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on "the reidout" -- >> i'm proud to be a pro-life governor and i'll be a pro-life president. of course, i want to sign pro-life legislation. i think it's something that we need to develop a culture of life in this country. >> the republican presidential candidates except for trump flock to iowa to embrace wildly unpopular issues like an extreme abortion ban. it's surely no way to win a presidential election. >> plus, desantis in damage control mode after failing to launch without extreme awkwardness and glitchy failures. he's looking to reassure right wing donors and activist said that he's not scott walker or jeb bush. also tonight, new reporting on a target letter sent to the
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special counsel -- sent by the special counsel to a trump staffer, which could be an indicator of how jack smith plans to prosecute the classified documents case. but we begin tonight with some advice for the republican party. to win elections you got to read the room. you listen to the american people. you pay attention to their priorities. and then those americans vote. based on what they want. it isn't complicated. it's the kind of stuff you learn in the third grade, except whoops, you don't want third grader reading books anymore. republicans simply cannot read the room, choosing instead to occupy a much smaller voter bloc of social conservatives who are hell bent on policies that are not about the unborn but rather about undoing 20th century progress. today, the 2024 republican field minus donald trump addressed evangelical voters at the family leadership summit in iowa. the event was hosted by fired
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former fox host tucker carlson, who just days ago sat down to interview accused rapist and human trafficker andrew tate for his new show on elon twitter, good times. here's a sampling of what republicans and tucker's furrowed eyebrows pitched to evangelicals in the early voting state today. >> america needs positive, powerful, biblically sound leadership to regain the high ground. >> how many covid shots did you take and how do you feel about it now? in retrospect? >> how many covid shots did you take? >> zero. january 6th, what was that? do you think it was an insurrection? >> i have never used the word insurrection, tucker, over the last two years but it was a riot that took place at the capitol that day. >> at the same event, kim reynolds signed her draconian six-week abortion ban into law.
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>> i convened a special session of iowa's general assembly to once again address the most important human rights cause of our time, protecting unborn human lives from the atrocity of abortion. a worthy battle and one i will never concede. i have never been prouder to once again sign a bill into law. >> the governor's choice of venue for signing the bill is intentional, of course. playing into the weird right wing delusion that abortion bans are popular. they're not. not even in iowa where 61% of adults say abortion should be legal in all or most cases. iowa voters don't want their freedom snatched away. they don't want abortion banned before many people even know they're pregnant. bans that shackle rape and incest survivors, many of whom are children, by forcing their tiny little bodies to give birth. no one wants this.
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except these -- this tiny little evangelical enclave at this summit and the trolls who want to control women. forced birth is an extreme position, and extremely unpopular, and yet, republican leaders are leaning all the way in as they giddily celebrate their violent agenda at christian prom. meanwhile, republicans in washington are waging a culture war with the military. today, the house narrowly passed a deeply partisan defense bill that would limit abortion access, transgender care, and diversity training for military personnel. going all in on culture wars, pushing voter suppression as the only tactic. this is pretty much the republican platform for 2024. the stuff they have been doing for years despite elections, plural, proving that the strategy is a dud. voting is what forces democracies to listen, and yet the gilead party is refusing to listen. americans will reject this, of
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course. it's practically written on the wall in disco neon font, but they will not read the room. they're pretending they're not or they simply refuse to do it. here's a secret, you won't win. joining me is maria teresa kumar, stuart stevens, senior adviser for the lincoln project, and robert jones, president of the public religion institute and author of the upcoming book, the hidden roots of white supremacy. i want to start with you because the thing i really can't understand, i do want to ask all of you about this, but i want to start with you because you're my numbers guy, is that abortion is not even a close call issue in terms of whether people think it should be legal or illegal. and that includes most american christians, right? i mean, talk me down on that if i'm wrong. i don't think there is a majority that's bigger than maybe 15% of people who want for instance a national abortion ban. >> joy, that's exactly right. you talk about reading the room.
