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politicsnation. ten nights lead, the showdowns to come. culture or politics have consumed the republican party as we approach an election year. threatening the legislative agenda in congress in the house speaker kevin mccarthy's concessions to the hard right flank of his caucus have led to the passage of a military spending bill. bogged down with amendments targeting diversity programs and lgbtq protections. in the meantime, alabama senator tommy tuberville is holding up dozens of military appointments over the pentagon's abortion policies.

some colleagues are warning the blockade could endanger national security. against that backdrop, a potential government shutdown. the showdown looms and the first presidential caucus of 2024 is just six months away. delaware congresswoman lisa rochester joins me shortly to talk about all of it. plus, the phony war on critical race theory is still raging in state houses. and on school boards across the country one of the intellectual architects of the real crt joins me later in the show with her thoughts on the school bans and police violence targeting black women. all of that plus remembering christine king ferris members of the king family joined me tonight to talk about the passing of the last surviving

sibling of reverend dr. martin luther king junior. that and more tonight on politicsnation. . but first new developments this evening in the shooting that left for dead in hampton, georgia let's get right over to my colleague richard lui. >> rev we have been watching the story this afternoon here on msnbc. this is in hampton georgia it's about an hour south of downtown atlanta for individuals killed. two officers hurt according to the associated press during the encounter with the suspect that suspect again they believe the suspect may have been injured or killed law enforcement officers saying that they killed a man that was wanted in this weekend's killings for people near atlanta. about an hour outside. the sheriff's deputy in the police officer hurt during the attempt to take that suspect into custody there in hampton.

this is the suspect here. you see it on screen andre long more what the eyewitness accounts are rare of what happened today was the suspect got out of his house and then approached a car that was driving by it appeared to be the neighbor says another neighbor. and then began the shooting in potentially more than one location and that we don't know the details but what we're doing is we're waiting for a press briefing very soon we are watching a set of microphones again rev for killed in hampton georgia. it could be that the individual that police have killed is that suspect and again two officers are also injured in whatever that encounter you can see it right here. they begin. it's just about to begin comments. rev we will get back to you. if it starts will pop back in. >> richard, thank you keep us

abreast. joining me now is delaware congresswoman lisa blunt rochester. currently running to represent the state in the u.s. senate. congresswoman thank you for joining us we have an approaching election year i don't have to tell you if. we will get more into it with your own senate run. before we get to that, hard right members of both chambers of congress have instigated an ongoing legislative fight in congress over our military. often interjected with racial issues, lgbtq rights and other cultural wars and issues. these fights have up ended even routine legislative, like our annual defense bill, staffing our military ranks. the disruption stemming from

republican amendments to the defense bill may add to another inspected round of around a possible government shutdown in october. our first presidential nominated contest, the gop caucus is in january. on mlk day, ironically enough, how do democrats deliver anything else for voters in this environment with just six months before the first contest of 2024? >> first of all reverend, thank you so much for having, me it's good to see you again. these issues are serious, you know i want to stick to take a step back and think about the fact that donald trump unleashed things that we knew were dormant. now what we are seeing is a race to the right on all of these issues. and while we talk a lot about culture wars these, days i wish we would just call a thing nothing. what it is it's an attack on

women when we roll back the clock for our bodily autonomy it is at an attack on trans kids. it's an attack on our military at this point. affirmative action and diversity. and even in the house we saw language from one of the other members that let us know why there is a need for more training for diversity and for affirmative action. so, to me, as democrats i think what's really important in this moment is that we don't let up our fight for our fundamental freedoms. at the same time we continue to do the work and push for things like a stronger economy. that's why no we're going to talk about president biden and the fund raising numbers that came out there. representative of the fact that people see who is avoiding issues and trying to distract. who is really trying to do the work of making sure the american people have what they need to be able not just

survive but thrive. that's what the new numbers have come out to show for the presidents campaign. >> congresswoman, you are the only house member from delaware. with your official senate campaign announcement last month, you have been cast of the favorite to succeed retiring senator tom couple who has pledged along with senate majority leader chuck schumer to support your candidacy. it seems that you have a lot going for u.s. campaigns to become the woman and of course the first black senator. what does delaware need right now from its representation? >> well, i think first of all i have to say how proud i have been to serve delaware. getting elected in 2016, i had never run from anything in my life and i had just been widowed? i was over 50. i did not have the money.

