today's show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. the great peter alexander is next. he'll get nancy pelosi's reaction to the passing of tony bennett. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," breaking news from florida where trump-appointed district court judge aileen cannon has now sent a may 2024 date for the former president's classified documents trial. that update comes as mr. trump awaits a potential indictment in the special counsel's 2020 election probe and his growing legal challenges. also this hour, andrea's interview with secretary of state antony blinken that wrapped up moments ago at the aspen security forum where they discussed the american soldier now in north korean custody. >> we are very concerned of course about his well-being, but we'd like to know his whereabouts. we've communicated to north korea seeking that information. there are certainly concerns

based on what we've seen in the past in the way that north korea has treated those it's detained. and i'll be joined this hour by nancy pelosi on the passing of her good friend tony bennett. the iconic singer who captured the hearts of generations over more than seven decades. ♪♪ tony bennett always as cool as they come. good day. i'm peter alexander in washington.

we'll have more news from andrea's interview with secretary blinken in just a moment. we want to begin with the breaking news of judge cannon saying former president trump's trial will begin in may 2024. earlier this week, mr. trump's attorneys asked judge cannon to postpone the trial until after the november 2024 election, citing the time and energy their client would need to run for president along with his mounting legal issues outside of this case while the special counsel's prosecutors proposed a december 2023 start date. in her order today, judge cannon writes in part, "the court rejects defendant's request to withhold setting a schedule now. nevertheless, the government's proposed schedule is atypically accelerated and inconsistent with ensuring a fair trial." mr. trump is facing a 37-count

federal indictment in florida for the alleged mishandling of classified documents, obstructing justice, and making false statements. joining me now is nbc news' garrett haake, anthony coolly, former director of the justice department's office of public affairs and a former senior adviser to attorney merrick garland, and former u.s. attorney harry lipman and a former deputy assistant attorney general. let's get to garrett out of the gates on this. this came remarkably fast, just three days after the prosecutors and mr. trump's attorneys met before judge cannon. i think there was some sense that this could get kicked further down the road. this is going to happen really right after it's likely that we'll know who the next nominee is for the republican ticket. >> there's sort of a goldilocks pick here, after the primary but for the convention, the meat of the fall campaign. that's of course if this trial stay where is it's scheduled right now. there's still the possibility for future delays, but i think down the street at the special

counsel's office, they're probably breathing a sigh of relief this didn't get kicked until after the election. that was the outcome they wanted to avoid. they wanted a quicker time line. but it lands in a relatively quiet spot on the political calendar and a very busy trump legal calendar. they'll overlap. >> for perspective, it was back in 2016 ted cruz dropped out the first days of may. so it would be after there was nobody else in this if donald trump thinks he'll be the next nominee. harry lipman, let me get your take on this. what should we make of this date? is this a win for the prosecution? is there a chance the date moves again? what is your takeaway here? >> look, it's playing that way, peter, and people are making the headline, oh, she didn't put it after the election. i think that would have been a nonstarter and it would have exposed her to actually being reversed. to my mind, it's a complicated case, there are delays to

consider, but this state is about as late as trump could have wished for. and i don't think the alternative position was really ever in the -- you know, on the table. will there be further delays? totally possible. that's the whole issue. she's made april u one month before trial, the time for litigation over the classified documents, which raise all kinds of legal claims. and you can bet that that's going to be trump's plan. so i think we -- it's not so likely that this date holds. still, it's a fair way away from november, but trump could try to continue to delay. i think it's about as late as we would have expected it to be unless she went totally nuts. >> anthony, i want to ask you about this right now. pull back the curtain for us. take us inside the justice department, the special counsel's team right now. how do they spend these next ten

months in anticipation that this may 2024 date would hold? >> i will get to that. let me if i can be clear about what harry said. typically, if a person is innocent they tend to want to have trials as quickly as they can so they can clear their names and move on with their lives. donald trump has taken a completely different tact here. you noted in your lead in he wants to ultimately try to have this trial at some point after his election, presume tag he both wins the republican nomination and the general election. that's his plan here. to your question about -- >> the justice department and what the special counsel's office does with these ten months. >> yeah. so there's a lot we don't know about the state of this investigation. i would remind your viewers and everyone, it was just even a year ago, we didn't even know about the documents case. that was going on in secret.

