the basic principles of the united nations charter that we all signed up to. sovereignty, territorial integrity. these are two pillars of peaceful relations among nations. one country cannot be allowed to seize its neighbors territory by force. russia could end this war tomorrow, by withdrawing its forces from ukraine, recognition of national borders and ceasing its inhumane attacks by russia on ukraine against its children, women and children, its military. unfortunately russia has shown thus far no interest in a diplomatic outcome. putin still wrongly believes that he can outlast ukraine. he can't believe it's their land, their country, and their future, and even after all this time, putin still doubts our staying power.

he's still making a bad bet that the conviction and the unity among the united states and our allies is partners will break down. he still doesn't understand that our commitment, our values, our freedom is something he could never, never, ever, ever walk away from. it's who we are. [ cheers and applause ] i mean it. it's who we are. it's who we are. throughout this horrific war, the people of lithuania, together with our baltic brethren have been among the most fierce champions of ukraine's right to a future of its own choosing, one that is free because you live so long with freedom denied, many of you who are older know better than anyone who precious the right to determine your own future is, precious to people everywhere, not just in ukraine, belarus, moldova georgia and all the places around the world where people continue to fight to make their voices heard. so my message, my message to all of you tonight is keep it up.

keep it going. keep reminding the world of hope, that that's what you embody, hope in this country. no, i really mean it. [ cheers and applause ] i'm not joking. i mean it sincerely. we must never forget how much this matters and never, never give up on a better tomorrow. the defense of freedom is not the work of a day or a year. it's the calling of our lifetime, of all time. our unity will not falter, i promise you. [ cheers and applause ] folks, as i look around the world today and the moment of war and peril, a moment of competition and uncertainty, i also see a moment of unprecedented opportunity, unprecedented opportunity, opportunity to make real strides

for the world of greater peace and greater prosperity. liberty and dignity, equal justice under the law. human rights and fundamental freedoms, which are the blessing and birthright of all of humanity. that is the world the united states is working toward. it's one we'll only reach if we'll do it together and i mean together. we need to take the same spirit of unity, common purpose, determination that we have demonstrated in our response to russian aggression and ukraine and bring more partners along as we continue to build a world we want to live in and a world we want for our children. my friends, at the most fundamental level we face a choice. it's not hyperbole. we face a choice. the choice between a world defined by coercion and exploitation or a world where we recognize that our own success is bound to the success of others.

when others do better, we to do better as well. when we understand that the challenges we face today from the existential threat of climate change to building a global economy where no one gets left mind are too great for any one nation to solve on their own. and that to achieve our goals and meet the challenges of this age, we have to work together , and i mean it sincerely. the world's changing. we have a chance to change the dynamic. that's why i've been so focused as president to rebuilding and revitalizing the alliancing that are the cornership of american leadership in the world. in the past years we brought the transatlantic partnership to new heights, reaffirming the importance of a relationship between europe and the united states as an anchor to global stability. the idea that the united states can prosper without a europe is unreasonable. it really isn't, it's not a

joke. [ applause ] i sometimes -- well, we also elevate people in america in alliance with the indo-pacific, japan, the republic of korea, the philippines which provide critical security and deterrence in that vital region of the world. through our quad partnership, a fancy way of saying our partnership with australia, india, japan, and the united states, we're bringing major democracies of the region together to cooperate, keeping the indo-pacific free and open, prosperous and secure. we've demonstrated during this nato summit with indo-pacific partners joining us for the second year in a row, we're working to deepen connections between the atlantic and pacific democracies so they can better work together toward the shared values we all seek. strong alliances, versatile partnerships, common purpose, collective action to meet our shared challenges. the world has shrunk.

