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good luck to everybody. we've got a lot more coming up, folks, you are watching msnbc, our second hour starts right now. nbc, our second hour starts right now. hey everybody, i am yasmin, if you are joining us, welcome, great to see you. we are following several breaking news stories right now including the latest on the deadly flooding in the state of pennsylvania. at least four people killed with more missing including two children, an infant tendoy toddler. meanwhile, millions under extreme heat advisories later on this hour. we will look at how to keep safe from the dangerous heat. and unanswered questions, a woman, vanishes after calling police about a toddler in trouble, and then just as suddenly returns. a live report on that ahead. plus, the white house is making one senator the poster child for the efforts military, even
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as both sides debated the defense bill that has become a maga agenda political football. >> i hope all of these measures stay in there because the military should not be paying for abortion tourism or -- they should be buying weapons we need to defend our nation and to support our troops. >> my hope is that we will, in fact, be able to pass a clean nda that really meets the needs of our department of defense, families, and people. >> later on this hour i will be speaking with democratic congressman, stansbury, about that. all of that plus a mother's rage. >> we are asking. we are begging you if you will not support our queer kids, we leave them alone. shame on you. you better, all of you! >> i will be joined by lindsay
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patrick wright who went to war with the local school board to protect her lgbtq daughter, that interview as a head as well. we begin this hour, once again, in bucks county, pennsylvania. just north of philadelphia, about an hour from now, we are expected to get an update from officials there at a press conference. as responders are continuing to work to locate and rescue survivors from a deadly flash flood. right now, we know that at least four people were killed, it went over six inches of rain, suddenly fell within two hours on saturday sweeping cars off of the road. flooding nearby waterways. right now three others are still missing, including two young children. i want to get right back to nbc's kathy park who is in bucks county p a for us. kathy, if you will, we checked last hour, any updates in the last hour or so? and really, what you are hearing from local residents there with this incredible tragedy. >> yeah. yasmin, we are just hearing some horrific stories of survival, really. we just spoke with eli weisman, he is a longtime resident, he
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said that he was on his motorcycle with his daughter at the time when the storms came roaring through this area, and it was just caught off guard. he said he was actually swept off his motorcycle along with his daughter, and was clinging on to tree limbs just to stay alive. this happened in a matter of minutes, and i asked him, how did he get out? miraculously, he was able to get out along with his daughter, without any sort of aid. but unfortunately, as you mentioned, there were several people who were washed away, four confirmed fatalities at this point. three people still missing. among those three, two young children, and an adult female. and right now, crews are still working around the clock to find the missing. earlier today, when we heard from officials, are saying that the rain came down so quickly that the fire chief is saying he thinks 6 to 7 inches in under an hour. and it just was shocking for folks.
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especially when there was this driving through, he said there were 11 vehicles on this roadway behind me. this is washington crossing. and three of the cars were swept away because water came in all directions. it came from the side, and it rose up. he said it got so high that it probably was at least five feet high in some places because it swallowed vehicles. that is what we are talking about. that is what we saw yesterday. and today we are assessing the damage that we saw. some buckled roadways from the floodwaters. and we spoke with tanya just a few moments ago, just about how bad the situation was and how quickly this all came on. take a listen. >> it was pretty bad because you can see the actual flooding happen. use all remnants of it and trying to get around all of the debris was pretty difficult. it was a fire and anything you can imagine with first responders as well and just, you know, people set up to help out in any way that they could. and they ended up at a church.