so as they -- as all criminal investigations should go. so my hope here is that they're going to continue to follow the facts and the law and they're going to bring the strongest case that they can against anyone who was criminally responsible for the attacks surrounding january 6th. >> harry, let me ask you a little more about this for a second, right. we have almost an indictment pileup at this point. potentially another indictment in the course of the next several days or weeks surrounding the events leading up to january 6th right now. what is the likelihood that -- could that trial date be set before the may 2024 date, which is to say there could be a whole other trial before that? >> that would be quick, peter, but i think it could take place before the may 2024 date. i want to emphasize trump is already scheming how to push back from may. this will fall in front of a d.c. judge with a the d.c. court of appeals that is used to

moving things with more dispatch and has given trump's delay attempts in the past sort of back of the hand. so if i'm betting, i think that will become the position pretty quickly because, again, the classified documents issue is going to give a real chance for trump to play for additional delays before judge cannon. >> garrett, anything from the former president and his team? >> not on the specifics of this, and that's probably by design. we've seen him this week trying to look like there's nothing amiss. he had a movie screening at bedminster two nights ago. yesterday he put out a couple videos. he just released a video i was walking in on a new policy proposal for the death penalty for human traffickers. they want this period of time to look like everything is going as planned here. and to talk about either special counsel investigation, it's to remind their voters he's a target for them. that has been the overriding message from the trump campaign and i suspect what we'll hear from them at some point today.

>> anthony, we have witnessed sort of a bombardment of attacks from mr. trump, his allies, his supporters on jack smith, the special counsel here, a man who served at the hague, right. this is a guy who -- the language like deranged doesn't eve ain't ply to any of these guys, certainly not to a guy like jack smith. your just gut reaction to that and the way that's viewed from inside the doj. >> the doj will tell you that they pursue justice without to fear or favor, right. i do think there is also a human element here. there is a reason jack smith has security. presuming his family has enhanced security protocols as well. so the important thing to note here is that donald trump is the one who is using this incendiary rhetoric. that's not typical, right. and we still need to be able to call that out in real time and not just people like me but people of all political stripes.

this rhetoric has consequences. i remember -- >> we've witnessed it. >> we've witnessed it as well. i think the two african american poll workers down in georgia, i'm -- >> moss and her brother. >> right. and i'm reminded of the trump supporter in rural ohio right after the mar-a-lago search who donned body armor and tried to attack an fbi field office. his rhetoric has consequences. he needs to stop it. and everyone needs to call it out in real time. this is not normal. >> yeah. so to say nothing of what we saw on january 6th as well. always great to have you here. thank you. one-on-one with tony blinken, andrea just sat down for a news-making interview with the secretary of state. she'll join us live if aspen with those highlights. that's next.

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and save at trelegy.com back at the white house confirming the efforts and the well-being of u.s. army private travis king, the american who appears to have willingly run across the demilitarized zone into north korea. the army says not much is known about his status but has expressed deep concern for king, insisting that washington is communicating through multiple channels for any information. joining me now is the host of this program, nbc news commander in chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell joins us from the aspen security forum. youp just wrapped up a sitdown with secretary of state antony blinken. i watched much of it from here. you talked about the fate of private king. what were some of the key takeaways?

>> well, you know, thanks so much peter, because the secretary made a lot of news today on a wide variety of topics. we talked about the china's hack of our diplomats, russia's bombing of ukraine's harbors, iran, and of course as you point out the american soldier, travis king, being held in north korea. >> with regard to private king, unfortunately i don't have any further information to share. we are very concerned of course about his well-being, but we'd like to know his whereabouts. we have communicated to north korea seeking that information. i don't have anything more at this point. >> we all saw the tragedy of others. are there concerns given the past and how north korea has treated those it's detained. >> and north korea has so rapidly increased their missile and nuclear program. when is the last time you have any communications with them as

they violate multiple u.n. resolutions? >> well, we have channels of communication. we've used them. and we made clear going back to early in this administration that we were prepared to have negotiations with north korea on the nuclear program with no preconditions. we sent that message several times. here's the response we got -- one missile launch after another. now, we've not stood still. the partnership, the alliance that we have with japan and with south korea has grown even stronger, even deeper. and we've taken further steps to make sure that we could defend ourselves, defend our allies and partners, deter any aggression coming from north korea. so in effect, the response that north korea has elicited with these repeated provocations has only been to solidify the work that the united states, japan, and south korea are doing to defend ourselves. >> there was not that long ago