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they might want to read some polls, both nationally and in iowa. again, 6 in 10 iowans support the legality of abortion. it's two-thirds of americans that support the legality of abortion. if you look at iowa, let's be clear, this is a near total ban on -- very few exceptions. we ask people even in iowa, we think of this as the heartland, only 5%, 5% of iowans support a total ban on abortion. like that's how extreme this position is. and even if you look at other christians, right, otherevangele by far the outlier. only a quarter say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, but most other christian groups including african american protestants, catholics, both latino and white catholics, including jews and other people of faith, have majorities supporting abortion, and if you look state by state, there is no
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state in which more than 14% support a total ban on abortion. 1-4. so that's how out of step this ban is. and it's worth noting too, just one quick thing, white evangelicals are this kind of shrinking outlier group. so even in iowa, they make up only 1 in 5 iowans. so this is the kind of minority of the iowa population. there's far more unaffiliated iowans. 29%, compared to only 19% of iowans who are white evangelical protestants. this is a group that holds extreme views on abortion and a shrinking and graying portion of the electorate. >> stuart, i didn't major in math but i can do math. that sounds like math that can't win an election. you used to run republican campaigns. make it make sense hot appealing to 15% of the population even in a state like iowa can ever get
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you to win or be re-elected. i don't understand what their math is. >> even worse than just the top line numbers here, because the intensity here, when you ask what is very favorable and very unfavorable, it has shifted now. so the very unfavorable on these new abortion restrictions is twice and more what the very favorable is. so you know, there was a time when there was more intensity among the anti-abortion crowd that they have now achieved a lot of what they wanted and it's probably a national human reaction. intensity is on the other side. it's the same with guns. look, the group that we're meeting with today in iowa, it's a group that has one thing in common. they always endorse someone, whoever they endorse has never been an elected president. so i think they're going to keep this perfect string intact this year. you know, donald trump didn't win iowa last time, and they
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played hail to the chief when he walked into the room come the following january. so it's really this sort of cycle that the republican party is in of trying to be more pure. and it's just -- you saw tucker carlson asking the governor of arkansas if he had a covid shot. i mean, this is just absurd. 85% of americans have covid shots. >> right. >> so you know, if i'm in politics i'll be with the 85%, you can have the other. it's really a non-governing party that is just spinning deeper and deeper into this darkness. >> right, they'll be pure, but i don't see how they'll be purely elected. mtk, listen, i think people forget, barack obama won iowa. like, iowa is not a completely unwinnable state for democrats. it just happens to have this far right evangelical government right now. but you know, is it because
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states like georgia got away with this? republicans in georgia passed almost the same kind of law and got away with it. texas, they did it and got away with it in the midterms. all of them got re-elected. is it because democratic voters aren't punishing people because even and independents, independent voters are very much against this stuff. is it because these guys aren't being punished for it by getting voted out that they're doing it? >> i think part of it is absolutely they're not getting punished enough. i also think that we have to look at a lot of these electoral maps. some of them are very much jam packing these concentration of voters through gerrymandering where it becomes harder to compete. you mentioned a state like texas. texas technically in the last census, joy, they gained basically four congressional seats. three were supposed to be latino and one was supposed to be african american. that's not how it panned out. that's one blaze where we have to systemically work on to insure there's an reimagination
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of how do you conduct the census and what does the implication of that census have when it comes to drawing congressional lines. taking a step back, what the republicans right now are doing is that they're trying to solidify a base for their primaries so they're going as far right as possible with this idea that they're going to be able to tack into the middle to win the hearts and minds of the majority of americans doesn't make sense but it's impossible. the only pathways they have are the highly disenfranchisement they're doing at the state level. like a state like north carolina and georgia and iowa and texas, it's that kind of restrictions. when you have all 50 states basically saying yes, we certify the 2020 election, yes, it was above board, and then shortly after, literally the month after in january, they introduced over 300 pieces of legislation to impact 2024. so you need to have a battle at the courts. you need to reimagine how we do gerrymandering in the country, like get away with that.
