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over the death of 22-year-old masa amean. what the crackdown means for iranian women. and sag-aftra, picketing in cities. the warning if that strike continues. we're hearing from the heroic couple whose dog tipped them off on the whereabouts of an escaped murder suspect. the case cracking k-9 helping police end the multistate man hunt. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. let's start with nbc's george solis at the erie county prison where that inmate is being held. george, you talked to the couple that helped end this man hunt, what did they tell you? >> reporter: they are completely flabbergasted that this unfolded in their backyard.
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their dog starts barking in the distance. they investigate what's going on. who do they confront, the escaped inmate hanging out in the creek. they ask him, what are you doing here. he says i'm camping. they don't buy it for a second. they call 911, and a large police presence descends on the neighborhood here as they have been for the last week or so. this case-cracking k-9 making this all possible. my conversation with them really something insightful. listen. >> reporter: so he definitely did bark at the inmate? >> he wouldn't stop. he kept barking, barking, barking, like this isn't right. >> reporter: what is it when you come face to face with the person everybody is looking for. >> oh, my. >> i was scared. >> we were both scared. our immediate thought was call 911, get them here, get him back where he belongs. >> reporter: i don't know if you can call them more than a good boy, but that is the definition, and we know that he is now actually getting a $2,000 check
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from crime stoppers for helping check michael burrham, here at the erie county prison, undergoing a psychiatric evaluation. not a lot in his cell, a pair of sandals, and no bed sheets, which is what he used to escape the warren county jail. in multiple cities across the u.s. today, it's back to the picket line for members of the actor's union. lindsey reiser is live in new york. what are you hearing from the actors out there today? >> they were on strike today right here outside of 30 rock from 9:00 to 1:00. they will be out again tomorrow, and these are the sticking points here, negotiations with the studios. they say they want a livable wage. they want to address residuals, which they say have dwindled with the advent of streaming. their image and likeness will be used in perpetuity without permission.
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both sides are far apart on the issues. the actors came out today to make their voices heard. they will do it as long as they need to. i talked to the broadway star, lin na powell, star of "a beautiful noise," she told me six months ago she lost her health insurance because she wasn't making enough money. this is what else she told me. >> we're no longer getting residuals we used to get. 80% of our members are not making the health insurance minimum to get covered for health insurance, and the money that's concentrated at the top is not just trickling down to the bottom. it's not trickling down to the middle anymore. >> reporter: i also want to point you do barry diller, a former studio head, and he was on face the nation this weekend. he said if he was in charge of the negotiations, he would set a september deadline. he would have studio execs give up 25% of their way so both
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sides could get closer to what they're looking for. >> this actually will have devastating effects if it is not settled soon, and the problem with settlement in this case is there's no trust between the parties. these conditions will potentially produce an absolute collapse of an entire industry. >> reporter: so right now, chris, there's no schedule for negotiations. so it's unclear exactly how long this is going to go. we know we have already seen productions halted, we're seeing premieres being affected. a huge ripple effect. >> thank you for that. a crackdown by iran's infamous morality police. it seemed like after the death of mahsa amini and the protests that happened, this might have gone away. not the case, right?
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>> reporter: that's not the case unfortunately, chris, much hated, much loathed morality police are back on the streets following about a ten-month absence after the death of mahsa amini, that 22-year-old girl arrested by the morality police and died in their custody, sparking those massive deadly protests. while those protests were going on, chris, the morality police disappeared, simply because no women on the streets were wearing the head scarf. some were burning them, if you remember. once they had crushed the protests through brute force, they still didn't appear on the streets. they tried to enforce it through video cameras, remotely fining women, making them lose access to their bank accounts or social media or their telephones. the women still refused to wear the head scarves, and now the authorities feel they need the physical presence of the morality police on the streets to force women and girls to do
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what they don't want to do. wear a head scarf, and you can already feel the renewed tensions in the country, while i'm talking to people there. and one of the big differences, chris, is that before the process, the morality police were on the streets, making women wear their head scarves properly, complain they were showing too much hair or the head scarf was too far back. now they're facing a different scenario, the women on the street is not wearing the head scarf, it's not the point of police tell them to adjust it, they now have to tell them to put one on. many women are not taking it out with them. it's very difficult, so many women flatout refuse to wear the head scarf and so right now, you see small tensions on the street, you know, people trying to round up women. people screaming, trying to stop them. they're also trying to humiliate people through punishment.
