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critic. >> this is bigger than larry nassar. we have to get to the bottom of how this happened. >> biles joining her in a hearing on capitol hill. >> to be clear, i blame larry nassar and i also blame an entire system that enabled and perpetrated his abuse. >> usa gymnastics and the u.s. olympic community agreed to pay $380 million in a settlement with victims. he worked for decades at michigan state university which also settled, agreeing to pay 5 million. in 2018, victims shared their stories in a michigan courtroom at his sentence. >> he betrayed my trust, took advantage of my youth and sexually abused me hundreds of times. >> we have a lot to cover in our second hour of chris jansening
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reports. let's get right to it. >> at this hour, thousands taking to the streets in israel, blocking the country's main airport and make highways. prime minister netanyahu's latest attempt to curb judicial power just reignited massive protests. also, president zelenskyy arrives at the nato summit. he just addressed a crowd of thousands from an outdoor stage with many supporters in the crowd waving ukrainian flags. ahead, what to expect from his meeting tomorrow with president biden who says ukraine is not ready to join nato. and presidents of turkey just hours ago. his message of thanks now that turkey has lifted the last hurdle. our nbc news reporters are following all the latest
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developments. we begin in lithuania with president biden and president erdogan. >> chris, just a couple of days ago, the u.s. was suggesting that sweden would join nato but we didn't know when. they were not thinking it was going to be possible during the course of this summit. we got that surprise news last night that the turkish president erdogan did sign off on that after some reservations along with hungary before making sure this could proceed. now this is a situation where president biden had been meeting with the leader of sweden, was not party to these talks between nato, turkey, and sweden, but of course we know what outcome they wanted. he was very pleased to see this development and thanked erdogan personally when he was able to sit down with him at the summit
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here in lithuania. we don't know exactly how this was negotiated, what the last hold up was for erdogan and we know the u.s. had been talking about supplying them with f 16 fighter jets but jake sullivan said that wasn't a major factor, at least as the u.s. is concerned in ultimately reaching this very momentus time for the nato alliance. turkey said they had these reservations that were solved and this comes on the heels of finland being accepted this year. so the fact that two countries will be added to the alliance continues to bolster the support really for ukraine as that war continues to rage on. specifically when it comes to the eastern flank. but of course, this is an area where president biden has said that he wants to see sweden and finland, but now there are questions about how ukraine's membership will be handled.
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with that now not so much a matter of if, but when, and now it's a timetable that will likely be more drawn out than what president zelenskyy wanted to see. >> thank you. so president biden will meet with president zelenskyy tomorrow on the sidelines of that nato summit. kelly is following this story for us from kyiv. we know that zelenskyy has been openly critical of some aspects of this conference so far, but what do we expect his message to be tomorrow? >> expect him to continue to press his argument that ukraine should be given a timeline. not just for membership, but also for simply an invitation to join nato. he said in a tweet that it was absurd that ukraine has gotten neither out of this nato summit so far. he is now in lithuania. he was greeted by these huge crowds. his language a bit softer at that rally but again, saying that you know, he has faith in
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nato and nato's strength, in nato's partners but he wants that faith to turn into confidence that he'll see some sort of shift here. the state department commenting on weighing in on nato's, this nato language just a short time ago. >> the alliance has made clear that ukraine will become a member of nato. over the past several years, ukraine has become politically integrated with the alliance and has made substantial progress on its reform path. there are still conditions ukraine needs to fulfill but has made great progress and alliance members will continue to support ukraine's progress on remaining reforms. >> so that language essentially, i'm paraphrasing, to the effect of ukraine will be allowed to join when all 31 alliance members agree and when basically the time is right.