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at the end of the day, you also need to talk to voters because we're expecting on the eve of 2024 election over -- excuse me, over 12 million more jung eligible voters than last go round. what they really don't believe in are these culture wars. >> and the question i guess i have to robby is so white evangelicals are in the tank already, right? that 15% are going to vote for whatever republican, if it's tim scott, i think desantis is unelectable. he's unelectable. his positions are so far to the right, but that base will vote for whoever they throw at them, whether it's trump or not. but you have to at some point be able to draw other people. if you're the abortion ban party, and you're the party that's embracing hate, i don't understand how you get beyond that. is it that they just no longer care whether or not they're able to win elections? they just want what they want?
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>> well, i think maria is right here. they're in a bit of a death spiral. they're kind of locked in. they have become the party of a shrinking demographic. they're the white conservative christian party. nationwide, about two-thirds of republicans, nearly 7 in 10, are conservative white christians. and in iowa in the caucuses, it's about two-thirds are white evangelical protestants in iowa. i think it's they're stuck in this kind of primary mandate that does put them at a very difficult position if not an impossible position when it comes to the general election. you go out that far to the extreme, again, 14% of any state supporting a policy like this, really hard to come back. nearly impossible to come back to the center. and certainly win when everything is above the board. >> and you know, david french wrote i think a really smart piece, where he talked about, he
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sort of compared what elon musk has done to twitter to what trump has done to the republican party. essentially, they're in this constant sort of fight and flight. they feel like they have been pushed to the margins culturally so they're like, we're just going to use raw power. we think the left used raw power to take over all the institutions, the elite institutions, the universities, so we're going to bludgeon them with our policies and force them on them. in the end, that doesn't get you cultural power or actual power or does it? >> no, look, i mean, i think republicans are aware that the country is headed to a minority majority country. and all the stephen millers in the world can't do that, so you look at trump's coalition. it's exactly what we're talking about. 85% white in a country that's 60% white, less so since we have been talking, and that's not going to change. what they're trying to do is curate the vote. they're trying to make it more difficult for those who are
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younger, those who are at the lower economic end of the spectrum, to vote. and you know, i would embrace culture wars if i was a democrat, buzz they're winning the culture wars. you know, don't run away from this stuff because the flipside of this is that more people are for this. it's like all these culture wars republicans are picking. who won the nike versus donald trump -- >> that's correct. we are out of time, but i want to give mtk the last word here because shouldn't kim reynolds be target number one? if they need somebody to blame for who took away their rights, there she is. she has to seek re-election some time. >> i have to say, her audacity for her to say she cares for unborn children and you look at how many children are in poverty in iowa and it's not sincere. what we need to make sure is folks coming out of these bans, what you're going to start hearing, i think a lot of
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progressive movements, the real stories of women who had to decide between their fetus and their life. and in cases where mothers have lost their life. this is no joke, and everybody keeps saying that the government should be involved. no, science should be involved. we have to make sure we remind people this is a moral obligation to keep our citizens as hementy as possible. >> the job of politicicize to tell people who did it to you. they keep telling you they're going to do it to you. thank you all very much. up next on "the reidout," the doj reportedly sets in soish on a trump employee who may have lied to them about trump's classified documents horde. that and much more on the many investigations targeting the former president when "the reidout" continues. i'm saving with liberty mutual, mom. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. you could save $700 dollars just by switching. ooooh, let me put a reminder on my phone. on the top of the pile! oh. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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there's been a steady drip of developments today on the donald trump legal front with new reporting on the multiple investigations from special counsel jack smith's office. in the investigation of trump's mishandling of classified documents, abc news is reporting that smith sent a target letter to a trump organization employee who is suspected of lying to investigators. the letter reportedly included threats of potential charges. it indicated that the staffer might have perjured himself during a may appearance before the federal grand jury hearing evidence in the case. investigators were scrutinizing the employee's role in the handling of surveillance footage
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at mar-a-lago, specifically from the security camera near the room where classified documents were stored. remember last month, "the new york times" reported on the special counsel's pursuit of whether trump and some of his aides sought to interfere with the government's attempt to obtain security camera footage from mar-a-lago that could shed light on how those documents were stored and who had access to them. meanwhile, in a follow-up to what we were talking about last nights on trump's efforts to remain in power after his 2020 election loss, cnn is reporting the special counsel has interviewed the secretaries of state for both pennsylvania and new mexico. that would mean the special counsel's team has now spoken to or subpoenaed officials in all seven of the key states that were targeted by trump and his allies to present slates of fake alternate electors in order to subvert the electoral college. joining me is a federal prosecutor. thank you for being here.