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one actress was sent to psychological classes because she went to a funeral and didn't wear a head scarf. they say she had a personality disorder. another woman was forced to go to the morgue for a week, and wash dead bodies because she refused to wear a head scarf. a theater actor went on social media telling people to resist the police, fight the police and while he was doing that, police raided his home, and he live blogged the raid. this is a whole new tension of the police and authorities in iran are bringing up, opening up, you know, really really sore wounds that have nowhere near healed since those protests, and sure, again, we're going to have big tensions in iran if they keep pushing the envelope and forcing women to wear the head scarf who really really are just
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refused to do it now. i see pictures around teheran, and so many women do not have a head scarf on, and that wouldn't have existed before those protests. it's unpredictable what's going to happen now. both sides are miles apart from one another. >> such disturbing reporting. ali arouzi, thank you for that. it's not just the u.s. suffering through a brutal heat wave. parts of europe are seeing the hottest temperatures ever recorded in that part of the world. they could break an all time record. this is the height of the tourist season where people are outdoors. places like the coliseum are waiting in lines to get to places like the vatican museum. i know there's concern about tourists getting overheated. what are you seeing? what are you hearing? >> reporter: absolutely, it's 90 degrees, and still, as you can see behind me.
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people are out in droves, but i can assure you that throughout the afternoon and up to an hour ago, this square and the rest of the city was almost empty. the only people i could see were tourists because the italians have long left the city of rome, as well as the other 15 cities on red heat alerts to go to the mountains and to the sea, wherever they can find some respite from this heat wave, and they have been trying, and cooling down. some of them, as you can see right now, the water fountains around the city, filling up water bottles, and put water on their neck or their head. some may want to jump in the big fountain over there, even though that is illegal. if tourists thought it wasn't that bad, today it was about 102 degrees fahrenheit, should be careful tomorrow because tomorrow, as you mentioned, in
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the next 48 hours, we may see temperatures going up to 118, 120. it's going to be the hottest day of the year and may even break the records for the hottest day every recorded in europe. which was recorded here in italy two years ago. there was 119.8 fahrenheit, chris. >> claudio lavanga get cool. thank you so much for the reporting. donald trump and his indecision over the next gop debate. will he join, and would he ever consider his rivals as potential running mates. the answer in 60 seconds. running mates. the answer in 60 seconds with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv power e*trade's easy-to-use tools, like dynamic charting and risk-reward analysis
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and a lot of other people didn't do it. when you have a big lead, you don't do it. why do you have someone at zero. >> you don't show up, ron desantis has a good night and cuts into your lead. >> or somebody else has a good night and cuts into his lead. >> let's bring in nbc news senior national politics reporter, jonathan allen. susan del percio, republican strategist. chris christie has predicted donald trump's ego won't let him skip this debate. what are you hearing? what's the sense of how all of this is going to end up? >> still the door is technically open to him participating. he explained his thinking. he doesn't think there's much advantage with the big lead that he has getting on the stage with ron desantis, and the other candidates and basically elevating them to even playing with him. i think there are going to be things considered that are
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nonconventional in terms of ways for trump to counter program, do something other than the debate. we remember in one of the earlier cycles in 2016, he skipped the debate and held a fundraiser that he said was going to go to veterans causes. this is not somebody who has ever had difficulty getting attention for himself or competing with the attention other people are getting, and we'll have to see what he actually does, but, you know, he's saying right now, and it makes sense that he's not being forced into a position where he has to debate. >> so susan, he won't commit, but he did reveal that he would consider his challengers as potential running mates. let me play that. >> is there anyone on that stge that you see as potential running mates, as vp? >> you have some good people on this stage. you have some very talented people. i've been impressed with by some of them. some of them i'm very friendly with, actually. a number of them called me up, not to ask for permission, but
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sort of ask for permission saying they would like to do it. a number of people up there, i'm not going to embarrass them by saying who. i think you have good people. i think you have good potential cabinet members too. >> i wonder who he's talking about? >> i believe it's nikki haley. she reached out to him saying she was interested in running. >> i wonder how he'll feel after the first debate, if the candidates differentiate themselves from donald trump, what will they say, and how will that affect donald trump. who would be willing to go into a donald trump administration, that's a frightening thought, and one more thing on that, just going back to the debate. what's interesting about donald trump, if he's running as an incumbent, like joe biden is not debating. donald trump thinks he doesn't have to debate others, and he
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thinks he should have the party loyalty. >> and he's got the numbers in the polls, that's for sure. >> on the issue of running mates, desantis indicated kim reynolds as a popular vp pick. not too hard to figure out the strategy there. >> absolutely not, chris. ron desantis needs iowa. he certainly needs to perform well there, probably needs to win iowa. he's getting himself as close to the governor of iowa as he can. she's extraordinarily popular in the state. he's compared her record in florida and iowa in terms of, you know, winning as conservative candidates and pushing a conservative agenda. to the point that it has angered donald trump to see this governor who is proclaiming neutrality. all that said, it's very early for anybody to be thinking about vice presidential candidates, particularly a candidate like
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desantis who's about 20% in the poll. >> 30, 40 points behind, whatever it is, susan, and a little premature. we're starting to hear a few things on the debate stage as some of these other candidates elevate themselves. that's what the debate is an opportunity to do. trump campaign on draining the swamp, but now his record on that issue has become a question, and it's being challenged, let's listen. >> i know people now better than anybody who has known the people. the good ones, bad ones, dumb ones, smart ones. >> you didn't drain the swamp. >> i did. i fired comey and a lot of people. a lot of the people i had, i fired. i fired comey very early. >> he promised to drain the swamp. it got worse. he did not drain the swamp. he promised to have mexico build the border wall. he said he was going to eliminate the national debt.
