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are struggling and how can workers get their fair share in an age of artificial intelligence and new ways of doing business. those are at the heart of not only what the writers and actors are worried about but america is worried about. yes, some actors are doing just fine in this new world but the basic battle lines are the same across industries. that gap between what workers make and ceos make has been widening for decades, at least since ronald reagan busted the air traffic controllers union in 1981, and that right there is part of the issue. just listen to how the president of sag-aftra fran drescher put it when she announced the strike. >> we are the victims here. we are being victimized by a very greedy entity. i am shocked by the way the people that we have been in business with are treating us.

i cannot believe it, quite frankly. how far apart we are on so many things. how they plead poverty, that they're losing money left and right when giving hundreds of millions of dollars to their ceos. it is disgusting. shame on them. >> fran drescher joins me in a moment. she's telling studio heads to wake up and smell the coffee. as actors refuse to work, walk the red carpet, refuse to promote and shut down a million billion dollar industry and also one of the united states' biggest exports, who else is listening, and if this is an inflection point for the entertainment industry, could it be an inflection point for american labor as well? joining me now is the president of sag-aftra, fran drescher, thank you very much for joining me. i know you're picketing right now. >> my pleasure. >> so we played a little bit of

that sound bite in your announcement that you guys were going on strike. you talk about what the studio heads are argue, that they're pleading poverty, that they say the industry is changing and that what the actors and writers are asking for is too much. explain. >> well, i think that, you know, they're doing a whole sob story about how they can't honor and respectfully cut a deal with us that really works with the massive contribution they make. 99% of the people in the union are working class people. and the eyes of the world are watching because what is happening here right now is happening to workers around the world. so when they're getting hundreds of millions of dollars in salaries, don't tell me how bad

business is. it's like they don't seem to care about the working person. and they don't respect or honor the massive contribution that we make. who are they without the performer? i don't even understand why they would want to try and screw us. and the business has changed so dramatically, that to try and just, you know, negotiate on a contract that was based off on an old business model is ridiculous. they don't seem to think about anything but the almighty dollar and the stock market, and it's just, you know, i mean, it's just -- they are doing bad things to good people, and i can't really sit around and watch it. >> so i think what's interesting is that you say the eyes of the world are on you. you mentioned that this is -- or you implied that this is broader

than just the entertainment industry, what the entertainment industry has is the most recognizable faces around the world. do you think that actors as they walk off red carpets, stop promoting, stop working and they join the picket lines could have a bigger effect on labor across this country. >> absolutely. i mean, that's why i get to talk to people like you. but, you know, the shirt maker or the bricklayer isn't getting that kind of coverage, but i assure you what is happening here is not unique, and this is why we have a labor force in this country. this is why unions were forged because big business doesn't do the right thing by the people that make their business happen. and it's really unfortunate. i was hopeful. maybe naively so. i really thought they would appreciate the fact that the

business has changed so dramatically. it was foisted upon us by then. that's the streaming nod l. >> model. >> there's a magazine that talks about the binge purge and everyone committed ritual suicide by moving not money printing platform or cable over to streaming which has so far not proven profitable. is there a way to make streaming profitable again so that it is as lucrative as it once was? >> i don't think it's my job to crack the code on something they leaped into greedily thinking that they were going to excite their shareholders with the new best next thing and have home entertainment like it's never been before. they're very shortsighted in that way. very few people have the ability to look at the long picture, to

really evaluate what the impact is going to be up and down the ladder when you introduce something like this. they all get very hungry, and very scared that they're going to be left behind, and i thought it was a flawed business model from the beginning, and, you know, but that's their problem, and i don't really care about that. but we have to be marching into their budget. certainly the ceo, and i think that the performer is more important than that executive. sorry, but that's the name of the game. >> tell me about the performer who can go into, i guess, a studio, do one performance and have their likeness computerized and their likeness is no longer owned by them. explain that. >> yeah, isn't that terrible? and they don't want to protect the performer. you know, from that happening.

