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turkey dropped its year long objection. >> adding finland and sweden to nato is consequential. i still think that president putin thinks -- not going to do that. >> the question now facing nato leaders, should they welcome ukraine next even as russia wages war on that country. also ahead, historic flooding, vermont's capital surrounded by water. take a look at this. there is still danger this flooding could get even worse in the coming hours. and later details of the grand juries being seated today in georgia that could decide whether donald trump will be indicted over 2020 election interference in that state. so a lot to talk about. let's begin with the historic nato summit unfolding across the atlantic. next hour we are expecting a bilateral meeting with president biden and turkish president
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erdogan there in lithuania. this will be an important one to watch. after turkey dropped its objections allowing sweden to join this alliance. sweden's leader, part of this big group photo taken just a short time ago, and we have all of our experts and analysts standing by to discuss this and more. let's start in lithuania, with nbc's josh lederman. as we get ready for president biden to have his bilat with erdogan, who are you learning about what changed erdogan's mind with sweden and what it means for the nato alliance? >> reporter: well, officially, ana, the countries involved including the u.s., turkey and sweden are saying they were able essentially to resolve turkey's long-standing concerns about arms exports from sweden as well as counterterrorism in that country. but we know that behind the scenes there has been a lot of wrangling with turkey, really having two demands they put forward to acquiescesweden
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entering nato. they want a quick entrance for turkey into the eu and while the united states and the nato secretary-general are insisting these issues are not linked, there is not essentially a trade going on here, we have heard from the white house since this deal was announced saying they fully support selling those f-16s to turkey and moving forward with that, that's up to congress at this point. we also heard sweden saying they are going to fully support turkey entering into the eu. you see some of the machinations taking place behind the scenes. we expect to hear more from president biden who has called this agreement historic about sweden entering nato when he meets with president erdogan shortly. in the meantime, we're also hearing from white house national security spokesman john kirby about what it will mean to have this added member of the nato alliance. take a listen. >> this is a very capable
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military, strong, modern, technologically agile and adept to military that we in the united states know how to operate and train with. they're going to bring to the alliance very, very short order a lot of significant capability to help bolster nato's eastern flank. it is a big -- it is a big development. >> reporter: but at the same time that we are seeing nato celebrate the addition of this newest member expanding once again nato's territory in the light of aggression -- from russia towards ukraine, we're also seeing this deep disagreement at this nato summit about whether to let ukraine into the alliance. and president zelenskyy of ukraine has made clear that he's extremely aggravated by the resistance for nato to quickly let his country into nato, calling it unprecedented and absurd. he's raising the prospect that these nato allies are holding out so that they can later bargain away with russia whether ukraine should be allowed into
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the alliance. in the meantime, we heard from the ukrainian government saying that they will be represented at this nato summit. the big question is what exactly will president zelenskyy and his colleagues say? >> josh, thank you for that update from the nato summit. let's turn to our panel now with former democratic congresswoman and former president and ceo of the woodrow wilson center jane harman, senior fellow at the chicago council for global affairs elizabeth shackelford and peter baker, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," someone with a lot of experience in russia, he used to be the bureau chief there for "the washington post." thank you all for joining us. so, jane, russia is already responding to these developments this morning by saying they will, quote, take appropriate action and that they would protect their own security interests. do you think the introduction of sweden to nato and this show of unity is giving any pause to president putin? >> probably not. but it should. he is delusional about what is
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going on in ukraine and the fact that he is driven 32 countries, 32, 3-2, countries together with increased defense expenditures, another thing announced today, for their solidarity against russia. it is a big deal. president biden deserves a victory lap here, given the fact that when he became president the prior president had basically dissed nato, saying he wasn't sure that we would observe article five, the common defense provision, and was blaming all these nato countries for not spending enough on defense. now we have increased expenditures and increased alliance, a unified view against russia, and i'm sure you're going to ask all of us about what we think about ukraine getting into nato. i continue to think that's a little tricky since its borders are being disputed by russia and
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it is at war with russia. the whole point of article five is that countries who are at war deserve common defense and the effort these -- this past 16 months has been to avoid a war, extended war with russia. >> you're right, that is a big topic of conversation that i want to ask elizabeth about here. and as we do, i want to show again that map because it is stark to see how many countries are in green in this region that are all members of the nato alliance right now. and you can see there is just a couple of blue areas that have applied for membership or want to apply for membership, including sweden, and then ukraine is the other big one that is right up against the russian border. when the secretary of state antony blinken was asked this morning on nbc about ukraine's potential membership, here's his response. >> in the midst of a war,