that's how we build a future we share, and know we share challenges and work together. we have to step up together, building the broadest and deepest coalition to strengthen and defend the basic rules of the road, to preserve all the extraordinary benefits that stem from the international system grounded in the rule of law. we have to come together to protect the rights and freedoms, to underwrite the flow of ideas and commerce, and which have enabled decades of global growth. yes, territorial integrity and sovereignty, but also principles like freedom of navigation and over flight. keeping our shared seas and skies open so that every nation has equal access to our global common space. as we continue to explore this age of new possibilities, an age enabled by rapid advances and innovation, we have to stand

together, ensure that the common spaces of our future reflect our highest aspirations for ourselves and for others. as my dad would say, everybody has to be treated with dignity, so that artificial intelligence, engineering technology and other emerging technologies are not made into weapons of oppression, but rather used as tools of opportunity. working with our allies and partners to build a supply chain that are more resilient, more secure so we never again face a situation like we had during the pandemic when we couldn't get critical goods we needed for our daily lives. you know, we all must summon the common will to actually address the existential threat of accelerating climate change. it's real. it's serious. we don't have a lot of time. it is the single greatest threat to humanity.

it's only by working together we'll prevent the worse consequences of climate change from ravaging our future and that of our children and grandchildren. we also have to recognize our shared responsibility to help unlock the enormous potential that exists in low and middle income companies around the world. not out of charity but because it's in our own self-interest. we all benefit when partners stand together working towards shared goals. we all benefit when people are healthier and more prosperous. it's true. we all benefit when more entrepreneurs and innovators are able to pursue their dreams for a better tomorrow. we need to update our tool set. better address the needs of today in this interconnected world, a world where climate disasters, pandemics, conflicts, spill over borders and make it harder to address the challenges of poverty and instability that holds so many people back. that's why the united states is

leading an effort to transform a multilateral development banks, like the world bank, help them better address the global challenges while enhancing their core mission of reducing poverty and boost shared prosperity. we're all working together with our partners in the g-7 to address the enormous needs for high standard infrastructure afternoon the world, especially in low and middle income countries in africa, latin america, and southeast asia. it's a statement about the world we want to build together. ladies and gentlemen, we stand at an inflection point. an inflection point in history where the choices we make now are going to shape the direction of our world for decades to come. the world has changed. will we turn back naked unchecked aggression today to deter other would be aggressors tomorrow?

will we staunch the climate crisis before it's too late? >> will we harness the new technologies to advance freedom or will we diminish it? will we advance opportunity and more places or allow instability and inequality to persist? how we answer these essential questions is literally going to determine the kind of future our children or grandchildren have, and again, that's not an exaggeration, it's a fact. it's going to take all of us, all of us. i believe that with ambition, with confidence in ourselves and working together for common cause, we can answer these questions. we can ensure the vision we share and the freedoms we cherish are not just empty words. in a troubled time, but a road map, i mean this literally, a road map, a plan of urgent action toward a future we can reach, if we work together.

folks, the road that lies before us is hard. it will challenge us, some of the best of ourselves to hold faith in one another, never give up. never lose hope, never. every day we have to make the choice. every day we must summon the strength to stand for what is right, to stand for what is true. to stand for freedom, to stand together. that my friends is the lesson we learned from history and the history of lithuania's story. you know, it's a lesson we see demonstrated each day and it will determine, it will determine what ukraine looks like, and it's how we're going to work, how we rewrite the future, the peace and hope, justice and light, liberty, possibility for everyone, everyone everywhere. folks, some have heard me say to my country many times, never ever in my entire career have i been more optimistic about the

prospects of the future, never. never so let me just say thank you for taking the time to be here to listen. god bless you all and may god protect the freedoms -- the protectors of freedom in ukraine, here and every nation in the world everywhere. god protect our troops. thank you, thank you, thank you. ♪♪ >> a standing ovation for president biden speaking from a university in lithuania and making nato's commitment to ukraine clear, saying we will not waiver and promising to stand with ukraine for as long as it takes. he's defending nato in the face of a war with no clear end point and with weary detractors in nato nations and of course back home in the u.s. congress. but it's also a fight he just

framed as the calling of our lifetime, praising what he called the transformational power of freedom. nbc's peter alexander is traveling with the president in lithuania, he will join us in just a moment. michael allen is a former special assistant to the president and senior director for counterproliferation are strategy at the national security council, elise jordan is a former aide to president george w. bush and an msnbc political analyst. so michael, that was in many ways quintessentially what this president believes, right? he believes in nato. he has worked as a key part of his foreign policy to keep nato together in the face of this longer than most people expected war in ukraine. he said a couple of things i want to get your take on. he called it a bulwark of global security and more united than ever in its history. do you see that, michael as an accurate assessment of where we are right now with nato?

