to the chinese government. that's compounded by that recent comment we heard from president biden calling chinese president xi, a dictator. she has a lot to struggle with, juggle with, rather, a lot on her plate while she is in beijing on this tour. but listen to how she approached this during a meeting earlier today with american executives and chinese officials. >> i've been particularly tripled punitive actions that have been taken against u.s. firms in recent months.

we see healthy economic competition that is not winner take all, but with a fair set of rules will benefit both of our countries. >> reporter: yellen was referring to the chinese government's treatment of u.s. companies operating in china and the tit for tat we have seen in the u.s. and china, when it relates to the manufacturing of specifically semiconductor chips, tightening controls on the exports of minerals needed to make the chips and the u.s. responding months ago by clamping down on china's access to the actual technology and tools needed to make those that come from the u.s. yellen at one point during this meeting suggesting that that justified these actions by china, justified the biden administration's move to lessen dependency on china's manufacturing of these chips to make this more focused on developing these in the united states. she even warned there could

potentially be more actions by the united states government, clamping down on these. overall, alex, this is just her second day, her first full day of meetings in beijing, so there's a lot of eyes, a lot of attention and interest into what more could come out of this trip. remember, administration officials set the bar low before she left saying they don't expect breakthroughs to come out of this. based on what we have heard so far from both u.s. and chinese officials, there seems to be meaningful progress so far. >> and that's a good thing. thank you for bringing it to us, allie raffa from the white house. a looming battle could be on meta. tell us why twitter is threatening to take this company to court. >> twitter is certainly taking note of the fast growth of meta's twitter alternative. it's called threads and it's hit 70 million users in a day or so

since its launch the other night, but the similarities of threads to twitter have raise some red flags for twitter and its owner, elon musk. musk tweeting out competition is fine. cheating is not. and yesterday evening, twitter's attorney, alex spiro accusing it of stealing trade secrets to create a copy cat app of twitter, as meta's threads app continues to grow. now, spiro writing twitter has serious concerns that meta is engaged in system attic, willful and unlawful intellectual property. this prompted a response from meta spokesperson andy stone. he posted his response on threads saying, quote, no one on threads' engineering team is a former twitter employee. that's just not a thing. so now we are waiting to see how all of this plays out. it does not help twitter right

now that it's been suffering from outages of its desk top app. that is problematic and, alex, you have frustration from twitter users that just this past weekend, elon musk set limits to how many tweets people could read. while twitter is dealing with frustrated users, those users do have a new alternative in threads. back over to you. >> bad timing. the gunman in the el paso walmart shooting rampage has learned his fate after facing dozens of victims' family members in court. we'll tell you what it is. we're back in 60 seconds. is. we're back in 60 seconds feel the difference with downy. this week is your chance to try any subway footlong for free. like the subway series menu. just buy any footlong in the app, and get one free.

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spent two days face to face with that shooter in court for the very first time, calling him the devil, an evil parasite and a monster in emotional impact statements. with me now, nbc's guad venegas as well as charles coleman, an nbc legal analyst, and former federal prosecutor. guys, welcome. guad, give us the latest from the sentencing and the victims' statements and what happens next. >> alex, it was as you mentioned, a hearing that took three days, the last few days we heard the victim impact statements. you shared some o. of the quotes of what they said in the courtroom. it was an opportunity to speak to the shooter face to face, and finally today, we heard the sentence, 90 consecutive life sentences. the judge read all of the charges. we heard from his defense attorney. patrick decided not to speak at

the sentencing. his client understands the harm he has caused to the community. he takes full responsibility for his action and agrees to that sentence. he also talked about the mental health issues that he said his client suffered saying that he has a broken brain and he hopes he can receive mental health treatment. we heard from the prosecutors who offered an apology to mexico for those mexicans that were killed, and also to germany. there was a german citizen that was also killed inside of the store, and of course we heard the judge issue that sentence. and the family members of the victims who were present had an emotional reaction. one of them spoke to us as he exited the courtroom. this is him. >> he did what he did. i know that we would all like to have the answers why he chose to do it. we have an idea why, but the real motive, i don't think anybody will ever see that.