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let's start with the surveillance tapes. what do you take from this target letter? does it sound like they were trying to stop the surveillance tapes from maybe being turned over? what do you make of it? >> it's unclear from the reporting. as you indicated, the reporting suggests the concern, the sort of proximate concern is a misrepresentation or a lie to investigators in the course of the investigation. but it does seem like potentially surrounding that, that lie maybe potentially could have concerned the production of those materials. but it's really hard to say based on the sort of limited details we have at the moment. >> if somebody gets a target letter, does that indicate you're definitely getting prosecuted or there still might be an attempt to flip that person against their main target. >> well, it can still mean that there's an effort to flip that person. it does mean pursuant to justice department guidelines that prosecutors believe there's substantial evidence linking that person to a crime and that person is a defendant, you do not want to get a target letter.
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it means almost certain you're going to be charged or that prosecutors want to charge you. >> i would definitely not want to get one. let's talk about this second piece, which is all of the secretaries of state now from the contested states, they weren't really contested, biden won them, but donald trump attempted to contest them and create these fake slaets of electors. the facts that all of the attorneys general have been interviewed, does that indicate anything about a potential timeline to where this case may be coming to conclusion. >> it further suggests that they're nearing a possible conclusion of the main thrust of their investigation. this is stuff that quite honestly i was sort of pulling my hair out through 2021 and much of 2022. i mean, when you heard the call with brad raffensperger, right, any sentient person would say i wonder if trump or his allies did similar things in other states because flipping george would not have been enough to win the election.
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this was something that should have happened very, very early on. i say better late than never, of course. but it does suggest that they're sort of ticking the boxes of the things we would want them to do. >> there have been some hail mary, i would describe them as hail mary attempts by donald trump to try to erase the charges against him. trying to basically ask a federal court to sort of nix the georgia case, which doesn't seem likely. they also attempted to get a delay in the trial in florida, the documents case. this was some of the response from jack smith's office. defendants trump and nauta declare they can nlt receive a fair trial prior to the conclusion of the next presidential election. they urge the court to withdraw the scheduling order and not consider a new trial date until some unspecified time. and the rest of it, what was even more shady, i have to say, that was maybe the least shady
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part, they pretty much dropped a hammer on that claim. can you foresee a judge in any way taking donald trump's side given how strong the reputation of it was by the government? >> yeah, you know, i would hope that a judge would not take this open ended notion of for a trial at some point in the future maybe very seriously, but of course, we know this particular judge may be particularly inclined toward trump and she's issued rulings that have drawn extraordinary amounts of widespread criticism, so it's hard to say here. i will say, you know, i had the fortune of conducting a poll for politico fairly recently, and one of the questions we asked respondents is when should this trial occur? almost two-thirds of people said they wanted it, including almost half of the republican respondents said they wanted this trial to occur before next november. >> you would think for the good of the american people, people might want to know whether or not this person was adjudicated
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guilty or not guilty. even if he were to somehow get acquitted, he might want that for his own campaign to know how this played out. >> that was one, i thought, very plausible theory, but we now know from the submission that he does not want a verdict or a trial before this. but it would seem at least just based on the information that we at politico released that the american public wants to know the results of this before they potentially consider re-electing this man. >> then i have to ask you, i feel like whenever i get somebody in here, the question of whether or not donald trump could try to get out of this with a big deal, a state and federal blanket, you know, admit crimes, get a deal. do you think that is plausible? >> i would have a hard time seeing it at this moment. i mean, the fact that temperamentally, everything about his life suggests he would not be open toward sort of any sort of compromise or humility
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or, you know, admitting any sort of wrongdoing, but it would be hard at this point. there are these multiple fronts. cases have been filed. prosecutors intend to move forward. his time to resolve this, he had plenty of time to resolve the federal case without charges and he blew right past all those opportunities. >> yeah. all right, we shall see how it all plays out. thank you very much. and coming up, hollywood actors and writers are calling out the ceos cashing in on their hard work while they're struggling to pay the rent and put food on the table. "the reidout" continues after this. shingles. some describe it as pulsing electric shocks or sharp, stabbing pains. ♪♪ this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks. a pain so intense, you could miss out on family time. the virus that causes shingles is likely already inside of you. if you're 50 years or older,
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sleepovers just aren't what they used to be. a house full of screens? basically no hiccups? you guys have no idea how good you've got it. how old are you? like, 80? back in my day, it was scary stories and flashlights. we don't get scared. oh, really? mom can see your search history. that's what i thought.
