Skip to main content

tv   The Rachel Maddow Show  MSNBC  July 18, 2023 1:00am-2:01am PDT

1:00 am
investigation that could result in his indictment in that state for his efforts to overturn the election results in that state r while the georgia state supreme court has just ruled tonight against him.ns they will do no such thing. they will not quash that w investigation. the investigation will proceed. the prosecutor is not removed.ig a grand jury that may be asked to return an indictment has been impaneled in georgia as of last week. so that is all going ahead. his efforts to derail that ha investigation and potential prosecution failed tonight in ut georgia supreme court. i will also say, i'm self-conscious about giving youc an update like that. i feel like you have to run ovet
1:01 am
to your personal white board or cork board with thumb tacks and strings on it to keep track of g these things. if you are are starting to feel like all these stories about trumput facing charges are all blending together, if you're having a hard time keeping track of all the jurisdictions in he is being put on trail for criminal charges or maybe, first of all, you do not have to feel embarrassed f about that. you are not alone. it is getting hard to keep track.ac second of all, we'll have more only later in the show. help hopefully with ly disentangling all of his varioup indictments and potential nt indictments and how some of them may affect whether others may go forward. we'll have a little
1:02 am
disentangling help with that ha later this hour tonight. we're also going to be talking h with pennsylvania's governor, e josh shapiro.en s aspen pen governor, he's just pulled off like a carnival feate of strength.en tell gubernatorial equivalent ob bench pressing a car or winning a tug-of-war with an elephant or something.es he just did something nobody thought was possible in his hom state of pennsylvania. he's going to be joining us live to talk about that. we start with an update on something we've been covering. it will be the political sleeper hit of the summer. you might have seen, there is this big "new york times" storyh a very important story about hoi the leading republican presidential candidate donald trump and republicans more broadly have this plan that they want to put in place if the republican party wins the presidency in 2024. they're calling it project 2025 because this is a plan that is supposed to go into effect upon the inauguration of donald trump in 2025.
1:03 am
either trump or some other republican president gets inaugurated in january of 2025 and project 2025 thereby goes into effect. this plan is being coordinated by right wing think tank called the heritage foundation. it is a plan to radically change the form of governments that we have in the united states.s. so as to concentrate all the power of the government in the f hands of a single leader. quote, our current executive branch was conceived of by liberals. what is necessary is a complete system overhaul. quote, what we're trying to do is identify the pockets of independents inside the u.s. government and seize them. seize them. there won't be any more pockets of independent power outside the power that is held by the president. as i am, they want this to be
1:04 am
donald trump. they want him to be the guy in whose hands all this power is concentrated. they say they would plan to do this with any republican president. the plan is to change the structure of the u.s. government so the next president, the next republican president will take direct control of all state ct power. he would, for example, take over all federal law enforcement and run that directly for his own benefit through the doj. there would be no more independence of federal law pe enforcement. the next president would take em control of private business in e this country for his own benefi through the powers of the ftc.ou the federal trade commission. the next president would revivet an old and i should say illegal practice call impoundment whichi would basically take away the fundamental powers of congress m and put that power, too, in trump's hands. again, identify the pockets of independents and seize them. instead of checks and balances, we would have more of a strong
1:05 am
man system of government.ld a single leader with all the power of the state personally arrogated to him. no other part of the governmento no other thing in the country at all would be allowed to er constrain him. that sounds nice.ai it at least sounds simple. that said, it is obviously fundamentally opposite to the whole idea of why we exist as a country in the first place, and i think it is no surprise to see an article like this, to see reporting like this in the "times" today." everybody knows this is where the american political right, where the republican party has been heading in the trump era. but still, i think the reason this reporting today is getting so much attention and causing so much consternation is because however much this might be the dream of the trump era right wing in american politics, for
1:06 am
the most part, the american people really don't want this. so it is one thing to see it hinted at, or to feel like this is the system they would like to replace our system with. it is another thing to see it in black letter print. that they put a name on it. it hat has an implementation date and they're getting it ready. in general, the american people don't want to live under a single leader who has concentrated all power in his own hands and nothing constrains him and nothing else matters s other than his own whims, and preferences and grudges. you don't want to live in a en country under a leader like thar who is a good guy let alone a leader like that who is a bad l guy. you don't have to be a civics dork to know you don't want n'o that. by and large the american people really don't. but here's the thing. while that is a the vision at the top for the american
1:07 am
political right info the trump era, that's what they want for their national leader. that's what they want the american presidency to become.at it's also their broader project for what they think of governance. if you go down a step or two an from their strong man vision for the guy at the very top.y they're also getting very big ideas about what to do with s their power in the states right now. this is not something they need a project 2025 for. i this is not something they have to wait and hope to have another republican president in 2025. this is something they're doing now. this is why i think this is the political sleeper issue of the summer.caer just one week ago on the show, we reported that the republicane attorney general of tennessee ep was seizing private unredacted medical records of people in tennessee. so you go to the doctor.se you have an expectation that your health care experience is private.