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membership can't happen, but they made real progress and the alliance will lay out the further reforms, both in terms of their security work and their democracy that are necessary to keep moving down that path. >> elizabeth, how do you weigh nato's clear desire to protect ukraine but also try not to antagonize putin to the point where he may do something extreme? >> well, that seems to be what is the debate is focusing on a lot. the point we're missing is whether it is in ukraine's and nato's best interest, irregardless of the response by russia, for us to ukraine on a specific and clear path toward membership. from the ukraine perspective, we know there is very strong interest, i think there would be a big morale boost to be saying, yes, when the war is over, you will be on a path and here is the criteria and here is how it will work and there are a number of nato members who are interested in that. i think if we're considering now, we're not in the position where we were in 2008 when nato membership was first dangled in front of ukraine and georgia. the idea was how do you prevent
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a war. right now we're in a war. the question is what would that kind of messaging have on putin's decisions or pathways toward an end to this current war. and i think there would be a big obstacle. the chicago council on global affairs this week is going to be releasing new survey data we did with the last remaining independent polling organization in russia and seven in ten russians according to this survey have said that preventing ukraine from joining nato is a top justification, a top benefit of russia's current war with ukraine, and that -- and that ukraine's membership in nato would be a threat to russia. so if you think about that, you know, just really practically speaking, what it becomes is an obstacle to putin ultimately accepting peace at any point because -- and it changes the calculation of the russian people and the russian political class, over whether or not they're willing to back putin in this war. if we look at it from that perspective, it doesn't help us get to the end of the war and doesn't offer any concrete benefits to ukraine in the
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meantime. if you balance that, the nato allies should be considering how it will impact that outcome and putin's willingness to end the war. >> peter, beyond article five and this ongoing war and the thought being you can't allow ukraine into the war, because we're all at war, is it clear what else ukraine may need to prove to be allowed into the nato alliance? >> look, it is important you heard president biden talk about democracy as well as security because in fact ukraine is not a perfect moxie and doesn't have a long track record of european style democracy. it has been a pretty tumultuous place and a lot of corruption and still has a lot to prove. it is obviously proven its courage and its desire to be its own independent country and it impressed the world with that. but if it were not at war right now, the question is would this system as it currently stands in ukraine meet the standards that nato asks for in a democratic
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country joining the alliance. and that's i think the question that the president is raising, he mentions that, because it really has not been a topic of much conversation when its very existence seems to be, of course, on the table given russia's invasion. so he's telling them, look, you know, we're on your side, but that doesn't mean that there aren't some requirements you have to meet in order to be part of this alliance. >> just going back to this -- go ahead. >> i just want to push back a little bit on my good friend peter's comment. and that is because corruption has been a huge problem in ukraine. the kleptocracy seeped over from russia into ukraine and most of its former leaders were quite corrupt. however, zelenskyy has removed some of his own senior leaders for corruption reasons and i think he's making a huge effort to clean the place up and i don't think anyone is claiming he's personally corrupt. and let's compare to other members of nato. i wouldn't say hungary or poland
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are perfect democracies and i wouldn't say the united states is a perfect democracy either. so, just saying, i don't think the test is quite that. i think the problem is, as elizabeth said, and i said, that there is war going on, disputed boundaries and the goal is to get to a win for ukraine against russia and then obviously have ukraine become part of a 33-member alliance to block russian aggression ever again. >> peter, any other thoughts on that before i move on? >> no, no, i wouldn't disagree with any of that. i think that's right. there is going to be a test for ukraine in the next year because they are in a war state. and they have consolidated their media into a single state entity right now. the question is whether they're going to go forward with elections next year. no question zelenskyy made real progress, at least as judged by western analysts in terms of cracking down on corruption. it is just -- it is an endemic problem there and there is
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concern about where it would go from here. >> quickly if you will, elizabeth, i do wonder, are there any other potential issues that would suggest there are cracks in the alliance? we talked about cluster munitions and the controversial decision of the u.s. to send those cluster bombs to ukraine to aid in this fight. and several of the allies actually banned the use of these weapons. anything that you see that could be a potential challenge for making this group stay together in a very united front? >> i think that the group is doing a really very solid job of maintaining a lot of unity. they're not going to be unified around everything. the language they're parsing out over what kind of offer they give to ukraine is a great example. they're kind of coming down to the least common denominator because they can't come up with a solid uniform position. i think that cluster munitions, you're seeing some pushback from our allies which is very valid. i think it is a more short-term
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view of trying to address short-term issues without a full consideration of what the long-term costs could be. but that said, these are very difficult decisions and i think there is a level of accepting that the united states is taking the lead in what we're providing to ukraine and so there is a higher level of tolerance of what the u.s. decides to do. i'm happy to see that members of the alliance are demonstrating that they don't necessarily approve of that. and, you know, at the end of the day, if that does prove very helpful in this counteroffensive, there is just going to be -- have to be a huge investment in the cleanup because they have generational impact on civilians and that's one of the reasons why so many countries around the world have -- >> the u.s. said they are ready to respond in that way after this war is over. thank you, all, so much for the conversation. jane harman, elizabeth shackelford and peter baker, really appreciate it. when we're back in 60 seconds, catastrophic flooding in the northeast. we're in vermont where rivers are rising and dams are under pressure. plus, more potential charges for donald trump.
