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this hour on "ana cabrera reports," breaking news, the long awaited nato meeting between president biden and ukraine's president zelenskyy. any minute now, the u.s. president meets with the wartime leader as ukraine pushes to join the alliance. plus, breaking economic news here at home, inflation hitting a two-year low. where we're seeing relief and what's still costing a pretty penny. also ahead, historic and catastrophic.
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flood waters beginning to recede in vermont leaving disaster behind. while the west and the south suffer through record breaking heat that shows no signs of letting up. >> this summer is worse than all of the past surveillance. >> i came to the park prepared because i knew without it i'd die out here. and more breaking news out of iowa where republicans have passed a six-week abortion ban. we're live in des moines with reaction. it is 10:00 eastern, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we begin with the breaking news overseas on this final day of the nato summit. president biden just about to meet with ukraine's zelenskyy in lithuania any minute now. you can see them in the room. they just sat down. let's listen. >> i'm going to support you, and i hope we finally have put to bed the notion about whether or not ukraine is welcome in nato. it's going to happen, we're moving in the right direction. i think it's just a matter of getting by the next few months
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here. so thank you, thank you, thank you, and you know, it's hard to believe 500 days. it's easy for me, because mostly i've been in and out of ukraine before the war, i will say again what i've said to you many times, not only all of you, but your people, your sons, your daughters, your husbands, your wives, your friends, you're incredible. ukraine, the whole world's seen the courage. i mean this from the bottom of my heart, the courage and commitment of the average ukrainian. when you see a 65-year-old woman on television after her apartment's been bombed out picking up the pieces and going to help the next door neighbor. i mean, it's just astounding. you're setting an example for the whole world for what constitutes genuine courage. from the bottom of my heart, i
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mean that, what courage means. and you know, i think it's your resilience and your resolve has been a model for the whole world to see, and the frustration i can only imagine. i know you're many times frustrated about will things get to you quickly enough and what's getting to you and how we're getting there. i promise you the united states is doing everything that we can to get you what you need as rapidly as we can get it to you. and the secretary of defense has been a constant, constant, how can i say it? refrain from the defense department and calling other secretaries of defense around the world to say let's get some help. so i just want you to know it's real, and you know, here in vilnius, we held the first, as you well know, ukraine council, but you and i talked about this
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before hand about the commitment, the security commitments we were going to make while it becomes official, until it becomes official, is i think -- and i think that's important. i want to tell you, when i got here, mr. president, and i started to sell that idea to other heads of state, there was no reluctance. there was no i don't want to, everybody just said okay, we'll sign on. so it's real. you've done an enormous job. you have a lot more to do i know, and i just think that, you know, we're going to make sure that you get what you need, and i look forward to the day when we're having the meeting celebrating your official, official membership in nato. so thank you for what you're doing, and the bad news for you is we're not going anywhere. you're stuck with us.
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thank you. >> thank you very much, mr. president. and i will start -- you said about 500 days is really, really a difficult jolt for our people. soldiers and civilians, mothers, fathers, children fought for their life, and for these values and thank you very much that all these days you are with us. i mean, you and americans, americans and congress, i mean, thank you, mr. president, that you like we say shoulder to shoulder with us from first days of full scale war. we appreciate for this very much, and really, really, you
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know, we understand your support because when you give such messages and when you gave sometimes some weapons -- i'm sorry, but i want to say like i said during our meeting, our council that it' very simple to criticize, for example, cluster munition, which you made difficult political decision, but you have to know that russia used such weapons from the first days not only full scare war from first days of occupation of crimea from 2015 in all of our territories. in donbas they used it and now they continue doing. and that you gave this decision will help us to safe us, and that's why my appreciation for this. and i didn't hear from all the
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parts of the world when russia began to use it, i didn't hear that some of countries criticized russia, you know, but i think that it was very useful to putin, so thank you so much help. we really counted on it, not only on this, and you gave us huge support. i want to thank to all americans. we understand that it's more than 43 billion for today, it's big support, and i understand that this all your money, but you have to know that you spend this money for not just fighting. you spend this money for our lives, and i think that we save the lives for europe and for all the world. so thank you very much for this
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also summit. at the end of the summit we had this great success and security guarantees as you said, that we began to speak about it in kyiv, so now we see that we have -- you have great idea that g-7, and now i know that also there are countries which joined to g-7 decision, and i think it will help very much because its real effect. so thank you. >> well, thank you, and thank you for acknowledging the american people. i think it's correct that we are a large country, but i think we've given more than every other nation combined in terms of assistance and costs, and the american people are supportive.