1:08 am
your medical records are confidential. but in tennessee, families recently got a notice from the vanderbilt university medical center telling them their personal unredacted individual medical records had been taken by the state attorney general. these records were seized without the consent of these t patients. without any way to opt out.t he just took them. his office still has them.to he's had them for months. now, in tennessee, like in every state where republicans are in power, republicans in that state have been going after trans people and the medical records, the tennessee republican attorney general confiscated were from trans people and other people who had attended a clinio in tennessee that provides w gender affirming care. now, at this point, some of you watching me now are thinking, oh, that's what this is.ng this is one of those things at about transgender affirming
1:09 am
care. that's probably thinking, that's too bad for trans people in tennessee. i wouldn't wish that on anyone e but we know the republicans are really coming after those people so that's bad for them but it's not really a surprise. this is kind of a niche story. it turns out that once you've convinced yourself that you have the right to go take the private medical records of people you've decided are bad people, once you've decided you have the right the take the private medical records of people because you think they don't actually have the right to make their own decisions for their own lives and their own health care, so they don't have any legitimate expectation of privacy.ac they don't have any legitimate n expectation of protection from you.u. once you've decided that you have that kind of power, those a kinds of rights, it's amazing how far and how fast those feelings will take you. so it was just a week ago we fa covered tennessee's republican e
1:10 am
attorney general seizing the private medical records of trany people in that state.at well, here's the lead in a breaking news story in the tennesseean newspaper tonight. the tennessee attorney general wantsse the state to be able to investigate and compel information onan out-of-state abortions. these are your private medical records. they are taking them already from trans people in tennessee.e now they want to take them from any tennessee woman who has had an abortion in another state.nn in another state?th yeah. if you live in tennessee and you need to get an abortion, well, republicans have instituted an abortion ban in tennessee.ic you can't get one in tennessee i anymore.n' you will need to travel out of state. n but tennessee's republican attorney general now says he intends to effectively follow you out-of-state to get your medical records to seeof if you gotl an abortion somewhere els even in a state where it's
1:11 am
legal. that's the tennesseean tonight. and oh, look, it's also in kentucky. tonight in the louisville courier journal. the kentucky attorney general e wants kentuckians out of state abortion records to be available to authorities. oh, it's not just tennessee.ho it's also kentucky.'s and here it is in arkansas, tooe today, in the arkansas times. arkansas attorney general wantss to know about your out of stateo abortion. it's happening with the ap republican attorney general in l arkansas, too. oh, and look.as here tonight.d on here it is in georgia. georgia attorney general.t and here it is in mississippi.ge mississippi's attorney general. this is from mississippi today.i a nonprofit news organization which is actually first to breao the story with the headline.is mississippi's attorney general r wants to make info on
1:12 am
out-of-state abortions to mississippi authorities. mississippi has banned abortion. there is no abortion clinic lef in mississippi. if you live in mississippi and you need to get an abortion, you will need to figure out how to e get yourself out of mississippi into a state where you can legally get one. but the republicans and state government in mississippi say they will effectively follow you out of the state by virtue of the fact that you are a mississippi resident, sorry, they now claim the right to seize your medical records from like a clinic in new york or in illinois or wherever else you r go. they claim the right to follow you there and take your medicala records there for their own law enforcement purposes.er and i just showed you headlines from mississippi, kentucky, tennessee, arkansas, georgia.is but it is actually 19 different statesal where republican officials are going through this
1:13 am
now. 19 -- republican attorney generals in 19 states have signed onto a letter to the biden administration saying they want the right to go after women's private medical records anywhere in the country, including in all the states where abortion is legal. they want to follow their onth residents all over the country t to see if that woman might be ee getting an abortion or some other type of reproductive care anywhere.g they want the records and they claim the right to go get them.n republican attorneys general inc all of those states have sent this letter to the biden t administration about their right as they see it to get your st private medical records.y and they mean it for women e getting an abortion or fertility treatment or any kind of reproductive care.en potentially contraception. also gender-affirming care of od any kind.en they claim the right to take your medical records to see whaa
1:14 am
you're up to with that kind of care no matter where you have gone to get it. how can you get away from ca something like this?in if this is what they say they want to do, and it is, how do you get away from it? the reason they've written to as the biden administration sayinge they claim this right is because the biden administration says de they should not have the right to do this.ho the biden administration is trying to assert federally that attorneys general from states ey where abortion is banned can't follow their residents to other states to see if they're getting banned care from someplace where it's legal. beyond those efforts to protect this at the federal level from l the biden administration, you've started to see blue states. places like new york and washington state that have l passed state laws saying that id nobody should be able to get private medical records like st this. just because you've banned abortion in your state doesn't c mean you can effectively enforcy it in mine.