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now zelenskyy has said this weight is a sign of weakness, he'll try to press that argument that the only way to deal with russia is head on. and that they should have a firmer timeline as to when they can join nato. chris? >> thank you for that. israelis are back on the streets right now protesting a bill led by prime minister netanyahu to reform the judicial system. i want to bring in nbc news foreign correspondent, matt bradley. matt, what's the latest from there? >> reporter: yeah, well, chris, this is being called a day of disruption. this goes up this hill and protesters are walking, some of them, down here. there's a major highway across tel aviv and they will go in there and disrupt it. now what happened last night, benjamin netanyahu, the far
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right prime minister whose cabinet is the most far right this country has seen in its existence, push through a piece of legislation that doesn't pass this bill, but allows it to be discussed. that is what brought this enormous number of people on the street. not just in tel aviv, but jerusalem and nationwide. today, i walked out of the airport. there were protesters there trying to disrupt the airport. i asked this young man, only 18. hasn't even entered into the country's obligatory military service. i asked him about that and why he's protesting today. take a listen. >> at the end of the day, we're standing up for israeli democracy which the new government is trying to destroy. >> if this legislation passes, will you wear a uniform for this country? >> while legally i'm required to, i will not fight for a military in a dick tor yal state. i will not put my life at risk for a fascist state.
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no. >> chris, as you can see, military service in this country is a sacred duty of every young man and woman. this young man among so many others saying he will refuse to serve if this legislation is passed. that's why we keep hearing these lofty words that are bandied about. everybody here says this country's future hangs in the balance. but there was a lot of protests in front of the u.s. embassy. many folks here want joe biden to withdraw legislation if it's so controversial. joe biden has weighed in with light criticism but it's unclear whether or not the u.s. wants to intervene or weigh in on an issue that is so fundamentally an israeli political issue. chris? >> as those protests continue past sunset. thank you so much. appreciate that. an historic holdup.
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protocols. essentially what could have been done to prevent this baggie from eventually finding its way into the white house grounds. now two sources familiar with this requested meeting are telling my colleague, kelly o'donnell, that they say it's planned for thursday at 10:00 a.m. this packet with this substance is still at this lab continuing to have tests run on it. we know that investigators last we checked were still running through those visitor logs, the surveillance videos tries to really narrow down who could have left it there. but remember, they cautioned it may not be determined who left it there because how small it was in relation to this security footage. so the latest we know right now as i said this meeting, this briefing will be held on thursday between the secret service director and house oversight committee to go over the details of this case.
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>> thank you for that. today, two seemingly disparate events leading to one conclusion. in 2023, it's clear abortion is a driving force for the 2024 election. in iowa right now, lawmakers are in a special session considering an abortion ban. a screaming match broke out on both sides. >> murdering babies! murdering babies! stop murdering babies! >> example number two on capitol hill, a single senator trying to hold up critical military appointments by tieing them to the pentagon's abortion policy. shaquille brewster is in des moines, iowa. sahil on capitol hill. also joining us, former rnc director. shaq, let's start where you are. what is going on at the iowa state capital? >> reporter: well, despite that
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screaming match you saw and the protesters you see behind me, iowa lawmakers are moving ahead in the special section to add new abortion restrictions in this state. this bill would ban abortions after about six weeks. the text says after fetal cardiac activity is detected but medical experts say that's about six weeks into the pregnancy before most women know they are even pregnant. there are some exceptions for rape and incest if they are reported and for the health of a mother, but this really counters what you see in polling where the latest poll we saw showed about 61% of iowans say abortion should be legal in all or most cases. i want you to listen to some of the conversations i've been having with folks here on both sides about why they stand in the corner in which they stand. are you happy with the idea of a ban after six weeks? >> yeah, even earlier than that. because there's a point where
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you can stop it. that's before it ever gets started. >> it's pretty demoralizing for those of us that take care of women to have the potential of losing the ability to practice full spectrum care for our patients. >> now nearly identical version of this law was passed in 2018 but we both know how much has changed since then. at that time, the court stepped in and blocked it and permanently struck it down. now you have a more conservative state supreme court. you have the overturning of row so you no longer have that federal precedent so lawmakers are moving ahead with the legislation. there's not really much suspense here. this is expected to pass by the end of the day and the governor who called this special session is expected to sign it quickly. >> thank you for that. sahil, walk us through how one single senator is using abortion to block these military nominees. talk about the hearing i hear you were watching for us today. >> senator tuberville is