i do feel better that i was able to talk to him. i made him look in my eyes. like i said, he's just a coward. it is what it is. >> just another one of the family members that got an opportunity to go to that courtroom and say something directly to the shooter. of course the feeling by many of those that arrived at the courtroom throughout this sentencing hearing is that nothing is enough. there isn't enough punishment for what they've suffered through because of the death of these 23 people and also the dozens that were injured. we have to keep in mind, alex, that there is a state case against the shooter. for that case, the district attorney's office is asking for the death penalty. that trial is still set to begin, alex. >> yeah, a lot of points you have laid out for us. we're going to talk with charles coleman about that. first, charles, your reaction to the sentence, 90 life sentences

that's significant. >> it is extremely significant, and people need to understand, when you're talking about the notion of consecutive, what it means is essentially this man is destined to never spend another day outside as a free man ever again. a when you get sentences of this nature, they are run concurrent. in this case, the prosecutor in this case made the decision to give him the plea to allow him to plead guilty as long as he could take the 90 consecutive lifetimes in terms of the sentence. now, the exchange was that he would not face the death penalty on the federal level. as has already been stated, on the state level, state prosecutors in texas will be looking to try him, and will be seeking to actually go for the death penalty should he be convicted there. >> so if he admitted guilt, which he did in the federal case, if he does so in the state case, charles, does that mean that he could get out of the death penalty and get just more

life in prison since that's where he's going to be anyway? >> not necessarily, alex. a lot of that would be dependent on the prosecutor. the prosecutor at the federal level made the decision to offer the plea deal for the federal case. the state attorney or the state prosecutor is in no way, shape or form under an obligation to do that with respect to his charges at the state level. that deal may not necessarily be extended, even if he does decide to come forward, and admit his guilt. >> does the federal case affect the state case influentially in any other way? >> in some cases, i mean, to the extent that he's pled guilty to certain things, there are certain elements of each crime which the state will still have to prove but ultimately will be easy to establish because he has pled guilty to them. to that extent, that's something they'll use in state court against them. there are going to be additional elements every charge at the

state level that the state prosecutor has to establish beyond a reasonable doubt. there's going to be some overlap. the state has some burden to establish whether it's at trial, if he decides not to plea, that they are going to have to put forward a case. >> gentleman, thank you so much, guad venegas, and charles coleman, for all of that. we're going to take you to the white house briefing. we have national security adviser jake sullivan, talking about evan gershkovich, who's sitting in prison in russia. let's take a listen. >> we remain in contact with russian authorities at high levels on these cases to try to figure out a way to bring unjustly detained americans home, including evan. we have made clear for months now, even before evan was detained as we were dealing with paul whelan that they are prepared to do hard things in order to get our citizens home, including getting evan home. i do not want to give false hope. what the kremlin said earlier

this week is correct. there have been discussions. those discussions have not produced a clear pathway to a resolution, and so i cannot stand here today and tell you that we have a clear answer to how we are going to get evan home. all i can do is tell you we have a clear commitment and conviction that we will do everything possible to bring him home. with respect to the question of whether the recent actions by prigozhin and the fallout from that creates new openings or opportunities, i can't say that i have perceived that directly, but of course this is a story that continues to be written day by day. we will have to see how things play out in moscow. in the meantime, we're going to stay laser focused on doing everything we can both directly with the russians and then with other allies and partners around the world who are invested in his safe return to try to get him out as soon as possible. >> president zelenskyy said vacation for ukraine will be the ideal outcome from the summit. why does he believe that's not

the right approach for the summit? >> as you know, the united states strongly supports the open door policy, which says that ukraine and nato can make a decision together about his pathway to membership. and an important moment on the pathway to membership, the united states and nato allies and ukraine will have the opportunity to discuss reforms necessary to come up to nato standards. this will, in fact, be a milestone. ukraine still has further steps it needs to take before membership. >> ukraine will not be joining nato coming out of this summit. we will discuss what steps are necessary as it continues along its path. >> what convinced president biden this was the right time to do munitions given the concerns. did allies express concerns to him? and the reason you're fighting classification because the train is running out of munition carrier rounds? >> first, we have been looking at this for quite some time, and