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they're supportive because they know it's about you. it's about more than you. it's about innocent people around the world, and the absolute brutality with which putin is acting and the russians are moving on is -- it just sounds like something out of the 14th century the way they're acting. and i can't emphasize enough -- and by the way, i know you thanked them, but i think we talked about it before i went to tokyo a year, a couple years ago. the idea that kishida is increasing the defense budget, having to lower their domestic budget to aid directly and get directly involved in what's happening in ukraine is
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remarkable. the sad, sad news is your in this situation. the incredible news is it's bringing the world together. it's bringing the world together in a way that's a hell of a price to pay, but it's bringing the world together, and people are realizing that we just can't stand by and let this kind of aggression occur. at any rate, i and we got a lot to about it so somebody's going to have to say the press has to leave. >> president zelenskyy, are you satisfied with what you got from nato? you were so frustrated yesterday. is this -- are you satisfied, sir? >> thank you so much. >> thanks, everybody. >> okay. looks like they are not taking questions right now. you've been listening to president biden and ukraine's president zelenskyy. oh, wait, let's listen in again, guys, if we can. it looks like ukraine's president is speaking. >> success for this summit, i think so but it's my opinion.
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thank you. >> thank you so much. >> president zelenskyy, how soon after the war would you like to be in nato? how soon after the war would you like to join nato? >> an hour and 20 minutes. you guys ask really insightful questions. >> all right, guys, time to get out. >> i was hoping we might get a little bit more there, but now they're going to have their private one-on-one. perhaps we'll hear more from them on the back said of that meeting. let's bring in monica alba in lithuania, kelly cobiella is standing by in ukraine, and also with us, evelyn farkas, former adviser to the supreme allied commander in europe. as they go into the meeting, the president talking about the ukrainian people, praising their courage, and promising the u.s. will provide whatever it is ukraine needs to win this war. obviously a lot on the line right now. >> yes, and for as long as as it
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takes in the words of president president biden, ana, that's right. the two presidents meeting there face-to-face during this critical summit, and it really has been a very interesting evolution of president zelenskyy's own comments heading into this first expressing sincere frustration and disappointment with the fact there wasn't going to be a clearer time line for when ukraine could become a member of nato. then you saw there toe seated next to the american president, the ukrainian president very grateful, he says, for all of the steps that have been taken now to get ukraine closer to that possibility. the fact that there is going to be this fast track, and you saw president biden seeming will e -- seemingly joking there when asked how soon ukraine should be able to join nato, president biden said an hour and 20 minutes.
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essentially clearing that pathway. ukraine does need to work on some democratic and security reforms in order to continue that membership in a more formal way. but president zelenskyy there did say he was happy but he continued to have to on behalf of his country and those fighting ask for this continued support and defend that he has been receiving, he acknowledged those controversial cluster munitions that the u.s. is going to be spending thanking president biden for that specifically. the president also acknowledged president zelenskyy's frustration directly saying that that was something that he understood, that throughout this entire war now 500 days plus, he hasn't always been satisfied with how quickly he got what he was asking for, but the american president, again, continuing to pledge this unity, this support for ukraine saying that anything essentially that he's asked for they have been able to at least support in some fashion, and now more and more nato countries are going to be able to step up and
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do the same with these major commitments in order to help ukraine continue to build up its military to deter any potential future attack or invasion. >> there's also been a sense of desperation from zelenskyy. we know the counteroffensive has hit some bumps. ukraine running low on ammunition. zelenskyy has expressed the frustration that nato isn't welcoming ukraine with open arms, even though the alliance has contributed significant weapons and other aid. how are the people of ukraine feeling about the state of the war and the strength of zelenskyy's leadership? >> i think he was under immense pressure going into this summit to get something, to bring something back to his people show that ukraine was on a path toward nato and there was a clear path toward nato, and that's why you saw those very strong statements yesterday as he was heading into the summit in lithuania where he called that statement that ukraine
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would join when allies agree and conditions are met very vague, and he called it absurd, and it's because people here really want to have some sort of concrete time line. they want to know that when the war ends and they are aware that this has to wait until the war ends, but they want to know that when the war ends, they will be invited in. people on the battlefield, soldiers, commandersy, look, we're proving our mettle on the battlefield, theoretical fighting against the enemy is one thing, but we're actually doing it. we have the experience. we can give that to nato. we can be a part of nato to strengthen the alliance, not just to take from the alliance. so there was an awful lot of pressure on president zelenskyy going in. i think there's probably a bit of disappointment here among the population that there isn't a firm statement coming out of nato saying absolutely this is