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exploiting the unique fact about the senate is they need unanimous consent to do anything quickly. for generations, the senate has been confirming these promotions by unanimous consent with no objections, no controversy. lleno ss blocking that in order to protest the pentagon's abortion travel policies. been going on for nearly four months now. military families are in limbo. for the first time since the 1850s, president biden's joint chief is warning the military is going to lose talent if this continues. all the while, tuberville is unrepentant. he insists this policy be reversed. if they want to do it, they should have to pass that through legislation which is not going to happen here in this current configuration of congress. tuberville again used this power to block this yesterday. have a listen to what he said on the floor. >> this is my 11th time to stand up here and keep harping on the
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fact that we need to do something about this new policy that the secretary of defense has passed down and passed to the military. >> now tuberville has gotten a lot of the criticism from not just democrats, but fellow republicans. it's hard to find any allies he has in this quest and at least the tactics that he is using. some republicans though are taking a light touch with him suggesting that maybe the senate vote individually on these nominees. there are literally hundreds of them. i put this to a democratic senator, it would take six to 12 months to confirm a military promotions on the table right now. he called that idea bs although he used the full form of that word. tensions are rising and the stalemate continues, chris. >> so, doug, ings what's really interesting here is that conventional wisdom and the 2022 midterms, right, argue for abortion being a motivator for
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democratic voters. that is not stopping republicans, whether it's tommy tuberville, republicans in state legislatures, from pushing more and more abortion restrictions and i'm wondering in the big political picture as a former rnc communications dreg tor, what you make of what you're seeing unfold over the abortion issue. >> well, there's a lot to unpack in it but i go back to what we saw just after the 2012 elections. where i was in richmond, virginia where eric cantor was the majority leader at the time and in that wednesday, thursday, friday after the elections, called house republican members, what did you learn in this election. overwhelmingly, we were told we have a problem on immigration. we need to do something about it. a lot of the conservative echo chamber was also saying that. every day we moved past that election, it became less of a front page issue. less of a top tier issue for republican candidates. it became more of an issue other people had to deal with.
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when you deal with the united states senate which has rulings that say anybody can hold their breath long enough, you get put in a situation like that where one person's interests will take presence over the larger interest of the party. certainly when we talk about what's going on with national defense, the world is a lot more dangerous a place today than it was just a year ago. or certainly two or five years ago. there's exasperation with tuberville in this action. there's also a lot of exasperation because we hear his name all the time. we don't hear about his senator, also his colleague, katie britt, who's a fantastic freshman senator from alabama. a lot of republican senators are putting their head down and doing good work. they're not the squeaky wheels we hear about all day long and cause that frustration on capitol hill in senate meetings. >> tuberville doesn't have to run for re-election in 2024.
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i also want to ask you about the military nominations because "the new york times" reports that mitch mcconnell does not support putting a hold on military nominations. the traditionally conservative washington examiner calls the hold on nominations of our most senior military personnel, i'm quoting them, a direct threat to national security. how long do you see him holding out on this? what do you think is going to happen here? >> look, i think it goes back to what our political award system is. it's that if you're that squeaky wheel, you get a lot of attention. tuberville did a one-on-one interview with kaitlan collins last night. he doesn't do that if he doesn't make these kinds of moves and statements. he is incentivized to be able to continue this fight regardless of whether it's for this year's elections or four years down the line when he's running. and he gets tv bookings. talked about all day every day. and if you're not paying attention to what the senate
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really does every day, you might think this is one of the more really powerful united states senators. reality is he's only be there a short period of time and he has the power like every senate does to gum up certain things. in this case, we don't have a marine corp. commandant. in texas, governor abbott has tapped a new interim attorney general because ken paxton is gearing up for his impeachment trial. long time chief of staff will become chief on friday. paxton was suspended over charges of bribery and abuse of office. he's also under investigation by the fbi. the impeachment trial is set to begin in september. and the iowa governor now former president trump's latest target. why 2024 republican candidates are rushing to her defense. we've got that, next. n candidats are rushing to her defense we've got that, next
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republicans running for president are rushing to defend a potentially critical ally. iowa governor, kim reynolds, after former president trump turned on her. trump supported her in her 2018 gubernatorial campaign but is now questioning why she's decided to remain neutral in the gop caucuses and seems to suggest she's been favoring ron desantis instead of him. doug is back with me.