what we have been weighing is this basic question of civilian harm. the challenge of cluster munitions, as you know, even at low dud rates, there's some unexploded ordinance left, and that could pose a risk to civilians down the road. we did not immediately come out of the gate and provide this. we had to balance this against the risk of civilian harm if ukraine did not have sufficient ammunition. we are reaching a point in the conflict because of the high rates of artillery by ukraine and russia where we need to build a bridge from where we are today to when we have enough monthly production of unitary rounds that unitary rounds alone will suffice to give ukraine what it needs. as a result, this is the moment to begin the construction of that bridge so that there isn't any period over the summer or heading into the fall when ukraine is short on artillery, and being short on artillery, it is vulnerable to russian counter

attacks that could subjugate more ukrainian civilians. that's the thinking behind our decision. we consulted closely with allies in deciding to do this, and some allies who are not signatories to the oslo convention embraced it with open arms, said this is absolutely the right thing to do. even allies who were signatories, while they cannot formally support something they have signed up to a convention against have indicated both privately and many of them publicly over the course of today that they understand our decision, and fundamentally that they recognized difference between russia using its cluster munitions to attack ukraine, and ukraine using cluster munitions to defend itself, its citizens and sovereign territory. we feel this will in no way disrupt the strong firm unity we have heading into the nato summit next week. >> to follow up on the cluster munitions, last year in march, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations described those

munitions as exceptionally lethal weaponry. has ukraine provided you with assurances and guarantees in terms of their use in civilian areas, that they won't use them within a certain radius of civil areas, for example? >> ukraine has provided written assurances that it's going to use these in a very careful way aimed at minimizing risk to civilians. and by the way, ukraine, the democratically elected government of ukraine has every incentive to minimize risk to civilians because it's their citizens, it's ukrainians who they are trying to protect and defend. it's not ukraine taking these and using them in the middle east or southeast asia or a far away land, they're using them on their territory to defend their territory. we believe they're highly motivated to do this, and beyond being highly motivated, they have, to answer your question,

provided assurances to us. in terms of the ambassador's comments and other comments that have been bandied about, let me say, the use of cluster munitions by russia is completely unacceptable on multiple counts. first, they are using them to attack a sovereign country in flagrant violation of international law. second, they are using them specifically to strike after civilian targets, not only military targets. also in flagrant violation of international law, and with this weapons system as well as other weapons system, we have identified war crimes committed by the russians. third and critically, there is a big difference between the type of cluster munition being used by russia and the type we would provide to ukraine. as i mentioned before, ours have a maximum 2.5 dud rate. the dud rate of the russian munitions is between 30 and 40% and just so i don't get this wrong, i will read it to you, the department of defense assesses that during the first

year of the conflict alone, russian-fired cluster munitions, deployed from a range of weapons systems have likely expended tens of millions of sub munitions or bomblets in ukraine. the final point, when i talk about what russia is doing with cluster munitions, i'm not making an argument which says, they do it so we'll do. the argument i'm making is russia has already spread tens of millions of these bomblets across ukrainian territory, so we have to ask ourselves, is ukraine's use of cluster munitions on that same land actually that much of an additional of civilian harm given that their is going to have to be de-mined regardless. when we look at situation today as opposed to a year ago, and when we look at what ukraine o would be doing with these weapons as opposed to what russia is doing with these weapons, we see a substantial difference. it's doesn't make it an easy decision. it's a difficult decision.

it's a decision we deferred, a decision that required a real hard look at the potential harm to civilians. and when we put all of that together, there was a unanimous recommendation from the national security team and president biden ultimately decided in consultation with allies and partners, and members of congress to move forward on this step. >> are you satisfied with the pace and progress of the ukrainian counter offensive thus far? >> we get this question a lot. i'm not grading or judging the ukrainian counter offensive, i'm standing here in washington, d.c. i'm not on the battlefield, my life is not on the line. for me to sit here and say, i'm satisfied, i'm not satisfied, what i would say is it's hard going, the russians have dug in. they have thrown a lot of defense and manpower and munitions at this, and the ukrainians have bravely, systematically been punching forward, and we'll continue to do so. the ukrainians have a substantial amount of capacity. they have not yet committed to the fight. the story of the counter

offensive is far from written, and we'll continue to support ukraine along the way. >> ukraine provided written assurances for how they would use these munitions. can you provide more details on what are those assurances? >> they provided them in the context of the written request for these munitions. they reached out and requested them. i couldn't give the contact date. some weeks ago. the insurance they provided is they intend to use the munitions in a way to minimize exposure, and outside of areas that civilians traffic. that is to say on the battlefield where they are presently both trying to defend their territory, and to move forward. >> other specific locations, though, or to the administration, advise, you know, only use these munitions. >> this is an ongoing conversation. obviously the battlefield is shifting at all times, so it's impossible to set down a map, and define this with the level

