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state representative on promo oklahoma in just a few minutes. it is an outrage at best. we will be dealing with it so thank you symone. the fabulous simone, i am always happy to have you bring on politicsnation. good evening and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead has state days ahead. just moments ago, president biden arrived in the united kingdom. ahead of an intense few days of critical meetings with nato leaders, leading up to wednesday's nato summit in lithuania. all of this as war continues to rage in ukraine and ina rest
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grips france. here at home, republicans seeking to defeat the president in next year's election are refining their tactics on the campaign trail. with presumed front runner, over the gop, donald trump. donald trump betting on expanding his electoral base by campaigning this weekend and nevada. a state that he lost twice. trump and other republicans continuing to double down on cultural issues to rally gop voters. oklahoma's education chief is still under fire for his insensitive comments about the destruction of a black community by a white barber a century ago. the timing could not be worse. as the last three known survivors of the tulsa race massacre where denied justice and restitution by the city of tulsa. thanks to a district court ruling two days ago.
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got a busy week ahead for the country, lots to cover, let's get started. joining me now is the oklahoma state representative richina good when, a democrat. representing tulsa oklahoma, thank you for your time tonight. we begin in your tulsa district where three last known living survivors of the 1921 tulsa race massacre where denied restitution friday. one of them was just with me at national x network, 32 saturdays ago. a tulsa county district, court judge dismissing their suit. pressing for compensation under a law, allowing plaintiffs to sue when an entire community is harmed. of course, that is precisely what happened in may of 1921. when an estimated 300 people
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were killed as a thriving black community was destroyed at the hands of a white mob that rampage for two days at the city of tulsa's request. friday's ruling dismissed the plaintiffs case, quote with prejudice meaning that it cannot be refiled. when the city arguing and part at quote simply being connected to historical event does not provide a person with on the minute rights to seek compensation for any project in any way related to that historical event. and quote. now, the three plaintiffs may still appeal. your response tonight state representative? what do you say about this ruling? >> first of, all appreciate you shining a light on this issue. first, of all it is despicable that after more than two years we are at the same place where we were 102 years ago.
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i'm a descendant of race massacre survivors and for that to be the decision, clearly is wrong. and as you are with miss fletcher and we certainly speak on mr. alice and miss randall, 109 years old and she is still waiting on justice. it was the wrong decision, it's a moral, it's despicable and this is the first time we have been through this. it is long. >> i don't understand the city saying acting like well, you can't just because you were somehow connected. they survived, it they were kids. miss fletcher, mother fletcher was at the network because she has a book out of her experiences. that trauma, the horror they went through. what do you menu are somehow connected? >> and first, of all it's just not some incident, it was murder. it was mayhem, homes were burned, livelihoods were taken. people were murdered. white folks murdered black folk
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so you are, right it was not just an incident. it wasn't somehow they were connected, they survived it and they still experience the trauma today. as much as the community does, so you are absolutely right. they are glad, away they're dismissive way of talking about this, one of the most heinous crimes in america. it is ongoing harm and it was the wrong decision and again, we don't have misplace expectations but at some point, justice to be served and you have three seniors, treasures that did not. they were not even allowed their day in court. that makes no sense. >> now at the same time, those of us outside your state we're learning about the survivors being denied restitution. your state's top education official, ryan walters was undefiled for his comments about the tulsa massacre. made at a town hall meeting on thursday night during which he said teacher should cover the
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massacre without suggesting it was racially motivated. watched him what invoke critical race theory. now walters has since walked back his comments insisting that the mob that burned down the greenwood community in 1921 that so not because they were white but because they were racist. that is your state superintendent of public instruction. i wonder what you've heard from black parents and the tulsa district this weekend, senator? >> first of all, again despicable comments. this is a man who used to teach history, that is dangerous. absolutely the race massacre tied the, race that is why they call it the tulsa race massacre. that's why white mobs came and racist white mobs came in and murdered black folks. destroying homes, the destruction was robbed by racist white folks. he has difficulty even uttering those words. he even talked when he walked a,