1:15 am
here's 19 republican states, 19 republican state attorneys general saying they're going for it. and maybe they already are. when the reporter joe sanka frob the louisville courier journal today asked the kentucky attorney general's office if they have alreadyen pursued private medical records from kentucky womenca who have had medical treatment in other states, the attorney general's office didn't give joe sanka an answer. he said he's still not heard back umfor the attorney general aboutor this. which leaves the possibility maybe they're already doing this. maybe they're already trying to gete these medical records. they used to say the republican party was the party of limited government. this is a lot of things but thie is not that.s joining us now, president of t pro-choice america. it's really great to see you. thanks for being here.
1:16 am
>> thanks for having me. >> so i want to start with this> letter from these 19 republican attorneys general. f they're writing to the biden administration why? why have they taken this on as a matter of they need to take one the federal government? >> the republican ags have been increasingly extremist. they're some of the most egregious offenders of attacks on our fundamental freedoms from the right toal vote to reproductive freedom.ti it's not shocking as they're losinghe the republican war on abortion, they're pivoting and trying to conflate gender affirming care attacks with abortion care. we know that the opponents for reproductive abortion acts are the same as for gender affirming care. we know where the dark money is coming from. we know who's the organizers behind this. weere's model legislation. this all started with sb-8 in gl
1:17 am
texas, my home state, which established this vigilante m mechanism and really encouragede the citizens of the state to spy and report texans who left the state to have abortions.po when you have organized entities with extremist organizations like heritage society, christiat right to life, they are literally disseminating model legislation andss tactics withi the ags and the legislatures. so it's not shocking. our sense of this is they're ou losing the public opinion war on abortion. they are desperate to win back n power and in mississippi, we re know we have folks, the a.g. is currently up for re-election and she'll be in a tough race. this is them fear-mongering i against some of the most t vulnerable americans to try to r score points and they're increasingly desperate base.po >> so we started covering the ea story when we learned about it
1:18 am
in tennessee. when families in tennessee got notified by vanderbilt university medical center that n much to their chagrin, the o medical center felt compelled ta hand over people's medical records when the attorney ve general demanded them. the families didn't find out that the medical records had gone to the a.g.'s office until months after they'd been handed over, which i think was very distressing to a lot of these families. it raises practical questions immediately. one is what can medical providers do to protect the privacy of their patients?erac both in republican-controlled states where there may be bans but also in blue states where these things are legal and people should be able to obtain this medical care without government intrusion. what can people themselves do to protect themselves if all these attorneys general are saying they think people's medical information like this is fair
1:19 am
game? >> so i think you alluded to it before, the biden administration,, hhs, proposed this rule in, response to an active, you know, public comment period. but alsobl the white house led president harris and the gender policy council has done 40 plus meetings with abortion providers, activists, patients in tough states like idaho and missouri. they've been i soliciting feedbk from legislators, a.g.'s. they've known for a long time this is what states were trying towh do. the reporting you gave, they've beenyo tracking this, which is also why state -- the u.s. senate last year, catherine cortez masto, also tried to pass legislation that would protect providers andat patients from crossing state lines. now, what can folks do in the statesdo where a.g.s are threatening their body autonomy and freedom, their best choice is to fightth back at the balloh box. we have to get more activists