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dasha burns have been covering the story, joins me here at the table. so it's donald trump or nothing, right? but what exactly has she had to say that has gotten him so angry and talk a little bit about the reaction from the other folks who were running. >> you talk to anyone involved in politics and they will tell you going after iowa's governor is a pretty bizarre move but if you look at donald trump and his history, it's not necessarily surprising, right? he very much takes credit for her getting elect as governor for opening up that seat, but this is a governor who is extremely popular in iowa. she has about a 90% approval rating among republicans. she won in her last election, 95 out of 99 counties and her voice has a whole lot of sway. so as trump is coming out attacking her, you got the other contenders coming to her defense. ron desantis, he's someone who
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has appeared with her at many of his campaign events. he's coming out saying that she is a strong leader who knows how to ignore the chirping and get it done. asa hutchison calling this behavior dictatorial on the part of trump. nikki haley commending her saying iowa grows strong women. the other contenders know this is someone you want on your side. and by the way, there's a major event happening in iowa this week. the family leadership summit, which trump is not going to attend. all of the others are going to be there. iowa is so important. it always is, of course. doesn't necessarily mean if you're in iowa you're going to be the nominee, but in this case, what iowa is going to set up, if trump wins, that pretty much all be closed the door on a trump alternative having a shot. but if he doesn't win, if ron desantis wins, scott, hailey, all these others take that
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primary. >> yeah, you overperform in iowa. that gives you an opening. >> right. >> to punctuate her point, doug, the des moines register had local reaction. a republican political operative in the state who opposed trump's re-election said quote, not how you win friends in iowa and an influential evangelical leader referenced the forest gump line, stupid is as stupid does and added quote, my mom says don't call anyone stupid, however, this isn't smart. iowa is wide open. you know it well. trump's been teflon but could this hurt him? >> the iowa republican strategist you mentioned, i spoke to him this morning on this topic specifically. and look, there is a sense there that this is like forest gump, stupid is as stupid does. we have to caveat things with trump a bit.
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in vermont today, dangerous flash floods made some roads so impassable that the governor, phil scott, had to hike through the woods to make it to an emergency response center. he tweeted out these photos of himself to find an open road. vermont has tripled its rescue team since it was inundated by hurricane irene in 2011 but it hasn't helped with this storm. they've called in help from north carolina and connecticut. i want to bring in jennifer morris, vermont's public safety commissioner. thanks for being with us. what is the biggest threat in vermont right now? >> hi, chris. thanks for having me. the biggest threat is that this is not over. the rain has stopped in some parts of the state and the sun has come out and unfortunately, our rivers have not crested.
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we have not seen all the high water marks we're going to see. i think that's our biggest concern now is that people feel we've turned a corner and we have not. >> let me ask you about one example. in our last hour, kristen dahlgren reported from the capital that there's a concern about a major dam overflowing. how worried are you about that? anything being done to prevent it? >> oh, sure. there's mitigation regarding that there are water pathways that are built in as basically there's a term for it but sorry, i'm not a dam engineer. there are pathways for releases when it has too much water. there are obviously controlled releases that can be done and there are overages. we are keeping a close eye on that particular dam but it does raise an important point that in the city of monte peel yar,
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there was a lot of water in the streets and that has started to recede and there could be another round of flooding in this area and others if that dam exceeds its capacity. >> do you have any sense of how many people have left their homes? vermont obviously a huge and stunningly beautiful area for people to vacation. i spent a lot of time there. lived in upstate new york for many, many years. go on weekends to vermont. just in terms of the people. the movement of people, the help folks might need to get away from places that are flooding. how is that system set up? >> so we began messaging on sunday afternoon and we have had our state of emergency operations center operating since then. we've done a lot of public outreach. we've been using our vt alerts system. we've been using signage on the
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aot boards on the highway. we've been doing consistent outreach to visitors and citizens alike as the storm forecast has progressed. obviously, the images that you are seeing are of unimaginable and heartbreaking wreckage from a weather related disaster the likes of which we have not seen in almost 100 years in vermont. >> wow. 100 years. besides those rescues, we talked about the help you're getting in terms of rescues from crew, other states that are experienced in that. are you getting help from elsewhere around the country and what kind do you still need? do you have the resources you need? >> so thanks for that question. our vermont swift water rescue teams are being augmented by teams currently from massachusetts, connecticut, and north carolina. i believe we have federal teams inbound or on the ground already and i am told that there may be additional teams from other states coming in to provide more