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back he talked about the incident was racist. we want ryan walters to understand that the educated on the fact, that racist white folks brought the havoc and destruction and greenwood in 1921. it came into history we would hope that he would take the time to read a book and understand that. but racism is alive and well even today and we still send the repercussions of racism even today. so it is unfortunate that he is in that position, he is not fit to serve at all. >> now, last week and we had on politicsnation, the chair of california's reparations task force. a few days after it turned out, it turned and i should say. it's to your final report to the state assembly of california and they will now consider its proposals for preparative justice for a black residents. and then last night on the show, we had the kansas city mayor,
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quinton lucas who recently convened his own commission on reparations. kansas city now joining several american cities who have taken a preparations in some fashion over the last few years. as we watch the survivors of the tulsa race massacre be denied restitutions what are your thoughts on this piecemeal push for reparations and how it relates to tulsa then and now? >> so i would say that in 2001, we had thanks to -- senator maxine warner, we had race mask or study at commissioner. report in that report there were five other nations. i have for four years tried to get through that legislative biden state house to address the status of where we are since that report was done. and that report, reparations were recommended. economic developments, scholarships, if we were to find remains of our decease
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that they might be having provided a decent crisis. all of that was recommended in 2001. i have been denied, even having a hearing to talk about the status of where we are and what progress can be made today. so as it relates to other cities that at least are making progress, somehow oklahoma does not want to deal squarely with the issue of reparations, restitutions and reclamation's. all that we can call, it somehow oklahoma wants to look the other way. you can't look the other way, we are here. their descendants are, here we have the fall reporter fletcher, miss bedingfield, mr. handled, mr. cuban ellis, we owe it to them and we owe it to the descendants to keep fighting the good fight. again, this is the third time that we have been denied and we know we are on the side of right. we are, no and what is a take for a judge in for court to affirm that?
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it has been the hundred and two year old challenge. >> we certainly will keep the eye on this and certainly stand touch with mother fletcher and of course doctor and other side of worked in this area, including doctor tiffany clutch. all of the clutcher family. so thank you state representative, regina good for being with us. joining me now is the dean of the south carolina congressman, jim clyburn who is the house democratic assistant leader. thank you for being with us. first congressman, let me start with the president. president biden has already landed this hour for a multinational european tour, centering on wednesdays nato summit in less waning. where he is expected to make the case that nato and other
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western nations step up with their support for ukraine in its defensive war against russia. pointing to the recent tensions inside russia as evidence that the administration strategy is working. some congressional republicans have expressed skepticism about the u.s. continuing to support ukraine with arms and funding. raising concerns that a republican presidential when next year may signal to end of that support. what would that mean for the country and the world from your view, congressman clyburn? >> well thank you very much for having me. to begin, of the two people that i pay a lot of attention to when it comes to these issues. one of course is our mutual friend, gregory meets. on the democratic side and my electoral on the republican side. i am in complete agreement with
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him. he made it very clear the statements today not what is going on in ukraine and between them and russia, it is something that we ought to be involved in, we ought to be given every bit of support that we possibly can to ukraine. and to do that, president biden is trying to hold the nato alliance together. that is what is critical to be successful with this effort. they administration did everything he possibly could to undermine, undercut and even dismantle nato. that is not the way to go. we are a pond of the world at large. this country needs to be active concert with our allies, across the world. around the world and we need to
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be on the side of ukraine and i think biden has done a great job of keeping us together. being successful because of it. were it not for president biden, i do not believe ukraine would be standing today. it is standing, standing tall and now in the second year of this conflict and we need to continue to support them with everything that we possibly can. >> now let's say with president biden for a moment. he was in your state this week, congressman. tying the economic successors of his bidenomics. and the case of south carolina, that includes nearly 14 million, with the b dollars in infrastructure and clean energy investments to the state under this administration. the visit came just ahead of the release of june's job report. showing some 209,000 jobs added to the u.s. economy last month.