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the date or this is the time, as soon as the war is over, even though you heard president biden just now say, yeah, you're coming into the fold as soon as we can clear up the security situation on the ground as well as some other things that ukraine needs to go through once the war is over. monica mentioned the democratic reforms, also some anticorruption reforms, but you know, the idea here is that people wanted some sort of guarantee. they got some of what they wanted. they didn't get all of what they wanted. people are somewhat satisfied that the g-7 is going to provide some of the security guarantees. that will make them feel better in the longer term, as opposed to just getting weapons sort of piecemeal as they ask for them, but they didn't get the big prize, ana. >> right. i was watching the body language and official expressions during that brief, you know, opportunity for us to get a
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sneak peek before their meeting, evelyn. i was curious to get your reaction to the president's comments with zelenskyy and just the demeanor of the two men? >> yeah, it's interesting, ana, because that was the first thing that really struck me was how candid and really real this conversation appeared to be. it didn't -- it wasn't scripted. president zelenskyy, first of all, i had commented on his english. he's really improved his english language capability from when ukraine was first invaded. obviously it's been a necessity for him, but both men really appeared to be speaking from the heart and from the head, you know, saying what they really felt and thought. it was a constructive conversation. they were both positive, which i think is the right way to approach this. the whole, you know, summit thus far has really been a resounding success for the united states and our nato allies, and it's been a huge success for ukraine as well. there was unanimity among the
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nato allies that ukraine must become a nato member. yes, there's no date certain. i certainly would have liked a tate certain. i would have liked to clear a path. i am one of those people who actually thinks that there's merit in inviting ukraine into nato right now even though it's tricky and you would have to manage the risk around the ongoing fighting and those territories that couldn't be covered by the security guarantees, but nevertheless, this summit was a clear and very different summit from any of the other summits. if you're sitting in the kremlin, you have to be much more nervous than you were a year ago or six months ago. >> let me follow up on that, you said you are among the mind-set that it could happen now, that ukraine could be admitted to nato even though there's the article 5 mandate that an attack against one is an attack against all and essentially president biden has said that would mean if ukraine became part of nato, all of nato, including the u.s.
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would be at war with russia. and zelenskyy is expressing concern that ukraine's nato membership could be used in some kind of outside negotiation with putin right now, one, is his concern valid, and two, how could it be that the u.s. and the other 30 plus nato nations now would allow ukraine in without being in a full blown world war iii? >> so my understanding, ana, is that there are nato members who would allow ukraine and who would be potentially in favor of letting them in now, but obviously the united states and many others aren't in favor of that. it would not mean immediate war with russia because the way you would to it would be to only provide the security guarantee to ukraine in those territories, that portion of their government that they -- that portion of their state that they control right now. so there are ways to work around it. we did it during the cold war
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when we had west berlin in the middle of soviet territory, in the middle of west -- in east germany rather where we, you know, we said okay, we're going to allow that and we're not going to -- you know, the security guarantee will be managed accordingly. so there are ways to work around it, but i think the most important thing is that i worry and i think president zelenskyy is also worried that if ukraine doesn't get a date certain there will be, first of all, less motivation on the part of the west and incing japan, and i'm so glad you guys brought that up or at least rather the president brought that up. there will be less motivation to move quickly to help ukraine win, and the russians may use the opportunity to keep the war going. if we're signaling we won't let ukraine in until the war is over, putin will want to drag it out. >> so much more to discuss, obviously, this is a complex war and the dynamics in that region very complex. evelyn farkas, monica alba, and kelly cobiella, appreciate the
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conversations, ladies, thank you. new numbers out this morning showing inflation at a two-year low. which prices are actually dropping and which remain stubbornly high? also, while inflation is cooling off, the weather isn't. we are on the ground covering the historic flooding and record breaking heat. you won't believe just how hot the ocean is right now in florida. and later, who doesn't love a cinderella story. meet the american tennis player making his mark at wimbledon. wimbl. this is american infrastructure.