china was helpful behind the scenes when an american crossed the chinese border. >> that's right. >> is there any hope now that china would, with relations not that close, might be helpful in this? >> this is a conversation i've had directly with my chinese counterparts, particularly what china's role could and should be in helping bring north korea to the table on its nuclear program, helping us advance a shared vision for denuclearization on the korean peninsula. and what i shared with chinese counterparts is this -- we believe that you have unique influence, and we hope that you'll use it to get better cooperation. but if you can't or if you won't, then we're going to have to continue to take steps that aren't directed at china but that china probably won't like because it goes to strengthening and shoring up not only our own defenses but those of korea and japan and a deepening of the work that all three of us are doing together. we've seen i think an

extraordinary relationship develop over several administrations now on a trilateral basis among the united states, japan, and korea. that's only gotten stronger, and everything that north korea does and china's inability to help us do something about it will continue to move things in that direction. >> speaking of china, the chinese hack, now china has hacked nicholas burn's emails and as well as the commerce secretary. and i am told reiably by a former cyber official and other experts that 90% of the government's business is done on the unclassified -- in the unclassified space. so they were able to learn in a novel way, which is very alarming, a lot about our

business. is there some indication this was going on for quite some time because of how novel their approach was, that they could learn our strategy as you're approaching your important re-establishment of relations on your big trip to beijing? >> so, first, you're exactly right. i can't speak to the direct impact of any particular incident. i can say that the incident in question affected only our unclassified system. as soon as we actually at the state department -- >> that's a big deal. that's huge. >> we have an onto going investigation that will determine the impact. as soon as we detected it, which goes back some time, we took immediate steps both to make sure we were strengthening our protections and defenses, reported it immediately to microsoft, made sure they were doing everything possible. as a general matter, i've had, you know, opportunities to speak directly to chinese counterparts about the deep concern that we would have over anything

targeting the u.s. government, targeting u.s. companies, targeting u.s. citizens, and the fact that we'll take appropriate action if we need to in response. >> are you concerned about our vulnerabilities here? >> this is a constant effort as you know, as we all live in cyberspace so much of our life is in cyberspace, of course. it's a constant concern. and there is an ongoing effort quite literally every single day to make sure that all of our systems are as strong and protected as they can be. >> isn't this a basic attack on our sovereignty? where do you draw the line? >> again, what we've had occasion to share more than once with china is the concern that anything targeting the government, targeting citizens, targeting companies is a real concern for us. and we have -- we have found in the past and will in the future.

i can't say more than that at this point, especially since we have an ongoing investigation. we've taken steps to make sure our information is protected. >> speaking of china, secretary kerry, the envoy, the president's envoy, has just completed his mission and has failed to get china to agree to any reduction in emissions. in fact, president xi gave speech while he was there saying that not only would they not reduce emissions, they wouldn't close any of their coal-fired plants. this makes it clear before the big global semirat in the emirates in november there won't be any progress towards the goals that are much delayed. >> the purpose of john's trip was not to get an agreement, was not to get some concrete deliverable. the purpose was to renew the conversation, the dialogue we've been having with china on climate. they're the world's largest emitter. we're number two. this is the only place where i'm happy to be number two to china.

>> but they alone are emitting more than all the developed nations correct. >> that's correct. which only underscores the import and the urgency of china taking action, urgent action, to deal with its emissions. i think what secretary kerry, what john conveyed, was that sense of urgency. we're in a position now where every g-7 country, the world's leading economies, every g-7 country has adopted plans that, if implemented, would hold it to 1.5 degrees celsius. the same cannot be said of the g-20, the g-13 beyond the g-7. so one of the things that we have to do and that we're working on is to help countries, encourage countries, prod countries to make the necessary progress, to adopt the necessary targets and plans, and implement them. we've made the single largest