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adding to the one, to the 14 million jobs created under breath president biden. how do you access our economic strength right now as we head into an election year? >> well thank you very much for being in that rough. like this economy is going great guns. this president came into office, we all know what we are trying to do coming out of covid-19. this president took the bull by the horns, he passed the american rescue plan. to ask you this economy and then he aided to that, the infrastructure bill which is a bipartisan deal. he added to that with the chips incise act. itself was bipartisan. then he came with an all-democratic bill which was the inflation reduction act. and then he did that community, safer communities, act the pact act. the six pieces of legislation
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are working in tandem to put the economy where it ought to be. south carolina, there is one report i read that we are number six of the 50 states benefiting from this program. from bidenomics. now let's take a look at what bidenomics is all about. it is all about laying the foundation upon which we can build from the bottom up. it is all about putting in place opportunities that allow us to expand from the middle out. this old trick or down, economics that we have been west for so many years has never worked. it is not working, it will not work and the president biden is demonstrating that this is the way to go. unemployment in this country is at a 50-year low. south carolina unemployment is lower than the nation's unemployment.
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this is a rare straight. this president has made it very clear that he is going to feel what is necessary for all americans and respective of whether or not you voted for him. south carolina did not give his electoral votes to joe biden. joe biden is sure giving a lot of good attention to south carolina and a lot of other red states as well. >> now the presidents visit to south carolina was cast by some ponds as a bid to restore some of the support polls showing he has lost some black voters. in a state that played a massive role in reinvigorating his 2020 white house bid. largely because of you, and has been two weeks since our supreme court ruled against race based affirmative action. their presidents plan to reduce student debt which black borrowers disproportionately struggle with. do you see black voters, a call
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of the democratic base in honor just over those decisions, in turning out next year to reelect president biden? >> i think we will do things with the economy say, especially student debt relief. he, as we have got to rally people around the fact that we have a supreme court, it seem not to want to respect the history of this country and the things that need to be done for us to overcome much of the history. and so when it comes to student, that the support did knock down the presidents attempts with as it relates to the program of other things. what is not been talked about is the fact that this president has reinvigorated the public service debt relief program over 11 billion dollars. it is gone out too and i think i saw a number saying 355,000 people who borrowed money and
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because they had worked for ten years, and bob look service jobs, they are now having their debt canceled. in fact, just today i was in the low country. in fact it was at the church that implemented -- i had serving for them today. the young man who is driving me today said to me he just got a letter that $80,000 in debt that he had because he has been working for law enforcement for more than ten years, he just got that 80,000 notice, the $80,000 and that would be relieved. they will be eliminated. that is the thing we are not talking about. this is what this president has done, everybody keeps focusing on that part of that relief that the supreme court is keeping him from doing. less incentive at the positives here that talks about what has gotten done.