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price hikes are working. you can see how the markets are reacting this morning. the dow up 277 points. joining us now from the big board, nbc news business and data reporter brian cheung. break down this report for us. what happened in june compared to last year? >> good morning, and by the way, that 9% figure that you talked about, that was the peak inflation. we've come down quite far since then. as you mentioned, yes, 3%, that is the rate of inflation if we're measuring pricing in june of this year to june of last year. that's a slower pace than the 4% we saw in may. a whole percentage point increase. it's really an improvement, but not yet mission accomplished. the federal reserve really wants to see this somewhat closer than 2%. markets are still pricing in the odds of another interest rate hike in an effort to try to further lower this even though we've had quite a lot of progress. >> let's get to the nitty-gritty here, break down the data by category. >> i am your data reporter after all. let's break down the different
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categories that the consumer price index measures, food, energy, and shelter. the pace of price increases has actually slowed for both food and shelter, so, again, if we're talking about these are monthly figures between april and may, food prices went up by 0.2%. dining at restaurants, for example, shelter, this is the largest cost for most americans, rent just to put the roof over your head or mortgage payments slowing from 0.6 of a monthly pace to 0.4 of a monthly pace. energy, however, went the opposite way. so prices, for example, gasoline did go down between april and may. it went up slightly between may and june. i want to also point out the yearly changes for the many things that americans spend on, eggs, milk, bread. when you take a look at these categories over the year, eggs have come back down to earth. milk has gone down, $4.15 last year, now about $4 a gallon.
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bread has gone up in prices. $1.69 for a loaf, now $1.94. gasoline, this is the big improvement for a lot of americans. down from $5.15 a gallon to $3.82 as of right now. so certainly encouraging news for those trying to hit the road this summer. >> love seeing the deflation, prices actually going down, not sort of tapering off. brian cheung, good news, thank you for bringing that to us. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," iowa republicans pass a new abortion ban overnight. the strict limitations now facing women in that state. plus, two grand juries seated in georgia. what we know about the jurors who could decide whether donald trump faces another indictment. . try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv arthritis pain? we say not today.
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succession last night. the reaction from protesters who were on stan by there in the gallery was immediate and emotional. >> no! >> shame! shame! shame! >> well, this bill is now headed to governor kim reynolds' desk. she said she will sign it on friday. nbc's shaq brewster joins us from des moines, iowa. shaq, we heard the boos. we saw the cameras shaking because of the reaction in the room. you've been talking to a lot of folks there. how is this bill being received by the people of iowa? >> reporter: yeah, and what you didn't see in that shot is that some people in the rafters in the balcony of the senate chamber, they were actually escorted out by state troopers. so this is certainly receiving a lot of attention here in the state of iowa that currently allows abortions up to 20 weeks. but this six-week ban will be enacted immediately upon
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governor reynolds signature meaning that illegal access to abortion nationwide continues to fall. this morning iowa on the verge of enacting a new restrictive ban on abortion. despite hours of intense protests and strong debate -- >> the bill is declared to have passed the senate, and the title was agreed to. >> reporter: iowa lawmakers overnight passing legislation blocking the procedure after the detection of cardiac activity, banning abortion at roughly six weeks before most women know they're pregnant. >> if they're not prepared to have a baby, they shouldn't have sex. >> reporter: iowa republicans passed the nearly identical version in 2018 that was quickly blocked by the courts, but that law came before the u.s. supreme court overturned roe v. wade, and republicans hope a more conservative state supreme court will let this stand. >> what kind of impact would this have on the abortion care you provide. >> it would have a huge impact.