investment in history through the inflation reduction act. we have to make good on our promises. here's what i think. when itcomes to china, if it wants to be seen as a responsible pleader globally, it has to respond to demand signals. one of those is to take the necessary actions to curb emissions and to do what's necessary to get to 1.5 degrees celsius. this is an ongoing conversation. i think it was very important that john went and renewed that dialogue, but also conveyed the sense of urgency. now, last thing i'll say is this -- i think if you're sitting in beijing's shoes, you're looking at this challenge on the one hand, and on the other hand i think the imperative they feel to focus on growth, on economic growth. >> their economy is -- >> they have not had the rebound they anticipated getting out of

covid. i think for china right now that is job number one. but there is a real tension between that and the absolute imperative of dealing urgently with the climate challenge. >> which we're all feeling here in the u.s. and automatic over europe and all over the world now. it's become -- it is reality. let me ask you about what russia is doing bombing grain solos, canceling the grain agreement. this is going to increase famine around the world, food prices are going to go up, and there's real concern now about russia claiming a false flag as they mine the black sea harbors. >> that's right. >> and blaming ukraine. is there anything we can do? i know the u.n. is having meetings today, but russia has a veto there. is there any way that -- can nato escort ships through? how do we get the grain out quickly even while we try to help them with overland routes? >> so, andrea, first let's put

this in perspective. of course this never should have been necessary, is black sea grain initiative, never should have been necessary in the first place. the only reason it had to happen was because russia invaded ukraine, and then having invaded ukraine, it decided to blockade its ports, the leading port, odesa, to export for wheat and grain and other food products. so the united nations, turkey helped initiate this effort. the result over about a year was to get 35 billion tons of food products out to the rest of the world, predominantly to the developing world. 50% of the food products at least going to the developing world. two-thirds of the wheat. that meant people were getting food on the table and even countries that weren't directly receiving the food products from ukraine were getting lower prices because it's a world market. russia by weaponizing food is doing something truly unconscionable. throughout this period, when the initiative was working, that 35

million tons equates to about 18 billion loec loaves of bread. imagine what that means every single day to people living throughout the developing world. i hope the world is watching this and seeing how russia is cynically manipulating food in order to advance its objectives in ukraine. now, to your question, we're working with allies, partners to work with ukraine and other options. but i don't think it's possible to make up the volumes lost by ending this initiative through other routes. so we're going to do our best, but this is this has put a deep chill on shipping. and by the way, in the four days since they have ended their participation in this arrangement, what have they done, russia? they've bombed every single day the odesa port. they've laid more mines. they've threatened shipping. they did an exercise yesterday they deliberately publicized

where they simulated an attack on a ship. what does that tell you about their intentions? what does that tell you about the lack of any basic decency when it comes to getting food? >> so there's no way that commercial ship canning proceed. >> i think it's very, very difficult because for the shippers, for the insurers, given the threats, more than the threats, the action that russia has taken over the last few days, it would be very hard to operate in that environment. that's why we are looking for alternatives and options. i just don't think we can make up the volume. >> what about the false flag? >> well, we've raised real concerns about that. i think you've heard john kirby from the white house podium. again, this is something that is part and parcel of the russian playbook. we said before the aggression against ukraine started, i was at the united nations a couple weeks before, we laid out in detail the very kinds of false-flag operations that they would conduct in anticipation of the attack. it's exactly what they did. we called them on it.

the world knew about it. we wanted the world to make sure they saw what this is if it happens. >> how concerned are you about the counteroffensive which is bogged down by ukraine's own admission? >> look, these are still relatively early days. we have said from the start, we've known from the start this would be hard going. you've heard a number of people talk about that. the russians have laid significant and serious defenses when it comes to mines initially. the ukrainians are working their way through that. i believe they have what they need to be very successful, and as they deploy and as they actually put into this effort all of the forces that have been trained in recent months, the equipment that we and some 50 countries have provided them, i think that will make a profound difference. but here's what makes the ultimate difference. the ultimate difference is, unlike the russians, they're fighting for their land, they're fighting for their country, they're fighting for their future and freedom. that is the single biggest

