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issue. >> the company complied with all fda guidelines and welcomes discussions with the fda or any other department to protect the con consumer. that's going to do it for us. "josé diaz-balart reports" starts right now. i am josé diaz-balart. we begin with breaking news from lithuania, where any moment now president biden is scheduled to meet with erdogan on the sidelines of the summit, and clearing the way for the alliance to add its 32nd state. >> a full-fledged member of the
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alliance, and it's good for sweden and turkey and all of nato and the baltic region. >> but the big topic of discussion at this high stakes summit is the war in ukraine. ukraine wants a path to nato membership, but the u.s. and other countries are reluctant to do so while the war is still raging. looking at this is josh letterman, and also joining us, jim townsend, former deputy assistant secretary of defense for nato. and a former deputy assistant second of defense. how did this happen? >> well, josé, according to the countries that are involved in this, nato and the u.s., and of course, turkey, they were able to move past long-standing
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concerns that turkey had about arms exports and terrorism within sweden and finland, the country that joined nato back in april. but behind the scenes there was a lot of wrangling by the turkish government trying to extract concessions on key issues, including trying to get the u.s. to sell f-16s to turkey, and we started to hear from president erdogan, and in the wake of the agreement all sides claiming that these issues were not linked and this was not essentially a barter, but we are hearing from the white house that they are going at full speed to sell the f-16s to turkey, and they are going to fully support turkey's bid to enter the eu. you can see how erdogan thrusts
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himself in sweden entering nato to try and extract concessions from the west. he remains one of the only leaders talking to all sides in the conflict. he just hosted president zelenskyy and said he plans to host president putin in turkey next month and so he's a major player and it will be interesting to see what he has to say about the deal. >> jim, why do you think turkey decided to reverse course and pave the way for sweden entering nato? >> well, one of the complaints is there has not been a good communication between the u.s. and turkey, and he felt the president doesn't talk to him as much as his predecessor did, and there are aggravations between the two countries that simmered along, and having such a
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senior-level attention from the united states, and the president personally getting involved and pledging to work with greece and turkey, and dealing with security issues in the eastern mediterranean, and then finally as it was mentioned, the f-16 deal, whether it's new or upgrades, this all sweetened the deal. it was a package deal, and erdogan realized this was what he could get. >> what does turkey get out of the reversal? >> first of all, the signal to vladimir putin that the nato alliance is unified and turkey, is, at the end of the day, a member of the robust alliance that is stronger than russia, and vladimir putin doesn't control erdogan, and that's important to turkey. turkey does not want the black sea to be controlled by russia.
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historically turkey has felt like they should be controlling the black sea. that's important for turkey to show it's part of a strong alliance, and it's also important for turkey to show all of the players involved here that turkey has sway, and of course, president erdogan wants to show his people that as well. turkey is masterful, and erdogan is masterful to get the best deal. >> we were just saying erdogan being re-elected recently, and we were just talking about the situation between turkey and greece, the sea and the islands there. do you think this phase of the reality diplomatically speaking is legitimizing the erdogan regime to a much stronger position? >> i think, josé, it's offering the opportunity for turkey to start to improve its
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relationship with its nato partners and the eu members. the reason why this might be a real reality and really important for turkey is because turkey's economy is struggling, and they have had runaway inflation, or maybe not runaway, i'm not an economists, but massive inflation over 70% last year and stands today at 38%. president erdogan needs to revamp his trade relationships, and of course, imports, the issue is, of course, russia. russia is still a trading partner of turkey. there's a real opportunity for turkey. i think erdogan needs the economic boost more than anything else, and that's why the eu is back on the table as well. >> josh, what will president biden do to try and keep nato unified when it comes to ukraine? >> his biggest challenge at this summit, josé, was to try and keep nato unified and to try to
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paper over that disagreement about letting ukraine into nato and to come up with some language that all of these allies can agree with that they can put out in a formal statement, which we expect to come in the next couple of hours, explaining exactly what is the route and timeline for ukraine to get into nato. and all of these countries have been bartering over or wrangling over should it be a invitation in the future, and how do you use that, and do you use the i word, invitation. hopefully president biden will be able to get some type of agreement with the nato allies that satisfied ukraine's desire to see a firm step in the right direction, and they will ultimately be part of the alliance once the war is over,
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and they don't want to lose support from germany. >> jim, do you think the war in ukraine has actually changed nato? we have seen with sweden coming in and finland, but how has it changed nato? >> it has changed nato tremendously. when i was at nato years ago, so much of the focus was on out of the area operations, in other words, afghanistan, or other areas where nato would have to go out and tackle a threat that was outside of europe. now what has happened is we have focused again on european defense the way we did during the cold war, and forced deployments around nato's parameter and around europe, and asking to provide things that help to protect european nato