of specificity that maybe your question implies. it does mean the conversation need to be ongoing, like every other weapons system we're providing ukraine. when ukraine provides assurances to the united states about use of munitions is followed through on that in terms of limitations on those. i want to underscore again, i know i sound like a broken record, but the idea that ukrainian men and women fighting for the armed forces of ukraine, want to willy nilly these in a way that's going to harm citizens, which is implied with questions. i find at odds with their desire to protect their countrymen and their willingness to protect their countrymen. >> follow up on ukraine, and then i have a second question related to that. is it the u.s. view that

president zelenskyy should attend the nato conference. >> we would welcome president zelenskyy at the nato summit. president biden would welcome the opportunity to meet president zelenskyy at the nato summit. it will dive into the question of nato's relationship with ukraine. and the question of an ongoing partnership that has existed for several years, and there will be important practical announcements in that regard at the summit, so president zelenskyy's attendance at it would be very much welcome. >> with respect to belarus, eastern european nations want nato allies to beef up their security on the eastern flank, especially with mr. prigozhin's exile, and into belarus, which shares a border with lithuania. is the u.s. announcing any new security guarantees at the summit? >> we have the ultimate security

guarantee for polandbaltic states. we intend to defend every inch of nato territory. we have put our money where our mouth is in terms of enhanced u.s. deployments in the baltic states. i had the opportunity to meet with my counter part with poland, the polish national security adviser. the first and main topic was the threat of the wagner group. and the assertions about potential deployments of nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus, and the role of belarus and complicity of belarus in russia's aggression in ukraine. these are things we have been taking account of going back to the start of this conflict, and we constantly look at everything from the positioning of nato

forces to preposition of various stocks and ammunition in the eastern flank. that will be a continued discussion, but this is an evolving picture, and so i don't think it's going to be the place we put the final store line down. it will continue to evolve. >> does the u.s. support eliminating the need for ukraine for membership action plan that establishes benchmarks they have to meet to qualify for nato membership? >> we are looking at that question. that's an active discussion among allies, whether ukraine has moved ahead of the need. that's under active consideration. >> just one on a bilat with erdogan, will this be like a full blown bilateral meeting to discuss sweden's nato membership. >> i don't have anything to announce today, but i think you can expect president biden and erdogan will talk. >> two questions, first on

munitions. germany has opposed them. does that suggest any cracks in the alliances to you? what do you think of that opposition? >> first, what i saw germany say today was three things, number one, they're confident that the united states took this decision carefully, and after weighing all considerations. number two, russia has used these in an intolerable way to attack ukraine, and three, every weapons system ukraine is using, it's using to defend itself people and retake it own sovereign territory. i think if you read what the german chancellor and spokesperson put out today, you will see that they are signatory to oslo. they don't transfer, they don't have or transfer cluster munitions, but nothing in what they have said today suggests there are any cracks. there's deep understanding, we believe, across the alliance about the fundamental challenge ukraine faces and about our collective desire to ensure we're providing ukraine with what it needs.

>> when it comes -- can you tell us specifically when the president signed the authorization, and also we have seen over the course of this war how there were some no-go topics, f-16s, cluster munitions, both of those are moving forward. is there a line where the u.s. won't cross? obviously the president has said no u.s. personnel inside ukraine. is there some other limit or does this suggest to president zelenskyy that whatever he needs, ultimately he will get? >> the president has been very clear from the beginning of the conflict about who things that have been unwavering, the united states is not going to war with russia in ukraine, and second, the united states is not providing weapons to ukraine to attack russia. we do not encourage or enable attacks on russian territory from ukraine. question of weapons systems has evolved as the conflict has e involved. those two precepts remained from

the smart. i can't give you the exact specifics on that. i'll let the internal processes kind of have their sanctity, but he approved it, as i said, after a unanimous recommendation from his national security team. >> you said that nato is stronger than ever at this point. what does it say that there are two nato members who have been holding up sweden's ability to join the alliance for more than a year now. >> the last nato ally to come into the alliance before finland, i believe it was montenegro, and i think it took something like 19 months for them to come in. i think a lot of people's perceptions about the process have been shaped by just how fast we moved to get sweden and finland ratified in the united states on a bipartisan basis, how fast finland came in, and then how it has only been a year