difference maker that i've seen we've already seen as they've taken back more than 50% of the territory russia initially seized. that's the difference maker going forward too. >> how weakened do you think vladimir putin is by the aborted rebellion? >> you know, it's hard for us to know for sure and it's hard to -- and probably wrong to speculate. i think what we can say safely is that we've seen cracks emerge in the facade. the fact that prigozhin made a direct challenge to putin's authority, the fact that he questioned publicly the very premise of putin's advance for aggression against ukraine, that's playing out and will continue to play out. we see the ongoing drama of where is prigozhin, what is the arrangement with putin? we've seen their forces move to belarus. bad for bem aruse, because wherever wagner goes, death and exploitation and destruction follows. we don't know how this will play

out. if i were mr. prigozhin, i would remain very concerned. nato has an open-door policy. russian has an open-windows policy. he needs to be very focused on that. [ laughter ] >> and the secretary also acknowledged that when he goes to nato and these other meetings he does hear local concerns that he could retreat to isolationism, that these could be a detour, these two, three, four years, and all they can do is do the best they can to build momentum while they are in office right now. peter. >> andrea, enough of the geopolitics. we have priorities on a summer friday. >> of course. >> you spoke to the secretary about the women's world cup that begins tonight. >> indeed. i got him long enough and i have traveled with him all over the world. i've seen him when we were in

world cup competition before. he grew up in france. need i say more. refers to it as futbol. he's on his way next week to wellington, new zealand, as well as australia and tonga, and he will be there when the women's world cup match faces off, the women face off against the netherlands. so i had to ask. >> first, let me be very clear. we have a vitally important strategic dialogue with new zealand that's taking place next week. coincidentally the world cup -- >> you just happened to be in wellington, new zealand -- >> well, if i'm able to skal an ticket, you know, maybe we'll get there. i've watched the women's national team for decades. it's one of the most exhilarating, exciting things i've seen in any sport. >> we'll look forward to seeing him decked out as alex morgan in uniform. andrea mitchell on the ground for us in aspen.

what a compelling conversation. we appreciate it. we should also mention nbcuniversal news group is the media partner of the aspen security forum. andrea, thank you so much. up next, an exclusive -- house speaker nancy pelosi remembers tony bennett, the legendary singer who passed away today at 96 years old. and later, team usa getting ready for their start in the 2023 women's world cup in new zealand. nbc's molly hunter is there. >> reporter: they are back for world cup action in new zealand. who are we cheering for? >> usa! usa! usa! usa! e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities, while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. e*trade from morgan stanley. diabetes can serve up a lot of questions,

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tony bennett was the perfect blend of style and song. he died in new york city today at the age of 96. he was diagnosed with alzheimer's in 2016. frank sinatra said in a 1965 "life" magazine interview, "for my money, tony bennett is the best singer in the business. he excites me when i watch him. he moves me. he's the singer who gets across what the composer has in mind and probably a little more." high praise there. lady gaga performed with him in recent years, including live at radio city music hall in new

york for his final series of shows. ♪ she likes the free fresh ♪ ♪ wind in her hair ♪ 6 joining me, former speaker of the house nancy pelosi who was a longtime friend of tony bennett's, a lover of his music. speaker pelosi, thank you for being with us. as we were watching that clip, you remind med you were there in 2021 as tony bennett performed alongside lady gaga, already afflicted with alzheimer's. he still could belt it out. what was it like and what do you remember most about mr. bennett? >> well, it's pretty sad, even though 96, that he had the diagnosis he had. it's still a shock to face the

reality that our national treasure has left us. my husband paul and i had the privilege of being at many performances of tony bennett and the different birthdays, 80, 85, and at the 95th birthday. of course at radio city music hall we saw him perform with lady gaga. but he was such an artist, so creative, not only in his singing and his write bug in his painting and respecting his investment of time, resources, and celebrity, investing in children and their learning the arts, establishing a school in new york city for that purpose. but most people don't know he really was a super patriot, fought at the battle of the bulge, freed a concentration camp, and then came home and later marched with reverend martin luther king, and just the list goes on and on of his civic participation. >> i want to ask you about his service in a moment.