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this would affect almost all the patients that we see. >> reporter: the bill includes exemptions to protect the life of the mother and for rape and incest if reported to law enforcement, public health authorities, or a doctor. >> if this bill becomes law, women will die in iowa, common sense has walked out the door. >> reporter: iowa's governor promising to sign the bill into law on fri. friday. iowa would become the 16th state restricting abortion access to six weeks or less. 14 of those ban the procedure with few exceptions. >> as soon as that child is conceived, it's a child, it's a life. >> reporter: most iowans say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, including 70% of women, but this morning the limited providers across the state are scrambling saeg saying they're unsure of what happens next. >> i want to continue practicing medicine, and i think the language is so vague that i need
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to know when i can intervene to save a woman's life. >> reporter: some of the clinics throughout iowa have already been moving up abortion appointments to this week, if they were scheduled for later this week or even next week, and many of them are already planning for ways to provide that care for women out of state. you know, this debate has already had an impact in this state. the number of iowans who travel to minnesota to receive abortion care just last year tripled, ana. >> really enlightening to hear the mind-set of some of those lawmakers. thank you so much for that report, shaq brewster. two grand juries have now been seated in georgia, 52 jurors in total. they could decide whether the former president faces charges for 2020 election interference in that state. let's bring in msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin now. talk to us, what do we know about the makeup of these grand
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juries and the jury selection? >> they weren't asked about trump, but they were asked primarily about things like hardship, is there anything that would prevent you from participating in this grand jury. you don't have to show up every day, but they do require a quorum. so in a grand jury of 23, there have to be enough people there every day for the grand jury to do its business. we know from fani willis that she also expecting to be able to present evidence in such a if fashion that charges could be forthcoming anytime between july 31st and august 18th. this term of the grand jury ends on september 21st. >> why two grand juries? >> neither of these grand juries as we understand it is specific to the trump or election interference case. they are hearing a variety of other cases at the same time. we don't expect that both of them are also involved in this investigation. one is more likely than both. >> okay, we know that they are almost equal men and women, people of all walks of laf.
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>> teachers, court officers and the like. >> we'll be obviously following developments there in georgia. i also want to ask about another legal case impacting trump and his world. the justice department now reversing course in its plan to defend the former president in his defamation lawsuit with writer e. jean carroll. you were in the courtroom during that first trial. can you explain why the doj would have been in a position to defend trump to begin with and then what this now means for the case moving forward? >> sure, it's a little bit complicated. it wasn't the first suit filed -- this was the first suit filed, not the first suit tried. that allows the department of justice under a federal -- the right defendant is the united states, not trump. also to move to dismiss that
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case. that's what trump was banking on. that's why the second case which involves statements he made after his presidency was actually tried first. donald trump shot himself in the foot effectively. he made the same statements that he made during his presidency after them, and that's what allowed the department of justice to tell judge kaplan and the parties here the fact that he said the same things after his presidency, that he did during it, shows that he wasn't primarily motivated by a desire to serve the government, it was personal animus. >> so they're just wiping their hands clear of it. >> lisa rubin, you always put things in easy to understand ways. thank you so much. histori flooding in vermont beginning to recede. plus, in the hot seat, fbi director christopher wray getting grilled right now on the hill. the questions he's facing. hill the questions he's facing. knowt every load of laundry could be worth as much as $300? really? and your clothes just keep getting more damaged the more times you wash them. downy protects fibers, doing more than detergent alone. see?
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testifying before congress. these are live pictures. it's already proving to be a contentious hearing. he's facing pointed questions from republicans on the judiciary committee, weaponizing the agency against former president donald trump. >> the fbi would somehow be involved in suppressing references to the lab leak theory is somewhat absurd when you consider the fact that the fbi was the only -- the only agency in the entire intelligence community to reach the assessment that it was more likely than not that that was the explanation -- >> but your agents pulled it off the internet, sir, that's what the evidence and the court has found. >> the time of the gentleman has expired. the gentleman from new york is recognized. >> director wray, house republicans have attacked the execution of the search warrant of mar-a-lago last august as an unprecedented raid.