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itself, and it's not the light kind of equipment. when we wanted them to go to iraq or afghanistan to fight terrorism, now it's all about defending europe and all about defending europe from russia. >> meanwhile the russian face mask lavrov said russia will take appropriate and timely measures to oppose that. >> you have to remember, lavrov obviously is putting the best face on it and trying to frighten nato and frighten the european allies. there are some things that russia could do that would frighten nato allies, and we are watching closely to see what type of nuclear and other capabilities, troops and weapons that russia might put in
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belarus. right now they have their own leader and have control over their own territory, more or less. that will be important for nato to watch because, of course, belarus is on the border with multiple nato allies. >> guys, we have a little bit of news. >> we just lost communication -- i just lost communication with evelyn. josh, do you have something to say? >> no, i would just -- >> if you can hear me -- >> yes, sorry, evelyn, my apologies for interrupting you, but, josh, go ahead. >> i just wanted to say we just heard from nato secretary general who has been holding a news conference here at nato, and he has laid out what this agreement they have reached about how to describe ukraine's
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future membership in nato. essentially the members of the alliance agreed to extend the invitation for ukraine to join the allies when conditions are met, and they are saying it's not immediate and will require unanimity among the allies and the meeting of certain conditions, which is an illusion to the requirements for ukraine to lean towards good measures and this appears to be the compromise they reached here to extend this invitation when the allies agree and they met certain requirements. >> evelyn, i just want your reaction to that. just thinking about now that
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turkey is taking such a major role in the issue of nato, for example, does this whitewash turkey's issues, like, for example, in cyprus and how they have been increasing their bases in northern iraq and their fight against the kurds, and they are going into northern iraq more and more. do all of these issues kind of go away now because of turkey's role in letting sweden into nato? >> well, josé there's a linkage to ukraine. the turkish president also said very clearly before he spoke out on sweden recently, he said ukraine should get into nato and become a nato member. i think this is very positive development for ukraine, undoubtedly. it means they have a political invitation out there already. the decision is political and the decision can come at any time. what i don't like about it is
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it's so open-ended, and i would have allowed them in right now, and i would say article 5 protection of ukraine doesn't apply where there's fighting going on, and it's tricky to do, obviously, while there is a war ongoing. i think it means we would have better cooperation among nato allies going forward on ukraine, and hopefully, also, as you said, josé, in the middle east. >> thank you all so much for being with us this morning. we are keeping an eye on the nato summit in lithuania and will bring you updates as we wait for the bilateral meeting. up next, why former president trump is trying to push back the timing of the classified documents trial. we are back in 60 seconds. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports." blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. from prom dresses
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classified information moved back beyond the november 2024 election possibly. this comes as the judge in the case rescheduled the conference on rehandling the documents conversation until next week. joining us, a former u.s. attorney that is now a law professor at the university of michigan and also an msnbc legal analyst. why did the judge decide to reschedule this week's meeting? >> it was a request by a lawyer for walt nauta, and i wouldn't read anything into it at all, josé. >> barbara, what are the procedures for handling documents like this one? >> this is a rare case, but there are a number of cases that have classified information. orderly the first step is to have what is referred to as a seepa hearing, and it's a
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classified procedures act, section 2, and the parties would gather together with the judge to talk that through, what is the evidence and discovery going to look like, and should we get clearances for the defense counsel and developing all of the protocols, and that is that hearing that the court wants to have, that the government wants to have as soon as possible. that's the one that has been delayed a few days. it's an important threshold hearing before some of the classified discovery can be shared with the defense. an important step in the case, and it's more of a procedural hearing than a substantive hearing, but an important one nonetheless to dictate how things are going to roll afterwards. >> how are you looking at how things are going to roll afterwards? how complicated are things right now on this specific issue? >> look, it's always very complicated, josé. i think the most significant thing that has happened right now is the president's attorneys
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are asking for an indefinite postponement of the trial, and they are saying the idea that jack smith wants to hold it in december, it would be what they would call a miscarriage of justice, and they would like to be postponed until after the presidential election, because it would be hard to seat a fair and impartial jury as long as donald trump is the defendant and running for president. this would be the first big test for the judge in this case, aileen cannon who made rulings in favor of donald trump, and she was reversed by a federal appeals court. we will see what her reaction to all that has been, did it imbolden her, chastise her. as a former federal prosecutor told me today, donald trump's strategy appears to be to have
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no trial, because this is the biggest threat to him, this classified documents case and he's trying to delay it as long as possible. >> barbara, why do you think trump's lawyers want to trial to wait until after the election? >> they say there are a number of reasons, the difficulty of getting an impartial jury pool, and the challenges of the discovery. i think all of those things are valid. i think a december trial date strikes me as a little ambitious, but the idea of passing it past november of 2024 strikes me as a bridge too far. and doing this adjourning it without a date is unheard of. if it needs to be pushed because of something that happens in the case, that can happen. the right to a speedy trial is not just for the defendant but also for the public. the reason i think he really