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and i think that this is a great record for this president to run on. these are the two things that will be saying to folks. the elected president and he will get more public service that relief as well as you will find ways for -- >> that is something i've not heard a lot of people bringing up. let me ask you this quickly because i'm out of time. last month, our conservative majority supreme court ruled against alabama's congressional map. drawn by its republican dominated state legislature, three years ago. the court ruling that it reduced the electoral prowl of the states with black voters. it violation of the voting rights act. also less well, the court dismissed louisiana effort to prevent its voting map from being withdrawn. possibly leading to the addition of another majority black district. the issue of voting maps in
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southern states facing high court challenges recently in alabama, louisiana, north carolina, it just appears that the gop continues to do whatever they can, wherever they can in terms of voter suppression. your thoughts? i am out of time, i just wanted your thoughts on that quickly. >> i applaud the supreme court in that area. i am very glad to see that they are playing close attention to the fact that in the, states with a population of 25 and 30% of african american and yet we see all of the gerrymandering that keeps a representation down to only one token district. alabama, louisiana, north carolina, and south carolina is on that list as well. i am very hopeful that the decision that the district gave in south carolina will be supported by the supreme court going forward. we will see the redrawing of lives in south carolina as
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well. >> i am sure we are talking to you either way about it as we always try to. thank you south carolina, congressman jim clyburn. after the break, we are going to need more than thoughts and prayers. what it will really take for america to rise up against gun violence. once and for all, and former president trump's bizarre pitch to nevada voters, it involves beach front property? we'll explain what our political panel joins us. for as my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. richard? >> raf, good sunday to you. some of the stories we are watching 53 million people from north carolina to new hampshire are under flood alerts today. look at the flooding in the town of norman, oklahoma. the southern half of the country, also has more extreme heat. that heat index and summer spots could reach a size 115 degrees. police are searching for a gunman who opened fire in a group of people in cleveland.
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nine people were injured before fleeing. no fatalities, police are now offering a reward of up to $5,000 for tips. and a family dispute over a legendary singer, aretha franklin's final wishes heads to court tomorrow. it comes down to two. wills one found in a, couch the other found at a cabinet. since franklin died in 2018 of cancer, her sons of battle to divider estimated 80 million dollar estate. more politicsnation with reverend al sharpton for you after the break. r the break. introducing the limited edition disney collection from blendjet. nine exciting designs your whole family will adore blendjet 2 is portable, which means you can blend up nutritious smoothies, protein shakes, or frozen treats, just about anywhere!
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gun violence across the country, over july 4th weekend they were as many as 17 mass shootings leaving at least 18 people, dead more than 100 people are injured. this weekend, the mayhem continues. yesterday a man was arrested and, queens new york after police say he was firing shots
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at random people from his scooter, killing one and winning three others. the gun violence archive says there has been at least 367 mass shootings this year. putting that country on pace to talk even the alarmingly high totals of the past three years. there should not be the new normal. we have the right to be safe at school, at work, while shopping or spending time with friends and family, in a public space. my capacity had of national action network have joined lawmakers from both sides of the aisle and calling for improved policing and public safety measures. but to make our streets truly secure, we must not only add more train cops, we must stop the flow of guns. take a listen to what kansas city, mayor quentin lucas had to say on this program just
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yesterday about the cities most plagued by gun violence in this country. >> it is placed and often a blue, dots and red states are often where we have stark differences in poverty each and every day. my, based tennessee, st. louis, my city of kansas city that candidate to be at the top of this list. not, new york chicago or los angeles. so i think when you are seeing, that is in jurisdictions where they have the ability to make strong interventions where they actually are able to take guns off of the streets, arrest people who are trafficking guns. whether local police departments can work with groups like the atf and state attorney generals who are more interested and actually fighting crime then they are getting the headlines. if >> we're on independence day, president biden called on congress to pass further gun restrictions. why near after signing the first major gun safety bill in nearly 30 years. in addition to bans on assault
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weapons and high capacity magazines, the white house is asking for safe gun storage requirements. universal background checks and an anti gun manufacturer's immunity from liabilities from tragedies caused by their deadly products. nine of this is likely to pass republicans control the house. rather than let that discourage us, we should use it as political ammunition in 2024 because the gun issue is a silver rights issue as well. black americans experience 12 times the gun homicides and 18 times the gun assault injuries as whites, according to everytown. we cannot have justice without peace. we must rise up and demand politicians heat our calls to stem the tide of fire arms into our communities, so we can walk the streets without fear.