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they added almost $8 trillion to the debt in four years. >> i mean, first of all, that's the first time i've ever heard, i think, donald trump admit he might have chosen not so well. having said that, given that so many trump supporters believe, truly believe and will tell you when you talk to him that he was the greatest president ever is that a line of attack that will work or desantis or anybody else that he didn't drain the swamp? >> not that much. but it is worth noting that everyone that donald trump fired, he hired, including comey. he doesn't have a very good record of being an executive. i thought the point desantis made was a good point of attack. when you can point to something specific and say that didn't happen, i believe that can get through, again, to people who are open to someone other than trump. >> or who are open to the idea that the wall didn't get built,
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right? >> right. . >> susan del percio, great to see you. jonathan allen, great to see you as well. joe manchin's trip to new hampshire, what it could mean for president biden and the future of the senate. and now data showing the president struggling to get key small donors to rally behind him. the impact is next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. watching reports" only on msnbc ♪ things are looking up ♪ ♪ i've got symptom relief ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements at 4 weeks. skyrizi is the first and only il-23 inhibitor for crohn's that can deliver both clinical remission and endoscopic improvement. the majority of people on skyrizi achieved long lasting remission at 1 year. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections
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he's known in the senate for being a democratic wild card, going rogue on more than one occasion. now, joe manchin has nerves jangling and rumors flying about a possible third-party run. we just got images of the senator working a crowd in new hampshire. tonight, manchin will participate in a no labels town hall in new hampshire, appearing alongside republican john huntsman, and they're not the only ones making biden supporters nervous. nbc's vaughn hillyard is in manchester, new hampshire, for us. talk about this no labels event tonight. what are they saying about it, what are democrats thinking about it? >> right. chris, let's just start off with the basic fact that no labels is an organization that has been around for 13 years, but they have never done what they are looking to do right now, and that is build a $70 million effort to put a presidential ticket on the ballot in 2024.