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wants to delay it past the 2024 election, the idea of no trial. what does that mean? if he becomes president he can appoint the new attorney general and he could dismiss the case altogether. >> thank you for being with us this morning. turning to capitol hill, where the sub committee on investigations is holding a hearing on the controversial deal that would merge the pga tour with the saudi-backed liv golf. joining us now, ali vitali. great seeing you. why is congress's hearing on golf? >> yeah, this hearing about golf is also linked with the geopolitical landscape and national security concerns because of the fact that saudi arabia is so heavily involved in
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liv golf now with the pga tour. we have heard from senators referencing everything from concerns from 9/11 families and the lack of transparency from the u.s. and saudis on 9/11 -- josé, and that's -- >> i have to interrupt you. so sorry for that. let's go to president biden and the president of turkey, president erdogan. >> thank you for your diplomacy and courage and leadership. we're allies of nato, so welcome.
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>> translator: mr. president, my dear friend, i would like to first of all thank you for congratulating me in the aftermath of my re-election to my current post, and i'm grateful for the congratulation messages you have sent to me, and within the framework i think it's high time for the heads of states to get together for further consultations. that's why i believe today's meeting with you, within the margin of the nato summit is the first step forward. our meetings prior to this were
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near warm-ups, but now we are initiating a new process. this new process is a process of five years, and now you are getting prepared for the forthcoming elections and with the forthcoming elections i would like to take this opportunity to also wish you the best of luck. >> thank you very much. we look forward to meeting with you in the next five years. >> reporter: mr. president, is president zelenskyy -- >> thank you. time to move out. thank you so much. >> mr. president, are you worried this proposal has not had the support of president zelenskyy? >> guys, we're moving out. come on.
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it's time to go. it's time to go. thank you. thank you. >> well, looks like it's time to go according to the folks there in lithuania. you saw the brief comments by both president biden and the leader of turkey, erdogan, where they congratulated each other for a host of things. let's bring back josh and evelyn. josh, this is a brief kind of photo spread, a photo shoot of the leaders speaking, and they will have time behind closed doors to talk about these issues? >> that's right. they certainly will. it was so interesting to hear the turkish leader taking a victory lap after his re-election which strengthened his political scant, and he wants to use that as a moment to reassert himself more forcefully on the world stage.
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you heard him talking about how everything has been a warm-up until now, saying this is a first step forward. he was talking also about president biden's upcoming re-election, and so you see the turkish leader there really trying to maximize this opportunity when he is at the strongest politically he has been in years to fashion himself into a real global power broker. that has been so evidence in the last few days as the run up to the summit has been dominated with headlines about erdogan, whether he would let sweden into the alliance, and now this is a moment that president erdogan clearly wanted to seize on to try and make it clear that he is one of the more significant leaders when it comes not opl to the nato alliance but also to
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resolving this crisis in ukraine. >> just your thoughts, jim, on this. it was a brief meeting, but what were your thoughts? >> a couple things were interesting, and a lot of what josh said is absolutely right. i think a lot of the things that erdogan sent to biden, he wanted to show a personal connection between self and the president. he said in the past that was important with him, and he had more of a personal relationship with trump before happened and now has not had the same with biden, and now he's building that relationship, saying thanks for the calls and good luck with your re-election. he mentioned a new process and mechanism. that's important and is a big part of the package deal, that
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swung erdogan towards bringing sweden in, and it's something that involved the east mediterranean and the security there, and it involves greece, too. you can tell erdogan is interested in setting that up, and he's taking this seriously, the relationship with the u.s. it's important for turkey, and i think it was an important element to swing sweden into nato, frankly. >> i mean, evelyn, your thoughts on that? it seems like they are talking about their five-year plan to be together on this. >> yeah, i agree 100% with everything jim just said, which i usually do. this was a very, very friendly engagement. i think the friendliest i have ever seen between our leaders, the u.s. and turkish leadership, and the fact that erdogan
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commented on the upcoming u.s. elections, i am sure, was appreciated by president biden. there's a question of whether or not erdogan would come to the united states, and that was also an incentive to get him to be more cooperate on the turkey issues. we have a chance to bring turkey closer to us economically, politically and militarily. it's not just about europe and russia, and we also have challenges in the middle east. the closest we came to war with russia over the last decade or more was in syria, and so we really need to work closer with turkey on the sticky issues where we don't agree 100%, but we at least agree that, you know, we don't want russia to be the overwhelming influence in syria. we need to counter balance and try to do what we can to help the syrian opposition and protect human rights there.