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let's now bring in our political panel. donna edwards of former democratic congresswoman and republican -- an msnbc contributor and political strategist. let me start with this, president biden touched down just about a half hour ago in the uk for european visit. that will include attending, a 2023 nato summit starting on tuesday. ahead of the meeting the president saying in an interview, ukraine is not ready for a nato membership, adding russia's war with ukraine must be resolved before the matter can be considered. , donna what should we be
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watching for from the president on this trip? >> well first of, all i don't think that we should read anything into the president's comments about ukraine. i think that was fully expected given the diversity of opinions about ukraine membership in nato. about what we will see is a further guarantee and bolstering of support for ukraine among the and among member nations to nato. and i think the world and united states and nato are fully committed to seeing that ukraine wins this war against russia. that commitment is going to be bolstered by resources by equipment by weaponry. by training and that will continue. >> this, weekend the iowa republican party announced it will hold its presidential
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caucus on january 15th of next year. that is an earlier start to election season that we saw in 2020 or 2016, wreck. do you think this will have an impact on the dynamics of the race where so far, former president donald trump appears to hold a commanding lead in the polls? >> well, raf good to be with you. i was gone early, 2008 was much earlier. i don't think one state will have a different. what will make a big difference though is march 5th, super tuesday which i think 30 states are participating, and including texas and california. that front loading will favor people who have the most money. clearly, donald trump because even an insurgent candidate begins to take off and the money starts to come, and they can't raise it fast enough and spend it fast enough to get to the next state.
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so the front loading is really going to favor donald trump. >> rick speaking of former president trump who is in nevada last night rallying his supporters in a state. he lost two presidential elections. his sales pitch to voters was a bit unusual, take a listen. >> you have the sun to, but you don't have the ocean. i can tell. you definitely don't have the ocean. maybe someday you can have the ocean, you never know. >> now, we all know trump is no environmentalist but those comments can't be too comforting to the tens of millions of americans living in the west and dealing every day with rising temperatures, droughts and wildfires brought on by climate change, rick. with >> well donald trump, he is extremely unconsciousness. he doesn't write speeches, he
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doesn't leave speeches and these rallies. it is just a show and a situation, and it cruises that donald trump and a no idea what he's talking about half the time. and he's looking for reaction from the crowd, and then elastic it's going. it is all pure entertainment. there is nothing to do with solving the country's problems. >> don, of the story caught my eye. political reports eight republican led states are scrambling to keep their vote, or the roles of today after they back out of nonpartisan program to fight voter fraud. the electronic registration information center is designed to catch double voters. some were claiming that because democrats were also involved, it was a two for liberals to take over elections. republicans have been claiming they want to restore confidence in elections but doesn't this
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move actually undermine that effort? >> well it really, does you no wrap i'm part of the national council and election integrity, we warned weeks ago that this would be a real problem in terms of fighting voter fraud and the integrity of the elections. what erik does is that it helps to validate whether that somebody voted in one state so that they don't vote in another state. it is a very bipartisan system. it has been in place for years and undermining that, actually exposes those states to more fraud. to people voting and one, state and living at not another. it also exposes the united states election system to disinformation and fraud and foreign sources. this was a really boneheaded move by the part of these republican states. i don't know how they will verify their election systems. >> rick, your reaction to this
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decision by these republicans? >> it is nonsense, reverend and people undermine elections and the system that we have and there is no different than a republic or the tyranny people so-called conservatives want to go and undermine elections and the system was designed to catch nothing and what they said was the problem. now voter fraud are so, rare and it's almost miniscule and the national level and you want to catch people who voted twice and this is the way to do it. so we should not be politicizing elections because it is very dangerous. this and why we should not be accusing people because we feel like there is fraud. we go and say it and then show nothing in court. you can't rely society and there is no burden of proof. there has to be proof. you can safely like he robbed a liquor store and then police
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arrest you. you have to show proof. there has been no proof. >> all right donna edwards and rick tyler, thank you both for being with us this evening. coming up, twitter takes a tumble in popularity. new social sites are looking to fill the void, with one aiming to create a digital space for people of color. more on that after the break. that after the break and he's in it to win it. simparica trio is the first and only chew with triple protection. oh, fleas and ticks ♪♪ intestinal worms... wow heartworm disease, no problem with simarica trio. this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions including seizures. use with caution in dogs with a history of these disorders. for winning protection. go with simparica trio. lila: before i was diagnosed, there was nothing really to worry about.