>> i definitely do. i think the ukrainians are a bulwark against further russian aggression. they have suffered, the ukrainians have, but in their fighting, they have significantly degraded the russian military sending it back anywhere from five to ten years. we ought to be grateful to the ukrainians that they are handling for us arguably our second greatest threat, and i do believe nato is as united as it's ever been. vladimir putin running into another country certainly has unified nato, and president biden and others of course needed to project strength and unity from this summit, and i think largely that has occurred. >> elise, what's your takeaway from these two days and from this speech? obviously there were some tension points between ukraine and nato. they seem to have worked them out between zelenskyy who was highly critical yesterday, backed off a bit on that today.

where do you see nato standing right now? >> i think the summit has overall been a success. you look at turkey changing position and backing sweden, grant it for a lot of concessions, but that was something jake sullivan, the national security adviser before the summit said he wasn't sure if it was going to happen. that's huge. then you look at all the new funding promises by different countries and the arms that are going to come from france and germany. the united states hasn't really gotten a ton of criticism for agreeing to give ukraine cluster munitions, too, which is something that most of those allies don't support. so overall, i would say that even the quibble yesterday with zelenskyy, that might have even been bad translation. his response to a question because it was cleaned up pretty quickly, and you look at zelenskyy tweeting an hour ago about what a success he found the summit to be and his satisfaction with the results. >> and there we see the president of president

zelenskyy. peter alexander is with us now who has been with the president throughout. this message obviously coming just hours after president biden met with zelenskyy. talk about the importance of today, peter, about what your takeaway is, both from the meeting with the ukrainian president and also from this speech. >> reporter: well, i think the white house really wanted to cast this in the same language that the president used, which is to sort of emphasize the vital role that nato plays right now. you know, chris, what strikes me as i stand here in this swear in the middle of vilnius university, the heart of this former soviet republic, is how some of the president's loudest ovations, the biggest crowds he has seen have been in eastern europe. i'm reminded of his trip to warsaw, poland, in the past, and now here in lithuania, really just a matter of several hundred miles away from the fighting in ukraine. we witnessed some of the pressure, the tensions between the two with volodymyr zelenskyy arriving here yesterday wanting to have a specific, a concrete

time line for ukraine to be invited to join nato, to become a nato member. they did not obviously get that, and that was real frustration we heard from zelenskyy describing that lack of clarity is absurd. today he has really dialed back the language, been much more conciliatory, and sort of i guess i would say demonstrating a lot of gratitude to the united states, specifically to the americans for the security measures that they continue to take, and in one of his remarks that he posted after his meeting with president biden, he called it a very powerful meeting that the two men shared. he said it went twice as long as expected, so trying to iron out any of the concerns that may exist between the two. certainly the united states does not want to go any further as it relates to that invitation to bring ukraine into nato. the president has said he recognizes that that would effectively put the u.s. at war with russia. his next stop, of course, after this speech here in lithuania is going to be finland where he

arrives late tonight. he will formally welcome what is the 31st country to join nato, its newest member in events to take place tomorrow, and even since the announcement of finland now during this summit, the president is celebrating the new likely invitation to sweden with turkey dropping its opposition there as well. the white house really does feel a sense of the wind at its back right now and is trying to paper over the differences that may exist within nato about ukrainian membership, chris. >> thank you for that. so michael, zelenskyy does not walk away with what he had wanted, which is a very specific time line for entering into nato. having said, that they did get some serious new commitments at this summit with an announcement of a plan for ukraine's long-term security, france agrees to send long-range cruise missiles. the u.s. now considering sending missiles with an even farther range, army tactical systems. hundreds of millions of dollars,