you can be paid for one day's work. your entire likeness is scanned, and then, you know, you're -- you never get to work again because they're using you over and over again. whether you're a background performer or i was just talking to ashton kuchar, and he said everything about my character, my likeness, my voice, but it's that character, that's owned by the studio that made the series, that made me a star. now, what happens? you know, he's as worried about this as anybody. a lot of people on the top of the food chain are worried about this because our face, our voice, our likeness is our work. it's what we sell. >> it's important to note that there are a lot of actors who make a lot of money. there are more actors living

paycheck to paycheck. one last question because we're running out of time. how long does this last? is there a compromise to be had? >> we're willing to talk across the table today but they said it will be a long time. they want to punish us, like they said about the wga, people losing their homes is a necessary evil, and it's like, who are you? why do you say things like that? they don't look at us as colleagues, as partners, as people who have feelings and families, and, you know, it's just -- it's -- >> are your members on board with how long it takes, however long it takes? >> i believe so. we had to convince them to do the extension. they were upset about that because they're ready going on strike. they kept cancelling our meetings, going behind locked

doors. still, i thought that we would, you know, maybe they're duking it out. maybe they'll come back with something meaningful, but, no, they came back with bumpkis, and i think they were duped because they wanted an extra week to promote their summer movies. >> 97.1%, the members that voted in favor -- >> 160,000 people in this union. the largest entertainment union in the world. >> fran drescher, fran, thank you very much for joining us, and for taking time off what is, i know, a very busy day. >> thank you for your support. coming up, that is the argument from the actors, next, we're going to get it from the studios, along with a media reporter to sort it all out. republicans in the house passed an unpassable defense budget. what the senate will say about what the house is sending them and what that will mean for keeping the government's lights on. here we go again. plus an nbc news exclusive.

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growing. this is in front of disney in the city of burbank, and i don't know if you see, but there's a couple of amphibians here as well. that looks like an iguana, a chameleon, and a turtle. they're all having strike signs as well. a little bit cute. a lot of families out here. lots of honking, it's pretty chaotic, but right now, i am joined by constantine anthony, the mayor of the city of burbank, and burbank happens to house more than its fair share of studios, and yet, he is also a sag-aftra member having been in shows like "entourage." so i have to ask you, mayor, you have some split loyalties here because you have to watch out for the city of burbank's well being by kind of placating the studios and making sure they continue to do business here, and yet you are a striking member of sag. tell me what studios are here

and how you're balancing that. >> we are known as the media capital of the world. we are a lot of studios in the city, but at the end of the day, i have to remember that the studios don't vote. the workers who live here, the employees of the studios who are residents of the city of burbank, they're the constituents. so, yes, absolutely, we are a very pro business city. we do a lot of work with the studios. we help them in their needs for transportation, and in their needs for production, but at the end of the day, if the studios aren't showing up to the bargaining table and paying the workers the wages they deserve, that money is not going to stay mere in burbank. it goes to ceo pay. it goes to corporate pay, which leaves the local economy. if they pay the workers fair wages, you have local mom and pops, dry cleaners, restaurants, people getting their car worked on. the school district.

all of these local institutions that thrive off of the money in the pockets of the workers. i'm here as a sag-aftra nebraska. i joined in '06. i was on the 2007 strike lines as well. i remember it very well. i'm here in solidarity with the employees and the workers. these are the constituents, and the people who need it the most. i'm asking the studios to come to the table and negotiate a fair contract. we have seen them be very stallworth and block negotiations and we can't have that. >> reporter: a couple of caveats here, first of all, among the constituents of the city of burbank are also people out of jobs now because of the sag-aftra strike. we're talking about lighting directors, and people in production, and then also another caveat is that the studios aren't here to give their side of the story, and i'm being given a route. thank you very much, con tan -- con the strikes are going to