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streaming residuals and guardrails when it comes to the use of a.i. it's the first time writers and actors have been on strike at the first time since 1960 and they're ready for a long fight. >> people tend to think of actors as being rich and famous, but most of us are working class citizens and blue collar like most of america. >> rents have gone up, the cost of living has gone up, groceries have skyrocketed. and we still can't make a living wage, and that's not right. >> morale is high. everybody is here to support the cause. and to get what we feel we deserve and need. >> we're here for the long haul. >> i should note comcast, the corporation that owns our parent company, nbcuniversal, is one of the entertainment companied represented by the executives they're striking against. and some employees of nbcuniversal are represented by the writers guild. joining me is chris wirther
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spoon, ceo of pop viewers and msnbc entertainment writer. so good to see you. >> thank you, joy. >> it's so great to see you in person. that's a new thing. let's talk about this, because i feel like, yvette nicole brown was on with us last night. she made a great point. people perceive that all of the actors are like her, somebody famous that you know, but most actors aren't. they're working class, as you heard in the clips. how long can they hold out? not the yvette nicole browns of the world but the average actor. >> i talked to my friend, an acclaimed director. most actors are really free-lancers and writers too. they live and get cast on a show. they have a few months they're working. in between, they're kind of living off the residuals, off the savings. that's why the residuals piece is so important. when you're doing a streaming deal, you don't get the same residuals you got when you were doing network deals. that's why the nanny, fran
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drescher explained the background on the nanny. we were living high off the hog. we were getting so much more money, but now in the streaming era, those residuals are laughable. and it's actually kind of criminal when you stop and think about it. >> it feels like the business changed so much when netflix went from being blockbuster video. they used to be a clone, to being streaming. how did the business not adjust? because you're right, there used to be these series that went on for 22 episodes. a rite writer could get paid for the 22. how could it be that now they have a business where people get almost nothing? >> and ceos get a lot. >> millions. >> that's why it's going to take a very long time. you have to literally redo the business model for all these companies. the networks back in the day, the way you were able to get residuals and the fee you paid for talent was so different. now, a lot of streamers got their hand caught in the cookie jar. they have been churning out a ton of content. we have about eight major
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streaming platforms that happened in a rate of ten years. the rate at which they have churned out content, they haven't made the important step of taking into account how they can keep that up and still pay these actors and these writers what they deserve. >> watched "black mirror" i love it, and joan is awful was the first episode, and it was a.i., they had taken salma hayek and used her image without her consent, but somehow in a contract she didn't realize she had signed it away. how real is that threat, and can they at this point get that taken care of in a contract? >> i think duncan ireland, he was the counterpart to fran drescher yesterday. he's the chief negotiator. he was so phenomenal in giving this real depiction of a.i. they said it's a generous offer. they'll scan extras' faces, and there's extras in all of the shows we watch. then they'll use their likeness in perpetuity. pay them for one day, and they'll see themselves several years later in a paramount plus
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show and not getting paid. and this a.i. technology exists, and harrison ford's new film, the first half hour of the film, that is not harrison ford as we know him. that's an a.i. version of harrison ford, old footage from lucas film. this technology is fought far from the distance. >> how long is this going to go on? >> i think a very long time. again, to make this work, they have to get rid of the overhead, restructure -- >> can't the overhead be the ceo salaries. bob iger is saying they're being unrealistic. he's got a $21 million contract. >> disney's streaming service the first quarter lost a billion dollars in revenue. all of these streaming services, no one is profitable. they have to go back to the drawing board, look at the business models and look at how to be fair and pay folks what they're worth. that might mean instead of putting out 12 things on netflix each month, you're putting out three shows. >> and maybe shaving down the
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ceo salary so you can make room. and the bonuses. if they're losing money, they shouldn't get bonus. >> tell me how that math is mathing. when you're not profitable, you're going to get a $100 million bonus. >> thank you. still ahead, the incredible shrinking campaign of poor little ron desantis. the republican party's most awkward candidate tries to reassure donors as he struggles to regain traction. it's not looking good. we'll be right back.