i'm reminded in 2018 you welcomed back to your home city the man who obviously sang he left his heart in san francisco, where you named, what was it, tony bennett way, a stretch of mason street in san francisco, my home? >> that's right. >> talk about his life and legacy and what he meant to the italian-americans. >> of course we had our italian american connection in which we took great pride. he always was talking about his childhood and his family and when he went into the service and how he was attracted to the entertainment business with that beautiful voice. and his wife susan is so remarkable, and she's from the bay area. she's from south bay. you're from east bay. and he -- we always think he sang "i left my heart inmany, m ago before he even met susan, but we think that it carried on

in her name and in her debt. all of us who care about him are indebted to her. she just was so loving to him for such a long time. >> ain't to play for you and for our audience, andrea mitchell with the secretary of state tony blinken. speaking about tony bennett, he spoke about how the secretary says that bennett connected people so powerfully through music. take a listen. >> what an incredible career that spanned decades and that rejuvenated in many ways in the last couple of decades of his life with these incredible collaborations with new artists, lady gaga, obviously comes to mind. there's no greater champion of the american song book. if it's gershwin, porter, rogers and hammerstein, that's tony bennett. >> we've seen those public performances. he was such an icon. you saw many performances in small settings as well.

back in 2019, he serenaded you at the italian embassy on the each of your regaining the speakership. what is that like -- serenaded by tony bennett, to hear him up close and personal? >> you have to know we were quite surprised that night because we thought he'd sing one or two songs and he sang more than half an hour. >> amazing. >> the people who were there, the clintons, everybody came that night, many of our supporters, grassroots folks as well. and this morning -- i'm getting all these messages from people saying, you know, they were so honored to be there. and then i was honored to have him, to acknowledge him from the podium when he was in the audience when i was sworn in for my second series of speakerships. he was a dear friend. i loved him very much. i'll miss him very much. but in san francisco, it's not only a stretch of mason street, it's a statue dedicated to him. so it's really a draw right

there in front of the fairmont hotel. >> it's clear that this is personal to you. what did he mean to you, madam speaker, personally? >> well, he -- there he is, singing that song. we had so many connections. of course our italian american connection so important. his civic involvement, martin luther king as i mentioned. he was an artist himself. and when he would come and do events for us, he would look at the art in people's homes and they loved the fact that he had an appreciation for that. but personally to me, we loved him and susan so much, paul and i. and to be there for -- at radio city music hall. but after the big ceremony, there were just a couple, maybe two dozen of us who were invited in for cutting of the cake. and many honors are afforded a member of congress as speaker of the house, but to be there for the cutting of tony bennett's

95th birthday cake, that was a real privilege. again, a sign of our connection. i spoke to his son this morning and he was telling me of the last moments. the family will share that. he said he sang because of you, that last song he sang right before he -- >> how is if family doing? >> they're overwhelmed by the outpouring of emotion, support, enthusiasm. they're just saying it's just so incredible to hear. >> so many fond memories from so many people. >> it's overwhelming they say globally and nationally and locally, such an outpouring. and that is a real comfort to them. they'll speak to that. i don't presume to speak for them. but you asked that question, and what they said is can you believe how he inspires do many people? yes, i can believe it. >> madam speaker, we are sorry

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didn't really matter but my daughter's health mattered. >> i was so sorry that i couldn't help her. she had no mercy. there was no mercy. >> such powerful testimony. joining me now is one of those women, a lead plaintiff in the case, amanda, who almost died while trying to get an abortion in texas. amanda, we praise you for your strength and are grateful for your kindness to come in and talk to us about this after grueling rounds of fertility treatments, as i understand, you were finally carrying that baby girl you and your husband had prayed for. you testified about the harrowing experience of wanting to hear your baby willow's heartbeat but also knowing that that heartbeat meant that you could not get lifesaving medical treatment. you went into septic shock, as i read. talk to us about that period, about that moment. >> yeah, thank you for having me

first and foremost. it's an honor to be here. watching those testimonies and reliving this over and over again is just horrific because it was truly the worst period of my life. you saw me testify on wednesday that this moment that was supposed to be magical, an ultrasound, right, hearing your baby's heartbeat that you've wanted for so long, and at the same time wanting to hear it and not hear it was unbelievably devastating. i'll never be able to put into words the trauma that that causes on a person and the grief because, i mean, it's just unthinkable and it was avoidable. >> how did you decide that you wanted to take this major step to sue the state of texas? >> my husband, josh, and i knew pretty early on -- i was