since sweden saw membership, and they will come in in the not too distant future, and there will be unanimous support for that. and in terms of what it says about nato's strength. here you have two historically nonaligned countries who for decades did not join nato, seeking to join nato. i think there is no clearer indication of the strength, attraction and cohesion of nato than that. >> i understand your point about reforms ukraine needs to do in order to fast track its membership. but just going kind of broader from that, my understanding is that a president believes that the fast track membership for ukraine is an invitation rather than a deterrence with russia. he has several times expressed concern for nuclear escalation. can you first confirm whether my understanding is correct and if so, can you explain the calculus

behind the president's position on that. what led him to that conclusion. >> the president has repeatedly said there's an open door, a pathway for ukraine, and that ukraine needs to take additional reforms to complete its work towards nato membership. that has been his position from the beginning. that remains true today. that will remain true. the president also has been clear that we are going to support ukraine for as long as it takes, and provide them an exceptional quantity of arms and capabilities both from ourselves and facilitating those from allies and partners, but that we are not seeking to start world war ii. that's the course we have been on since the start of the conflict and we believe we have been able to mount a vigorous dynamic in russia's aggression. >> former u.s. officials have held secret talks with ukraine,

with prominent russians to negotiations towards a peace deal? >> i appreciate this question because i think that reporting suggested something that in fact has not happened. my understanding is there was a meeting at the counsel on foreign relatives with the foreign minister of russia. that meeting did not include participation from the united states government. the united states government did not pass messages through that meeting. the united states government did not seek to pursue diplomacy, direct, indirect or otherwise through that meeting period. there are also contacts between private american citizens, and russians. that has been happening not just in the last year but for the last 75 years since time in memorial. the united states government is not using any of those contacts to pass messages, promote di diplomacy and anything to the contrary is untrue.

>> the prime minister kishida at the nato summit. do you know that yesterday to south korea, and he said that he will not take responsibility for this charge of the orders. what is the united states position on the iaea's report on the charge of -- from our perspective, the ieae secretary general's was on the international institution. i'll leave it at that. i would say that the rok government made its own statements in reaction to that which we thought were

constructive. >> very soon and get some answers. do you have any contents of this meeting, who is going to be attending this meeting? >> i don't have anything to announce today. will say, though, i spoke with my counter part last evening to discuss preparations for that meeting. it will be an important meeting. there will be high level participation by the united states because this is an important issue on which we place priority, and locking the nuclear consultative group is a specific outcome of the washington summit of president yuan and president biden, and you will see in this meeting that we are quite serious about taking this effort forward. last question. >> jake, five days after cocaine was found in the white house, congressional republicans seem like they're close to launch ago formal investigation. from a national security perspective, what was your reaction when the drugs were found, and b, was there risk to

security to the president, your staff, for this stuff to be so close to where you work? >> first, i would refer to the secret service when it comes to questions of the security of the president. i would make a point about the situation room because there's been questionable reporting. the situation room is not in use and has not been in use for months because it's currently under construction. we are using an alternate situation room in the eisenhower executive office building. the only people going in and out have been workers who are getting it ready to go. by the way, it's on time and on schedule to be back on station here in the not too distance future. but, no, there was no issue with the situation room relative to this. and then finally, we have rigorous drug testing policies at the white house. we have rigorous drug use policies here at the white house. we take those extremely seriously. we'll let the investigation unfold. if it involves someone from the

white house, the appropriate consequences will ensue. if it involves some visitor who came in and left it, that's a different matter that raises a different set of questions that are less relevant to my line of work. i'll leave it at that. i do not believe at present as things stand at the podium today that we're facing some ongoing national security threat. we're facing other national security threats. >> last one. secretary general stoltenberg said there's good progress towards people joining nato but there are still gaps. how would you assess the likelihood of an agreement on sweden's nato membership? >> i will make no predictions, i will say that president biden had the opportunity to meet with the swedish prime minister in washington to express his solidarity for its application for membership.