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>> and jasmine, still very much an active situation right now, unfortunately officials are saying this is likely a recovery message at this point as they look for those who are missing. they are up against a lot of challenges right now. not only are they dealing with a constant downpour in this area, as i mentioned earlier there are a lot of debris on the ground as well, and the crews that are kind of surveying the -- we are told this is a remote area, there are steep incline, so they are up against a lot of roadblocks at this point. yasmin? >> hi kathy. what do we know about the two missing children. i believe that it was an infant and a toddler, right? >> yes. right now we should be getting an update in the 4:00 hour and hopefully, we will have a little bit more information, we are told that they are likely from the same family, we know that it is a nine month old and a two year old and an adult female, but that is all the
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information that we are releasing at this point. no names are being released. and unfortunately, as i said, and they think it is going to be a recovery mission. >> that is devastating. kathy park, thank you so much. more breaking news from the severe weather we've all been dealing, with over 1100 flights are canceled as of this afternoon across the northeastern u.s.. flightaware is seeing some 350 of those flights involved newark liberty international airport, and new jersey. there are also ground stops and two other airports with flash flooding in the area. so by the way, make sure to check your airline if in fact you are traveling today. all right, let's head over to washington where a senate showdown is looming after house republicans have passed a deeply partisan defense authorization act that includes amendments, abortion, trans rights, as well as diversity. joining us now to talk about this, white house correspondent, mike memoli. good to talk to you. what are we hearing this
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afternoon from the biden camp and how confident are they that they can eventually pass this bill without these problematic amendments? >> yasmin, we really do have to step back and see how unusual it is that this defense policy bill, the ndaa, as we call it here inside the beltway, it has become such a partisan flash point. there are often some very significant policy disagreements and discussions that are happening behind the scenes during the writing of these bills. but they often end up passing on significant bipartisan margins. and if anything there are bigger differences between the white house and congress says a unified force that we would see between democrats and republicans. that obviously has changed as a group of very conservative republicans in the house, really pushing for some of the so-called culture war amendments that are being included in this, dealing with issues like lgbt equality, like abortion, like transgender issues. and so, that is why we saw the white house, in the form of
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jake sullivan, the national security advisor, really coming out aggressively today predicting that this bill will not come to the presidents desk in its current form. we know obviously, the next step is in the senate, where we would expect that some of the more controversial amendments are likely to be stripped out. we also know in the senate, one single senator can hold up the process in a significant way. that speaks to the other big issue we are seeing here in washington which is the hold that alabama senator, tommy tuberville, has placed on a number of promotions within the department of defense. this is really becoming a big flash, point you heard the president even singling out tuberville on foreign soil for potentially putting our national security at risk in doing so. it was interesting to hear sullivan today on sunday, also speaking up pretty strongly about what he sees as at risk here because of tuberville's actions. take a listen to what he said today. >> for the first time in 150 years we do not have -- to the marine corps. we will not have a chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or
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naval operations. this is making america less safe. why? because of the attempt to score domestic political points. it just has got to stop. >> expect to see the white house really ramp up and continue to hammer senator tuberville over this this week. they will be really highlighting some of the real impacts that this is having. not just on the military families of those individuals who are having their promotions be delayed. what this means for them on a practical level. but also what it means for military communities. there are obviously a number assistant if it can towns with significant military populations, including in senator tuberville's home state of alabama, that will also see some disruptions as a result of this and that is really something that the white house is eager to put a spotlight on. they really do see this as a political leader for them a contrast between the president who came back from a trip highlighting what he has done to strengthen our foreign policy, and republicans, who they say are out of the mainstream even with their own party with some of these actions. >> all right, mike, thank you.