1:20 am
about removing extremist a.g.s. some of the most forward thinking attorneys general are now governors in the states doing the most advanced reproductive care. you're going to have a governorg shapiro on, he's the a. g. governor healey, he's the a. g. reproductive freedom voters to your point in the show earlier, rachel, they have to become the supporters of aey broad range og freedoms for everybody, for our lgbtq brothers and sisters. the other course of action folks can takee is to challenge thes bills and these laws in the courts. and a lot of our colleagues at aclu are working on litigation. >> president of pro-choice america. thanks very much forf making te this evening. this is ach story that i think going to get more attention in the days ahead. it's helpful to have you here. >> thank you. >> i should say when the biden
1:21 am
administrationen announced this rule to try to prevent, effectively, republican attorneys general in republican controlled states from chasing their residents around the state going after their medical, from chasing residents around the country going after their medical medical records, they put out a statement saying your conversations about your doctor andon reproductive health care including abortion care are your own business, no one else's. i remember when they put out the statement at there time i rememr thinking at the t time, yes, clearly that'se the obvious bottom o line which we all procd here. it's not a the obvious bottom le in which b 19 republican states are proceeding now. it's incredible this is contested ground. but what isn't? much more ahead tonight. stay with us. 'tore ahead tonigh. stay with us
1:22 am
1:23 am
1:24 am
sleepovers just aren't what they used to be. a house full of screens? basically no hiccups? you guys have no idea how good you've got it. how old are you? like, 80? back in my day, it was scary stories and flashlights.
1:25 am
we don't get scared. oh, really? mom can see your search history. that's what i thought. introducing the next generation 10g network. only from xfinity. i know there's about dupuytren's contracture. i thought i couldn't get treatment yet? well, people may think that their contracture has to be severe to be treated, but it doesn't. if you can't lay your hand flat on the table, talk to a hand specialist. but what if i don't want surgery? well, then you should find a hand specialist certified to offer nonsurgical treatments. what's the next step? visit findahandspecialist.com today to get started.
1:26 am
whether you like him or you don't, florida's republican governor ron desantis has a presidential campaign that i think everybody acknowledges is not going very well. a couple of months and many millions of dollars into this thing already, he is right now trailing former president donald trump by over 30 points in the polls. he did not think it would go that way. or maybe he wouldn't have gotten in in the first place. now that the first fundraising numbers are in for his campaign, the headlines for desantis keep getting worse by the day. like these. desantis' campaign sheds staff amid cash crunch. desantis' campaign finances have
1:27 am
some flashing warning signs. desantis fires roughly a dozen staffers in campaign shakeup. but while his presidential campaign is going poorly, spare a thought to the governor as to his day job which is arguably going worse than his presidential campaign. and his day job being governor of florida, that has been going poorly on stuff that is sort of lower profile, but perhaps more unnerving. take, for example, the fact florida is experiencing its first cases of malaria in a couple of decades. under desantis, the top relevant jobs are vacant in the public health agency that is responsible for detecting and preventing the spread of diseases like malaria, so that's a bad time for their newly to be malaria in florida. there's also an exodus of insurance company from florida which means an increasing number of that state's residents are losing basic thing like car insurance and home insurance.