people need for these kinds of campaigns. delawareans showed up and showed out. i really ran on the issues that i heard from them. the desire to make sure we had a strong economy. i worked on supply chains and strengthening those and workforce development because i was secretary of labor in delaware. i also work on things like clean air and clean drinking water. these are basic and foundational. that is important to a states like delaware which climate change really impacts us every single day and then just lowering the cost of prescription drugs for seniors i was able to get legislation into the inflation reduction act, particularly for lower income seniors. to me, i want to do all those things. that's what delaware talk to me about. i also think in the senate, it provides an opportunity to really dig deeper into these issues. to be one of 100. to represent strongly and also to deal with what i was talking

about the fundamental rights like voting rights like making sure that we have protections for reproductive rights. to me that would be a great opportunity. our theme, you might know reverend al it is hope it came from the church that my grandmother attended for 70 years. our goal is to there's so much darkness. every single one of us needs to bring not just hope but some hope to not just the campaign but also to the senate and there are no black women in the senate right now either. that's not lost on me. >> bright hope, that will preach on a sunday evening. you talk about black women only two black women have ever been elected to the senate a black woman has not served since camila harris our vice president took office as vice president nearly four years ago. you are one of several black women seeking elections in the

u.s. senate in 2024. the democratic congresswoman barbara lee is also running. seeking to replace retiring california senator diane feinstein. in maryland, prince george's county executive angela is also running to replace retiring senator carter. and all three instances you have a black woman running at or near the top of the pack for open senate seats in blue states made possible by high-profile retirements. do you feel like the democratic party is effectively seizing this opportunity for potentially historic levels of representation? that would be sensitive to delivering for their constituents. >> you, know i think that, well, first of all the idea, i've read this in an article. the first black woman, carol moseley-braun could be in the chambers. when the second black women

elected to the senate. vice president kamala harris delivers the oath of office, possibly to the third and fourth and fifth, that, that right there is historic and just, it's really representative of this moment. why the last part of this interview where we were talking about those attacks on women those attacks on affirmative action we've got to be in all these spaces. whether it's on the school board whether it's in the senate, we've got to be in these places. for a black women in particular we know that we have been the backbone of the democratic party bringing all these qualifications all these lived experiences to these races means that we make better legislation it means that we govern better as a state and as a country and for the world and i'm very excited about the potential but i want to make sure that people don't take delaware for granted as a blue state. we are only three counties as you know, blue, purple, red and

we don't take anything for granted. we work hard for every single vote. i represent the entire state. i am at large. so it's really important that all of us recognize that none of these races are safe races. we can't take anything for. granted we work hard for every single vote. because it matters president biden's reelection campaign revealed friday at some 394,000 donors contributed to him on the democratic national committee during the second quarter of this year. adding $72 million to the presidents campaign war chest outpacing the by -- leaving republican presidential candidates some concerns have been raised about the presidents ability to generate small dollar donations. biden has been described as an intention airy lean campaign thus far. what are your thoughts on race

at this point? >> first of all i gotta say how excited i am that we had that kind of outpouring of grassroots support think about it president biden out raised trump double to the one he outrace desantis 3 to 1 and the average it's interesting, when you look deeper at who gave 100 30% of these people are new givers to the campaign and then you add on top of that the average person and the average for suppression or teachers they are nurses and they are retirees and then the average giving is about 97% i'm not mistaken. it was around $39. what this shows me is that a number one while the goes meant one thing it's the grassroots support and what people do at the voting polls.

so, it shows that it's starting to see all this president and vice president have done. in less than two years. they've done more than some presidents do in eight. so we are very proud of that. we are not taking any vote for granted. >> all, right thank you congresswoman lisa blunt rochester for being with us. let's turn to my political panel to discuss the winners and losers of the second fundraising quarter with less than six months out from the first presidential caucus in iowa. joining me is jennifer horn, cofounder of the lincoln project. maya rakim more cummings, democratic strategist. jennifer, let's start with the big campaign shakeup for ron desantis. shedding roughly a dozen people from the staff, despite bringing in $21 million during the first six weeks of this candidacy.

now, this comes as new campaign finance numbers indicate flashing warning signs for desantis whose major donors have maxed out and small donations have been a struggle for trump's gop challenges. we've seen political comebacks in recent history from then john mccain in 2008 and joe biden and 2020. whose campaigns seemed in danger of collapsing. is too early to can't desantis out in your opinion? >> oh, yes, it's too early to count desantis out. those two examples are exactly why. especially in the early stages. candidates often come from behind in the final stretch as a primary gets closer and closer. however, at the same time, what we see happening with ronda sentences campaign is not a good trend.