new tanks, weapons, a training program for fighter pilots, a coalition of countries will lead that. what impact do you expect this to have on the war in ukraine, and to what extent would that mitigate what was clearly a disappointment for zelenskyy with the nato membership? >> well, the good thing about meetings like this is that leaders need to bring commitments to them, and now it's all about the implementation, getting them to deliver the weapons they pledged, including the united states so that we can give the ukrainians a chance. this is what the biggest priority is of the summer right up through or until the winter, which is the ukrainian counteroffensive. they've been unable to breakthrough now. we shouldn't be impatient about it. there's a lot that they have to do, but we certainly hope we see battlefield's success from ukrainians in the coming months, i think that will lead to increased commitments from the u.s. congress and others around the world who want to back a

winner. they want to see that ukraine is making progress against the russians. i think that is the big issue now for the summer since the nato summit has concluded. >> during this war, michael, we have seen the united states, right, up essentially the aid that they've been given. first saying no to patriot missiles, abrams tanks, there's also an agreement to get f 16s from other countries. now this consideration of potentially long-term missiles. what kind of diplomatic calculations have been going on behind the scenes? help folks to understand the sort of progress that has been made, and some people say they listen to president zelenskyy, and he'll say this is what i've been asking for for a long time, and then the question becomes why are we doing it now. we wouldn't do it before. the diplomatic dance is something you understand well. help everybody else to understand it. >> well, i think the president

has been trying to ensure that vladimir putin didn't lash out at the united states, but over time, i think republicans and democrats have come around to a mild criticism or a serious criticism of the president, which is if you were going to only say yes this the end, why did you wait so many months to transfer or agree to abrams tanks, f-16s and now cluster munitions and maybe longer range missiles that are going to be announced very, very soon. i think that's a fair criticism. i think we need to go faster and enable the ukrainians to make more progress because this work can't go on forever. politically. nor can we sustain it forever with the munitions stockpiles that the europeans have. so we have to enable them to move as fast as possible so that we might see some progress later on in actually ending the war

. >> when you see the commitments made, the ongoing number of countries who are willing to buy in, president biden has used the russian invasion to rally nato, and notably, others -- i guess we would say notably former president trump thought this was an organization that was outdated. now it's expanding, seems to have this renewed focus. what do you think that means for president biden's agenda especially when it comes to republicans in congress who have been skeptical about this? >> you know, chris, it doesn't matter. every administration is going to agree that other nato countries can be doing more, that they can be giving more. they can be spending more of their gdp so the united states isn't stuck covering the bulk of it and securing europe. and this is something that i remember back in, you know, 2008. secretary of defense -- prodding nato, so this is not a new thing.

gradually these countries are increasing. then with the russian invasion of ukraine, you see where there is a newfound sense of unity as the threat is so close. >> elise jordan, michael allen, thank you both so much. we appreciate it. we've got a lot more news going on, from flood waters in vermont to triple digit temperatures that are impacting millions of americans, the statistics you have to hear and the video you need to see to believe as dangerous weather continues. our reporters will have the latest in just 60 seconds. ave t latest in just 60 seconds. [bones cracking] ♪ (tense music) ♪ one aleve works all day so i can keep working my magic. just one aleve. 12 hours of uninterrupted pain relief. aleve. who do you take it for? we used to struggle with greasy messes. now, we just freak, wipe, and we're done! with mr. clean clean freak, conquering messes is that easy. clean freak's mist is three times more powerful, and it works on contact. clean freak, just freak, wipe, done.

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property damages. early estimates reach into the tens of billions of dollars. governor phil scott stressing the severity of the situation. >> the flooding we've seen is historic. we could see waters rise again, so it's critical to be aware of their surroundings, be vigilant and plan ahead. and then there's the heat wave this the south. temperatures in the coming days are expected to exceed the endless records already shattered this summer. ed the endless records already shattered this summer. el paso, texas has clocked in at more than 100 degrees for 26 days. meanwhile, in florida, even the water temperatures are nearing 100 degrees. we are in uncharted territory to say the least. here's what a leading climate scientist told msnbc. >> we're seeing things get worse and worse. we sometimes hear the expression a new normal. is this a new normal, but it's worse than that.