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they say this is in the situation in which donald trump and joe biden are their respective party's nominees, that they will offer americans a bipartisan ticket, one with a republican and a democrat, and joe manchin, we should be clear has not ruled out joining that potential ticket, and who is he alongside today? he's alongside no labels, talking to voters. you see the images here. this is a man who has not ruled out challenging his own party's leader, joe biden. this is notable because when you look at nbc's own polling, 44% of america's voters would be open to a third-party run. take a listen to a few of the voters we talked to today. would you be content if it's joe biden versus donald trump? >> absolutely not. >> would you be open to a third party candidate? >> we need someone in the middle. the issue is one extremist versus another extremist and no one is going to agree if we keep picking the extremes, and they both think the other party is
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evil, third party is the only option really. >> if the choices were donald trump and joe biden, how would you feel? >> no, i need somebody else. >> reporter: that is not biden or trump? >> right. >> reporter: so you would be open to a third party? >> i would. >> reporter: you could vote for joe manchin over joe biden? >> definitely. definitely. definitely. of course, chris, the concern from national democrats is they harken back to the year of 2000. al gore's narrow loss and many blamed ralph nader, the third-party candidate then, and in 2016, jill stein and gary johnson, took about 6% of the national electorate in a race that came down to very narrow margins that could have potentially been the difference for hillary clinton and the concern this go around, if joe manchin were to get in the race would more moderate democrats peel away from joe biden and spoil the election, and hand donald trump the white house again, chris? >> vaughn hillyard, thank you,
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we'll be looking for your reporting tomorrow after the event tonight. the biden campaign has more than just third party and outside threats to worry about. according to "the new york times," quote, the small dollar online money spigot that helped mr. biden smash fundraising efforts has not yet turned on and there are ample signs that it may be months before it does. joining me now is the times reporter behind that story, reed epstein. good to see you. how did democrats or the biden campaign explain the lack of small donor energy? >> it depends on who you talk to, chris. everybody in the campaign seems to understand that they believe that small donor energy will come later in the campaign, once there is a republican nominee, and there's a choice set up between president biden and donald trump or one of his rivals for that nomination. but what we've seen over the last several months is a broad
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slowdown across both parties in online fundraising. it's much harder now to raise money from donors, particularly progressive donors than it was in 2020 or 2022. tech companies made it more difficult. i heard from a lot of people in reporting the story last week that joe biden is not the kind of presidential nominee or president who is, you know, he's not an insurgent candidate. he's not someone who has college students putting posters on the wall. as one in past campaigns told me. that makes it harder for his campaign to get to some of these people who are going to give, 10, 15, $25 at a time online. >> you're right, the president's finance report shows he's far more dependent on the wealthiest donors than mr. biden was, mr. trump was in his reelection bid, and mr. biden's opponents were
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in the 2020 democratic presidential primary contest. the key question becomes can a candidate in this era thrive with a majority of big donors with maybe even close to big donors alone. >> big donors alone is not going to cut it. whoever comes out of the republican primary, and certainly the expectation is that joe biden will have more small donors, particularly into early next year that that spigot will turn on some. but for the quarter that ended at the end of june, about 17% of the money that came in to joe biden to his campaign and to the political action committees that support him, the joint finance agreement, about 17% of that money came from donors who gave $200 or less. the comparable period four years ago, that number for donald trump was 35.
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about half coming from small donors and the president raised less in that period than trump did in the same period four years ago. they have some work to do. the campaign people will tout that 30% of the donors to their campaign are new since 2020. there's a lot of room to grow, they believe. but certainly these numbers suggest that there isn't kind of the grass roots organic excitement around biden that there have been around some other candidates. >> which is why we'll be watching the numbers so closely along with you. reid epstein, thank you so much. george santos and lies he told about his education, work history, and family while running for office. . >> reporter: democrats tell me
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they would like to see this vote brought to the floor before the august recess, which is thousand just two weeks away. this is a privileged resolution, being introduced by congressman ricky torres. because it's privileged, once he brings it to the table, it has to be voted on or tabled. similar to the tactic republicans use as related to the censure of republican adam schiff. this is something that democrats want to see action on. they're frustrated that the ethics investigation into santos has languished, even though the ethics committee had promised if they would get something done soon, and a group of house republicans, all from new york, even said that they wanted to see action within 60 days by the ethics committees as part of the reason they voted to table a resolution, to expel santos from congress. i just asked house speaker kevin mccarthy what he thought of the censure resolution, and whether or not he thought it should go forward, and this is what kevin
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mccarthy told me. >> ethics needs to do their job, as all of you know because you have covered this job, ethics is an equal number of republicans and democrats. we don't get involved within the ethics committee. these individuals will do their job and get their work done and follow through on whatever they need to fight. >> reporter: the question is when will they follow through on that action. democrats are frustrated because if they aren't able to come to a resolution before the august recess, santos could remain in congress into the fall, september, and perhaps beyond. that's why they're demanding something happen now. it's important to keep in mind that a censure is the congressional equivalent to a slap on the wrist. doesn't look good on someone's record but has no material penalty to the member of congress, even if he were to be censured, he'd still be a sitting member of congress. >> ryan reynolds, thank you for
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search efforts are ongoing in pennsylvania where officials are trying to find a baby and toddler missing after a flash flood swept several cars right off the road. check out this new video, it shows search teams on the delaware river, less than a quarter mile from where those children were last seen. officials say at least five people also died in the flooding. after roughly 7 inches of rain fell in less than an hour. swamping the roads before cars even had a chance to drive away. across the southwest, emergency rooms are seeing a sharp rise in patients coming in with heat exhaustion, heatstroke, and severe burns.