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would you consider the execution of the search warrant at mar-a-lago a raid? >> i would not call it a raid. i would call it the execution of a lawful search warrant. >> can you describe how the search was executed? >> well, we had the case team, you know, follow its standard procedure. it has sometimes been described as a s.w.a.t. operation. it was not. there was no s.w.a.t. involvement, but beyond that, i think i want to be really careful, we're getting too far into the details now that this case is not only in the hands of a special counsel, but more importantly in my view, in front of the court, and i learned a long time ago as a line prosecutor and defense lawyer to respect the court process is where i think we should speak. >> were particular steps taken to make sure the execution of the search warrant did not draw undue attention? >> i think there were steps along those lines, yes, sir. >> can you name a couple of them? >> well, among other things we did not have people coming in so-called raid jackets, which is
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often something you would see. >> the fbi agents executing the search wore plain clothes. the fbi waited until trump had left mar-a-lago to execute the search. is that correct? >> yes. >> and chairman jordan has attacked the doj and the fbi for not attempting to get the documents back from trump consensually before turning to a search warrant. i want to walk through all the opportunities trump had to produce these documents and have a series of yes or no questions. the national archives, first asked trump to return all presidential records to them in may 2021, correct? >> well, i don't remember the date, but i remember there was a request by the national archives. >> and then throughout 2021, nara made repeated follow-up requests but still trump refused to comply, correct? >> yes, i would refer you to the pleadings that have been filed in court that lay out in better detail than i could here. >> it was not until january 2022, after nara warned trump that failing to return documents
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could violate the presidential records agent that trump produced 15 boxes of documents to it, recollect? >> again, i would just refer to our court filings. >> and even these 15 boxes did not contain all the documents trump was required to turn. >> that's my recollection. >> so in may 2022 a grand jury had to subpoena trump for the missing documents, correct? >> same answer, yeah. >> and trump was then present on june 3rd when his attorneys handed over another folder of documents and a certification that all classified material had been returned, correct? >> again, i just want to stick with what's in the court filings. that sounds right to me, but i want to be careful to stay within the four corners. >> but the certification was false, right, even then trump had not returned all classified material, correct? >> i think that is part of the indictment. >> he had additional documents hiding in his bathroom and his storage room, in his storage units, et cetera, yes in. >> again, i think that's part of the indictment. >> and so finally doj and fbi
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were required to obtain a search warrant to obtain the classified documents that had not been retained, correct? >> same answer. >> the documents retrieved during that search included 69 marked confidential, 98 secret, and 30 top secret. is that correct? >> same answer. so to sum up, president trump had many, many chances to voluntarily comply with fbi and doj's requests. instead he made the choice to keep these highly classified defense and national security documents apparently because he wanted a souvenir. i find myself in a strange position of agreeing with former attorney general bill barr's statement that trump brought this on himself and i would add that it's absurd that house republicans are attacking the fbi and doj for doing their job and ensuring that no person is above the law. i yield back. >> gentleman yields back. the gentleman from kentucky is recognized for five minutes. >> director wray in light of information provided to us about the fbi's investigation of the
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january 6th pipe bombs, in an interview with assistant director steven, chairman jordan and i sent you a letter a month ago. some of the information that we found in that interview was that phone data that could have helped to identify the pipe bomber was corrupted, was unusable. he also wasn't sure who found or how the second bomb was found at the dnc. do you know how the second bomb was found at the dnc? and when do you plan on answering our letter? >> well, as to the letter, i will work with the department to make sure we can figure out what information we can provide. as you know, this is a very active, ongoing investigation and there are some restrictions on that. >> we can handle classified information, and we fund your department, and so you need to provide that. >> it's not -- respectfully, it's not an issue of classification. it's an issue of commenting on ongoing criminal investigations,
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which is something that by long standing department policy we are restricted in doing, and in fact, the last administration actually strengthened those policies partly because -- >> that's not our policy, though, and we fund you, so let's move on. do you know how the second -- can you tell us how the second pipe bomb was found at the dnc? >> again, i'm not going to get into that here. >> 900 days ago is when this happened, and you said you had total confidence we'd apprehend the subject. we've found video that looks like somebody, a passer-by miraculously found this pipe bomb at the dnc and then notified the police. miraculously i say because it was at specifically the same -- the precise time to cause the maximum distraction from the events going on at the capitol. can you show this video that we have, please? i'd like to know if the dresht director has seen this. this is somebody with a mask on wearing a hat. they're walking in front of the dnc, which is out of the view on
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the right-hand side. you'll see them come into view. he goes to one police car. he goes to another police car. he's holding a backpack. he's got a mask on. he's talking to the police, and within a minute, they start scrambling. you'll see the camera turn to the pipe bomb, the location of the pipe bomb. by the way, the metro police are not getting out of their car, and that's vice president-elect detail in the black suv. >> okay, we are going to continue to monitor this hearing. again, the fbi director christopher wray you see there taking questions on all kinds of topics from republicans and democrats that are on the house judiciary committee. i want to bring in nbc's ryan nobles on capitol hill who's been monitoring the hearing from the very beginning. also with us, former fbi senior intelligence adviser phillip mud. ryan, talk to us more about what we've heard in this testimony so far. >> well, ana, this is pulling out how we thought it was going to go. republicans view the fbi right now as an organization that needs to be rooted out, that they believe that there is a