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>> i thank you, josh, jim, and evelyn, for being with us this morning and for coming back to have this conversation after that bilateral meeting with the president of the united states and turkey. ali vitali is on capitol hill, and we were just talking about, among other things, the senate talking about the agreement between the pga and liv golf. but there's so much more going on capitol hill as well. >> yeah, everything is getting crammed in and that's what is happening in congress right now, and it's not just about the pga tour and liv golf, but it's something we are hearing from senator tuberville. he's holding up military promotions as a sort of protest to abortion policies at the
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pentagon for the pentagon policy where they pay for logistical and travel needs for veterans and military officials trying to access abortion care, and also because of new comments he's made about what constitutes a white nationalists. let me show you the comments he made on cnn last night. >> just to be clear, you agree that white nationalists should not be serving in the u.s. military? is that what you are saying? >> if people think a white nationalist is a racist, i agree with that. >> a white nationalists is somebody that believes the white race is superior to other races. >> that is some peoples' opinions. >> what is your opinion? >> my opinion of a white nationalists, it's an american. now, if that white nationalist sz a racist, i am totally against anything they want to
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do, because i am 110% against race splg. >> nevertheless, chuck schumer is responding. >> a member of the united states senate to speculate about what white nationalism means as if it's a little thought experiment is deeply and terribly disturbing. i urge my republican colleagues to impress upon the senator from alabama, the destructive impact of his words and urge him to apologize. >> it's a really confusing series of comments from senator tuberville here, josé, because a few months ago he was making these comments and received criticism for it, and since we came on the air, he held and said if democrats want to say
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white nationalists are racists, i am totally against that. i am not sure that many of us understand the rational the senator is applying. >> i would have to agree with you, my dear. it's always a pleasure to see you. i thank you. >> thanks. up next, new pictures of the catastrophic flooding in the northeast. this morning millions still under flood watches. take a look at these pictures. in pennsylvania, the massive manhunt for an escaped murder suspect intensifies. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.
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34 past the hour. this morning the search is intensifying for the murder suspect with survivalist skills that escaped from jail using bed sheets tied together. the state police are deploying more than 150 officers for the manhunt. ron, good morning. are they any closer to catching this guy? >> reporter: you know, if they are, they are not telling us. a lot of that is by design, josé. they are trying to be tight-lipped and discreet about what information gets out in the public, because they are leery about providing the suspect with an edge. they found camp sites and supplies they believe are
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associated with him. he's from this community and knows it well. they are trying to be very discreet about what they are letting out there in the public so not to give him any indication of what they found, where and what have you. what they are hoping for is more information from the public, a tip, something that might lead them to the suspect. they are trying to have people call in who have experienced vandalism of their home, car, a break-in or anything like that. the real challenge is that we are in a rugged forested part of the country along the pennsylvania/new york border. there's a state forest that is 500,000 acres deep. it's just a vast area. because this individual has skills to live out in the environment, out in the wilderness, that, police say, will make it even tougher to catch him, but they are convinced they will catch their man. they say that again and again.
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we will see. there's a briefing in a few hours and police will update us on what they can about the progress of the search. >> ron allen in pennsylvania, thank you so much. it's pretty extraordinary. this morning 2 million people are under flood alerts as heavy rainfall continues to ravage the northeast, and president biden provided a disaster declaration in vermont as some streets have been transformed into rivers. more than 8,000 people across the state is without power. the government has closed state offices for the day. meanwhile, 53 million people across the country remain under heat alerts. in miami, that hit 110 degrees, and that's their 30th consecutive day with a heat index above 100. it's hot. now to the race for the white house.