1:28 am
it's not just because of natural disasters. it is also because of state policies related to insurance that insurance companies say are forcing them out. democratic lawmakers in the state say they've been trying to get desantis to focus on a solution to try to keep insurance companies in the state and keep insurance premiums from skyrocketing. tay say he's too distracted by his war on woke and his failing presidential bid to do much about it. there's also desantis' weird repeat effort to create his own militia, something called the florida state guard, which is different than the national guard which can be called up federally. the florida state guard would answer only to him. the miami herald has amazing new reporting about the guards leaders quating in discuss including one leader describing it as arb quote, fantasy camp. and there's the stuff desantis is doing where you can't improve
1:29 am
on the headline this one. desantis signs florida bill allowing radioactive roads made of potentially cancer causing mining waste. what can go wrong? if that's the headline as governor it's the next thing the people of your state think i want him in charge of the whole country, too. even the big political stunts that ron desantis has been so excited about, so eager to promote, those have been not turning out well for him recently either like his much heralded fight against disney. that has now resulted in a major lawsuit against him by disney which is the state's largest employer, and then of course there's his ongoing series of stunts in which he sends undocumented immigrants by the planeload or bus load to liberal cities and towns, dropping these people off without any plan, without any resources, without any preparation for their
1:30 am
arrival because, ha-ha, that'll show those northern liberals. ron desantis is the one who started this last year by sending flights full of people to martha's vineyard off the coast of massachusetts, flights full of migrants and asylum seekers. he found them in texas and paid millions of dollars to put them on charter fights at taxpayer expense to send them up to massachusetts. since then florida lawmakers have given desantis over 20 million more dollars to do more of this. and ron desantis is clearly gleeful about doing this to these poor people. he thinks this is an awesome political stunt, but there's reason to believe it may not turn out well for him either. in the texas county where desantis had those folks picked up and sent to marketaa vineyard the sheriff in that county has filed criminal charges with the attorney. the case does include felony
1:31 am
counts for the coercion of the men, women, and children who were lied to in order to get them onto those planes. the other reason this may not turn out well for desantis is that stunts like this never turn out well. and we know this because he's nut the first person to have done this. today we just posted an episode of "deja news" our new podcast about this exact same stunt being tried by conservatives in the 1960s. and then there were southern segregations. and they decided they would teach those northern elites a lesson by putting people on buses, putting poor african americans on buses and driving them up north, dropping them on liberals doorsteps in places like massachusetts and in new york, sending people up there by lying to them, sending them up
1:32 am
would there with no money, no resources, no plan, and no warning for the place they were due to arrive. now, the reason many of us have not heard this story about what southern conservatives did in 1962 is that the whole thing was so cruel and so shameful that even in the civil rights cauldron of cruelty in those fights in 1960, these stunts were seen as too cruel. they collapsed under the weight of public denunciations even from the white south, and everybody wanted to forget about it as soon as possible, so the whole thing -- in other words, it went very poorly for those who did this before ron desantis did it. i'm guessing he might not know that, not it's in this week's episode. if you want to listen to it you can scan the code on your screen and click the little box. it'll take you right to it. or you can search it wherever you get your podcasts.
1:33 am
it's called rachel maddow presents deja news. free to listen anywhere. we'll be right back. free to listen anywhere. we'll be right back. we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy! well, not everyone knows coventry's helped thousands of people sell their policies for cash. even term policies. i can't believe they're just sitting up there! sitting on all this cash. if you own a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more, you can sell all or part of it to coventry. even a term policy. for cash, or a combination of cash and coverage, with no future premiums. someone needs to tell them, that they're sitting on a goldmine, and you have no idea! hey, guys!
1:34 am
you're sitting on a goldmine! come on, guys! do you hear that? i don't hear anything anymore. find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com.
1:35 am
1:36 am
1:37 am
the clip i'm about to show you is of a high profile very far-right republican congresswoman whose name is marjorie taylor greene and this is her speaking at a conservative political conference this weekend. the clip i'm about to show you is unedited. it is not doctored in any way.
1:38 am
>> lyndon b. johnson is very similar to joe biden. how are they the same? they're both democrat socialists. linden b. johnson was the majority leader in the senate. does that sound floor? he was vice president to kennedy. joe was vice president to obama. he was appointed as the president after jfk was assassinated, then he was elected. his big socialist programs were the great society. the great society were big government programs to address education, medical care, urban problems, rural poverty, transportation, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, and welfare. the office of economic opportunity and big labor and labor unions. now, lbj had the great society, but joe biden had build back better. and he still is working on it. the largest public investment in
1:39 am
social infrastructure and environmental programs that is actually finishing what fdr started that lbj expanded on and joe biden is attempting to complete. >> my favorite part about all this is it seems -- it seems she has just learned that there is this guy named linden johnson. wait until you hear about this guy, literally when the largest percentage of the popular vote in the history of american presidential elections. by all that dastardly trying to address problems related to education and poverty and medical care, a terrible guy. also linden b. johnson was the majority leader in the senate. duds that sound familiar?