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deep state conspiracy that kind of originates within the fbi, and they believe that christopher wray is not doing enough to try to put in the necessary reforms to make that happen. we've seen the chairman of the judiciary committee jim jordan being very forceful in his questioning of christopher wray to that end, and we've seen the fbi director going to great lengths to try and correct that record. his opening statement went into detail about all the work that the fbi is doing, the many, many agents at work under his charge that are working on things like dealing with issues at the border, the fentanyl crisis, combatting terrorism, things along those lines. it's not really enough for these house republicans who have apparently a different agenda. listen to what jim jordan and how he was pressing the director earlier during his testimony. >> when the court says the fbi misled, that's a nice way of saying they lied. they lied and as a result important information was kept
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from we the people days before the most important election we have. >> i want to talk about the here breadth and impact of the work the fbi's 38,000 employees are doing each and every day because the work, the men and women of the fbi do to protect the american people goes way beyond the one or two investigations that seem to capture all the headlines. >> reporter: and so we'll have to see how the rest of this plays out. there is a degree of cover that house republicans are trying to provide the former president donald trump, many of whom they are still very much supportive of, and part of their effort here is somewhat of a pr campaign to try and tarnish the image of the fbi as these investigations into the former president continue. of course we've already played a little bit of the back and forth as it relates to the investigation into the classified documents situation of which the president is already urn indictment, but there's also ongoing investigations as it relates to his role in the attempts to
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overturn the 2020 election, and then of course the insurrection attempt during january 6th. so these are all issues that house republicans care very much about, and it's going to be under chris wray's charge here to try and to a certain extent correct the record on behalf of these agents that work under him, and important to remind our viewers that christopher wray is a donald trump appointee, which is sometimes lost in these conversations. >> exactly. that's why i don't understand, phil, why he has become such a target of the gop. he is a trump appointee. >> because if you look at what's happened over the past five or ten years, there's an effort by both sides to use law enforcement and the the president of justice for political purposes. let me give you one simple definition of a successful democracy, ana, politicians don't tell investigators and law enforcement which other politicians to investigate. trump and his team said lock her
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up. democrats on the other side before the facts were in said former fbi director mueller to bring charges against president trump. now we have the department of justice saying you should investigate our adversaries including the son of the current president. when you see politicians increasingly feeling comfortable telling judges and law enforcement what to do, you should be uncomfortable. that's where we're aheaded. >> what's your assessment of the job direct wray is doing? >> i'd give him an a. one of the challenges -- the best director, i worked at the white house, the cia, fbi, i saw everybody under the planet, director mueller stayed under the radar because he realized in very difficult circumstances after 9/11 that the more you speak, the better target you are. wray has been under incredible pressure by both sides, democrats and republicans to speak about political issues. remember what happens when you
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speak about political issues. that's james comey who spoke about the election before hillary clinton. don't to it. so wray is taking a lot of heat, he's measured, cool under pressure. i think he gets an a. >> some phil. some republicans have moved to impeach director wray and attorney general merrick garland. there is no evidence of wrongdoing in how the cases involving trump or hunter biden that republicans like to point to have been handled. how concerned are you about public trust in these agencies, these institutions? >> i am concerned. next time you go to a high profile investigation with a political climate, people will say who do we trust, the politicians or the investigators? i feel with the investigators, the politicians are saying trust us, i don't buy it, ana. >> philip mudd and ryan nobles, i appreciate the conversation, the reporting. thank you both for being here. up next on "ana cabrera reports," millions under heat alerts right now and you'll
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welcome back. the extreme weather coast to coast isn't letting up. in vermont, you see the national guard surveying the flood-soaked areas from the area, looking for people still stranded by the historic rainfall. look at these pictures, the -- during and before and the during, the flood pictures. flooding here in the river in
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richmond, vermont, those waters are just now starting to recede. and in the south, historic heat hanging over parts of arizona, texas, and florida. the temperatures in miami, where it is normally hot, breaking record highs. and not just the humidity there. florida is seeing 90 plus degree ocean temperatures. scientists calling this downright shocking. there are all kinds of real life consequences, of course, including this. take a look at some of the headlines, a fourth major insurer pulling out of florida amid a growing threat from the extreme weather. we're following both floods and the heat and nbc's kathy park standing by in florida, but let's start with the recovery efforts in vermont right now. nbc's lindsey reiser is there. where do things stand? >> reporter: well, ana, this is what it looks like when you get two months of rain in 36 hours. we're inside a local book shop here in downtown mount pellier. you can see people are cleaning up. the floors are just caked in mud. people are spp sliding
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everywhere. and you can see all the merchandise also that has taken a hit. i'm going to show you here the water line, how high things got up. so this is how high the water was just yesterday. to give you an idea, people were canoeing in this area yesterday. and so they were able to remove some books from lower shelves, but i mean they couldn't have predicted this. i'm going to bring in city manager bill fraser right now. is this pretty typical of what you're seeing when assessing damage right now? >> yes, we were going back and forth to all the businesses and certainly everyone on this block had about the same amount of water. and people are really struggling to get their stores put back together. >> reporter: it is heart warming to see how people are coming together. they have a great attitude saying they'll rebuild. is it going to take weeks, months, years? >> well, i'm counting on weeks, maybe months, definitely not years. people are -- each business is different. i think there is a positive attitude. we had 500 individuals sign up to volunteer to help clean up, help individual businesses.