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the license plate is on your screen. i want to get to alabama where 25-year-old carly nickel russell has been found alive and safe. after going missing on thursday. that is according to police in hoover, alabama. we want to get right to brussels ponce and who is on this for us. there is a lot of mystery here. if you could kind of unpack what we know, what happens to this young women, and also the mystery surrounding the toddler she claimed that she saw when she went missing. >> yeah, yasmin, a lot of mystery here. police actually just released an updated statement a few minutes ago, so i will try to take through this. they say that late last night, at around 10:45 local time, carly russell returned home, and that was when they got a 9-1-1 call from the residents saying that she had returned home on foot. at that point, police
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dispatched medics to go to the house, they checked her out and they ultimately transported her to a hospital for evaluation. the hospital tells us that she was released this morning. so at this point, she should be with her family, continuing that recovery. but there are still a lot of questions after more than two days of people searching in this wooded area off of the interstate going to gastrulations, rest stops hotels, searching, putting up flyers, trying to find her, and of course all of this started thursday night, carly was on her way home from work when she called 9-1-1 saying she saw a toddler on interstate four 95, she pulled over at that point, we know from the police and also the family that she was on the phone with a family member, that family member describes hearing her ask the child if they were okay, and then hearing her scream, hearing some shuffling, and then after that, just hearing traffic
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noise. we talked to carly's mother and father about this yesterday when she was still missing just those agonizing hours, and days of waiting for her and i want to play a bit of what they had to say and how they describe the situation. >> no matter how positive you try to stay, it is just so many thoughts of how terrified she may be. but she is a fighter. she is a fighter. and we believe that if there is any opportunity for her to make it home to us, she's going to seize that opportunity. >> and so they are certainly breathing a sigh of relief, grateful to have their youngest child back home, but as you mentioned, there are still a lot of questions, specifically about that toddler that she reported seeing on the interstate. police said that they have not received any other calls from anyone else about a missing child, no one else reporting seeing a child on the
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interstate, and a few other things i want to point out from this released a sent out. one, police saying that during the initial portion of the investigation, detectives were able to retrace nearly all of colleagues steps until the point when she went missing, and are confident that that will continue to be the case. so they appear to have a pretty clear timeline of where she was, and what happened up until that point, and they also emphasize that we have not been able to locate anyone with carli from the time that she had left work, until the 9-1-1 call was made. so appearing that she was alone. they are not saying if they are looking for a suspect, if they are still looking for leads, and exactly where this investigation goes from here. so still a lot of questions right now. but of course, a family and the community, grateful that she is safe, and alive, and back surrounded by people who love her. yasmin? >> yes. still a lot of investigating there. thank you. still ahead everybody, the gop led oversight committee plans to hold a hearing this week, and into the election meddling
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of the doj's investigation into hunter biden. but will the critical information they say could come out yet actually significant? i will ask congresswoman and committee member melanie about that, and much more coming after that. but one tennessee mom has had enough of the anti lgbtq agenda in her state making an impassioned speech against a proposal that went out transgender student. she joins me next. >> how do you propose taking away the one lifeline that it can might have with a trusted teacher. how dare you propose taking away the ability for a teacher to be that lifeline. shame on you. shame on you you were cashbacking you could earn on everything with just one card. chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the racking... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat? hold up - yeeerp? i can't talk right now, i'm at a silent retreat. cashback on everything you buy with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee.
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emotions boiled over at a wilson county tennessee school board meeting this week, with one mom taking aim at its members, slamming them for their treatment of lgbtq+ students, take a listen. >> your rhetoric is dangerous, your proposed policies are dangerous. we are not asking you all to understand or kids. we are asking, we are begging you, if you will not support our queer kids, leave them alone! [applause] >> shame on you. do better, all of you. >> joining me now is lindsey patrick white, thank you for joining us on this.
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we appreciate it. such an impassioned speech, fighting on behalf of your kid, which every mom can understand, i feel like. your child, puppy, that identify as lesbian. i want to refer folks to -- some of the comments that have been spewed at your child and i want to hear them to understand the context of what is going on. my parents say you're a pervert and if i beat you up they wouldn't care. you don't deserve to live. you should kill yourself. that is something that no six greater, no child should ever hear, no matter who they are. how they identify. what they do. were they at all moved by these comments, in hearing them from you, and what your child faces? >> if by they, you mean the school board, i think absolutely. the greater community as a whole has certainly been moved by it. and that has been one of the
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more heartening parts of finally getting up in front of the board and sharing our story. i have been able to connect with a lot of local families who are going through exactly what we are going through. but they don't have the ability to get up and talk about it. >> lindsey, you say and you make the case that these wearable assaults, this verbal abuse intensified around a school musical that pippy was in, in which pippy played faster and had to shave their head. how do you coach it through this? what do you say to them when they are dealing with this type of abuse? >> first i want to make it clear that they didn't have to shave their head. their theater teacher, mr. p, it's one of the teachers that made sure pippy had a very safe space for them. theater was their safe space. i want to make it clear, they didn't have to. they did choose to do it.