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to say it's been a rough week for ron desantis is a massive understatement. after weeks of shrinking poll numbers, desantis' floundering presidential campaign team is desperately trying to reassure donors that his campaign only looks stalled and that this is all a part of their plan. according to a confidential memo obtained by nbc news the campaign says their plan is to focus on the early voting states, and they're not yet putting any resources into super tuesday battlegrounds. which in the world of campaigns is not a great sign. it may be too little too late for desantis as some of his wealthiest donors may already be looking to jump ship. politico is reporting some donors who had hoped desantis could beat trump are now giving senator tim scott of south carolina a serious look. saying their faith in desantis has been shaken by early campaign missteps and his hard line positions on abortion, trans rights and other culture war issues.
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even conservative media king maker rupert murdoch who favored desantis since early on in biden's presidency is starting to look elsewhere. reportedly telling people he wants book banning governor glenn youngkin of virginia to jump into the race. but it's not just desantis' presidential campaign that's faltering. it's also his leadership in florida. right now, the state currently has the highest inflation rate in the country. a reported brain drain as university professors and teachers leave the state and open education jobs remain untilled. more than half a dozen conventions pulling out citing the unwelcome environment for lgbtq and black people. and outrage from women seniors over a new law that ends permanent alimony, and also an uptick in cases of malaria. and on top of it all, this week, farmers insurance announced it was dropping tens of thousands of policies in florida, just the latest insurer to pull business from the state that sees a disproportionate amount of climate disasters.
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and how did governor desantis respond to all of this, you may ask? by telling floridians to just wait it out through hurricane season. saying in a radio interview, knock on wood, we won't have a big storm this summer. joining me now, florida state representative anna escomonty and dean obeidallah, host of dean obeidallah show on sirius xm. representative, i want to start with you because florida's feeling like a hot mess right now. it doesn't seem like anything is going well. it's kind of shocking to me that this man is running around the country pitching himself to make america florida. florida is a mess. >> you don't want to be like florida, joy. first, great to see you and dean. you're absolutely right. floridians cannot afford florida right now, and another insurance company is dropping policies in florida. aaa also said they're dropping policy owners in home and auto in the state because of them pact of climate change and a lack of action.
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our republican supermajority leaders have decided to not take. i mean, this is a really dire moment in florida where everyday people are struggling to make ends meet. meanwhile, our governor is not even appealing to his base of voters despite the fact he's gone all the way to the far right in an attempt to do that. >> let me play ron desantis being asked about his poll numbers on his favorite network, fox. >> why is it in your estimation the numbers have not reflected your success in florida? >> i think if you look at the people like the corporate media, who are they going after? who do they not want to be the nominee? they're going after me. who is the president of mexico attacking because he knows we'll be strong on the border and hold him accountable and the cartels? he's going after me. so i think if you look at all of these people that are responsible for a lot of the ills in our society, they're
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targeting me as the person they don't want to see as the candidate. >> back when i used to work on campaigns, when you blamed the media, it means you have already lost. >> you blame the president of mexico, you have lost. first of all, ron desantis needs an a.i. version of himself that's more humanoid because he's not human esque. also, i have to be honest because i wrote about it month ago, when donald trump was pummeling, he wouldn't punch back. what we know about the gop base, they like strength. this guy, i have seen welcome mats with more of a backbone. he doesn't stand up for himself. he won't punch back. now the result is if you're not going to punch back against a 77-year-old two-time indicted guy, how are you going to stand up to the enemies of our country, and even the gop base, little by little underneath, see that, the more you see desantis personally, the less you like. there's something about him inherently unlikable. >> something or everything? sorry.