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all due to the unrelenting high temperatures. the patient numbers are up more than 15% compared to last year at hospitals in the rio grande valley. as of about a week ago, one hospital in phoenix said roughly one out of every five patients coming in had some sort of heat-related illness. i want to bring in dr. kevin foster, director of the arizona burn center for valley wide health. doctor, thank you for being with us. i know how busy you are. are you seeing this with the same kind of up tick in patients that many other hospitals have been seeing? >> we really have. we had a very nice spring here in arizona. but now that the temperatures have gotten into triple digits, we are really seeing a sharp spike in the number of patients coming in with heat-related injuries, particularly burn injuries from contact with hot pavement. >> well, let's talk about that because i read that exposed pavement can reach 180 degrees. what kind of damage could that do to a person even with just a
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second or two of contact? >> you're exactly right. on a hot summer afternoon in arizona, blacked asphalt or cement or pavement can get to be 100 degrees fahrenheit, which is just a little bit below boiling. all it takes is a fraction of a second, skin exposed to that temperature, and you can get a very severe burn. and unfortunately, a lot of the people that we're seeing are going down and staying down for a long period of time, and so they're suffering really horrendous burns. >> i mean, a fraction of a second, is this a situation where by the time you feel the burn, the damage has already been done? >> yeah, that's true. i mean, walking across hot pavement, if you feel the burn and get off it right away, you'll probably be okay. but people who go down, fall down on the hot pavement, almost always end up with severe burns. by the time you get up, even if you're able to get up quickly, the dang has been done.
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>> i'm going to assume that the biggest danger, and we know this certainly with respiratory problems caused by the heat, but the younger you are and the older you are? >> yeah, absolutely. people at the extremes of age. young children, toddlers, infants, and elderly people are definitely more susceptible. >> dr., phoenix is no stranger to heat, you know that better than i do. have you ever seen anything quite like this? >> we really haven't. summer time is our busy time, and we expect to get contact burns, pavement burns, but we really have not seen the numbers like we're seeing this summer. i don't know why. >> what's your best advice to folks not just in phoenix, but unrelenting temperatures have really heated up everything you touch outside? >> right. so a couple of easy things. don't go outside in the hottest part of the day, late morning, mid afternoon, if you have to go out, protect yourself. some protective clothing, hats,
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and make sure you wear good footwear, not just socks, but shoes that will protect your feet from the hot pavement. >> yeah, probably feels counter intuitive to wear socks in temperatures like this. good advice, dr. kevin foster, good luck, i know you've got another long week ahead of you, appreciate your time. >> we do, thank you. heavy rain falling in south korea for a ninth day in a row as rescue workers there search for people trapped in flood waters all across that country. in a city just south of seoul, flash flooding filled the tunnel with a dozen vehicles, including a bus trapped inside. most of that water has now been pumped out, but the bodies of at least 13 victims have been recovered. it's not clear right now if anyone else is still missing. and along china's silk road, priceless ancient art work dating back to the 4th century is in danger of disappearing
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after a day-long man hunt, georgia police say they have shot a man wanted in the killing of four people. andre longmore gunned down victims in georgia about 35 miles south of atlanta. it's not clear if he knew any of them or what the motive might have been. when police tracked them down, a chase and shootout ensued. >> the monster is dead. the entire state of georgia can breathe a little easy. tonight, the suspect is off the streets. >> according to the gun violence archives, there have been five mass shootings, just since that one on saturday. bringing the total this year to 390. actor kevin spacey, enlisting star power for his
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ongoing sexual assault trial. singer elton john made a brief appearance by video today as a witness for the defense. nbc's josh lederman is following the trial. josh, why was elton john, and i think his husband as well, asked to testify? >> reporter: that's right, chris. elton john and his husband both testifying remotely, and the reason is that one of the allegations against kevin spacey centers on an annual gala event that the singer, elton john, held at his home in windsor. a younger man has accused kevin spacey of while driving to the event in 2004 or 2005, this young man says kevin spacey grabbed him in an inappropriate way, forcing him almost to drive off the road. now, elton john and his husband were called in because they say that kevin spacey, in fact, did not attend that event in either year. they testified in court today that the actor only attended
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their annual event once back in 2001, and in fact, they said they had gone through all of the photos from the event that year to make sure that kevin spacey, in fact, was not there, and they have determined he didn't attend. so the defense making the case that if kevin spacey wasn't at the party that year, that allegation must be bogus. but of course, this is one of a number of allegations that kevin spacey faces including seven counts of sexual assault, three counts of indecent assault, the most serious charge that he is facing is causing sexual activity involving penetration without consent. the maximum penalty, if he's convicted on that count, chris, could be life in prison. kevin spacey, we heard him testifying in his own defense. he says all of these are exaggerated events but made up but none of them constituted criminal activity, and meanwhile, we're at the start of