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because it is uncle fester. >> they want to be in character! >> exactly, exactly. but it did drop more attention to them. they were already dressing very nonbinary, and experimenting with their identity in the way that they presented themselves. so shaping their head really kind of put a bigger spotlight on them. and it made it -- made them a bit more easy for the bullies to identify in the hallways, and on the bus. >> so what do you say to pippy, how do you coach pippy through this? one of the things i feel like as a parent myself, as i worry about most, is self confidence. understanding what you are doing is okay, and who you are is okay no matter what. how do you make sure that pippy knows that? >> this is middle school. middle school is very difficult for every child, really.
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and it just happened to be a bit more difficult for a lot more difficult for those who identify as queer. so pippy, pippy is happy. pippy it is well-adjusted. pippy it's surrounded by people that lifts them up, and pippy has tons of gay on tease, and uncles, and trans family, and friends in their life. they know who they are, and who they are identifying as is absolutely okay. so they don't, they don't need to be reassured of that. and that is why i felt compelled to get up and speak, because pippy doesn't need that. they need a hug when they get home and they get told these horrible things, and maybe a special dinner, or you know, some self care, but there are so many kids out there that do not have that at home. but they might have it at school.
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they might have it with the teachers that understand them, and create a safe space for them. and that is precisely why pippy, i asked their consent before i share their story, pippy's dad, step mom, stepdad, i checked with everyone and i think it is time that we get up until this story, because pippy is not alone. and everyone agreed that we needed to tell their story so that hopefully we can get through to these people. >> you sound like an awesome mama, you've done some great things so far in defending your kid. and pippy sounds like an awesome kid as well. we are thankful that you did share their story. >> they are. >> lindsey, thank you. coming up everybody, republicans have been obsessed with hunter biden, even before the president took office. and now the gop led house is holding a hearing this week into alleged meddling in hunter's pioche a case. so is there any there there? congresswoman melanie stansbury joins us next to talk about that.
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use them if they are deployed against russian forces. nbc's kelly is live with us in kyiv with more. good to talk to you. this by the russian president's comments, human rights watch says moscow has already use cluster bombs, and so has ukraine as well. how seriously is kyiv taking this threat? >> we have not heard any direct response to the latest comments by the russian president. but ukraine has said in the past, look, we are just leveling the playing field, essentially, that the russians have used them quite a bit. ukraine has used them as well but not as much. and the bottom line is, ukrainians munitions and they need more firepower and the united states, president biden talked about that just over the past week or so in explaining why the u.s. is providing these cluster munitions. the national security adviser, jake sullivan, was asked about
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this again on meet the press today. asking whether the u.s. is going to manufacture more cluster bombs to replace the munitions that we are giving to ukraine. take a listen to what he said. >> our current plan is not to replenish that stockpile. we need a bridge from today when we need to ensure that ukraine has the necessary supply of ammunition to a few months down the road when we believe that we can supply enough of the round to meet ukraine's defense needs. >> and the pentagon is confirming that those munitions have now arrived in ukraine. they arrived a couple of days ago. they are not clear yet, yasmin, whether the ukrainians have used them in the battlefield, yasmin? >> all right kelly, thank you, appreciate it. strong reaction today, everybody, from lawmakers and the biden administration after the house passed the defense authorization bill that includes several republican backed amendments on issues like enforcing transgender health care, and diversity
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programs. >> what is real is the necessary capabilities, technologies, and fundamental social support for our troops and our families. that is what this all should have been focused on. not these domestic political -- >> it's important we don't politicizes bill at the end of the day and i feel very confident that we will have a bipartisan bill coming out. >> kevin mccarthy has seen that if he wants to load the stop with the extreme right wish list he will not be getting democratic votes, and i doubt he will be able to pass the conference version of the bill with just republicans. >> all right, the bill now goes to the democratically controlled senate where many of these amendments are likely to be stripped out. want to bring in a democratic representative from new mexico, melanie stansbury, she's also on the house oversight and accountability committees. thank you for joining us on this. appreciate it. you heard there, the likelihood, the possibility that these amendments are going to be stripped out of these bills once it hits the democratically controlled senate, what was