resume on monday. back to you. >> thank you very much. and it's a really good point that it's not just the actors, it's everybody that surrounds the production who are out of work as well. dominic, i want to talk about the studio side of things. we're not getting that at the moment. we heard a lot from fran drescher, we heard from dominic. tell me what the studio's argument is here. >> basically their point is, and by the way, matching stripes day today, very nice for a summer friday. basically their point is, look, business is evolve, uncertainty, and we're not making the money we think we should make. linear tv is doa. we done have the money to give you the money, the people who make our shows. we don't have the money to give it to you. now, whether or not you believe that. that's the miracle of hollywood accounting. >> let me put up the top ten

earners in hollywood in terms of studio executives. if you add the numbers together, that's almost half a billion dollars. a whole lot of money. fran drescher pointed this out. it falls on hollow ears that you're playing poverty, making that much money and saying the business is failing. >> you know, i agree with fran's point of view on that. we've broken a lot of stories this week about this, and the strike, our people, like you guys are out on the picket lines. the reality is the people who really control hollywood are wall street, and that is why disney over the past several months has fired 7,000 people to raise their stock price just a little bit. but it's still not getting up. these studios are making a lot of money. i'm standing on the fence, neutral for the most part. they're making a lot of money, and bad business decisions were

made, and streaming, digital pennies do not add to analog dollars. we're looking at contracts, the first to go on strike, and now the massive force of sag-aftra. you might add, you pointed out earlier that ronald reagan and the air covered controllers. the last time they went on strike with the writers was when ronald reagan was the head of sag-aftra. you look at business having a battle here. there's some realities here. the industry is changing, the notion of the industry is changing, and the contracts need to change as well, and when you hear some of the behind the scenes stuff of people cancelling meetings, basically saying, and you know, people have talked about it like fran mentioned earlier, a notion of people losing their homes. that's a big thing to say but the reality of it is this.

the studios are looking at this in a long picture, cold-hearted way because it's called show business. not show friends. they are looking at this and saying if we give in, and that was what one person said to me, if we give in to the writers now, every contract cycle will become a strike. next time we talk to the teamsters and nor and more and more. this is where they have decided to plant their flag. i don't think they expected the actors to go. i think they thought the actors would be all bluster. turns out the nanny not full of it. >> it's a lot of people currently on strike, 180,000 people if you add both unions together, and i will also mention there's a looming ups strike. that's 325,000 people, which would far eclipse what we're seeing with sag-aftra and the writers guild. a lot of people in this country

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>> the senate is going to start on it. that will take the next couple of weeks, taking the senate through the august recess. we're going to see some of the same fights in the senate. we're going to see a fight over abortion policy. senator tommy tuberville of alabama has been holding up military promotions over the issue. the pentagon reimburses service members to travel to get abortions, if they have to go to a different state. that's been a huge issue. we're going to see it again. we're going to see all sorts of amendment fights over woke, you know, diversity, equity and inclusion programs, transgender, you know, gender hormone replacement therapy. this kind of stuff. we're going to see these fights. they're going to sit there staring at each other, and see what they're going to have to be able to do in the fall. >> this is not exactly, you know, negotiating with the white house this time. this is negotiating with senate

democrats, which, if you're talking about a defense budget and some of these amendments, the democrats are going to draw a hard line. are we headed for a government shut down, can they even agree on a continuing resolution? >> that is a huge question. government funding doesn't run out until september 30th, now. >> which is not far away. >> it's ten weeks away. i was looking at it last night, and lamenting, i'm never going outside this fall. so what the issue is can -- there's going to be a hundred billion dollars apart. house republicans say they have to cut funding to 2022 levels, and they're rejecting the deal that kevin mccarthy, speaker kevin mccarthy cut with joe biden on the debt limit. their own deal that they cut. senate republicans are going along with the deal. they're a huge gap. there's going to be big fights over all of these amendments, so, you know, there's a very good chance, i'd say 50/50