we believe sweden should be in as soon as as possible. it's possible that it doesn't happen until some period after but we believe it will happen in the not too distance future and that those gaps can be closed, everything can be resovled. there's fundamentally goodwill from all of the parties to get this done. it's a question of time. i can't predict whether that will happen next week or at some point in the ensuing weeks. with that, i said it was my last question. >> and there you have the white house briefing. karine jean-pierre heading back to the podium. you were listening to national security adviser jake sullivan talking about a number of issues not the least of which being the nato summit that will be held next week in lithuania, and notably talking about what the white house has announced which is that the u.s. will send the controversial cluster munitions to ukraine. many u.s. allies have banned that weaponry because they spread out over a large area. they often explode long after

they have been deployed. sometimes that puts civilians at risk. use of the bombs could change the balance on the battlefield and help ukraine breakthrough on the counter offensive, which president zelenskyy has conceded has not met the expectations. i'm joined by pentagon correspondent, courtney kube, and niara hawk former senior adviser in the obama white house. courtney, explain these cluster munitions, how they work and is this something you expect the pentagon to confirm in the briefing that's schedule about four minutes from now which you may have to rush off to. >> we expect the pentagon to confirm it now that the white house has said it, and we expect to hear more detail about it. officials are telling me there's upwards of 10,000 munitions. what these are is essentially a warhead or large shell.

when it explodes they release bomblets. they can be a shape charge, it's something that can pierce armor, so an up armored vehicle, they could blast right through it. another option is an anti-personnel option, and it's when the bomblet fragments into pieces and as it hits an individual, a body, it does more damage, frankly to the individual. it has a higher potential to wound or kill an individual. it is an anti-armor, and antipersonnel capability over a large area. ukraine has continued to have a difficult time maintaining its stockpile of artillery. this is something that can make up for the deficit. they're running through thousands of artillery rounds every single day in the fierce fighting, particularly as this counter offensive is really underway now. then we get to why this is a controversial munition, alex,

and that's because of the dud rate. we heard jake sullivan address it a little bit there. the dud rate is how many of these little bomblets could land somewhere without exploding. and the u.s. says that the munitions they're going to provide ukraine have a low dud rate, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 1/2 to 2.35%. much lower than what we have heard about in the past, much lower than the ones the russians may be using in ukraine as well. even with a low percentage chance of that, it's not today, not tomorrow on the battlefield, it's down the road if a munition is sitting there and someone finds it, and it blows up. land mines a shiny objects in the ground, it's kids who find them weeks, months, years after the fact. if the u.s. provides cluster munitions and ukraine uses them in the way they have promised to do, then there would have to be

a de-mining process that occurs in ukraine, whenever this war finally comes to an end, alex. >> courtney kube, thank you for explaining that. you have to rush off to the pentagon briefing. we heard jake sullivan say in the news conference, he said there are already tens of millions of these munitions, likely as a result of russia using these cluster munitions in ukraine, so it's already going to have to be de-mined as courtney was ironing out for us. do you think that's a level of logic or influence or suggestion that the united states used with the ally, look, it's there. we're going to have to de-mine anyway. obviously the ukrainians want to use this specifically and carefully because it's their own land they're having to use these munitions on. was that the selling point for

allies to come on board and say, okay, we'll support this move? >> the reality on the ground is that entire cities have disappeared. bakhmut might appear on maps, but there's nothing there that's a livable community. that's the message he's taking around europe, and now he will take to nato, the longest this war goes, the more advantage the russians have and on the earlier side about a year ago, the united states and nato were not as quick to provide the very specific type of weaponly that zelenskyy thought would be necessary. drones took a while. the idea of fighter jets is still under discuss, even when something gets a yes or congressional approval, we're talking weeks if not months, before it's affecting the reality on the ground. zelenskyy is in a fight for his homeland, for his people.

before you have the 1 or 2% dud rate being a question, you need to have a country that you can defend. >> i'm sorry for the brevity of our conversation, we will definitely have you back very soon. this was some breaking news to share with the white house press briefing. for all of you, the house freedom caucus has voted to oust marjorie taylor greene, but has she officially gotten the boot? we're going to head to capitol hill to find out. boot 'rwee going to head to capitol hill to find out ctor about brez. breztri gives you better breathing, symptom improvement, and helps prevent flare-ups. breztri won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. it is not for asthma. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. don't take breztri more than prescribed. breztri may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vison changes, or eye pain occur. if you have copd ask your doctor about breztri. - this is our premium platinum coverage map and this is consumer cellular's map. - i don't see the difference, do you?