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your reaction to the passage of this thing? and how optimistic are you that senate democrats will be able to do this? >> first of all, thank you so much for having me on. i have to say that this week was quite shocking, you know, new mexico is a place that has a tradition of service. we have more active duty military and veterans and almost every state in the country per capita. we have a long tradition of supporting nda on a bipartisan basis. but over the last week, we watched as these hateful amendments got added. it included prohibitions on addressing women's health care and abortion. and our active duty service members. anti-trans and lgbtq measures. anti-diversity. and people of color measures. it is just absolutely shocking and also, a direct threat to our service members and families and likelihood's and to our national security. this is the latest apparently,
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battlefield in the culture wars of the gop but it is disgusting and shameful that they are using a historically bipartisan bill to do it. >> do you think that the senate democrats are going to be able to strip police amendments? >> i don't think the bill has a chance to pass without these amendments. i don't think the president, i don't think the senate democrats will support this bill, obviously the bill only passed with a very small margin, even in the house with several gop folks opposing the bill. so no, i don't think that it will pass with these amendments, but the fact that the republicans even took us to this point is really a sad state of affairs according to the gop and their extremists on everything, affecting every aspect of american life, including international security. >> congresswoman, i want to switch gears here and talk briefly about, if we can, the presidents son, hunter biden, and investigations are continuing into him, led mostly by republicans. on wednesday, you had two irs whistleblowers. they are expected to testify before the house oversight
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committee, which you sit on, about alleged meddling in the justice department investigation of hunter biden. it includes one unnamed investigator, who the committee says possesses quote, critical information related to the investigation. at the same time, you have a key informant in the investigations of the biden family, has now in fact been charged with acting as a foreign agent to china. are you concerned about how republicans are handling these probes? >> absolutely, i mean, first of all, the entire continued beating of this drum is obviously a distraction from all the things we should be working on, whether it is international security, fixing our economy, caring for communities. but the fact that the chairman of this committee is called somebody who has been charged with criminal charges, including, obviously, acting as a foreign agent of china, direct threats to our national security, and is literally on
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the run right now from law enforcement, really should be raising some questions. this is supposed to be the party of law and order and yet, they are doing everything in their power just so conspiracy theories, to bring those under criminal charges and indictments into our public body is an undermine our democratic processes and institutions in order to prop up their own presidential candidate who himself has been indicted on dozens and dozens of criminal charges including charges that threaten our national security. so i am concerned not only about how the gop is handling this investigation, but where they are headed as a party, and their efforts to undermine our democracy. >> representative melanie stansbury, thank you so much. all right, still ahead everybody, -- in miami, florida. we are gonna go there, coming up. comin up
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what a moment, 20 year carlos alcaraz from spain, beating novak djokovic and a nearly five hour, five-hour marathon match at wimbledon today. it was quite the match to be held. the fifth straight title handing the serbian his first loss at center court in a decade. alcaraz ranked first in the world as the third youngest wimbledon champ in the open era. this is his second major title after the u.s. open last year. and from tennis to soccer, 2022 world cup winner, lionel messi, who has been described by some as the greatest player of all-time is heading to miami. ♪ ♪ ♪ [speaking in a non-english language] >> the major league soccer club
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co owned by david beckham media official announcement on saturday that 36 year old messi's debut game is expected to be july 21st, joining me now with morris and bases -- outside of the stadium outside where he will be playing. i was just mentioning, of course, history in the making. lionel messi coming in playing in miami. how incredible will that be? by the way, how are they going to play in this heat? right? you've got fans i am sure are still wanting to flock to watch him play. but it is going to be a rough one. >> it is. there is no game today, it is official presentation for soccer fans, they are familiar with this, they don't watch a lot of soccer, they might not know that it is tradition for teams all across the world, especially in europe, when they have a big signing, they will ask the fans to come to the stadium. it will be the first time that the new signing, it will be messy today, will step on the field traditionally they pick