1:40 am
joe biden's now the majority leader. congresswoman greene spent this weekend trying to horrify her audience by telling them that democrats like they always have want to do practical popular things to improve peoples lives. the horror. her pitch there was so unintentionally perfect that the white house today tweeted out her remarks saying, quote, caught us. president biden is working to make life easier for hardworking families. the biden administration is, like, clicking their heels together delighted with this very high profile member of the republican party attacking president biden and democrats for doing so much to give practical help to the american people particularly stuff they really want help with. if there is a theme, a sort of common play book in democratic governance right now i think it is both defense in what republicans are trying to do. and offense on the world's most
1:41 am
practical things, the kinds of things joe biden really wants to be known for, the kinds of things that i think today's biden era democratic party is putting up on the marquee. the idea of, you know, what government can do that helps everyone. we saw it today in a big way in illinois. illinois democratic governor j.b. pritzker just announcing the biggest infrastructure investment in that state's history. it's expected to improve every aspect of transportation in that state, roads and bridges and aviation and railway and everything. it's something we've also seen in very dramatic form in the state of pennsylvania, where the new democratic governor of that state, josh shapiro, has earned not just bragging rights but crowing rights after dealing with a catastrophic, unforeseen collapse on one of the busiest highways in the whole country.
1:42 am
you might remember this was just last month, a section of i-95 right in philadelphia was taken out after a big accident involving a gasoline tanker truck. now, at the time this is i-95, experts said it would take months to reopen i-95. essentially this major east coast artery that serves more than 160,000 vehicles a day would be shut for months. in the end, it did not take months to repair. under pennsylvania governor josh shapiro it took 12 days. it was a massive undertaking. it is nearly inconceivable that pennsylvania pulled it off, but less than two weeks after a whole section of interstate was cratered, officials the roadway back up and running. in a new op-ed for "the washington post" governor shapiro says the play book we developed shows that americans can do big things again. joining us now is the democratic
1:43 am
governor of the great state of pennsylvania, joshtia peer. governor shapiro, it's really nice to have you here. thanks. >> great to be back with you. thanks, rachel. >> when this collapse happened, obviously there was the worry about the immediate damage and the danger and the people who were hurt by this. there was the worry about what it was going to take to put it together, but i think there was broad-based near universal perception that this was going to take months, that there was no end run around this to do it faster. how were you able to do it so much faster than literally everybody expected? >> yeah, all the experts said months, and i can tell you, rachel, it started after your first responders in law enforcement did an incredible job of putting out the fire and saving all but one life, the trucker who, you know, whose truck caught fire. they did an incredible job.
1:44 am
and once that fire was out i actually went above the site in a helicopter, looked down, and immediately working with my team came up with a plan to in effect fill the hole that existed in order to repave 95 over the top. it sounds simple, but it was a creative solution that allowed us to move quickly, move collaboratively and get this done. get 160,000 cars and 14,000 trucks that navigate that roadway every single day to move quickly again. we were able to move quickly by virtue of creative thinking, and that sort of came to us in those initial moments we were on the scene after the fire was put out. >> you wrote an op-ed this weekend for "the washington post" in which you said here are lessons for u.s. infrastructure. number one, empower strong leadership, number two, speed up the bureaucracy. number three, encourage creativity, and number four,
1:45 am
work together. i was really interested in that fourth point because i think particularly from a national perspective we're capable of thinking of americans working together particularly in a political environment. you, yourself, had a really divisive gubernatorial campaign to get the job now, and you've got republicans who are in control of the state senate. tell me about political divides and working together and how you can get something like this done when you do have split power. >> look, there is too much division in our politics today and it holds us back. and i think what the american people want is people actually to come together and get stuff done for them. and when you have a catastrophe like we hadden 95, we recognized everyone needed to come together, every politician, the private sector, our state government and importantly the unions in pennsylvania to make sure we could do that rebuild effort. we had to collaborate to make
1:46 am
sure we got the funding, and i want to thank the president for making sure all the funding we needed was going to be there. we had to collaborate with engineers and lawyers and others to make the plan, and importantly we had to collaborate with the building trades who committed to me they would work 24/7 in order to get this job done. collaboration is key, and unfortunately we don't have too much of that in our politics today. i hope this can be an example of the good, practical things that can happen when people collaborate, when they come together. collaboration also has, you know, an outgrowth of that. and that is that people feel empowered. empowered to demonstrate real leadership. so we had, you know, the foreman and the forewomen on that road doing it work, they were empowered to make big choices and big decisions. we had real creativity when it came to solutions necessary to open our roadway up again. that collaboration led to