he is not a trending in the right direction. he hasn't just said a number of folks from his campaign, the people you talked about, his polling numbers are going down as well. in those early states. where he needs to be positioned to be able not just to hold the second place spot that he's in, he really needs to be creeping closer and closer to trump who has an extraordinarily over all of the gop candidates and what we have to remember reverend, al these fundraising numbers, the conversation about them is really an insiders game. as much as we know strategically how it's going to be impacted, the potential going forward, primary voters who are still thinking with their hearts. and they're going with the candidates that move them. so, as much as we all want to talk about the numbers, that impacts the ability of the candidates to connect with the voters. we have to remember that voters

are listening to us talk about the. numbers they're looking for something else altogether. those republican voters want to hear about things like some of these very extreme issues. whether it is book banning, or lgbtq rights or rolling back women's rights to autonomy over their own bodies. >> these issues, but me stick with you one moment, aside from trump and desantis, tim scott raise the most from direct campaign contributions nearly $6 million in the second quarter. meanwhile, wealthy donors are considering backing scott as a more traditional republican alternative to donald trump and ron desantis. scott still faces an uphill climb in front. what are his chances of becoming a viable candidate, jennifer? ifer >> he has a good chance of becoming a viable third place

candidate. if you look at the fundraising from all the candidates in that, group in that lane that he isn't, he did very well. they haven't been getting any real traction. she's done okay, comparatively okay with fundraising she has been in the ranks a lot longer than tim scott. she's just not getting the traction that she needed. >> the other person to look, that even though the fundraising is very, low it's chris christie, he has a chance of climbing up into that third place. he's gotten a lot of endurable vigil donors. he has been in that race for the least amount of time of all of them and so tim scott is well positioned and i've said this before if he was in this race in 2015 i think the gop would love him. they be head over heels for him but right now he and haley and kristie and swami they are all fighting for third place. >> maya, let's bring you in president biden and the democrats raced $72 million during the second quarter.

by comparison, former president trump and the rnc and trump's join fundraising committee raised a combined $108 million during the same timeframe in 2019 and former president barack obama the dnc raised $86 million at this point in 2011. what is your take on whether we should feel good or nervous about biden's fund raising haul? >> it's always good to be on with. you thank you for having. may i think we shouldn't be worried about biden. he is doing just fine. $72 million is a decent intake. the fact of the matter is that we should not compare biden to either obama or to trump. you know, as you well know trump played to the new cycle every day. in contrast, what biden is doing is actually governing and that's reassuring to people. he has a steady hand on the ship he's feeling quite

comfortable right now even though people are worried about what's going to happen with the republican primary. we should not compare biden to obama. it's the early days of online fundraising they were giving left and right we now have a jaded and overwhelmed constituency of on line people who are ignoring emails and other things that are intended to raise funds the larger political environment is going to have to shake up as the race goes forward. it becomes clear who the republican nominee is going to be. biden is going to be just fine. the early numbers are solid. they are strong. they are representative that the strength he brings to the campaign. >> senate democrats are preparing to protect their narrow majority in the upper

chamber of the 34th senate seat. for reelection in 2024. 23 of them are being defended by democrats. on the show this weekend we had two black senate candidates vying to represent their states. hill harper in michigan and lisa blunt rochester of delaware who we had just moments ago on this show. among the many races, one that's being closely watched is in arizona where independent senator kirsten sinema is being out raised by her democratic challenger who -- and for the second consecutive quarter. what's your take on arizona race and the fundraising there? how is the senate match shaping up for democrats overall? >> i think that everyone is tiptoeing around cinema.

as you well, know she along with joe manchin formed a swing caucus in the senate. they basically on several occasions, they basically blocked the biden agenda. certainly the aspirations of the democrats. because there was a lot of outrage about her leadership, she decided on her own to become an independent that being said, they are out raising her for the last two consecutive quarters. he has out raised her i think what the democratic party leaders are doing, they are asking christina sinema to look at the fund raising numbers as evidence of the strength of her campaign. she has been relatively quiet. quiet as a church mouse when it comes to what her intentions are but i certainly think it speaks volumes louder than words could say that gallego has such strength in terms of his fundraising numbers. >> you're right i would never

forget sentiment and manchin for the john loosen voting bill and the george floyd bill with the problems we had with the senate. jennifer horn and maya rakim or cummings thank you both for being with us. let's check in with my colleague richard lui for more of today's top news stories. >> rev, we're going to get you the update out of hampton georgia the breaking news story. a desperate man hunt in georgia has just ended law enforcement saying they shot and killed 40-year-old andre longhorn today that was a suspect he's accused of killing four people at separate crime scenes on saturday they were close to each other in terms of those actual site locations law enforcement says two officers were injured during the shoot out with long more one was taken to the hospital police have not released a motive. that's in the msnbc. flash flooding in north philadelphia left at least five people dead. at least four others unaccounted for after

torrential rainfall. this includes a nine month old boy and his two-year-old sister. now missing alabama woman was found alive and safe and she vanished thursday after phony 9-1-1 to report a child on the side of a highway police say 25-year-old carly russell returned to her home late last night and they're working to retrace her steps more politicsnation with reverend al sharpton right after this break. >>