chance of a shut down at this point. we'll see if mccarthy feels like a shut down benefits them. and it can, you know, can they keep the government open on some short-term funding bills. we'll see. >> we're already seeing some attack ads start to form against some of the front line republicans who did end up voting for this bill. people like mike lawler in new york, and a few others in really tight contests. is there any consideration being given to keeping the majority next election? >> oh, yeah, i think they are concerned about it. you know, they're out there raising a lot of money. republicans will go and attack the democrats on this same thing. they'll say, well, they voted against funding their troops, you know, they believe, actually, that their position on some of these woke issues is where the american public is. should the pentagon reimbursing, you know, service members for travel costs and abortion. they're saying that's the pentagon funding abortions.

that's their argument. they believe the american public is with them on this. should the pentagon be allowed pride flags to fly outside military bases. that's their position. they're against that. they believe the american public will be with them. they feel like they can attack on this issue. if the abortion is the issue in 2024 again, as it was in 2022, for the house, you know, republicans are going to have a huge problem. >> let me talk about senator tommy tuberville and link the two together. the house freedom caucus was praising tuberville for his hold on military promotions. i'm going to play that sound. >> do not believe we would have achieved the republican unity in the house but for the courage of senator tuberville on the other side of the rotunda. >> let him know while he has been leading the charge, reinforcements are here in the house and the rest of the senate should be motivated to help him in this effort as well. >> instead of going along to get

along, he's using the position, voters entrusted with him to jam up biden's woke agenda. >> what coach tuberville is doing in the senate is sending such a positive message. business as usual is over with. >> so, mike, the white house is trying to push back on this. what are they doing? >> there's really few things this white house enjoys more in terms of the politics of these issues than an opportunity for a good split screen moment, and they certainly had that yesterday when they tried to present the president overseas wrapping up an important trip in which he was touting the bolstering the extension of the growth of the nato alliance, a foundational part of the policy. and the senator putting our security at risk by holding up promotions. and you see this white house looking for every opportunity they can to try to show daylight between what they consider the

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the argument bull, writing in argument, there is no basis in law or fact for preceding in an indeterminate and open-ended fashion, and the defendants provide none. joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. the special counsel is saying, no, we want to do this in december. >> that's right. they're saying that the notion of a speedy trial is not just some government preference. it's a foundational principle of the american judicial system. the trump team is acting like it's an imposition. it's in the interest of the american people to get a speedy trial. the excerpt that you had on the screen there also has the prosecution attacking and i found this very interesting, what has been trump's central defense in this case. which is that somehow the presidential records act makes these charges go away. or absolve some of criminal conduct here. what they have said is that is so outside the norm. they call it baseless, borderline frivolous, and they say they're ready to argue

against that, if they make that argument, they shouldn't use it as an excuse to call this case complex, and ask for an indefinite, you know, indeterminate delay, katy. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. joining me now is former prosecutor and nbc news legal analyst, charles coleman, so judge aileen cannon has a hearing on tuesday where she'll decide how to land on this. i mean, delays happen in the legal system. >> they do. >> john sale who's a south florida prosecutor or defense attorney was telling me that judge aileen cannon has had a trial in front of her for 18 months, an 18-month delay over a medicare fraud issue. things get delayed quite a long time. >> right. >> if you were considering this, what would you think would be fair to the prosecution, jack smith, and donald trump's defense team? >> katy, there's a lot to watch here with respect to judge cannon's decision and how she goes about it. let's remember that everyone is watching to see how judge cannon

approaches donald trump, whether it's going to be citizen trump or former president trump, and affording special liberties. how she reasons this is probably going to be more important, you're going to get insight in terms of how she's thinking about him. the other thing people need to watch for is this is not his only legal matter. he's currently under investigation in several other jurisdictions and may be indicted somewhere else. the reason this is significant is because this playbook from the trump attorneys we're going to see again, and so it's going to be in some respects instructive for other judges. it is going to be really interesting to watch how this unfolds. the argument and delay with respect to him running a presidential campaign, and being in the midst of a presidential campaign, so we should wait indefinitely until after that is done is unreasonable. i think the notion of him having