1:47 am
creativity. the collaboration showed the bureaucracy that they could move quicker, that we were going to have their backs and that we were going to be able to get through this together. so collaboration was key, and toits going to be key if we're going to rebuild america's infrastructure. it's going to be key to lay broadband. it's going to be key to cap wells and stop the leak of methane, which is really leading to more and more climate change every single day. we're going to need to collaborate in this country again and think big and bold and be creative and demonstrate real leadership. that's what we did here in pennsylvania. when the eyes of the nation were on us, we stepped up and delivered, demonstrating that the union way of life can deliver, demonstrating that government can still do big things, and we showed that here in pennsylvania. >> it's one thing to say it. it's another thing to show it. and yet another thing to have people driving on it months before they thought they ever would be able to. pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, congratulations on this, sir. thank you for telling the
1:48 am
country that it's happened so we can talk about this story, but congratulations also on getting it done. >> thank you so much, rachel. >> all right, we'll be right back. stay with us. right back stay with us
1:49 am
1:50 am
1:51 am
1:52 am
so officially this is tom moorland interchange in atlanta, georgia. but the locals call it spaghetti junction because it looks like an overturned level of spaghetti. it's a five level staff of intertwining interchanges where interstate 85 and interstate 285
1:53 am
intersect and go bananas. it is possible the complexity of this intersection is about to be undone or at least outdone as the most complicated intersection in atlanta because tomorrow is due to the be the first big pretrial hearing in former president trump's classified documents case in federal court. we're expecting the judge in that federal case to set a schedule for that federal criminal trial maybe tomorrow or some time shortly thereafter. on top of that, though, today the georgia state supreme court unanimously vejecked an effort by trump to get a georgia prosecutor off his case. this is georgia attorney fani willis which has been trump's efforts to get the election results overturned.
1:54 am
willis has all but made explicitthy she anticipates announcing the grand jury's indictment decision some time between the last day of this month, july 31st, and august 18thch these would be possible state level charges, potentially serious ones. but coming in from the southbound on-ramp, could be federal special counsel jack smith with his own charges along the same lines. because in addition to bringing criminal charges against trump in the classified documents case, the case for which we might get a trial scheduled tomorrow, jack smith has also been running this other federal investigation into trump's role in the january 6th attack and overturning the results of the election and the whole fake electors scheme, potentially even his fund-raising off the fake stolen auction claims. that seems it might overlap and crisscross with the state level
1:55 am
investigation of many things happening in atlanta. and that raises the question about timing. georgia prosecutor fani will' indictment may be imminent. legal experts say if there are similar charges on a similar matter you could expect federal court to take precedence. just in terms of timing that may all come to a bumper car collision before we know it. if that has you feeling like all the trump world indictments and investigations are tangled up with each other like someone spilled spaghetti, you're not wrong because to add further complication it now looks like there are two other states that have opened state level criminal investigations into the fake electors part of the scheme. both in michigan and in arizona. if those result in charges, well, yeah, the calender is going to get complicated here. the calender already is complicated if you are lawyering for donald j. trump, and god bless you if you are. each individual prosecutor can
1:56 am
pursuit their investigation at their own pace. but once they decide to go to court, they're going to have to put on a blinker and merge with all the other prosecutors. spaghetti junction just ahead. we'll be right back. spaghetti junction just ahead. we'll be right back.
1:57 am
(wheezing) asthma isn't pretty. it's the moment when you realize that a good day... is about to become a bad one. but then, i remembered that the world is so much bigger than that, with trelegy. because one dose a day helps keep my asthma symptoms under control. and with 3 medicines in 1 inhaler,
1:58 am
trelegy helps improve lung function so i can breathe easier for a full 24 hours. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. trelegy contains a medicine that increases risk of hospitalizations and death from asthma problems when used alone. when this medicine is used with an inhaled corticosteroid, like in trelegy, there is not a significant increased risk of these events. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase risk of thrush and infections. get emergency care for serious allergic reactions. see your doctor if your asthma does not improve or gets worse. ♪ what a wonderful world. ♪ ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy for asthma - because breathing should be beautiful.
1:59 am
2:00 am
all right, that's going to do it for me tonight. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. there's an indication the judge will grant this motion? >> i don't know. i know it's a very highly respected judge arb a very smart judge and a very strong judge. >> you appointed her. >> i did. and i'm very proud to have appointed her. she's very smart, very strong and loves our country. i mean loves our country. we need judges that love our country so they do the right thing. >> that's donald trump in an interview with fox news talking about the judge who could decide today the trial date for his classified documents case. this all comes as there's new