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swift water rescue assets. we have five helicopters from the new hampshire and vermont national guards that are helping with both rescues and with being our eyes in the sky. and we have unmanned ariel aviation assets to help us again assess the flooding impacts to try and find people who might be critically isolated and needing rescue. so yeah, we have a lot of eyes in the sky helping us. i think it's fair to say there's never too many assets in play as long as you can manage them throughout the duration of an emergency like this. but i know we're also going to have a lot of needs on the back end as we shift to a recovery mode. right now, what we need is for the rain and the weather to cooperate a little bit and for everyone who is potentially in harm's way to remember that we are still in the thick of this. our rivers have not crested and
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you really must seek higher ground and pay attention to the public messages going out. >> we will leave folks with that thought. i can't even imagine that you're getting much, if any, sleep. so we really appreciate the time you've taken to talk to us and we wish you all very well. appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. a huge gulf controversy lands on capitol hill. what went down during the grilling of the pga tour's coo. that's next. e pga tour's coo atth's next. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ what do we always say, son? liberty mutual customizes your car insurance... so you only pay for what you need. that's my boy. now you get out there, and you make us proud, huh? ♪ bye, uncle limu. ♪ stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ (pensive music) (footsteps crunching)
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today, two pga tour officials facing tough questions on capitol hill. in a senate subcommittee hearing on the controversial and surprise merger of the pga tour and liv golf, two former rivals. but the hearing is about more than just golf. according to the chair, richard blumenthal. >> it's about how a brutal, repressive regime can buy influence and even take over a cherished american institution. to cleanse its public image. garrett haake is with me. also, joely shay. thank you both for being here. garrett, what kinds of questions are pga tour officials facing today? >> well, chris, bulk of the questions were about this idea of sports watching.
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why did the pga tour feel it was necessary to take this investment from this saudi sovereign wealth fund here. why did they feel it was necessary to make this partnership with an organization up until the moment the partnership was announced, they had been criticizing including for human rights violations and sports washing. using your money to cleanse your reputation by associating you with sports or 9/11 or the murder of. >> no amount of money can wash away the stain of murder. >> the reality is that because some men from saudi arabia were part of the nightmare of september 11st, suspicion has lingered about the complexity of
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others. if any person had the remotist connection to the murder of my friend, i am the last guy that would be sitting at a table. >> the other argument we heard from these executives today, chris, is that liv golf was essentially bleeding the pga tour. they were peeling off top flight players and had an almost unlimited amount of money to spend to build this competitive product and the tour decided if you can't beat them, try to join them. they developed this agreement, which is still tentative, here with the liv golf operation that would make them a minority partner. i think a lot more questions will come from congress. this is the first hearing on this topic than the last. >> so joey, i wonder what you make of what you hear, if you can't beat them, join them. if these were not the guys responsible for the bad things that have happened as a result of this regime. your reaction to what you saw on
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the hill today. >> i think it's clear the agreement between the public investment fund, and the pga tour equals the saudi government's efforts to sports watch its record. it's not the firm of a private saudi citizen. it is one of the most important organs of the saudi state. saudi government money that is going to take over effectively an entire league. again, this deal is not just a deal that has, is taking over a single player or a particular tournament. it effectively grants the saudi government entire control over an entire sports league. >> "the washington post" reports that former at&t ceo has
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resigned his post on the pga tour, writing that he has serious concerns about the tour's controversial partnership with the saudi arabian public investment fund. does that send a signal, does even having a congressional hearing today send a signal? how important is keeping this in the public eye from your perspective? >> it's incredibly important and this was an incredibly important signal to send. what's important is that not only is it a major vehicle to fund mbs's sports watching efforts, but it's also directly implicated in human rights abuses itself. one of the companies, sky prime aviation, which funded the planes which drove back and forth to istanbul carrying the hit squad is under, is part of