actually still in the hospital when we decided that we wanted to do something about the laws. we didn't know exactly what that would look like. certainly we couldn't foresee how big it would eventually get, but we just kept talking about how, you know, this is so awful and what happened to me is going to continue to happen to more and more pregnant people in this state and across the country if nobody stands up. and fortunately, we have the resources and the support to stand up, and so, you know, we decided we will. >> what do you hope will result from your lawsuit against the state? i trust that no one else shares this experience. but what in real terms do you want to see happen here? >> well, first and foremost we'd like to see the court clarify what a medical exception means so that doctors can provide health care and they can exercise their best judgment based on their training and their education and their patients' wishes. and, you know, ultimately we're

also hoping that this will help bring courage and a voice to pregnant people across the country and other state where is similar bans are being enacted and we can fight in other states as well. >> i want to get your take -- i know this is so personal and challenging to revisit these conversations, these memories -- but how does all of this impact the mental health of women and of would be moms, would be mothers? >> it's devastating. you heard one of my fellow plaintiffs discuss her experience with depression and i'll share i have also experienced depression and post-traumatic stress disorder. these are significant, long-term psychological and emotional impacts. the grief will never go away, and i think that the psychological impacts oftentimes ignored in all of this, and it's

life changing, truly. >> and your thoughts about the bans being put in place by republicans in other states right now? >> that's why we're fighting back. this just going to keep happening. and you know, ultimately, if people haven't already, pregnant people will die because of these bans. >> amanda zurofsky, we appreciate your time. we're so impressed by your courage and strength. please give my best to your husband josh as well. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you so much for having me. >> and we're going to be right back. back

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east coast time, saturday local. >> one day at a time, thank you. the white house is fighting back against the culture wars being waijed by ron desantis in florida with vice president harris leading the charge. trymaine lee is joining me now. fill us in on the strategy here as well as the timing. >> that's right, peter. the white house as you evenings -- mentioned is fighting back a revisionist and extremist behind the florida state board of education's new african american standards, which actually paint aspects of chattel slavery as positive. now, as you mentioned, vp kamala harris is fighting back. later today she'll be in jacksonville, florida, to address this issue. florida has indeed become ground zero under governor ron desantis and his so-called anti-woke agenda. before she traveled to florida today, she was actually in indianapolis yesterday at a convention for delta sorority, and she had this to say. >> check it out.

they pushed forward revisionist history. just yesterday in the state of florida they decided middle school students will be taught that enslaved people benefitted from slavery. they insult us in an attempt to gaslight us, and we will not stand for it. >> vp harris says they won't stand for it, later today at 3:25, at historic african american theater in jacksonville. she'll be continuing her fight back against revisionary history, trying to prevent people from learning the true and actual history of this country. >> you've been down in florida, you've seen how educators and students are reacting to this. what is their reaction there? >> up to this point there had already been, peter, a ground swell. there's a man named marvin dunn who for decades has been leading these tours throughout the state of florida, you know, gathering families, parents and children to teach them the real history

that has often been denied under this anti-woke agenda. i sat on this bus. there were 14-year-olds and 15-year-olds with their grandparents and parents really taking a tour, getting their feet in the foot steps literally of history. so many folks before the white house was involved felt that we had kind of hit a crisis point in florida. certainly as part of governor desantis's anti-woke agenda and the legislation that came after it saying that they didn't want to make children feel bad about history being taught. while a lot of african american parents were saying there's certainly tough history, few know it better than the african american community how tough history can be. >> trymaine lee, we appreciate you staying on top of this. we will be anticipating kamala harris's the vice president's remarks later today. thanks for your reporting. wish you a good weekend. that's going to do it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." it's been my pleasure to fill in for my friend andrea all week. follow the show online, on

facebook, and on twitter @mitchell reports. if you like you can follow me @peteralexander. no obligation. "chris jansing reports" begins right now. good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. it will be an extraordinary split screen next spring. donald trump heading to court just as millions of republicans head to the polls. can trump win the nomination and fend off jack smith's prosecutors at the same time? we'll dig into the newly revealed timing of that most important trial to date along with the complicated political and legal implications coming up. plus, what do a country music song and florida's newest history lessons have in common, they're the latest battleground for the culture wars, fwal galvanizing the republican party. check out this new video of the massive tornado