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kristen, do we even know the scope of the damage yet? i see residents are trying to assess, it appears. >> reporter: yeah, we actually have some rescue operations going on. i'll step out of the way so you can see, some swift water rescue boats that are going in so they are checking out any calls they're getting from residents, things -- actually as far as the water goes -- have been looking a little bit better. we're starting to see it recede, but there are still a lot of people who are trapped state wide. we have seen dozens of rescues. this is still a very serious situation. take a look. overnight, an emergency unfolding in vermont's capital city, the river cresting at 21 feet, inundating the streets with water. the catastrophic floods are the worst in decades. the national weather service says the river has reached major flood stage, a serious threat to life and property.
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across the state, the view from overhead showing entire towns devastated. >> report of a vehicle submerged under water with the headlights on. they believe it may be occupied. >> reporter: this as more than 50 people had to be plucked from the raging rivers by swift water rescue teams. property destroyed, you can see here remains from a house sent floating down a stream monday afternoon. entire communities still cut off by flash floods. >> no way, bro. no! no! >> this is an all hands on deck response. >> reporter: it is the same system that crippled new york state. >> there's no words. just even unbelievable doesn't explain it. >> reporter: while cleanup is just beginning, after what the governor called a once in a thousand year weather event. >> we are in the midst of an extraordinary weather event that is just devastated communities. >> reporter: millions are bracing for what today will bring, with extreme weather still hitting the rest of the country. damaging winds and hail in the
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midwest overnight. while extreme heat is gripping the south from california to florida. heat alerts are in place, and the index could soar into the triple digits. as the water recedes here, we'll begin to get a scope of the damage and see just how many billions of dollars we are talking about state wide. a lot of roads around this area still shut down. this was completely shut off last night. we had to sleep in our cars because there was no other option. we just had to get to higher ground and stay safe with hundreds of other people who were parked in a parking lot on top of a hill over here. so still a very active situation. i will continue to keep you updated. >> we know the recovery process will take some time. kristen dahlgren, thank you for that reporting. now from the northeast to southern california, where a landslide knocked luxury homes right off their foundations. this happened in rolling hills estates, about half an hour south of los angeles. and this happened so quickly,
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back with new developments in the georgia election interference investigation into former president donald trump. two new grand juries are set to be seated today in fulton county. in fact, these are live pictures right now from inside that courtroom, where the proceedings are under way. now, these grand juries could be tasked with signing off on an indictment of the former president if district attorney fani willis decides to pursue charges. she has indicated her decision could come in early august. let's bring in nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian now. ken, what can you tell us about these new grand juries? >> good morning, ana. remember that that special grand jury, which had been investigating this case in fulton county was not authorized to bring criminal charges, though it recommended charges against several individuals.
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now we have basically a standard grand jury that is about to hear evidence in this case. one that can approve indictments. our reporting is that one or both grand juries will be considering criminal charges in connection with donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. each panel will have about 26 participants, 23 grand jurors and three alternates. robert mcburney will preside and he's the same judge who oversaw that special grand jury that collected evidence in the trump investigation. it is worth noting that president joe biden won about 73% of the vote in 2020 in fulton county. in terms of timing, there are strong indications that the charges in this case would come later this summer, between july 31st and august 18th. the d.a. fani willis wrote to the chief judge in may asking judges not to schedule any trials during those dates. the special grand jury previously heard from 75 witnesses, including trump advisers, white house aides, georgia officials, investigae ing whether laws were broken.