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the pif. so i think it's incredibly important this resignation happens and that these hearings are ongoing and that this is not just about sports washing. it's about the abuses being perpetrated more broadly. >> joey, garrett, thank you both so much. we just learned in the last 20 minutes that two new grand juries have been selected in georgia with the power to potentially indict a former president. fulton county d.a. willis has been investigating whether donald trump and his allies interfered in georgia's 2020 election and if she decides to pursue charges, this is the group that will have to sign off. i want to bring in former federal prosecutors and msnbc analyst, carol. let's start with the timing this investigation started. more than two years ago. what does the seating of these two new grand juries tell us about how much longer it might take before we get a decision to charge or not to charge? >> well, chris, if there was going to ever be indictments
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related to election fraud in 2020, there was going to have to be a new grand jury impanelled to hear it because the original grand jury that we heard all about last year, that was a special grand jury and under georgia law, special grand juries cannot bring criminal indictments. so all they could do is make a recommendation with respect to charges and potential individuals who should be charged. we heard some hints given to us by the foreperson of that grand jury, but they themselves could not bring the actual charges so there was going to be to have a new grand jury impanelled, a new grand jury that could bring criminal charges against anybody. so in terms of timing, we have gotten a lot of hints about timing because willis, for example, wrote a letter to the chief judge in her court system. the state court system. saying that for example, she was going to ask members of her own
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office to stay home and work remotely during certain days in august. and we have heard that charges, if they are brought, are likely to be brought during the month of august. >> in the meantime, our nbc news team reports there are two separate grand juries, both made up of of 22 jurors and three alternates. why two? would she use both? how would that work? >> it's very hard to tell. i think that the grand jury system in the georgia state courts, they regularly impanel on a regular schedule new grand juries. so the fact they impanelled two new grand juries does not necessarily suggest that both grand juries are going to be involved in hearing the evidence about january 6th. there's a lot of crime that takes place in atlanta, georgia that had nothing to do with january 6th. so it could be that this was
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just two grand juries that were impanelled in the normal course. one would probably be dealing with the january 6th event. sorry, not the january 6th events, but actually the election fraud interference. the election interference events. the other one might be doing regular atlanta criminal grand jury duties. so it's very hard to tell. i'd say it would be highly unusual to have two grand juries hearing evidence with respect to the same events. so i don't think that's actually going to happen here. >> carol lam, always good to have you on the program. thank you for that. now to some prime deals for prime day. bank of america projecting that this year's amazon prime day could generate $12 billion in sales. let's bring in cnbc's morgan brennan for cnbc on msnbc. morgan, what deals can shoppers score on? we hear price line is partnering with amazon for travel deals. something people don't often associate with amazon. give us the latest.
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>> all right, chris. first ever travel discounts as amazon partners with price line for an extra 20% off of deals. retail spending has slowed but americans are shelling out on travel. over the next two days, amazon is pushing deep discounts on millions of items. everything from air pods and watches to samsung smartphones, tvs, laptops. some of the best deals tied to amazon's own devices and products as is typically the case but the stakes are high. the promotion tends to be an early indicator of shopping patterns. it comes as a pivotal moment for consumers. amazon is projected to make almost $13 billion from this year's prime day. that's up about 11% from last year according to insider intelligence and since other retailers have joined this
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summer shopping extravaganza, walmart and target could record billions in sales. it's not just about selling as many products as possible. it's also about getting as many people to sign up for the annual prime membership as possible since you need one to actually access these deals. prime members, very valuable to amazon. bank of america survey found prime members spend nearly $2,000 annually. that's four times more than non prime members. >> always good to see you. thank you. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for chris jansing reports every weekday. 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern. our coverage continues very shortly with katy tur after this quick break. katy tur after this quick break. re slicing their meats fresh. that's why the new titan turkey is proffered by pros like me. and by pros who can actually dunk, like me. and if we proffer it we know you'll proffer it too. i can dunk if i want to. every day, more dog people are deciding it's time for a fresh approach to pet food.
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