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flashing red warning signs is how one pollster described the youth vote problem. voters under 30 now appear less likely to identify as democrats and fewer young voters see politics as a meaningful way to create change, which has been a key indicator of youth turnout. joining us now, a republican strategist and msnbc political analyst, and former republican congressman who is no longer affiliated with the party, and he's also an msnbc analyst. why do you think we are seeing this change among young voters? >> it has been something we have seen, actually, with all voters over the last 20 or 30 years, and they are self identifying with independents rather than with the democratic or republican party. it's not surprising we see this with younger voters. what we do know is that younger voters will turn out on a particular issue if it matters
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to them, so just think about what president biden is trying to do on student debt or, for example, a woman's right to control her own health care, that's another big motivating factor that a lot of young people see that right suddenly taken away from half the population. i think what we will see is younger voters tried to be more identifying as independent but still voting with democrats. i think this will be a pretty high turnout election following 2022. >> congressman, if we do end up with a rematch between biden and trump, how concerned should both parties be about the youth turnout? >> i think democrats should be really concerned. republicans when they try and increase their margin with youth with the african american vote or latino vote, you are talking about moving from single to double digits.
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turnout is everything, and so look, democrats need an enthusiastic voting base going into next november, and the contrast between joe biden and donald trump is still the most favorable contrast for joe biden. if the economy is in a good place, joe biden has a great case to make to young voters and old voters alike. if the economy seems to be stagnant next november, that puts donald trump in a stronger case against the sitting president. >> david, i mean, it's the issues that susan was talking about are clearly in the democrats' favor? >> that's absolutely right. from fundamental protection of rights to college admissions and student loans, and then an economy that addresses affordability. republicans remain wrapped around the culture wars.
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that does not work. the culture war agenda is a white privilege suburban agenda, if you will, and it does not translate to young voters outside of that data set, and republicans are off message. joe biden is talking about how to grow an economy for all people, and education and health care and industry, and it's a message that is ripe for younger voters when they connect with him. >> chris christie was on "morning joe." let's take a listen. >> he's never been attacked from inside the republican party in an effective way on the facts by somebody who knows him and knows him well. given that i prepared him for the debates in '16 and '20, he knows what he's in for and is not anxious to go through that. >> do you think he's possibly effectively challenging trump? >> i think he's effectively challenging trump. i don't think he will
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effectively beat donald trump, but what he will do is chip away at donald trump, and perhaps remind voters that there are other people out there to support and there are other candidates, again, not sure christie rises to the top of the list, but the more he can chip away at donald trump, the better it is for the other republican candidates and for biden. >> thank you both for being with us this morning. appreciate it. coming up today marks two years since tens of thousands of people took to the streets in cuba demanding freedom. an update on how almost a thousand protesters are still in jail in cuba. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. i? (crashing sounds) everyone's gonna need more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod. -see? -baby: ah.
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university of education. two years later are there -- what was the impact of these protests? >> the impact was that the cuban regime knows that the people are powerful and so they are now using more repression to control and silence them. basically visualizing what cuban people go through and have gone through under this communist dictatorship for the last 64 years. >> what is the situation like in cuba today for the people of that island? >> the situation is it's an economic disaster. there are issues that have to do with police brutality. there's rampant issues having to do with civil rights for particular groups, religious
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groups, groups of color, for example, the artist like the san ysidro movement, and these are groups that have been oppressed and repressed. you have a man on a hunger strike, and other opposition groups for peaceful transition to democracy. you have hunger strikes happening in cuba and a thousand political prisoners across gender and age and political lines that are in prison. >> why do you think, professor, much of the world turns its back to that reality you mentioned, turns its back to people, young artists, afro cubans that are trying to just live and exist and express themselves? why is it that much of the world simply doesn't care? >> ideology.