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now we see what happens in terms of criminal charges. >> and you have new information in the classified documents case, with the hearing and the trial? >> that's right. the judge in the case just postponed this hearing that was supposed to be on friday about classified materials until tuesday. last night, trump's lawyers filed paper work asking that the trial date, which jack smith had requested be in december, be -- postponed indefinitely essentially, perhaps after the 2024 presidential election. they're saying that a december date would be a miscarriage of justice, because there are complex legal issues that need to be hashed out and they also say it would be hard to pick an impartial jury if this trial is held in the middle of a presidential election, which donald trump is a candidate. this issue will be a big test, the first big test, really, for judge aileen cannon, who as you remember last year made a series of unusual rulings favorable to mr. trump in connection with the fbi search of his mar-a-lago compound, a conservative appeals
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court reversed and repudiated those rulings. we'll see how she reacts now that she's presiding over this criminal case. >> and already a delay as expected. ken dilanian, thank you so much. this morning, in iowa, lawmakers are back in that state capital for a special legislative session to debate a six-week abortion ban. this bill is expected to pass today. it would go into effect after being signed by the governor. joining us from des moines is nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster. shaq, we can see that there is a lot of people behind you at the capitol. what are you hearing from these folks who turned out to protest? >> reporter: good morning, ana. yes, you can see and probably hear the passion in which people on both sides of this issue have as the legislature begins debating this six-week ban on abortion. if you're opposed to that legislation, you hear folks saying this is harmful for women, that it will amount to a near total ban on abortion here in the state. supporters of the legislation say this is about protecting
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life and this has been -- being able to accomplish something they have been seeking to accomplish for so long now. the law that will likely pass later today was already passed in 2018, but it was blocked by the courts. we know how much has changed since 2018. overturning of roe. more conservative state supreme court justices. i asked about the changes we could see once this law is implemented. listen here. what is the impact of this law passing? >> from a practical standpoint, it means that for most people in iowa abortion will be illegal because by the time you find out that you're pregnant, you can't get an appointment and iowa has a 24-hour waiting period in place. >> reporter: now, without a doubt iowa is definitely a
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socially conservative state, but look at the polling that we have on this issue. this is a poll from the des moines registrar back in march. 61% of iowans say they believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases. 35% say illegal in all or most cases. and that 61% includes 70% of women in this state who believe they should have access to abortion care. you mentioned it, despite the polling numbers, this bill is likely to sail through the legislature and be presented to the governor where once she signs it, it will be enacted immediately. >> shaq brewster, appreciate your reporting there in iowa. we'll be watching any new developments. let's stay in iowa now and a new feud is bubbling up between governor reynolds and former president trump. this comes after "the new york times" reported that even though she is officially neutral, not endorsing anyone in the 2024 race, reynolds quietly favors florida governor ron desantis. trump doesn't like this. and he's lashing out on his
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truth social account writing in part, quote, i endorsed her, did big rallies and she won. now she wants to remain neutral. i don't invite her to events. desantis down 45 points. joining us now former rnc chairman and msnbc political analyst michael steele, and former new york democratic congressman max rose. congressman, since you're here with me in person, i'll start with you. what do you make of trump picking a fight with iowa's governor? >> you know, politics is like high school on steroids. and that's the case right now. there is some interesting dynamics at play here. one, donald trump perennially breaks this rule of never punch down in politics. he truly does not care and for some reason in these particular cases it is working. it is clear that the governor of iowa favors ron desantis, otherwise she wouldn't be doing so many events with him. but on the same hand, she refuses to endorse desantis, despite clearly favoring him,