more intense and frequent heat waves, wildfires, floods like we're seeing play out this summer. >> you just heard the president talking about the need to address climate change. lindsey reiser is live from vermont's flooded capital city, nbc's kathy park is on the ground in sweltering, miami, so lindsey, what's the recovery effort going to look like and how are they preparing there for the potential of more and more rain? >> reporter: chris, it is going to take weeks if not months. take a look behind me at some of the cleanup. this is a bookstore, and they knew that the rains would come. they removed books from the lower shelves. they could not anticipate the deluge that came. we're talking three and a half feet of water, so everything below that line gone. they're going to take a hit as a business. i heard similar stories from other business owners. the salon and perfume ri across the street aren't sure they're going to be able to open up

again. they have conducted more than 200 rescues since sunday night. they've got swift water and rescue teams across the state. the rivers have crested, the flooding should wind down throughout the day. as of 8:00 this morning, no fatalities were reported. we still have power outages, less than a thousand across the state, and you did mention more rain to come. but let's take a listen to what some of these business owners are telling me about the hit they're going to take. >> most of the merchandise is going to have to be thrown out and replaced. we had three and a half feet of water in this store and there's an eight-foot basement, so we had about 11 1/2 feet of water total if you count from the basement up, and so right now we're just draining out the basement because the water receded yesterday late afternoon. >> reporter: so they have help. i mean, we've got fema out here. i just heard senator bernie sanders is across the street taking a look at the damage as well. we've got a disaster declaration

that's been prepared. everything is just caked in this mud, dust. i've been wearing my mask in between hits because my last live hit i started coughing. it was affecting my throat there. chris, you mentioned more rain. right now state officials don't believe we're going to see the kind of flash flooding we saw earlier this week. they say the water has receded enough that they believe the water levels can take it, chris. >> lindsey, thank you, and if you want to go and see if you can grab senator sanders please feel free to do that now. kathy, i'm looking at the water behind you, it's what we all want when it's hot outside to take a dip. some of these temperatures sound more like a hot tub than a place to cool off. how are people coping with the heat? >> reporter: hey there, chris. good afternoon to you. you're here in miami in the middle of summer, and it's normally hot but it's already 95 degrees. that matches a record we saw back in 1981. when you factor in the humidity right now, it feels closer to

104 degrees. we have seen more than 31 consecutive days with a heat index at least 100 degrees. so this is something that we have been experiencing here in south florida for quite some time now. it's not just south florida, texas as well as california, they're also baking as well. death valley, they're looking at 130 degrees by this weekend. and yesterday we had a chance to talk with some roofers who are out in the elements or exposed to the elements day in and day out. they say the key to staying safe is take a lot of breaks, drink a lot of water and get some ice to keep that core body temperature down. it's no the just a heat wave here on the ground, chris, but also there is a marine heat wave as well, and it's warming up some of the waters off the coast of florida. in keys especially, some spots are registering anywhere between the mid to upper 90s, which is 5 to 10 degrees above average.

experts are saying it's this stagnant weather pattern that is triggering these hot spots. but you know what? you want to enjoy the conditions, especially when it looks like this. the sun's out, but it can get dangerous, and experts are saying you want to take it easy. try to find that ac, especially when the heat index climbs to 105 degrees. your at greater risk of getting heat exhaustion or heat stroke. try to take those breaks if you can. i've been out here for several hours with my crew. we're under some shade right now. it is pretty uncomfortable. you have to feel for those workers who have to work under these conditions. >> kathy park, go get in that air-conditioning. thank you for your reporting, we appreciate it. the united states and china just announced they'll be restarting talks on climate change, and john kerry, the white house climate envoy is headed to beijing next week. he'll be the third biden administration official to visit china after secretary of state blinken and treasury secretary janet yellen just last week,