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the fourth week of this trial, which is expected to last about a month. we could see the defense wrap up this trial, and reach its conclusion in the next week or so. >> josh lederman, thank you. terrifying moments in the sky after the pilot of a small plane had a medical emergency leaving it up to his passenger to take the controls and get them back on the ground safely. nbc's aaron gilchrist reports on the miracle landing in martha's vineyard. >> a miracle on martha's vineyard, a small plane crash landing on the airport runway s medical emergency. >> single aircraft down, one patient unresponsive at the time. >> reporter: this video posted online, unconfirmed by nbc news but matching descriptions of scenes by the police. a 75-year-old pilot became unresponsive midair before his female passenger took the controls. >> what can you tell us about how difficult it might have been
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to land something like this? >> it is not a trainer, so it's going to require more skill. it's going to approach the airport at higher speeds. >> reporter: the small plane, a 2006 piper meridian took off from west chester, new york, on route to martha's vineyard, the plane's left wing breaking in half after a hard landing. last year, darren harrison made a similar heroic landing in florida. >> i have a serious situation here. my pilot has gone incoherent. >> reporter: we had now gone into a dive. >> reporter: harrison spoke to our savannah guthrie about taking control and safely landing with zero experience in the cockpit. >> i knew it was a life or death situation. either you do what you have to do to control the situation or you're going to die, and that's what i did. >> reporter: massachusetts state police say the pilot was flown to a boston hospital in serious life threatening condition and the passenger wasn't seriously hurt.
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elon musk says twitter's cash flow is in the red, after a
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50% drop in ad revenue, since he took over, coupled with heavy debt. his takeover triggered an exodus to advertisers who were worried about content moderation, and mass layoffs. experts say aggressive cost cutting measures since musk acquired twitter have not worked to get positive cash flow. last week, twitter rolled out a new program to pay top content creators a slice of the ad revenue. that's part of a push to lure creators to the platform. meantime, the head of the teamsters union says he's asked the white house not to intervene, if ups workers decide to strike. the company and union representing 240,000 of its employees have until the end of the month to agree to a new contract. and those talks have grown to a halt in recent weeks with both sides accusing the other of walking away from the table. msnbc's seema mody, what are the
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sticking points and what might it mean for our delivery? >> the real sticking point is wages for part-time workers, which is union is pushing for as part of the five-year labor agreement which will expire at the end of july. if the deal is not reached, workers would go on strike beginning august 1st, and negotiations are underway since early july. talks are breaking down coinciding with picketing in different parts of the country. one research institute is estimating that a ten-day ups strike would cost the economy over $7 billion. resulting in significant disruption, not just consumers but small businesses and online retailers as well, chris. >> so the big question is for folks who count on this to fuel their businesses and for those of us who often order online, does ups have a back up plan in case the strike happens, and i'm curious what you're hearing on the street, and that includes
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wall street, about concerns. the concern level that this might happen. >> yeah, well, ups is making contingency plans by starting to train non-union workers in the event that a strike does take place. wall street is curious to see if president biden will weigh in. he could potentially intervene as part of an emergency provision, forcing both sides to come to a deal. remember, he did intervene in the nationwide railroad dispute in september, forcing both parties to reach a deal and avoid a strike. as you point out, teamsters president has been clear with the white house not to intervene. unclear at this point what role washington will play, but this will affect 340,000 workers. >> all we can do is watch and wait. thank you for that. much appreciated. and that's going to do it for us this hour. be sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern.
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and a reminder, tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern, joe scarborough hosts a prime time special, taking a look at the making of oppenheimer, one of this year's most hotly anticipated block busters. joe will sit down with director christopher nolan, matt damon, emily blunt, that is font, 8:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc and streaming on peacock. our coverage continues with katy tur reports right now. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. could 2024 be the year of the third party candidate or will it just be another third party spoiler? >> no one has ever won the white house who was outside of the two-party system, not once, in our 247-year history. so why does the party called no labels think it has a chance? is it the reported $70 million budget or the novelty of the

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