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because of this fear of the trumpian base. and then finally what we see, yet again, is donald trump dominating the narrative in this primary, constantly making this the wwf of american politics, picking a fight each and every day, making it nearly impossible for anyone else in the primary to capture the limelight. what we're seeing as the weeks and days go on here, it is becoming ever more likely that trump will get the nomination because no one else can gain the momentum here. >> he is sucking up a lot of oxygen, that's for sure. michael, other candidates are rushing to the governor's defense here. do you think that's more about her or more about trump? >> probably both. they see an advantage to rally around her a little bit, to sort of poke at trump. the reality of it is trump is, you know, doing the one thing
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that, you know, in politics those of us who are in politics and congressman knows this, you know, this idea that, you know, you're going to get the, you know, the person you endorse is going to wrap around and endorse you. that's a 50/50 crap shoot. based on the circumstances. that's the nature of politics. trump has redefined the sport in such a way that things like this to him he takes very personally. so the governor is going to have her hands full. she's going to have to -- she's going to be forced at some point to come out and say something because trump's going to continually remind iowans that she is in that chair because he put her there. because they put her there. and keeping with this theme that, you know, what they do to me they really want to do to you, this is another way in which trump will leverage the conversation against the governor should she continue to flirt with desantis the way she has so far. and i don't think the governor is prepared to deal with that. and that's why she thinks right now the better political play is
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to remain neutral. but in trump's world, neutrality is an offense. >> right, he's of the mentality if you're not with me, you're against me or something like that. i do want to ask you, michael, about senator tim scott who is banking on some traction in these early states including iowa to try to get momentum going in his campaign. listen to how he responds to some criticism he's been facing when it comes to issues of race. >> there are a lot of people on the left who say that this idea of up from the bootstraps, which you promote, that everybody can do it if they work hard enough really is ignoring the basic racial history of this country. what do you say to those criticisms. >> one word, hog wash. the simplest word i can use, hog wash. the truth of my life disproves the lies of the radical left. what they hope the most is a candidate like me who actually disrupts their narrative. >> michael, your reaction or your response to those comments?
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>> i appreciate tim. but the reality of it is it is not hog wash. whatever that is. it is not that. the reality of it is you cannot say on the one hand that the story of your life is about, you know, something other than race, and then talk about and tell us stories about how you've been racially profiled or how you have run and met people who had to deal with racism, how do you explain their stories? because that's part of their life too. so, tim has got to figure out a way in which he can authentically speak about both things at the same time because you can. most black people can. they can express to you a hope in the country that enslaved their great, great grandparents, right? so you can have that -- you can have that conversation. you don't have to play to that white male vote to try to, you
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know, prove, oh, the country is not racist when, in fact, that is not the experience of a lot of people of color, even to this day. >> and i'm sure he'll be asked about race at the first debate, which is next month. and one of the requirements to make the debate stage is you have to have at least 40,000 donors. a couple of candidates are getting rather creative here. north dakota governor doug burgum is offering a $20 gift card to people who donate just $1 to his campaign. innovative, congressman. >> not bad. that's how i took my kid to coney island over the weekend. what a hustle. you know, it should be illegal what's going on here, at least barred by both the committees. there is this 40,000 donor target that they each have to reach to get to the debate stage. because what they're avoiding is to see 25 candidates out there and it won't make any sense in
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the end. so, you know, some of this might work, but in the end, for the numbers don't play out. they don't have that much money to start. interesting about this donor count is we have seen some members of the republican primary actually perform pretty tremendously. vivek is a great example of that, he's gotten 50,000, 60,000 donations already. we're seeing politics, particularly presidential politics, become a bit more meritocratic. you saw this several years ago. we'll see how this plays out. hustles like this, that's not going to work. >> we'll see. maybe it will. who knows? michael steele, max rose, appreciate you both. thank you for being here. up next on "ana cabrera reports," as 150 officers hu pr in pennsylvania, could someone be helping him evade capture.