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anna, representative, sorry, let me ask you this, because in florida, i wonder if he is starting to take an internal hit. because the abortion ban alone makes him unelectable on a national scale, period. all of these except for a handful of them in the republican primary, including tim scott, they all want a national abortion ban. but so, he is done. i wonder if inside, for the people are starting to realize that, even some republicans. >> mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the loser of them all? i mean, desantis has not only failed his republican base, but he still in the general electorate. you are absolutely right, joy. these positions that he's taken, a six-week abortion ban, it's so extreme that people don't even know that they're pregnant yeah at that point. of course, he wants to go further. he has made speeches -- not only is it unpopular in our state, it's unpopular in the
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country. more and more floridians are steady light and realize that this guy is a performance, and not even paying for. >> he has really filled and -- the first day of florida. people did not at the freedom to be prosperous. >> jennifer reuben wrote a column that the lies are no longer true. more than 700,000 floridians have left, more than any other state. they're leaving, even the opera people. i have to now bring in -- i am sorry, i apologize. how is it that rfk junior tried to have a meet the media lunch, and it descended into, i can't describe any other way, but flatulence, loud, angry flatulence? what happened? >> he'll blame something in the water for the, a vaccine, a side effect that causes extreme flatulence. there are people who call my show, like one thing about him
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-- okay, you like that about him, he was 25 other things you should be concerned about. >> with the date like about him? >> some at them are anti-vaxxers. they're against the war in ukraine, but he is not articulating any position. we support freedom and self determination. as a palestinian american, i have kinship to people in ukraine who want their own self destiny, but you eat up on that. the term transgender, some of it is that make sense, not politically but intellectually, i'm not sure what is going on. so, flatulence, you know. >> the thing is, representative eskamani, the flatulence was started because two men got into an argument because one set climate change is a lie, and so he was angry before as the question was proposed to rfk junior became a change, he did not like it, so he started fighting. make that make sense, i can't. you live in a state where the climate crisis is here, it's already driving insurers out of
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your state. has the republican -- have your colleagues on the other side at the i'll except it because, literally, insurance companies are leaving? >> i am sad to say that i did read the article, because i don't know who did it, honestly. i'm sorry i did not know that, the entire context of it, but you are right, in the context of reality check, climate change is real, florida is directly impacted by. if you spent time in south florida, miami, we have high tide and flooding the streets. of course, extreme weather patterns. the water temperatures around our historically high, so my republican colleagues have taken no action on this. in fact, desantis vetoed millions of dollars for a position. >> and also malaria and the highest inflation rate in the country, look it up. rep. anna eskamani and dean obeidallah stay with me. it will play right after this
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of another week, which means it's time to play our favorite game, that's the music we love, -- of the week. back with me, our florida representative anna eskamani, and dean obeidallah, the media extraordinaire. representative eskamani, ladies for, us who want the week? >> i almost set orcas but decided to go with the labor movement, as they have just
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been incredible to see workers from utsa to actors to writers all stand up in solidarity. it's so inspirational to see. >> orcas is a good choice. dean, who won the week? >> i would say joe biden at a phenomenal week. inflation at its lowest in two years. new job claims are down, unemployment claims, nato, he stood up to putin, did not suck up to putin like the. today, we learned that he made 70 plus million dollars in the first quarter, doubled on. >> and the breaking news later today, he announced student loan relief, a under doesn't people get statements when they did not think that they would get it. that is an excellent choice, but ice doled -- who knew, who knew that she was much of a that as. here she is doing a little bit of what she did this week. >> pay up, we stand tall, you have to wake up and smell the
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-- we are labor, and we stand tall, and we demand respect and to be honored for our contribution. you share the wealth because you cannot exist without us. >> from the 92 the boss, fran josh or. ana eskamani and dean obeidallah, thank you. that's tonight's read out. all in with chris hayes starts right now. read out. >> good evening from new york, i am chris ace. we have new evidence tonight, the special counsel prosecuted trump for his willful retention of classified materials is not done with this investigation. it's notable because it's been more than eight months since thump was -- incite a miami federal courthouse, and while trump and his valet codefendant face 38 count indictment, multiple outlets reporting today the prosecutors are threatening new charges against a another trump employee in their investigat

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