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has reversed course now saying that former president donald trump was not acting within the scope of his presidential duties when he denied e. jean carroll's rape accusations ask made allegedly defamatory remarks about her in 2019. this gives carroll new momentum because if trump made his remarks in his role as president, her case likely would be thrown out. i want to bring in paul butler. tell us about this doj court filing and what it could mean for both parties. >> a law called the westfall act provides immunity to federal employees when they're performing government work. doj first said trump's comments while he was president included presidential or government work. even those vile things he said about ms. carroll, doj changed its mind because of the verdict in the first trial where trump

was found liable for sexual assault and defamation and because trump has continued to insult ms. carroll since he left office. that's evidence to doj that the conduct was more personal than presidential for trump and no reason for doj to remain involved in the case. >> so not a surprise, paul, but donald trump made a string of posts on truth social. he wrote that his lawyers, quote, did not want him to testify or even be at the trial, and quote, we are strongly appealing this travesty of justice. i mean, do trump and his lawyers have any recourse? should anyone be surprised that they're questioning this reversal? >> we shouldn't be surprised, no, they don't really have a recourse. trust just lost his main defense, which was trying to get the case thrown out on grounds of immunity. the judge had always been skeptical. now that doj is no longer backing up from the case seems

headed for trial unless the parties settle. in the first trial, trump literally did not put on a defense. he didn't even bother to attend that trial. that wasn't a successful strategy, seeing how it took the jury less than three hours to find trump liable on most of the charges and to award ms. carroll $5 million in damages. >> does that make you wonder, paul, if he might show up this time? >> he certainly needs to try something different, but given this -- not defendant because this is a civil case, but given this person charged with these very serious allegations, his lawyers will probably advise him to do something different. >> is there a bigger picture here? does this mean doj could reverse course on other similar cases where there are questions about whether presidential immunity applies.

>> the attorney general is famously an institutionalist, which poses a channel when -- challenge when you're dealing with somebody like trump. doj has to try to protect the privileges that any president needs to do her job, but at the same time, doj shouldn't take positions that make the president above the law. it's a needle that has to be threaded very carefully. >> paul butler, always good to have you on the program, thank you, paul. the late night vote in iowa passing a six-week abortion ban means virtually all abortion could be illegal as soon as friday. we'll go live to des moines for the latest. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc reports" only on msnbc doctors. business leaders. we see your ambition. your desire to succeed. which is why we are investing in your future.

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. a deadly greyhound bus crash killed three people and injured 14 others. the bus had been taking 30 people from indianapolis to st. louis when it hit three semi trucks parked on the exit ramp. that's according to police. greyhound said in a statement, quote, our primary concern is ensuring we care for our passengers and driver at this time. the people who survived that crash and did not go to the hospital got back on another bus and finished the trip to st. louis. right now health care providers in iowa are scrambling after lawmakers passed a six-week fetal heartbeat

abortion ban. the law goes into effect immediately once republican governor kim reynolds signs the bill. that is expected on friday. it's latest move to restrict abortion as a new national ap poll shows 70% agreeing with allowing abortion in the first six weeks. that number drops to a slim majority, 51% say abortions should be legal during the first 15 weeks of pregnancy. just 27% support allowing abortions up to 24 weeks. nbc's shaquille brewster is in des moines, iowa. also with me boston globe columnist kimberly atkins stohr. so shaq, what's the latest you're hearing from people about this new law, well, about to be law? >> reporter: chris, conservatives are certainly celebrating taking a victory lap. governor kim reynolds says she'll sign this on friday at a conservative gathering that's going to be attended by

presidential candidates. you havee in the medical community who voted against this in the legislature. they're already doing what they can to oppose this bill and hoping that it won't ever enacted. planned parenthood and a group of abortion providers in the last couple of hours file ago lawsuit in district court, suing the state asking a judge to intervene and block the enforcement of this law that goes into effect immediately onces governor signs it. she's planning to do that on friday. meanwhile, all of this is just adding to the confusion for abortion providers. i just talked to one, she talked to me about how they've been moving some appointments back, how they're extending their hours. i want you to listen to what she told me earlier this week about how she's going to evaluate this law and how abortion providers at large are evaluating this law and figuring out the next steps. >> we know that we're going to have to be really careful about how we're providing care. a lot of the pieces of the bill

that speak directly to care are really vague, so there's lots of lawyers looking over things and seeing exactly what that means. >> reporter: one thing you're also hearing planned parenthood making this point that they're also trying to figure out how to provide care for women seeking abortion out of the state. even this debate over the abortion ban as it's been working its way through the courts in the past had an impact. minnesota saw a 200% increase in patients from iowa seeking abortion care, folks are saying that is only going to increase. but again, conservatives hear are celebrating. this is a bill that they passed in 2018. it never was able to be enacted. they're hoping a more conservative state supreme court allows it to stand. >> it occurs to me that you can agree or disagree with abortion bans at what level, we saw in that poll that there is some