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this morning, investigators are combing through the woods along the new york/pennsylvania border as a manhunt for escaped prisoner michael burham enters day five. burham is wanted in connection with cases involving murder, kidnapping, and other violent felonies. officials say he has survivalist skills and the search already turned up small campsites and supplies he may have used, potentially suggesting he's gotten help along the way. let's bring in nbc news correspondent ron allen for more in pennsylvania and also joining us former fbi special agent bobby ciccone. ron, what is the latest on the search right now? >> reporter: well, the honest truth is that we don't know because the authorities are not giving a blow by blow description of what they're doing and that's on purpose. they're not trying to give out
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any information that might tip the suspect as to what's going on. they had every reason to believe that he could -- he has the possibility to be monitoring the media, monitoring social media. they believe for a reason they won't detail he has been getting some help. he's from this community. he knows the area. there may be other people who are assisting him in some way. so we're talking about a vast, vast area. there is a state forest not far from here that is half a million acres deep, full of mountains and woods and streams and water ways. and, again, this individual has survival skills, and military training, and, again, there have been indications early on there were campsites he was able to get some kind of supplies and authorities have said he's very comfortable living in the great outdoors. so, that makes this all the more complicated. they're hoping to get tips from the public. and they have been getting a lot of calls. and they're not saying whether those tips are paying off or
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not. again, so as to not give any information to the suspect while he's out there. there have been calls in about vandalism, about burglary, break-ins to calls, homes, barns. so far they have not been able to directly connect any of that to the suspect, but they're hoping that, again, the public serves as their eyes and ears and that someone spots something out of place, something that doesn't belong, someone who doesn't belong, and that authorities are hoping that that kind of information will lead them to get their man. they continue to say they're confident that they will capture him. again, who knows how long this might take. >> ron allen, thank you, thank you. and so, bobby, more than 150 officers are now involved in this search. state, local, federal, he escaped thursday. are you surprised he hasn't been caught? >> no, not really. i mean, this case has eerie similarities to a manhunt i was involved in, the eric rudolph
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manhunt, the centennial park bomber in atlanta, who did take the time to stash supplies and resources in the mountains of north carolina because he knew he would need them because he knew eventually he would be on the run. if this guy did the same thing, if he was able to prestage resources he would need, canned foods, bottled water, things like that, we could be in for a longer manhunt than usual. normally we know fugitives don't have the time or the resources to plan ahead. if they do have that time, and they do have those resources to plan ahead, you know, it is much, much more difficult for law enforcement, particularly if he gets the area of the allegheny forest, vast areas of the rugged terrain, it takes a lot of time to establish a perimeter and then move in closely. remember, when you search an area, you clear it, you can't let him double back into that area. so you have to maintain security of that area. it is a very, very manpower intensive endeavor. >> and i guess authorities are still saying they believe he is
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in the warren area, that's where he escaped from. how likely is that, though, and how do you contain somebody who has been on the run for days? >> it is very difficult to contain. and it is likely he is in that area. if he knows that area, fugitives tend to like to stay in areas that they're familiar with because they don't stand out, they blend in, because that's an area they're used to being in. so, it is likely he's still in that area. if they do have these campsites that appear to have resources and food and things like that that he can stage there or was brought there if he has some support, it is likely he'll stay in that area. he'll constantly be moving around. you want to track break-ins that people have in remote cabins. you want to track all that. you want the public assistance for keeping an eye out for this guy. it is likely he's in the area. but he will continually move around within that area. it takes a lot of time and effort to kind of not only
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search, but then lock down the areas that have been searched so he can't double back into that. >> all right, bobby, thank you so much for providing your insights and expertise. appreciate you making the time for us. >> thank you, ana. now to a plane crash, without even a scratch on the tarmac. a pilot escaped with minor injuries after this. nose first into an airplane hangar in southern california. this happened yesterday. the pilot was the only person on board and had been practicing takeoffs and landings prior to this crash. the faa and the national transportation safety board are continuing to investigate this incident. next on "ana cabrera reports," a business deal that is par for the course? we're live on capitol hill where top pga tour execs are being drilled about their proposed liv golf merger. plus, the new push to investigate an energy drink popular among children. preteens. made by one of social media's biggest stars. by one of social ggbiest stars.
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welcome back. if you are a parent, this is important. senator chuck schumer is urging the fda to investigate the influencers prime drink. it seems to target kids and it's marketing on social media. >> it's the drink with buzz among kids. >> prime, boys. >> today we'll be drinking prime, energy. >> the newest edition to
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influencers. >> buyer and parents beware, because it's a serious health concern for the kids it targets. >> schumer wants the fda to investigate prime's marketing and caffein content, and it has lots of it, almost as much as six cans of coke or two red bulls. the label says the drink is not recommended for those under 16, is there any circumstance in which a teenager should have 200 milligrams of caffein? >> a normal teenager should not need that much caffein ever. caffein can cause heart palpitations and it can cause chest pain if a patient perhaps has an undiagnosed cardiac
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issue. >> the company complied with all fda guidelines and welcomes discussions with the fda or any other department to protect the con consumer. that's going to do it for us. "josé diaz-balart reports" starts right now. i am josé diaz-balart. we begin with breaking news from lithuania, where any moment now president biden is scheduled to meet with erdogan on the sidelines of the summit, and clearing the way for the alliance to add its 32nd state. >> a
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