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up a soccer ball and they juggle the ball and those will be the first images of lionel messi with a soccer ball wearing that inter miami jersey. we did see that commercial that was released yesterday by the club where he was wearing that jersey. so you can hear the music just down the street from here, people that are very excited to see messi come here. he has a two-year deal. the reports that he's going to be making about 150 million, or up to 100 and $50 million. let's keep in mind, messi didn't come here for the money, jasmine, he already made enough money playing in europe. he was offered a lot more money to go to the middle east but he chose to come to miami, for many reasons, one of those is the deal with the argentinian national team that is established in the training center. they say the family wanted to be here and for various reasons, he wanted to be in miami. what does this mean for soccer in america? it is a new era. the last time we saw something this big was in the 70s --
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came to new york, and essentially revolutionized soccer. major league soccer, the u.s. soccer federation, they are all hoping that this recharges the lead, looking into the next world cup which will be the next united states. let's listen to one of the fans who is talking to us about messi coming to miami. >> bringing him here to america is a big deal. especially for soccer in america. i think it will grow a lot. i think it will be a huge thing because many players are going to start coming here and now that they see messi coming, i feel like they are going to bring more people. and that is going to bring more money, more growth. >> i think if anyone is wondering how big of a deal this is, it is said that soccer has more than three billion fans around the world, most of them will be paying attention to what happens here today.
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so for once, the united states, a powerhouse when it comes to sports, but not soccer, today we have the best player in the world and today the world will be watching what happens in miami, when lionel messi steps onto this field wearing that jersey, yasmin. >> all right, thank you, we will all be watching. after the break everybody, i just mentioned the heat obviously in miami, we know the heat has been very extreme. but at what point it's just too hot to handle? we will look at what the world's increasing temperatures are doing to our bodies coming up next. bodies coming up next. >> can i get you anything? >> water might be nice! >> i'll put these in a vase. >> thank you, take your time. our time
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temperatures in southern california, texas, nevada, they are setting all-time record. the city of el paso reaching a record 31 consecutive days in triple digits. he famously hot city of phoenix, setting its all-time record high. 108 degrees on saturday. it could equal, or even surpass out this afternoon. that is where we find nbc's marissa para, who is hopefully inside in some air conditioning, and not outside amidst all of this. marissa, talk to me, what does it feel like, and how are folks dealing with this? >> well yes, when i'll tell you this, being inside does not really do much good. if i am looking a little shiny, we will pretend it is highlighter and not the sweat. i'm telling you right now, there is no escaping this heat. we are not even out in the sun. it comes at you fast. we've only been out here for a few minutes. and for those who are also from humid places like myself, originally from florida, i'll tell you the difference. it feels like an oven. the worst part is, it can actually be kind of deceiving that is where it could get dangerous. we had a chance to go inside an
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e.r. yesterday, we saw hallways lined up with people on stretchers connected to ivs, many of them days, disoriented, confused by heat exhaustion. but the physicians were telling me that they have seen it get so much more serious. heatstroke being the most serious, they've also seen various forms of third degree burns. but there are two different worlds in terms of how you experience this heat. the people who say it is not so bad are the ones who have access to air conditioning, either a cool car, or the pool indoors. you will hear from people who are taking a visit to death valley in just a moment. that valley being one of the hottest places on earth, expected to get to 128 degrees today. that is just two degrees short of a world record. and you will hear from people who are taking a visit because they have their cool cars to run inside to, just because they want to see what it feels like, listen for yourself. >> it is predicted to be the hottest temperature, 131 degrees, and it is going -- the old record, at 134, is