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freedom caucus ranks, but it's unclear that they had the quorum, the numbers they would have needed to do that, in atypical fashion, greene is being silenced, as you mentioned, and now there's questions about whether or not the chairman of the caucus, scott perry has been able to get in touch with green to talk with her about this. apparently there were some missed calls, missed texts before the vote. certainly that's persisted after. we expect these two lawmakers are going to have a tet when they get back to town. i'll read a piece of the statement, i serve northwest georgia first and serve no group in washington. and then she sort of opaquely referenced the fact that the gop has less than two years to show america what a strong unified republican-led congress will do when president trump wins the white house in 2024. she says this is my focus, nothing else. it's important to point out what may have triggered this vote in the first place, which is fact that greene went from being a

flamethrower for people like kevin mccarthy to earlier this year, and the latest debt ceiling fight, and the fight with lauren boebert certainly didn't help. >> how much do you want to bet she's blocked scott perry's phone so he can't get the number, and he has to officially let her know. it's possible. just saying. don't you think? >> who knows. >> ali vitali, thank you for that. artificial intelligence has officially entered the 2024 republican presidential primary. take a look at this. this is a side by side of miami mayor and presidential candidate, francis suarez on the left and then an ai generated bot that looks and sounds just like him on the right. the bot was developed by a super pac, tgs sos america, designed to answer questions about its name sake conservative mayor's

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these new numbers play into the idea that the great resignation is ending. >> yeah, i think what we saw from today's numbers is that the jobs market in the u.s. is fundamentally solid, right, we're still adding jobs, the unemployment rate is still low. we're certainly not seeing the recession that people keep predicting, but it is slower, right? people are changing jobs much less often. we're not seeing that surge of millions of people changing jobs that we were seeing in 2021, early 2022, and that suggests that this sort of moment of worker power that we've seen over the last few years could be in some jeopardy. >> and i think here is the why behind it, potentially because in your piece, you've written about a couple where the wife left her job waiting tables to open her own photography business during the pandemic, but now she's questioning whether her dream is even sustainable. i mean, have you heard a lot of stories like that? >> yeah, i think we have.

you know, i think that the phrase great resignation sort of calls to mind this idea of people going to the beach or like rethinking their priorities, something like that. but that's really not what it was. it was people who were leaving jobs, mostly to take other jobs, usually better jobs. sometimes it was people like the woman in my piece, aubrey, who are going to start their own business. sometimes it was people moving into industries that maybe were going to pay a little bit better or give them better opportunities, and sometimes it was just people moving within the industry but moving into better paying jobs, and i think we saw a lot of people saying hold on a second. there are a lot of jobs out there, there are, you know, there's more demand for workers than workers available. these jobs are not very much fun, customers are being difficult. earlier on, right, there was the real covid risk. workers flexed those muscles a little bit. it brought real dividends, real

wage gains among some of the lowest paid workers. the concern is now, you hear this talk about a recession. you see a bit of a slow down, maybe workers start to get nervous about whether that's sustainable. >> and you heard about how something has changed, the lasting thing being the behavior. real quick, what does that mean for the economy? >> i think that that's the sort of optimistic spin on this. one possibility is oh, no, workers are getting nervous, they have to stay put. the other possibility is that workers learned something, they learned that they have some influence, they have some power, and that if they -- if the job doesn't work for them, make they can go find another one, and that could allow to keep those wages a little bit higher and maybe, you know, somewhat less unequal economy as the economy cools. >> ben castleman of the "new york times," many thanks for that. and that does it, everyone, for this hour. make sure to join us for "chris

jansing reports" every weekday from 1:00 to 3 on msnbc, and i'll see you tomorrow at noon and 1:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. ♪♪ good to be with you. i'm katy tur. there is a grab bag of political news today, a number of headlines that could be foreshadowing something to come. starting with kevin mccarthy. the house speaker notably has not endorsed donald trump for president, at least not yet. why? then there's marjorie taylor greene, the representative from georgia was kicked out of the house freedom caucus nearly two weeks ago. why? and why are we only finding out about it now? and president biden amid all the turmoil around the gop, the president is steadily campaigning on bidenomics, talking about lower health care costs at the white house. the polls aren't exactly