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we're talking to one business owner last night at 10:00 and she said they had 20 people show up that they didn't even know to help them clean out their store and so i think people want to get back at it. we have been through a pandemic, we went through two floods in 2011. people are determined. >> and one more question for you, people are concerned something like this will happen every ten years or even sooner because of climate change. flood insurance is so expensive in this area. what is your message to business and homeowners? >> certainly climate change has changed the ball game considerably. the city worked hard at proving our flood rating to keep the flood insurance rates down. we dropped a couple of points which reduced everyone's premiums. but it is definitely a concern, we are always looking at how we can be more resilient to handle these things, but we can't stop the rain from falling. >> reporter: more rain forecast for tomorrow. we know the grounds are saturated. hopefully we won't see flash flooding like we have over the last few days, ana?
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>> really inspirational to hear the strength of spirit there in that book shop. thank you so much for that reporting, lindsey. to kathy now in miami. they had 30 straight days of temps over 100 degrees. even in miami, this is not normal. >> reporter: hey, ana, good morning to you. yeah, it is pretty unusual for miami. i just checked the temperature, it is 91 degrees. when you factor in the humidity, it feels closer to 99 degrees. the miami region has seen 31 consecutive days where the heat index is 100 degrees or higher. so we have kind of been in this stag assistant weather pattern. i'm under some shade right now. we have been out here for a bit. and i'm pretty uncomfortable. but imagine having to work in these conditions. exposed to the elements. yesterday we had a chance to catch up with some roofers here in the miami area. and they say the key to staying safe in these conditions, a couple of things, lots of breaks, ice and water.
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take a listen. >> the humidity is what kills you. i usually wet my wrists, my neck, the cooldown areas for me. that works for me. >> reporter: and, ana, as you mentioned, it is not just south florida dealing with this extreme heat. folks in texas as well as california also sweltering. death valley could reach 130 degrees by this weekend. and, yes, it is summertime, a lot of folks want to be outdoors and enjoy these conditions. but you do have to be cautious because the extreme heat is the number one weather-related fatality in the u.s. so if you do have to be outdoors, take plenty of breaks, try to find that ac, drink a lot of water. also, health experts are saying if the heat index reaches 105 degrees, that puts you more at risk for heat exhaustion and heat stroke. so all things to consider, especially if you are in the
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category of being elderly, young, also those with underlying conditions as well. >> really important. >> ana? >> really important reminders there. dangerous when it gets that hot. kathy park, thank you for your reporting. that will do it for us today. see you back here, same time, same place, tomorrow. until then, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. yasmin vossoughian picks up our coverage right now. good morning, everybody. it is 11:00 a.m. in the east, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm yasmin vossoughian in for jose diaz-balart. overseas, the president on the world stage at nato making security promises to ukraine with president zelenskyy at his side. we're going to talk to ukraine's former president petro poroshenko about it coming up. and then back at home, fireworks on capitol hill. house republicans slamming fbi director chris wray and his agency claiming it has been quote, unquote weaponized against conservatives. and no rest for millions of
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