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in our world right now ideology seems to trump the reality of people suffering, and it seems like cuba is under the radar. it's not like when we were understanding what is happening in berlin when most of the world understood what was a good thin. so with cuba, because you have brown and black people who are the majority, i think there's a racial component. i think people of south america tend to be not looked at as fully human, let's say. i think communist in cuba is not talked about. it aligns with ideological ideas of justice that are a farce. >> professor, you are in front of part of the berlin wall that for so many people and for so many years divided one people. many would think there's a berlin wall that's 90 miles wide
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between cuba and the united states. is there something -- >> absolutely. >> -- that could help that wall come down? >> absolutely. i think first of all, freeing the political prisoners of cuba. sanctions on cuba from the eu and also from the united states. and we also have to understand that there are colleges and universities that are bringing groups to cuba still. this is supporting the regime. we have to cut ties and let the regime fall and not continue to support the cuban regime. don't get it twisted. cuban people need support. but this is how the cuban community has been by protesting, by bringing visibility. today marks july 11th, 2021, second year anniversary. there is commemorative actions happening all over the world. in munich, in chile, in madrid
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and all over the united states. we need to continue that. we need to support the cubans in exile across racial lines. >> thank you very much for being with us this morning. >> thank you, jose. coming up, protests right now in iowa's capital with the state on the verge of passing a six-week abortion ban. we will go there live next. you are watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health
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55 past the hour. in new york city, federal prosecutors have indicted the man behind claims the biden family received payments from chinese nationals tied to intelligence in beijing. the man is facing a series of charging stemming from his advocacy of chinese causes. joining us now with more is tom winter. good morning. what do we know about this guy?
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>> luft has been on the radar. they had discussions about a whistle-blower that has come forward to allege wrongdoing. you laid it out the biden family received money from individuals tied to chinese intelligence and that hunter biden had a mole inside the fbi who tipped him off to things. he cited a meeting between luft and federal agents that took place in brussels. we know that took place because it's referenced in the indictment. in the indictment they charge him with lying to federal agents in the course of that meeting about his ties to the chinese government. that's one of the allegations that's come up. it's eight counts, including allegations he tried to sell weapons illegally from a chinese company to several nations that are on various u.s. lists for banning on that. >> tom, to be clear, this is not associated with the two irs
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whistle-blowers who claim hunter biden got special treatment? >> he is not a whistle-blower at all under normal definitions. he is somebody who came forward with what he says was information and somebody who the u.s. has alleged serious crimes against. some of the charges carry up to 20 years in prison. the two individuals from the irs separate. those individuals worked on the hunter biden case. it's not clear they have gone through the formal whistle-blower process. but they have raised concerns about the investigation. they have done so to congress under oath, their word. this is separate when you look at the individuals who have come forward here. >> tom winter, thank you so very much. happening in iowa, lawmakers are holding a special session in the republican controlled legislature on a bill that would ban most abortions after six weeks, which is before most women know they are pregnant. shaq brewster joins us from des moines. what are the details of the bill?
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>> reporter: when you look at the text of the bill, it will block abortions after fetal cardiac active is detected. when you talk to doctors, that comes at about a six week point of pregnancy before most women know they are pregnant. there are exceptions for rape and insist if reported and the life of the mother. listen to the conversation i had with an abortion nurse who says this is going to have drastic impacts. follow that with the conversation by someone who traveled here to support the legislation. what kind of impact would this have on the abortion care you provide? >> a huge impact. this would affect almost all the patients that we see. right now, it's pretty rare to see someone who is between four and six weeks based on an ultrasound or their last period. most people are six weeks and above. >> i don't believe it's a woman's health issue that we are talking about. i think there's a bigger issue at hand. i think that it needs to be
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separated. there's a truth of the matter. a baby is a baby at conception. i really feel like life needs to be protected. >> reporter: you see behind me -- i'm sure you can hear it -- that has brought together folks on both sides of the issue to protest or to express support for the legislation. this special session will go and last one day. most people expect this bill to be passed into law as soon as it is signed by the governor. it will then be enacted. >> shaquille brewster, thank you very much. that wraps up the hour for me. you can always reach me on twitter and instagram. you can watch highlights from today's show online. i thank you for the privilege of your time. up next, a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports" live from the nato summit in lithuania.
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right now on a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports," live from the nato summit in lithuania, president biden meeting with nato allies at a critical moment in ukraine's counteroffensive against russia. president zelenskyy seen here moments ago has expressed frustration earlier today over nato's reluctance to officially invite ukraine to join the alliance once the war ends. will zelenskyy and joe biden face off here tomorrow? >> we agree on the language that you proposed relative to the future of ukraine being able to join nato. i still think that president putin thinks the way he succeeds is through nato. not going to do that. my one on one interview with secretary of state tony blinken. the president's wing man at the meetings here.

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