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the los angeles times has reported that the fbi is now investigating this confrontation from last month, caught on tape, to serve deputies are seen roughing up a woman and a man, who are black, after an alleged theft at a grocery store. one officer seen violently slamming the woman to the ground. and pepper spraying her, the two deputies involved were reassigned from feel duty, and the sheriff's department called the videos, quote, disturbing. >> joining me now is kimberly

crenshaw, she is a columbia law and ucla law professor, and is the author of the book say her name. thank you for joining me again, on the show today, kimberly. let's go right to this, the investigation into this incident was only launched after a bystander jack footage and it went viral, which then prompted the l.a. county sheriff's office to release body camera footage to the public. i wonder how many other altercations similar to this have happened without bystanders? we certainly get a lot of calls at the national action network, you wrote your book about the stories of black women who have been victims to state violence and police brutality. what is your reaction to the story? >> well, reverend, always a pleasure to be here.

of course the number of events like this that go on march, that we know nothing about, is countless. while we wrote this book, we thought it was absolutely important for the public to understand. that black women and girls are also victims of anti black police violence, black women and girls as young as seven, as old as 93, have been killed by the police. black women and girls are more likely, reverend, than any other group of women to be killed by the police. and yet we don't know anything about it. we have the african american policy forum call this the double loss. first that their lives are stolen, and then the fact that their lives are stolen is basically made invisible. so we don't know stories like friend garrett, whose daughter, michelle soul was killed on a

mental health pick up call. just five days after mike brown was killed, there was no protest, there is no media, until she decided to take her coffin to the city hall, to demand that the world recognize that someone killed her daughter. we don't know about amy a caper, who was killed trying to protect her infant son in a hail of police bullets fired by the pool in virginia police department, who were trailing her and others, her child's father, so we thought it was absolutely important to know these stories in order to know that the scope of anti black police violence, if you don't know the scope of it, you can't transform it. and that is what the book intends to do. >> and i think the book is important, and i am so glad you brought, it because a lot of people don't understand that the cases we take and national action network of other support groups are the ones that we

publicized. that we can't handle the cases, people say, oh, they always out for publicity, that is what families want, but look at the families that never get the publicity. and therefore not justice. so this pope is important. the new book explores the relationship, though, teen systemic racism and institution allies disagree. can you elaborate on what your research is found regardless -- these two systems of oppression. >> well, you know, reverent, this book, although it was started long before efforts to push back on precisely those kinds of structural inequality, misogynoir. it is an illustration of what that is all about. and why these ideas are important. and importantly, for the stakeholders in this? >> so if you are black, and you give your sons the top, you understand that as black people

the food -- is just different then the risk that people face, that is crt, that is critical race theory. intersectionality ads on top of that. by the way, when you give your sons the top, you also need to be giving your daughters the top, because all of us are at risk of police violence when we are disproportionately stopped by the police, and subject to disproportionate violence. that is what that video was all about. that is what this book is trying to allow people to see. in order to better transform the situation that we find ourselves in. >> now you also argue in your book that police brutality persists because the lives of black people, specifically black women, our devalued by societal indifference. what do you think that is? and what can be done about it?

>> well, you know, i am hoping that when people read about some of these stories, and they understand what happened to tunisia anderson, whose family called 9-1-1 because she was having a mental health crisis, she ended up being killed by the police in a takedown move that was not unlike george floyd. i am hoping people will ask themselves, well why don't we know the stories? and what is it that we have to do in our movements, what is it that we have to demand from our politicians, what is it that we have to insist that we are able to learn about from the media. what is it that keeps us from knowing these stories? and our belief is that when people actually see the circumstances under which black women lose their lives, and the impact on their family, they will come to the conclusion that this can only happen within impunity to people that people don't care about. they will renew their demand for a fully inclusive movement

against anti black police violence. because it includes people across gender who lose their lives to this particular kind of unaccountable violence. >> now finally, let's talk about critical race theory. it is a subject you know well. and it's form as an advanced academic discipline,. but republicans across the country are passing laws to ban it from elementary schools and high schools. when what they are really talking about is limiting all discussions of race at those levels. legislation restricting teaching critical race theory has already been passed in 18 states, the issue is sure to come up again in 2024 race, even with republicans talk black candidate for president speaking out against it. what are your thoughts on how this topics being discussed in our politics?