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decertified. so now we are going to be here tomorrow for the permanent record. >> the heat, you could feel it dripping through the back, all the way down, right now i am going to take off these because i have pants on, it is burning, a burning sensation. >> breathing is the first thing that comes to mind. it is so hot, it's like -- you know, it gets dry really quick. >> so, i can echo everything that you heard just now, but on a more serious note, when we talk about the dangers, we are at the phoenix fire department. they told me how many cars they have been responding to. what i find really interesting is even the calls that are not specifically heat related, heat is always on the mind, when they show up to a call they have their ivs on ice pack, they have their ice packs in a cooler itself, and plenty of water ready to give up because the bottom line is even if someone fell down, or it is something totally unrelated, we are still in the heat. it is still a major factor, and
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you said it yourself, we are talking about 17 days consecutive of these temperatures. it is not expected to slow down anytime soon. we are expecting them to actually break the record for the inconsecutive stretch we have not seen in 50 years, yasmin. >> wow. thank you. it is important to note, by the way, just how dangerous, as merciless talking about, these extreme temperatures can be for those who are spending time outside. in fact, they may even be pushing the limits of what our bodies can actually safely handle, and that is what i want to get into with our next guest, kevin lens, it who is an assistant professor at ut health in houston. thank you for joining us on this, i appreciate it. so, there are studies now that suggests that when you have these incredibly high temperatures like we are seeing in arizona, days and days, consecutive days of these triple digit temperatures, death valley, near 130 degrees today, as well in california, it could affect the body's ability to function. talk us through that. >> that's right, yasmin.
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with our bodies, they are truly remarkable, we are able to maintain our internal core body temperature anywhere from around 97 and 99 degrees fahrenheit. yet when we are, exposed so these exceptionally high temperatures, they tend to outpace our internal cooling mechanisms, and lead to elevated core body temperature that could then lead to heat illness. this heat illnesses on the spectrum. on the less severe side of the spectrum, you have skin irritation, which we call he trash, which often presents itself in children. we also have muscle pains and spasms, or heat cramps. yet if our temperature internally keeps on increasing to about 101 to 103 degrees fahrenheit, that is when you see heat exhaustion. that is a heat illness that shows things such as dizziness, nausea, potentially vomiting, and maybe even losing consciousness. then, if that is left untreated, that is where you could get to that most serious version of heat illness, it is called heatstroke. that is a medical emergency.
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with heatstroke, you have similar symptoms to that of heat exhaustion, just with greater intensity. but you also have agitation and sometimes confusion. and then if this is left untreated, this could progress to ultimately death. also, those who have heatstroke, it can damage their internal organs. specifically their brain, their heart, their intestines, as well as our kidneys. ,,. >> and their long term effects, as you just talked about, a possibility of being on dialysis, their long term effects that could happen, because of exposure to this type of heat? >> right because if what has gone to that level of, heatstroke in terms of heat illness, then they may have their different vital organs have been compromised. that could lead to certain levels of failures, and then you may have to be attended to
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for the rest of time with certain attention, such as kidneys, where you may be on dialysis, and that is kind of an outside way of supporting your kidneys, which are no longer doing a good job, and removing waste, and also different fluids. so, it is really a harm that keeps showing itself, even after potential survival. there's also the mental health issues. so the trauma experience by being. part of such a traumatic episode. it can't be taken out quite easily. >> kevin, really quick, how do folks stay safe? >> well, that is a great question, i would say in order to be heat ready, i think that it is the understanding the signs and symptoms of heat illness, especially heat exhaustion, and making sure that somebody heatstroke. identifying safe, cooler places to escape the heat. then, thinking through the people around you. friends and foes, where are they, and do they have spaces
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to be comfortable, especially those who are at higher risk of illness. children, older adults, those with existing medical conditions, those with obesity, cardiovascular disease, and thinking about what does your community offer to protect you from these potential medical emergencies? >> kevin alonso, thank you so much, appreciate it. that wraps up for me, i am yasmin, i will be back in the chair next saturday and sunday at two pm eastern. simone starts right now. ght now.

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