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it has been a week of upheaval in the world of social media. on wednesday, night social media giant meta, announced and launch threats,, it's a long anticipated alternative to twitter which quickly drew more than 30 million synapse in under 24 hours. the launch comes days after elon musk twitter's announced significant user limitations on its platform. elected temporarily inaccessible for many users. joining me now to talk about it is job or step, barry editor for msnbc opinion. thank you for being with us today jarvis. let me go with this. let me start with this. can you start by further explaining our audience about
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this week's newest platform called threads. what is it? and why should they care about it? >> ah yeah thread shed you mention as a product of meta which is mark zuckerberg, but you know strata an actual physical fight with elon musk and this is a fight indifferent way. it is much more significant, not just those two parties but also those in general. grads will be kind of an instagram alternative. to twitter which allows you to make short post, and follow others making political commentary. this is really an intrusion of sorts in two mosques territory. and on his own turf. indirectly challenging elon musk in this particular arena. >> as we mentioned the launch of threats comes during a period of upheaval for twitter, the social media platform best
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known as a forum for breaking news and political discourse, since elon musk took over the platform last year, hate speech has exploded on the platform. moscow's made a series of heavy-handed moves to cut costs and push users towards playing for the service. what is your take on what has been happening there and why? >> i'm glad you use the word taits beach that has exploded. obviously, that doesn't mean that the hate speech isn't already there. and we know that it was there and was a lot of toxic behavior that you could find on twitter but we didn't get the sense then that the owner and the ceo, the chief person tweeted was cheering on the masses, cheering on the negativity. during on the toxic behavior, whether it was racist or homophobic or a transphobic or anti immigrant or whatever the case was. elon musk has put himself in
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the center of the toxic, violent behavior that so many people wanted to get away from. you know, we expect it, most of us expect that when we go into certain places online, that we are not going to be pilloried by people or just attacked by folks. elon musk under the guides of being a free speech advocate has basically opened the doors and said, oh you want to insult someone and call them out of their name. or use hateful terms or attack people, i am okay with that. and so that has really a problem war than anything people heading for the exits and looking for alternatives. rather than a new alternative to twitter, is that called spill. which has to black founders and has been climbing up the rankings of apples a ppp store. spill is pitching itself as a
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safe space for black users who are turned off by the racism and hate speech they have seen on twitter. what would it take for and map like that to succeed in your opinion? participation, mainly. and the question now is whether so called black twitter can actually migrate to a different platform. i do appreciate hearing one of the cofounders of spill, i think it was mr. terrell who said that black people, in particular, have often been the users who bring a certain pizzazz, for lack of a better word, or swag is probably better, to a platform. and yet, they are the people who tend to catch the most hate and disrespect. the idea here is to create some other space. i signed up for it two days ago, rev, and i can say that right
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now, it feels like you've gotten to the party on time, but not when things are dropping off. people are trying to migrate there, but it hasn't gotten to that point yet where you can say, okay, this is where i'm going to be. not only do you have a bona fide, established mega billionaire in zuckerberg who is setting another platform. you also have this new upstart, but i think people are really frustrated. we want to get our jokes off on social media, but we don't want to feel like we are being attacked for our identity. so i think they are trying to go in that direction. travis, thank you very much for being on and giving us some insight.
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barack obama won ohio, and therefore would be the first black president. reverend raphael warnock was now the senator for the state of georgia. i think about the pain and suffering the king family has gone through, the assassination of dr. king. the abuse, the media attacks. with dignity and a regal bearing, some of the kings were not out front. but they all stood shoulder to shoulder, martin luther king gave the world a dream.
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