disagreement about when abortion should be legal in terms of weeks into the pregnancy. having said that, what is clear is the confusion that continues to be caused one week in, many of these laws having what many people consider to be confusing and actionable parts of them. i mean, this continues to be something of a big mess. >> it does, chris, and we've seen this confusion not just among lawmakers, even lawmakers who support these measures who often are caught by surprise with some of the effects of them. but you certainly see confusion not just among members of the public and people seeking abortion care, but also providers within the state and in the neighboring states that shaq has pointed out. this doesn't just stay within the state lines of iowa. it reverberates to communities nearby and across the country. and so we're seeing a

continuation of that confusion. >> there's also obviously the major political implications of all of this. the poll, the ap poll was taken a little bit ago just around the one-year anniversary of overturning roe. now a year later, abortion is banned with varying exceptions at all stages of pregnancy in 14 states. the poll found most people living in state where is abortion is highly restricted say it should be illegal at least up to six weeks. what's at play here? what's going on in what seems to be even in places that are conservative, a disconnect between lawmakers and many of their constituents? >> is that for me, chris? >> yes, sorry, kimberly. >> so what you're seeing here is two things, and iowa is a good example of that. what's happening with passing this law is really a barometer for the republican party more broadly, right, as they try

to -- many leaders within that party as the primary is coming up and iowa is the first in the nation in the gop in that primary, going more and more conservative. mike pence backing nationwide bans or wanting things that are more and more restrictive down to six weeks. people like pence and desantis backing that, even though most women don't even know they're pregnant by that time. on the other hand, you have the public that you're talking about, people who know people who have themselves needed this care, not just to end a pregnancy, but if they have a miscarriage that isn't complete or other medical conditions, seeing how it affects them on the ground, and the more people that learn about that, the more sentiment that goes against these sort of bans. these two different priorities are coming to a head, and that's exactly what you're seeing play out. >> let me ask you finally, abortion in iowa had been legal up to 20 weeks as we have very

little time to make adjustments for health care providers. how does something like that potentially impact the vote? because i think there was part of this poll that suggested one out of every ten people they polled knew someone who had a problem getting an abortion or was not able to get an abortion who felt they wanted or needed one. >> i think a lesson of the midterms was that it matters very much in the outcome of the polls. certainly in states where abortion access was put plainly on the poll in a valid question. abortion always won. you also saw a lot of republicans changing their strategy, changing their messaging when it became very clear as they heard from their own constituents that they were out of line. i think that's going to play hugely in the upcoming elections, but the problem is in the meantime you're going to have a lot of people that are seeking this care, and it will be out of reach to them.

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>> reporter: this morning, convicted murderer leslie van houten is out of prison. van houten was released to parole supervision on tuesday in los angeles. the 73-year-old had been serving a life sentence after she was convicted for the gruesome killings of leno and rosemare, la bianca in 1969. her parole request had been rejected five other times amid family members' outrage at the possibility she could walk free. >> i want her to stay in the rest of her life. >> reporter: part of a string of cult murders at manson's direction including tate and roman polanski. the next day she and other followers broke into the la

bianca's house and stabbed the couple multiple times. van houten was originally sentenced to death. that was reversed on appeal and changed to a life sentence. governor gavin newsom rejected portfolio in the past, his office saying the governor is disappointed by the court of appeal's decision to release van houten but will not pursue further action as efforts to further appeal are likely to succeed. >> van houten speak to go abc about manson. >> it didn't happen overnight. he spent a lot of time taking middle class girls and remolding them. >> charles manson died in prison but he and the manson family have continued to capture the attention of country and live on in pop culture, including the 2009 hit "once upon a time in hollywood." >> you are -- >> i'm the devil. and i'm here to do the devil's business. >> reporter: now, the real life impact being felt by those left behind. >> i really do not believe that

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