>> well, reverend, all i think our listeners will be shocked to find out that nearly half of all american schoolchildren now go to schools in which there are laws on the books called anti divisive conduct laws. these are the anti woke laws. they prohibit plea for teaching of americas racial history. and what they are prohibiting is acknowledgment of white supremacy's history, its current manifestations, it is prohibiting equity based storytelling, look, ruby bridges can be taught some florida schools. rosa parks, there is efforts to added the story of the montgomery bus, to take out all mention of white supremacy. so we are all about that work of trying to tell people what it's really about, that this is taking away our tools to understand our lives in order to transform them. >> and for others to understand

our lives, because part of my argument, and i know i am on the top but i have to say, this is the reason why a lot of people don't understand why an affirmative action was necessary. and if necessary. if you don't know the history, you don't know that it was by law that blacks were deprived of education opportunities. that economic opportunities, jobs, so you are trying to make up with the government and lost it. without that history, people just think we were genetically inferior. and we have got to resist that. kimberly crenshaw, thank you, always glad to have you on with us, we will be right back. oh my god, here it is. when i found that immigration record on ancestry®, it was amazing. everything was there. the u.s. was in dire need of nurses during world war ii. tía amalia as a nurse in el salvador decided to answer that call. it's a lot of excitement finding something new. i feel like a time traveler.

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3... -are we saying there's a chance... 2... -we destroy the world? 1... welcome back to politicsnation, i was scheduled mid-atlantic might join others, and i was to get one of the tributes to christian king faris, and i have imposed on some members of the king family to join us to do this on our since because of weather and airport delays, i could not get there. joining me now is global human rights activist martin luther king the third, and of course the president of the -- andrea waters king. let me go to you, rod. this is your aunt, it was the only surviving sibling of your father, martha king junior.

what does christine faris mean to our country, as you and our -- but your lives out there to really continue the fight for civil and human rights that your father embodied. but his sister was part of that struggle. >> well, you know,, it resonates in the name of her book, which is through it all, and what that in such means, she lost her brother to an assassin's bullet, she lost another brother mysteriously drowning. she lost her mother to innocence bullet. she lost her husband, he would even before her. and yet through all of, this through it all, she continued to play her trumpet. she was a vice president and a treasure at the king center. cofounding with my mom and many others, the king center, and so this in one sense is an area that is closed. but there are new opportunities,

because they are always generations coming. >> andrea, you had the -- martins chairman, along with me and national action network, they have called for this march on august 26, in washington, with some 80 partners of different races, and i have always talked about how you just seem to have the spirit of mrs. king. and the women in the king family way before you married martin. we talk about that off air. you are inactive listener and a leader in her own right. do you see this march as one of the tributes to the kings have left us? but wants to continue, electricity, tell us why this march embodies that whole family commitment. >> well, as providence would have, it on the day that she went home to be with god, it was the day that the supreme court struck down affirmative

action, so on a very real sense, on that day the mountaintop got a lot steeper for too many of us. there were rocks thrown in our path. and so in a very real sense i see it as a moral obligation in time for us to come together, even now more than ever to make real the dream of martin luther king junior, and caretta scott king, and christine king faris. a very real sense of the torch truly has been passed to a new generation. and now it is time for each one of us to take our place, to continue the drumbeat of peace, justice, and equity. >> we will be doing that and i'm excited that i'm gonna have you back on several times, i want both of you to build up for this march. a march across all times. because we are all victims of hate crimes and of government denial. but i wanted especially to do this on the night that we funeral eyes the last sibling of dr. king.

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represented many in the civil rights movement and social justice movement that never were out front, but we're just as important, and just as committed, and took just as much risk as those that became household names. she was more than just doctor king's sister, she was one that was engaged in the struggle. and all struggles lead people that will do the work, whether they give the glory or not.

or whether they step back and let others get the glory. because they also know the risk involved. in that kind of attention in the limelight, that is among the things i would have said had i made it to the memorial. but i am glad that she lived to see some of the things that she and her brother and others fought for. come to being, this picture is her sitting at ebenezer baptist church, a church her father and brother passed in. the night brought alarm was elected president of the united states, and i sat there with her as she wept, and that on the other side of her was the pastor of the church who is still is a pastor, he is also a u.s. senator now, raphael warnock. to see the fight continue, we will not stop, we cannot let them take back the rights that the kings, the ferris, is another spot for. we cannot just remember them. we must remain vigilant to

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