other legal matters in other jurisdictions that need to be prioritized does have some level of credence, and merit, and so the more that those things come up, the more likely that down the line we'd see the possibility of future delays. >> let me ask you about what the "new york times" is reporting, a question that a lot of witnesses are being asked by special counsel's prosecutors on the other case, the january 6th case. jared kushner apparently according to the times sat for an interview, and he was asked whether donald trump knew he lost the election. kushner said he believed his father-in-law believed that he won and that there was fraud. why does it matter for the prosecution to prove intent? i say to myself, if i'm going 50 in a 35 zone but i think the speed limit is 50 and i tell the cops, oh, gosh, i thought it was 50, they're still going to write me a ticket. why does it matter here? if he broke the law, why does it

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concerned with national disparities in black maternal health and we're proud of the work we've done and continue to do to address these issues in los angeles as well as the state and national levels. joining me now attorney and host of "the verdict with judge hatchett." glenda hatchett. kyira was her daughter-in-law. it's hard to seat photos of her with her other son and looking happy and healthy, the photo of her in the hospital, presumably before this all happened. what went so wrong? >> it was wrong in that they did not respond to her. katie, she was healthy. she was vibrant. she spoke five languages. she was a marathon runner. she had a pilot's license. she was absolutely incredible. and to walk into that hospital and never leave, was unimaginable. but what happened, frankly, is that they ignored her. they ignored her and she

literally hemorrhaged for ten hours. by the time they got her back to the operating room, it was too late to save her life. there were three liters of blood in her abdomen and she went into cardiac arrest. it was totally preventable. had they responded to the request for the mri to be done at about 5:30 that afternoon, she would be alive. and pleading over and over, they ignored her. and it wasn't until 10 hours of her literally hemorrhaging that she lost her life. and this shouldn't happen to anyone. it should not happen to anyone. because i have a platform, my son has a platform, we've been able to bring a lot of attention to this issue. but what about the families that don't have that platform and

that's why this is so important. >> you say it shouldn't happen to anyone. it happens to black women more than anyone. >> absolutely. >> why does it happen to black women more? >> we see it across the board. we are the worst of any industrialized nation. the disparity among black women is why this investigation is so important. we're talking about black women dying at a rate three times more often than their white counterparts and that is concerning. there's research that says that probably is more like three to four times. but let me say this, katy, the reason this investigation now by the federal government through the hhs department of human -- health and human services is unprecedented and so important because it raises exactly the question that you're posing, why is there such a disparity among the deaths of black women?

why are black women being ignored? why are black women's stories not being told and why are they not getting the kind of help that they should? that's why the civil rights division is investigating this. that's why my son filed a civil rights case because of the disparity and so many black women dying. the treatment between white women and black women in this country is huge, and that's why we're seeing the difference. >> studies show it's not just -- it is about race. it's about race. not class, it's not background. it is race. cedars-sinai is a good hospital in los angeles, one of the best, if not the best in los angeles. i have 30 more seconds, but i want to give you the last quick word. >> the quick word they're not doing enough. they're saying they're doing this, that, and the other and it's not enough. until the feds tie in the investigation, because they're responsible for federal funding to not only cedars-sinai, but

all hospitals, will we see a major difference. this lip service and small grants to community-based organizations is not enough. it is not enough. and there has to be more done. >> so story for this loss and your son and for your grandchild. >> children. >> sorry. >> there are two. >> it's awful. absolutely awful. because the babies survived. judge hatchett thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. this is important to me. thank you so much. >> that is going to it for me today. "deadline white house" starts right now. hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. we have lots of new developments in special counsel jack smith's investigation into whether the twice impeached, twice indicted, disgraced ex-president mishandled classified documents. a new report details how smith sent a target letter to a trump organization employee